DISCUSSION
(C) Yuri Buravtsov
812/01.14
DISCUSSION:
"On the Modem and not only"
Once, not so long ago, I sent a letter to my one old friend -
Dmitry nimble. The letter then stated
how can adversely affect
the fate of the Speccy development of various kinds
computer networks and network equipment. Fears of the author's
letters were in no small extent caused by future then (and now
already occurred) went on sale XTR-Modem.
Well, you, the readers, of course, remember
I directly into the twenty-ninth edition
ZxNews replied to this letter. After
This network SpbZxNet not abated disputes
how is this relevant issue,
what are the real reasons for leaving Speccy
from the circle of the most preferred domestic
computers. Yes, these debates and discussions before
has not yet died down, the more that Dmitry
Vertkov tried again to prove the inevitability of death
Spectrum, already thirty fourth edition ZxNews.
And so, the editors received another
letter. Its author modestly calls himself
"DIMON'om. Letter is clearly designed to
publication in next issue ZxNews, and
In general, all the lovers and patriots of their
network, the author is in favor of his
beloved ZX Spectrum.
I will try to respond to this letter, but
do so, as is usually accepted to do with the letters in the
network. Letter quote in full, without abbreviations.
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D> Recently (07/09/1997) I go to the LOGROS,
D> stood and stared ... Here comes the PA D> root, begins to
something there razgovari D> vat with Misha. Eventually the
conversation turned D> on the web in general and modems in
particular. D> Misha began pushing it about how to model D> ZX
demos ruined in Moscow, as Nehor D> Chiyah SysOp'y placed at
stations AB D> Tor prog, etc. etc. D> I'm sorry, but I did
about the death of D> Spectrum in Moscow have not heard (I'm
D> are not muffled like). And do not know how it
Indeed, not deaf, I see ... :)
You know, DIMON, all this speculation, which
someone's hand. That's just - to whom? ..
D> in the capital, but we have a network I have no
D> bend one author has not seen, if
In vain. There was once such a program. But
The next day she had disappeared from all
BBS - was asked and removed. Nothing wrong if not, just a
misunderstanding. And now, when the network operates charter,
few dare to throw a network of commercial projects. Besides not
every normal person who spent
money to purchase the license floppy disk, want to break the
program and throw it into the net. Well, after all, if it
occurred, or the program has appeared at this person in another
way, in case of attempts extend the program across the network
this citizen will be punished by disconnection from the network
(in my opinion, this is too severe punishment for the person to
whom the network - is and the sun and air and water. Although,
in Actually, we have: we must respect all
people, and programmers - most notably,
other than mail, and oh, we would be nothing more
the network is not seen).
D> only NU POGODI (she still razrabotochka
Well, this is not a commercial project,
likely that in near future
expected from the same author ...
D>:). How can a network of ruin
D> platform? In my opinion, only if all
D> Encoders together zasyadut for modem and ne
And here you are not quite right: the encoder
Polls from time to time, sit down
for the modem but nothing else and can not be! Where, as
not on a network, you can see, but what, in fact, people would
want to see? What new projects and what new effects, etc.? From
That was why, imho, bend, and spelling, and written
as, perhaps, have never been written.
D> restanut writing program - NO ONE order of D> shrinkage
SYSOP not be put to their station D> PROGRAM AUTHOR!
Especially because all
But you have to be honest. All of us
not without sin, all we ever wanted to indulge the smallness of
the game "What is a" good "and what is" bad "and what from the
consequences of this ... But people have such "lists of moral
standards." Called they are in different ways: some is calling
Charter some - Act. But the essence is: broken - the answer ...
Law - is the Law. How be strict, he was not. A network of, say,
- hierarchical structure is the most democratic on earth. After
all, the network no aggression. As soon as the echo hissed at
you, the moderator, for example, you're right - molchok ... And
lay low until better times. No one to get You are not going to.
And there are really decent sysops, imho, into our grid, most
...
D> recent projects go to nehily
D> protected (in, neigh Hacker:) and occupy D> mayut the
entire disk. Who saw the UFO-2 ka D> Coy anything BBS?
By the way, here you are also not quite right.
UFO-2 is not quite the whole disk, or
that would be more precise, not the entire disk. A
on the BBS it has not been seen, it is because
that, first, about 2000 sectors it
holds, and therefore not every sysop dare put it: how much time
it it will crawl over the phone cord
line? And on a floppy disk hurt a lot of space
takes, and extra drives are known to
does not happen ... Here, buy yourself the "Winchester"
open BBS, then maybe, and I will ... A
secondly, as a not very decent to distribute crack, the more
that is not always they repeat the quality of the author's copy,
thereby discredit this author
in the eyes of retailers and diskettes,
Of course, a huge army of playing
computer game ...
