Author's vocabulary and spelling retained.
-. La'll be! or something about the FA. -
As many probably guessed,
now go about dismantling the article in
BornDead # 0D, which severely Unbeliever
poured Razzler'ov whole tub of shit ...
Strictly speaking, this is it for nothing ...
Okay, we will deal later, the benefit
us a lot of things I want to say about
Samara FU, so to speak, their release is far
DO NOT fountain, how they paint.
For those who still do not know, immediately
explain what was going on. But the fact that
appeared two releases of the same demos
First Association, one - Novgorod,
performed by a group of Razzlers, and another -
Samara made Speed
Code / XTM / Sage / SOK (underline).
And everything is nothing, but that's something the rest
does Unbeliever'y our release. Maybe
Toad's Eating? ;) Hereinafter, if
said "our release," it means release
from Razzlers. FA, FS, etc. - Is
Short of First Association. I hope
everything will be clear. Preferably after
reading to practical
(Laboratory) classes in view of both
releases and, having made a report, choose
a suitable option.
To begin with, that "theirs" version of graphs
At the time of "his" we have not seen
by the way, sorry, but that would take into account their
miscalculations and made their release even better.
Well, it does not matter. To begin the story
"Our" graphs. It all started with that Cryss
to view the graphs are not in the emulsion, and the
real Speccy, dragged all the parts on
TRDos-drives. Later came
proposal to release not only for
themselves but also for the people. On such actions
in Samara, we did not know ...
As time went on ... Part sly
repackages and FIX'ilis until
just under the Scorpio. I must say that we
initially did not hurry to work, but
After suggestions from Arty / DR on
inclusion of graphs in the annex to Scenergy # 1
which was soon to appear,
work went much faster. It was then
took shape and overall style of the release,
pondered manager and intro, was carried out
FIX under the Pentagon and Composit. Wanted
upihat all on two discs. After full
repackage it became clear that though burst,
two standard disk FA will not fit.
Born the idea of three discs ... Through
some time swept aside as unnecessary and
uninteresting. Thought out
psychodelic-manager for the 48x parts. He
adopted. After some time, the 48th
CD compiled and work begins on the 128M.
In the midst of the work we learn about
conducting the same work in Samara.
Stop it was too late, and we
yet completed the 128y drive
non-standard format that everyone got
throat. And there already and output
Scenergy # 1 with "our" FA in the appendix.
After posting all yuyukov in echo
ZX.SPECTRUM start screaming: "How is it
See?. Especially is washed
idiotic statement: "Once it is in. TD0 -
only means for emulators! ". Are you
never Teledisk'a not seen? Bummer is,
that we have in Novgorod started having problems with
FIDO, which continue to this day.
Duc Now, because of this I could not
write to the echo and just sat there, read it in
Online and mother ... After some
time found intelligent people who all all
explained that for them, and thank you.
SS'999 time approached.
Retell the report I will not tell
only a few moments. At night, after
the first day I was caught somewhere Arty / DR and
reported that behind the scenes on the stage is
conversation about our release graphs. Taking his
discs, after a while I came over
scenes. There are people copied each
friend everything that can be rewritten. I
yelled that he had brought the 3rd and 4th disk of
Scenergy # 1 and what was our FA. And, incidentally,
sorry, that before the MMA has not seen our release,
but we have not seen their version. Probably
ensued would be an interesting argument, but it was
expressed some lingering observation that
how bad do non-standard format.
Type in Scorpio with screws pebble
converged ... And that can no longer drive and a
drive to shove, all necessary to screw?
In my opinion, you can be patient and then two
disc.
So it all was and how it all
left before the release of BD # 0D, where we
found these lines: ... Although we proceed
so I now I will take some statements
from that article and a little of their
comment. This will help me
Cryss, which, strictly speaking,
tinkered with this unfortunate demoy. Ok? Well,
then went to disassemble it Unbeliever'a:
<<... In the detailed consideration of "Nenashev"
version of the FA, like me, and came MAXSOFT
simply in panic. How? How can
was so zasrat ...>> etc.
AS> What are you there so scared? And what
we're there, let me ask
how do you say "zasrat? No, I do not
I say that our release is just
perfect, but it also did not horse-radish
name. After all the work was
done a fairly large and therefore
hear such baseless and not
evidence-based statements
Several hurt.
Further, there are lines like:
<<... Sitting in a sweat, trying to do
really high-quality, full and
closest to the original release ...>>
AS> About the closeness to the original let
keep quiet. Least because
original it is. TAP'e rather than
TR-Dos'nyh disks, and do not pack it
Hrust'om, and there is no manager, and only
especially the intro. By the way, on your intro
also has a few words, but this
later.
