ZX-Party
Things are moving! At the moment of the Spectrum media have
supported us already three newspapers: "Polesie", "Nicron" and
"Wallpaper", for that express their deep gratitude.
We would like to communicate with other editions, but,
unfortunately, for technical reasons to do so far failed.
Slightly below you can read the reviews
our colleagues and readers, and now invite you to review the
information concerning new voting CC'000, about which was
discussed in the previous issue "ZX-News". We contacted one of
the organizers of this party and its founder, Vsevolod Potapov
/ Random (Concern Chaos, Australia), seeking comment
the data we have. In response to editorial
received a letter with detailed and comprehensive
response:
"Many thanks for your support, it is very
glad to see that in addition to critical newspapers have
More newspaper with brains! All very well
described. I understand perfectly your position with
Fantopom (if he was) - I myself have spent
to party in Moscow, if I could, but there was no
people when I announced the SS'000 and, moreover,
Then it was unknown whether or Fantop
no. However, just 90 percent of people
on the party came up and asked: "Will
Do SS'000? ". However, let's see how
things will go, maybe SS'303 (the latter
kind?) will be held exactly in Moscow, but
to live up to this need.
About voting on SS'000. Already
practically agreed that the vote on the demonstrations (only on
the Spectrum, so as a PC / Amiga this issue and do not like
costs) will be somewhat different,
than it was before - each will receive a demonstration of two
estimates: the design and code. We hope people will understand
that this is not simply and vote correctly (ie, evaluate
correct). Thus, each deme receives two votes, which will
_summirovavanny_ the vote, but not discarded. T. e. results
will be summed up by _obschey_ assessment, but will also be
given vote in both categories. (So that immediately
becomes clear: this deme was adopted more people and had so
much animation and so much code).
Sample results will be:
rank demo code / design total
1. Demo X / A Group 899/101 1 000
2. Demo Y / B Group 300/600 900
I hope that is understandable. :) Ask further questions (if
any) and suggestions that while there is time.
mailto: random@chaosite.com
Concern Chaos Website: http://www.chaosite.com
Best regards, Random / CC ".
And indeed: send your wishes and questions, they will be
considered organizers CC'000 - while there is time.
Well, thank you for your response, Random!
And wait for new requests ... :)
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Now, we hasten to say many thanks
Editor of "Polesie", Alexander Seleznev /
Kvazar'u (Grodno) for practical support - Publication of the
information about the ZX-Party on the pages of his publication.
By the way, because namely Kvazar first raised the issue in
ehokonferentsiyah and then at his living
participation in the rule was introduced CC'000 item
a new ballot. So we are doubly
nice to enlist its support in the future.
We now turn to the rest of the reviews of our colleagues. We
remind you that due to overlap with access to computer networks
we have not succeeded until contact with the rest of the press.
Vladimir Bulchukey / Wlodek Black (Moscow), editor Nicron'a,
said that there should be only one major festival, and other
local party can be held only on the condition that they will not
divide the scene, ie do not qualify for
status of the chief. Totally agree with him.
We believe that the local party should aim to identify local
talent.
And the editor Wallpaper'a, Arthur Ishmurzin / Art
(Tashkent) was not limited to issues related to the party:
1. In general, I support the idea
that there should be one "main" festival.
In favor of this speaks volumes. However, there
one "but" - there will always be one or more alternative
demoparti organized people, whose interests were somehow
violated the "official" festival, and that will only climb from
the skin in order to prove "krivost" organizers SS'000. To
prevent this it is necessary or do SS'000 ideal demopati (which
unrealistic), or do not pay much attention to their opponents. "
ZXN: Is it possible to pay attention to all sorts of _mestnye_
event (as if any more Organizers called vanity), who, if they
try to present as an alternative to the central party, only
share spektrumistov wishing to communicate with like-minded
people? These local party, as mentioned earlier, should
identify local talent (which can then successfully performed at
center festival), so if you
They shall be convened by the creative folk, it is argued that
these activities are no way inferior to the central festival,
etc. - Their value is questionable.