D> Next: According to Misha turns out that
D> one game will swing 15 - 20 mi D> chickpeas. I pinpoint:
the average (in 2400) - D> 5 minutes. More Mike said something
about
Please note that not all work with
BBS goes well for 1800, rather than something that would
2400. I - that a living example: having the XTR-modem I can not
work with one of the stations at a speed higher than 600 baud. C
others, of course, much better than
earlier on Vicomm'ke ... And then, by the way,
UFO-2 in 1976, the sectoral variant at 2400 baud is about 30
minutes (I pinpoint), that is, not every program will be walk 5
minutes. Although ... in my estimation, Your program took about
330-350 sectors, toys and so much love take ...
Well, even if five minutes, what of
this goes? I did not understand something ...
D> metering of talk time
D> on the TCP. In my opinion, some (mis D> minimum is!) Years,
we still have, and for this D> time, you can download
everything you can D> download (as a bent and !?!).
Ah! Understand the part about the speed ...
Do not flatter, DIMON. By the time
come out even more ambitious projects that you download,
no-pumped! But What about phones: here in my Kolpino an old
station clean - 484, and on its input place of 469. Understand
because it is electronic station, there touchtone
implemented, etc. So, in the newspapers wrote that the PTC will
introduce time-based payments gradually, with the commissioning
of new PBX, so that they pay off.
Only here with this 469 "number is not passed."
I do not know why, but until a time-based
wait ... Do you know how many employees TCP shares? And what of
their exchange price? And how much revenue they bring these
shares (the source of the information itself works in TCP)? So,
all this is because PTS - a monopolist can dictate its terms to
anyone. And what would you do? Telephone - it is now the
subject of appropriate if you ask someone if they have
his phone and he said no, what
chevstvo you overwhelmed at this point?
Pity? Surprised? Or maybe both of these feelings?
Incidentally, in Moscow subscription fee of telephone
services in exactly two times lower than in St. Petersburg. And
this should accept it, because Moscow - the capital of our
Homeland, she somewhat different status than all other Russian
cities. Therefore, there and more money, and, accordingly, the
standard of living higher.
Although, of course, hurt ...
D> But you know what you get kicks
D> on how to get through first
D> BBS, and you start talking to quite
What's the truth. Call pleasant. But there is something to
hang on ...
D> stranger, as if with children D> garden with him? " Or it's
nice for D> obtain an answer to my letter, after D> sixteen
years of not knowing what D> mail? And most importantly, all
this without NAM D> ryaga (chasing envelope will defile D>
magician mother because of the wrong brands D> tremble,
because the chance that a letter D> comes catastrophically
low) and the rate D> the rate of transmission, as a rule - one
D> per day (although, sometimes even longer: (. And with D>
clearance soaps are no problems - it is necessary D> just get
used to it, in the regular mail that D> is the same standards.
Correctly. We are already beginning to slowly
forget the main purpose of the network and BBS -
electronic bulletin boards. We are beginning to
think that the network - this means of distribution of programs
among the masses of different people, whereas it is only one of
the side branches. Now I just can not imagine how
it is possible - with no one to communicate via a
network-mails? When I handed over the session, I comes at a
time "to block his oxygen - that is, at the time leave the
network, because network - a very time-consuming exercise, but
with the session time is not worth ...
Now, when I ring up all the stations
(Not yet closed) in search of letters, I have several times, it
happens, I call on same station, if you do not find it on
these letters ... Or maybe someone will take
Yes, and will throw pismishko?
D> For me, IMHO, it is important not so much
D> prog rock (though I've got bore D> How many of those who
have long wanted, but D> did not buy because everyone else
D> disk space clogged with trash), but
You see? Who will buy?
D> just communicate with spektrumistom,
D> "blood brothers":). Very much in buzz,
D> when you sit behind a computer in three hours but D> chi,
and you know that at the other end of D> kind (in the house
next door) sitting people and then D> pours the same texts in
the terminal ... Can
Again, not quite agree with you.
Yet not much of a buzz in when you dozvanivaeshsya to the
station, and there - busy. Then finally released, you walk, and
sysop immediately arises: "But we are here to Vas'ey Pupkin'ym
schA boltatli in the term two and a half hours! "And I called
for letters ... And it turns out that, indeed, call
two hours, and, dial-up, working on a BBS
just a minute or two ... : (((
Yes, indeed, is now in vogue include
protracted terminal conversation. I am not a supporter of such
interviews. Want to get worn out - offered to drop the pipe ...
And sometimes you want stop talking, but not obtained:
wound up sysop. And "Shut up!" he did not say ... :)
D> just take the pipe, and talk of D> Much faster, but
consider this: what D> conversation with a stranger?
Here I am about that: what to talk to
him in the terminal?
D> Just in the terminal there is always time
D> ponder each word, the next question D> grew up, search the
right prog ...
Agreed. As one philosopher, not
I remember already - who "talk - it's improvisation, writing
the same - always a masterpiece." It why men love the ladies to
write love notes, and the ladies love to receive them ...
But it is not better if The letter sysop
to talk to than in the terminal? Indeed, over
letter can be more in-depth thinking,
than over a partially transmitted symbol
words of the terminal presentation?
D> DIMON
Regards, Yuri.
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Here is the mood here ...
I think that many points raised in this
Article forced to think of all the facts,
who more or less involved in the computer
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