<<... And here come the pioneers and arch
fingers under the angles of these ...>>
AS> For the "pioneers" of course, thanks, but
where we have toes arches? Yes, and under
some angles. Confusing ... More
An interesting phrase:
<<... Better to put people in place immediately,
that did not arise in the future such
Conflict ...>>
AS> Mother! Where we have a conflict
situation? We are in any conflict is not
climb, because we are pacifists, but only
half ... :) And here we are still on
a place to put together, like we
somewhere climbed. Such a phrase is
with some sort should be presented, such as "we are the most
steep and, as a major
principle regulator Spectrum
scene Razzler'ov put in place. "and
once a child, "but I, like, in
Dad's pants ...". Be careful with
such phrases ... But I have to
According to cling to.
Further, already wrote Maxsoft:
<<... At what can the pioneers? Two
disc. Cool! But a drive is formatted
outside the box. Suxx. If the right on this
disk was copyist, but it is not ...>>>
AS> Pioneers are capable of much, then, they
and pioneers. And that's what you so
non-standard format does not suit you?
Without exception all of you with the screws on the real
Speccy or what? In the emulator. FDI is not
connect? Of course, this all causes
some inconveniences, but in my opinion,
It's worth it. A copyist is in
annex to Scenergy # 1, but can we
follow your example and make
fixpack, who cram and copier
to disk, only here it is troublesome ...
<<... Intro. Some of it very much
Good, but how these alterations Amiga
Danish Wheels by Melon Design tired ...>>
AS> Well, and then not please! What do we
annoy you so? And what about the fact that
you are sick of the intro, but where else Dyk
such as the intro is that they have so
get it? And that's what I want to say
What about your intro. No doubt, it is
steep (and even 48k), I congratulate
Monster'a. BUT! This is not cracktro!!!
It would be better released it somewhere
separately, and so she's there anyway
sewn, or fasten. And what about
our intro, so it's inspiration from the
pisishnogo cracktro by
Hetero/Razor1911, but now she zakos
by Melon Design'ovskoe. Such is the
history. You might think that a little
effects passed on to other Speccy
platforms, and you absolutely have to
this latch ...
<<... Pentagon somehow askew made -
Full-screen multicolor mows ...>>>
AS> On the emulator look? Your multicolor
too far from the line, and in some places it
generally not noticed. And, incidentally, that
most part of the Speccy Boyz, where
Multicolor many pictures at all
not gone to the Pentagon. And where she went,
Duc steadily slows down at the moment
clear the screen.
<<... Does not change the part, the
which is seen as the regenerated
Screen ...>>
Cr> I somehow do not know whether you will give us
advise further alienate our
release from the original, whether it yourself
deal done.
<<... Selection of parts FA do enough
original, but the sounds at the same time
- I advise to listen to after last night: * (
To kill the authors you want ...>>
Cr> What you do not like psychedelic
sounds in the 48th manager? Or on
There is more to criticize something
nothing. Maybe you both like
is the manager that you can not
break away from him and watch taschites
from spinning gear, cursing at
was worth the howling of the envelope?
Frankly, I doubt. Well, that
your manager to get the desired
part to be a sniper.
<<... Parts ordered by the authors. But
if you want to watch someone else
epilogue, then wait for all the other parts
very uncomfortable ...>>
Cr> And here is something you are mistaken. The point
that you can try during the
Download the 48th to hold the parts or
button 'S' button or 'M'.
The result of their actions will not take
a long wait. If you do not yet
understood, then we explain: 'S'kip-pass
part, 'M'anager-out in the manager.
<<... Can not be inserted in the two drives both
disc at once or even want ...>>
AS> Why?? Both discs are absolutely
independent. Wanted to see 128e
part - insert a disc, wanted 48e
- Another. When you load in the beginning
in large letters (more figures)
specify which disc is loaded. All
simple and clear. In general, it is possible and
insert, suffer from it will not,
however, it is better - too ...
<<... Playlist as such there is no ...>>
AS> Here's what not, that do not. Like
of course, but we later changed their minds. All
well, more than once to watch FU
hardly anyone would be, and just "so that
was "to do extra work not
wanted. However, your release is also not
burdened by the presence playlist.
<<... Intro, where proudly listed razzlersy not
skipaetsya ...>>
AS> ... because at the end of the intro you
invited to choose FIX and type loader
48go to drive.
<<... Just watch the entire demo from scratch,
from beginning to end, it is
impossible ...>>
Cr> ... but if you will choose the regime
view demos so to speak
NON-STOP'om, it has fallen out of her
back to the manager somehow did not
obtained: (And on top of that,
selection of such a very long keys as
space, this is very doubtful
function in our opinion very
unwise.