2. It's time to introduce separate evaluation dem technique
and in plot. This conflict has been brewing for a long time. A
peak reached on FT'98 - "Refresh" and "Forever", demos
first-class each in its own - and choose have one. More
precisely, we need to do is not specifically separate
assessment, and enter it comprehensive form. For example in the
visitors' questionnaires will be a list of all of dem,
presented on a computer. And each demos the form of
mini-questionnaire:
a) Goods (spetsefektov, etc.);
b) plot;
a) music and FX support;
d) general view of the demo.
And judged by 5 - (10 -, 16 -) ball
system. After calculating the average score and
show winner.
This, of course, simplistic. We should also think much to
this theory was feasible in practice. "
ZXN: This detailed type of assessment we shall soon
all appear on the next. festivals, after
test in practice a new principle of voting, which is already
approved in the rules CC'000.
3. As for the support softostroeniya -
here I am totally in favor. Both hands. That
You can still say ... If you need support line pursued by
"ZX-News", our "WP" - the problem I'm always ready storm. :) "
ZXN: Agreed! :)
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And finally - feedback from our readers.
For the first time since the revival of "ZX-News"
yield of the new facilities has caused a flurry
flames in the main SPbZXNet'noy echo. :) Editor for a long time
and then had to explain to the networker ... ;-) From the
responses, came from the reversal ehokonferentsy, most of which
dealt with issues, highlights the opinion of Boris Sokol,
coordinator SPbZXNet. Held shortly allowed to talk in more
detail to highlight its views.
First there was full agreement with
that the best way to realize themselves in
Spectrum is to create a game and
system software; that deme, not presented at the party, is an
indicator of a monstrous waste of creative energy wasted. By
the way, agree with this and many other SPbZXNet'chiki.
According to Boris, precisely because of this situation for the
past 4-5 years Spectrum loses its position as the home computer.
But on the Spectrum can realize itself in many areas: Fido,
Internet, new programs at the present level for radio,
musicians, artists, etc.
For example, the network software. Now it exists only under
the TR-DOS, where he worked with Mail to a half or two
megabytes of several difficult, to say the least. And this is
Existence of IS-DOS, the operating system, originally targeted
for professional work with large volumes of information! It is
believed that the IS-DOS buggy, braking, and to top it all, has
dwarf the amount of RAM. Between
so few people know that Michael Kondrat (the author of Spectrum
archiver ZXZip) for almost two years ago, has already remade
core IS-DOS'a and now it is not free
16 kB, as before, but as much as 80 kb (!) - Agree, this is
quite enough for any program, including networking software.
Also when working with e-mail without
hard drive (computer, not the cowboy:)) to manage difficult.
However, in TR-DOS with his work is useless - there is still a
limit of 640 KB. The only way out - IS-DOS, the more so because
of common today HDD controllers
the cheapest and easiest to build is
Nemo'vsky option, which is calculated as
time on this OS. In short, the withdrawal of Boris is as
follows: on the Spectrum to develop network software,
focusing on the IS-DOS as the most suitable for him on
Wednesday.
If you are interested in technical
details, write to our address (see
under the heading "From the Editors") - with pleasure
answer.
During the conversation also touched upon, and Boris
entertainment programs. For example, why not release on the
Spectrum karaoke? Yes, there are some difficulties with the
implementation of AY on some music, but because obstacles
generate interest. For sure Many of the musicians want to
promote, so to speak, on the Spectrum to your favorite tunes
and songs. Especially because the conversion process, more
precisely, the music will give a wealth of experience with
which may be can begin to create their new Reformation rhythms.
(Skill Incidentally, it is easier to get that way than wasting
time on numerous trial and error when creating their music -
smart always learn from others' mistakes.)
On the technical side of things too much difficulty there,
most importantly - Synchronize the lyrics with the melody, but
it is quite solvable problem (although the work is more routine
for the encoder, but he was to her is no stranger:)). In short,
the Spectrum musicians can try out new
and attractive area of creativity, creating
music programs for karaoke.