<<... After parts (while loading)
show different pictures. They
"Manifest" rotator, which in
the original was not. Good course
rotator, but only here in the original
Pictures of certain authors show
after their parts. In Razzlerov pictures
are shown as they please ...>>
AS> randomly selected only
Pictures with cassette and diskette
the rest are left to their places. In
Your release also has some
"Liberty", for example, with what you have
Part of LaserSoft and Busy'Noro
(Called Toxy) merged into
one item? Because both are small?
So all to be honest with us. A
rotator there pretty good
looks, and then just boring pictures
view on startup.
<<... Feel a lack of competent
organizer and beta testers ...>>
AS> Gy! ;)
Cr> People, have you never looked at
his release from? Never
run it on a real Spectrum with
one drive? I, of course,
understand how convenient to connect the emulsion
three disks, and so to say, "not clicking
gate drive "immediately have
access to all the Deme. But when you
offered after every 48th
part of the back to load from disk to memory
manager, instead of
by saving it in any of
128 pages of them, then
simply throw much needed
then, take my word for it strongly
lacking. I'm not talking about that are not
is checking on what comp
deme loaded (meaning
48/128), and if you started in the
48th mode (which must be
do to still look at
this notorious 48k epilogue), you
will long wonder why this is
loaded and the 128th part. The truth here
For some reason they do not want to work, and
instead, hang. Why would it? A
What is warped to
unrecognizable 'UNBELIVEBALS' instead
'UNBELIEVABLES'! Surely Unbeliveber,
or may still be Unbeliever
so bad fumbles in English.
A then you are talking about
our lack of "literate"
organizer and beta testers.
<<... In part from the Speccy Boys, for example,
a multicolor, which is difficult _ochen_
wait. When you press the same button part
skipaetsya completely. Could skipat
part of it to pieces. In the same part was
borderny effect, which was run
only on Didaktik Gama 48 - it all
thrown out. Either not found or did not
understand how it should work ... As
at least under the "Scorpio is fixed without any problems,
as a maximum - sm.samarskoe FA! ...>>
AS> I somehow do not understand this expression ...
Cr> We do not claim that our release
perfect and not without flaws.
<<... Also release no: firm
"System test", "48kb epilogue", the picture
"Change disk "...>>
Cr> Perhaps we are a little heated, throwing
system test, considering it an explicit
attachment to all sorts of two A and other
proprietary company for the unusual
TR-DOS release, the more so because his entire
are reduced to describing the alteration
Boot FA for different systems. Well
where do you think we should
picture (if you can call it that)
"Change disk" to sew? After all, drives a
We are completely independent.
<<... A 48k part moved into the ranks
128th ...>>
AS> And by its name hard to guess
it is an epilogue to one of the 128h
parts? Namely to Mentasm. Therefore,
she goes after him and everything is clear.
And what are you, offer to look
part, then change the drive and watch
epilogue to her? No, thank you!
<<... C such "thinning" can be
to all and a two-disc standard
fit ...>>
AS> It is impossible!
<<... Razzler'ovskie coders have tried to
fame and managed more than 8 times
"Speed up" the generation of chess
donut ...>>
AS> C'mon really pin up, painfully, he
bored. You're also accelerated,
which incidentally is not in favor of the question of
According to the original, as was
stated above.
Cr> Besides, there was only one coder, and he is
do all the work for repacking,
writing the intro and the two managers,
one wrote all the downloaders and collected
the whole thing into a pile. (Credits to watch
at least sometimes be, not to write in the BD,
that the demo version of WORMS in the annex to
Scenergy # 1 of Razzlers).
<<... In part K3L still there
"Full" IM2 loader, but it is buggy
in a black ...>>
Cr> But there, in at least the music is not
howls, and quite simply
off if the next part is not
time to boot.
<<... Pictures out there on the "square" is not
optimized ...>>
AS> It was not necessary ...
And here is the epilogue to all states:
<<... If you want to have in their
collection of disk version FA megademo,
that's cool does not match
original ...>>
AS> Pro to the original we are silent,
remember?
<<... Fixed a crooked ...>>
AS> If you look on the emulator, you can
be, but we all had fixed a
exactly. So the question to your company,
only do not regard this as
another call to alter iron
by software.
<<... On disks with non-standard format
(Owners of the screws are gone abyss )...>>
AS> Owners of the screws you just
remember it - live with
real diskovertom.
Cr> So why did you do
multtikolorny fix only under
Pentagon, and about the same Scorpion, with
screw that, forget?
<<... And without any explanatory
Text ...>>
AS> What is there to explain something? Here to explain
something
and non-Th-th! I must say that your
explanatory text has a small
"Artistic value". True,
that you have a cool, Duc is that in
Included is "First Association
Preview ", it does not have happened if
all desire.
Cr> Actually, FA is an application to
SCENERGY, and all you have to
call it, the explanation is just there somewhere and
written. Did you write that <
... Scenergy does not count ... >>.