Another Boris shared his thoughts on
about the games. According to him, should continue
continue to develop logic games -
on the Spectrum, they were always very smart,
so to speak, ie, their artificial intelligence does not yield
to the modern game with other platforms, and some even surpass
them (for example, the English "Reversy"). Which begs this
conclusion? That's right: better to do modern remixes
_spektrumovskih_ old puzzle games, and not convert the current
inoplatformennye, if I may say so:) because They turned out to
be a little blunt, ;-) moreover are often uncomfortable and
gently speaking, the interface ...
Eventually, Boris hoped
that the wording "ZX-News" will take
trouble in identifying the most urgent tasks facing the
authors. However, without the opinions of the authors we can
not do so We encourage you to join the discussion! The original
purpose of the editor - to draw public attention to an
interesting issues and to highlight the true light of the
current situation now on the Spectrum - done, and rather
successfully. Further development of the topic is now possible
only with mutual cooperation with you, the
readers-spektrumistami. Of course, we will do everything we can
to focus not extinguished, but the final word is yours, or
rather, just for you, reading these lines now!
Fight with sceners "ZX-News" is not going to like maybe some
thought. On the contrary, we continue to recommend not paying
any attention to them (because it to them as breathing air) -
once now spend time on the controversy with all sorts of eggs,
what, unfortunately, are, if not all, most of these people.
Today we should take practical actions to revive the healthy
atmosphere of creativity with you our favorite Hobbies on
behalf of Spectrum. __________________________________________
And finally present to you a letter from
Slaine Harbinger'a (St. Petersburg), who first sent in response
to elevated the last issue of "ZX-News" theme. Subsequently
came to us and other interesting letters, but because of the
large volume of this issue we publish them in the lyrics.
release, and yet acquainted with it (printed in full):
Hello, Dear Editors "ZX-News" and
All readers of this, in general, the actual
and interesting papers! At the behest of the soul, heart, brain
and other organs;) shaking with a mold and a web of
indifference, adhere for a dozen years of my stay at the
Spectrum, I decided to still write in "Newskah. And the reason
has got a very weighty - Opinion Editorial. There are, than to
argue with ... ;-)
ZXN: We are glad that we could awaken even
such a person ... :)
Reporter: So, rech will be about the article from
50-th number in which the revised his opinion on the party and
to demomeykinge all your favorite (and who is "not all" - that
will punish;]) Spectrum.
I prisoedinyayu the opinion of the editorial board of
monopolization in St. Petersburg for parties. However,
certainly not all the participants, as usually will have the
opportunity to come to Peter, and in this case, you must somehow
to organize more or less normal delivery of their papers to
party, where to start reception of works, let's have already
Months three to start the contest.
ZXN: We would like to see that it was completely
not about the monopolization of festivals
in St. Petersburg (why else mentioned FunTop?),
and the approval of a single central party year, the status of
which does not have to pretend all sorts of local festivals.
Reporter: Here I quote from the article
and his opinion on them.
"<...> Demomeyking born as
means of expressing coolness programmer
his creative level. That is, the demos showed the possibility
of their creators in the field code. "
It is worth noting that the demos for some
programmers were some "transitional
stage "to more serious projects.
ZXN: Of course, it's not starting with the same
create a "Super New Elite". And this is only
confirms that the demos may not be
prestigious game or system software. :) But we should not lose
sight of and the fact that the best domestic geymmeyker B.
Mednonogov / Copper Feet started his career was with the game
(even if simple), but not with dem - the result, as they say,
is obvious. ;-)
Reporter: Next edition is not very
plausible tale about the "plot" and animation demah, not really
separate these two concept, although one another, in principle,
not is neither a confirmation nor denial (I will not quote
because of the rather large amount of text). The plot in the
demonstrations - this is not quite the same as the plot in
books or games. I would like to clarify that the organizers put
Chaos Constructions in the concept of "plot".
ZXN: In our view, animation, no story
will look even worse than that of
effect. :) If Deme is animation, then
she must have the subject line, otherwise it makes no sense.
By the way, how can it be that the plot in
books, movies, games, etc., there was one, and
in demah - another? About the same term "plot" was told that it
is conditional, the final version of the name of the new
nomination organizers have not yet approved (currently in the
rules CC'000 this concept appears under the title "design").
Reporter: "Organized Chaos Constructions
now seriously considering a proposal
for approval of a vote in two categories - the best code and
best story. That is, the first time took a step toward the
actual development demomeykinga.
Official information on the new
voting and other issues, we will present in cl. rooms "ZX-News"
Indeed, I would like to find out!
ZXN: Well, the message Random'a already familiar to all readers
"ZX-News". :)
Reporter: By the way, you can still add a nomination: "the
best musical accompaniment demonstrations "(although it may be
already too?), but it is, to the word.
ZXN: In principle, the idea is not bad, only that
nomination, if she is likely to be
should be conducted as an extra. The main thing - break the
deadlock. Incidentally, all suggestions and comments published
in the "ZX-News", sent for consideration directly to the
organizers of Chaos Constructions, so if you have any more
any thoughts about CC'000, then go ahead
write to the editor and we will be happy to
publish it.
Reporter: Thanks "<...> annoying noisy propaganda of
scenery, among <...> spektrumistov widely believed that you can
prove your skill demah only, and not in games or systems
programs. Meanwhile, the deme, which is not
was represented at the party, is an indicator of a monstrous
waste of creative energy wasted, and believe me, none for such a
labor is not to say thank you (to put it mildly) of its
author. "
Frankly, not all that bad. Personally
I never heard such statements about demah, as the only way
evidence of skill. Imho, dear
edited too exaggerates. However, it is worth remembering the
famous team of Digital Reality. They have done themselves a
great name precisely at the demonstrations, no serious gaming
or system projects from them was not (except, of course, demos
"Doom" ;-)). Perhaps this example and provided the impetus (not
the one toilet) for almost hysterical riveting "demos"
other and often "demos" were similar to each
on the other ...
ZXN: This propaganda is always
indirectly. About the same Digital Reality
we say: we should not forget that
much of its success was based on the skillful
policies of its highly talented organizer. Demos, this group
only vystavlyalya at the central festival, and they occupy
high places ensured the popularity of
creations DR.
Reporter: Hmm. You know, I even had an association with
DJ-s: DJs peredirayut each other samples and demomeykery -
effects ... Incidentally, for those who do not know:
demomeyking originated on Amiga, and many visual effects (if
not most) in Spectrum demos "borrowed"
precisely because of Amiga demos. Probably
there is no demos on the Spectrum, which is not
would be no such "loan".
ZXN: Demomeyking as a way of competition,
appeared on Commondore 64. On the Amiga demos
first demonstrated the possibility of machine
for promotional purposes. But the loan, it is obvious
appeared because of the ban on animated demo.
Reporter: "On the Spectrum the best way to realize itself -
is the creation of some gaming system or program with which
deme and close can not be compared: for example, recently
released game "Operation" OIL "or sistemka "BestView" shut up
for the belt any DeMouy!
Do not be like this in the forehead compared with the
demonstration games or sistemkami - is different areas of
computer art and, accordingly, the requirements of each of
these areas differ. Simply, imho, not worth fixate on one demah.
ZXN: Did you mean that the game is much more prestigious and
sistemki dem. And what demos on Spectrum should be only a means
of competitions and festivals, or this is very bad for Spectrum
platform, which we now observe. (However, recent signs of
improvement: there are many system software, which begins to
fill that gap that has formed over the past dvatri year - and
that we explain the fact that most of the scenery-demomeykerov
today piled with the Spectrum.)
Reporter: "Actually, demomeyking as a means of
self-assertion appeared on other platforms where it is very
hard to make their creative ideas in the form of game or system
program, because they will inevitably sink into the abyss -
this software sea and no one had pay attention (this already
formed there atmosphere). "
On my own I want to add that the main
the problem of domestic production of software
for example, "pisyukov" - is the inability to
(Unwillingness?) Combines creative
groups, inability to work as a team. A
because at such a difficult and demanding
platform as a PC, a productive work
possible _only_ with harmonious collaboration
work and a clear division of the set
problems between creators, where everyone understands what is
required. And one here is safety, and playing in the first cast
on the Spectrum, not all easy to pass on
second or third role for the PC, where the authority
money, of course, much harder.