<<... Then First Assotiation Megademo
released by Razzlers - this is for you !...>>
AS> I also can say something like:
Do you really want instead of the version
Razzlers, have in their collection
Samara version of the graphs, which has no
normal fixation, and one that is
executed on an emulator, which
parts are not organized into groups, where
no fixes old bugs and added
New? Do you want to earn
hernia, moving the drives? Of course,
if you have not three drives. And
in general, for more convincing, I
give so say the "script"
view of the graphs, to sow discord
(Probably in a bourgeois concept and
a) ... ;)
So as we look Samara FU for
forest of honesty, in one drive:
- Insert the disk into the drive. Here we have
say that Samara FA starts
with only one specific disk
and who is invited to mark as the # 2,
others, therefore, # 0 and # 1. So
Now, very likely is the fact that you do not
the first time insert the correct disk and
crafty fun to tell the loader: insert disk
# 2.
- If you do not screw with the Scorpion and
autostart TRDos'a, then write the same
LOAD (or who are most familiar - RUN, POKE) and
Loading ... No! Did not the FA, but only
simple boot, already a hundred times seen, and
just out of it we run the FU.
- Watch the intro. Okay, I am silent. ;)
- Get into the manager. Well, let's say, for
you first start you and see the intro
entirely, and read the whole text, but
then ... Here here and recall the words of
that our intra skipaetsya not (in general,
Of course, skipaetsya, but not immediately, but
completion of the text output). And here it is
time is more than compensated since we do not
have to go five kilometers on the text to
the nearest part of the name. So, something I
distracted, continue:
- We see the names of parts. You
going to run something, but the cursor
does not want to get right the first time
exactly where you want.
- But here's battle with the cursor over, and you
deservedly hope to see some
part, but nifiga, you will be asked to insert
another disc.
- Part of the load, start,
looks, ends (or pressed
space) and you will again change
disk in the drive - to load
manager, and even if
Have you looked 48yu part.
- And so on, until torpor or
torn from the permutation discs
abdomen. Although a true spektrumist
nadorvet stomach from prestanovki drives? ;)
And here is how the view Release
from Razzlers:
- Insert the disk into the drive. Run.
If you do not know, or you have not marked
drives at once to notice that we will ship -
screen large numbers show disk
with some parts (48/128) in
drive. Moreover, you will learn and then,
which mode you are booting (I
mean 48/128).
- Watch the intro, after pressing the space
answer to a question about FIX'e and, if
48go disc loader of the type of normal / turbo.
- Get into the manager.
- Choose the parts, which group we wanted to
would look. Do not worry, by name
you will be taken soon.
- Looks the part. Do not like it - at
podgruzku next block hold 'm' and
return to the manager, who, incidentally,
in the case of 48go disk will not be loaded,
but simply transferred from the upper memory.
And on a 128M disk Podgruzka it for you
does not present inconveniences - for wheels
not necessary to change.
- Etc.
In general, the look yourself and choose what
that you prefer. Although, I think
Many have already made our choice, and if he
correct, they have freed up extra three
disc.
<<... If the text of obscene words
No, my oral remarks
written is not true ...>>
AS> Similarly ...
And finally, we list
glitches, observed by us in Samara
release that were not specified above:
1. As part of the Delirium Musical Disaster
present corporate glitch with the cursor
not fixed a while, perhaps, has been reviewed
for proximity to the original;)
2. For some reason on my comp of Illusion
part yield is much earlier than
needed.
3. After some parts to the left of
insert disk # n square with an attribute
pixel meat.
4. Part of Unbelievables Animation with
fuck'om somehow twitches and does not appear
all its phases.
5. For some reason does not always correctly
determined by the disk from which to
to boot. In particular, if
select from the following parts:
Delirium, Busy'Noro or 128 Epilogue, then
incorrectly selected drive you
ensures complete freeze ...
6. In addition to "Unbelivebals" wrong
contains the following names:
"Shiva", "Nighty Crew", "Outtro".
It is possible that we have something and
overlooked. Of course, in this release too
You can find bugs (and they are there), but at
At least, not as unforgivable.
Everything! Here I want to finish as
sure you're tired of reading all
the text. Maybe you ask:
"What is the clarification of personal relationships in
pages stsenovogo respected magazine? ".
I will answer you this: now that this thing Unbeliever
started, we will not keep silent, because
Such materials several denigrate our
proud name. :) So if you was
disgusted to read, then, as the saying goes,
"Zvinyayte, gentlemen." And yet, y we have now
There are some problems with the electronic
mail, and write longhand few people
want, so let's communicate through
Scenergy.
Legend:
AS> - Andy Simon / RZL
Cr> - Cryss / RZL
<<... ...>> - Quote from BornDead # 0D
with preserved style and
orthography.
(C) Razzlers'99