"95% of the produced programs today are demami (figuratively
speaking, since demami can only be called what was
predestavleno to party). "
In general, I agree with the editorial board
maschet that demonstrations - rather,
subject to competition. However, imho,
"Private" establishment "demos" will always be present.
ZXN: In most cases, they will exist as the first experiments
beginning encoder programming.
Reporter: "We believe that it is now all clear why such a
crisis on the Spectrum with ON. "
This is one reason, and not the most
terrible.
ZXN: It is curious to learn about the more terrible because of
the crisis on. :) Other platforms, pls, do not touch - it is
called in and primitive theme. (Any computer when
its use goes beyond the desktop application, turns into a hobby
- accordingly, if someone with access to
al platform forgets Spectrum, the
he just changed his hobby. Speak
as the priority of a hobby - is akin to claims that the best
aquarium terrarium (or vice versa), which driving more
interesting than the control of the helicopter / boat etc.)
Reporter: "<...> purpose for which we have touched on this
theme - the desire to deliver creative ideas spektrumistov
imposed by unthinking riveting dem to give them the opportunity
to realize ourselves the really! After all, if a person creates
a game or a system program, it receives
recognition of absolutely all spektrumistov,
whereas when he was writing demos, firstly, deprived of the
potential fame, because demomeykingom interested in a very
narrow circle of people, and secondly, strongly bark furiously
at risk of being someone from the scenery, which is not like
any effect ... "
Probably, under the concept of "mindless riveting dem"
edition has in mind a useless waste of Spectrum building in
fact creating something original is getting harder, and when
"demo" rained like autumn leaves, it does not improve position.
But is it easy to stop the creative impulse? ;-)))
ZXN: But this impulse is always possible to send the sound
track. :) In the area games and software programs is limitless
for creating an entirely new and original software. Even if
little time to develop their copyright
project, it is possible to realize themselves, such as the
beautiful relizera, releasing remixes of old programs, or
extracting unknown branded games (see "Opinion").
Reporter: And what about barking ... Is heard among
thousands of enthusiastic exclamations one-two protesters?
Maybe the contest deme, and will not be, but owing to its
computer networks, many will see and appreciate in dignity.
Spektrumisty - people are sensible when necessary, and not
inclined to majority, to succumb to provocations.
ZXN: Something enthusiastic exclamations on demam we met quite
not enough - to example, readers of "ZX-News" in his letters,
among the many issues on the software, never touched dem. This
and the mass Other evidence suggests that good
game, or a system of positive feedback the program will be many
times greater than deme. In particular, the author-debutant
"Homer Simpson In Russia "after the release of their game
became known to many spektrumistam - and this happens, as a
rule, all sponsored games and software programs. A
Issue demos not guarantee similar
Fame - the only exception when
she can win the party (compo). That's why we advocate for
ensuring that demos were created only for festivals!
Correspondent: P.S. There is another very important question
regarding the Spectrum party. The essence of the problem is
this: on the Spectrum party should take place _only_ Spectrum.
PC, Amiga and other apparatnoi programmnonesovmestimye with
Spectrum platform should not be present at these
seyshnah itself as a competitive
platform! I am sure that many very concerned about this issue,
so I think it will far more than raise it in the next
rooms "ZX-News", and in other electronic publications Spectrum
too ...
ZXN: We raise this question in the same room "ZX-News". So,
here are the advantages of a purely Spectrum Festival: joyful
atmosphere of like-minded participants sblizayuschaya party,
solid guarantee of quality technical support, all proceeds go
in favor of the Spectrum ... At the same time,
conducting multi-platform party is much easier to find
sponsors, information support - by the way, thanks to her about
festival can learn and those spektrumisty, which by any reason
separated from the rest of the world's Spectrum (a these are
not so little), but have access to "pisishnoy" information,
where they can learn about Spectrum party. Especially because
the first day of Chaos Constructions Spectrum is dedicated (but
will be present and BC, but this platform does not interfere
with the way the PC or Amiga). In general, we leave the
question open - maybe even living creature wants to speak to
him? ..
Reporter: So far, all, but IT IS NOT
OVER ... A "load" you Slaine Harbinger
a.k.a. Avatar.
Sayonara!
ZXN: Thank you very much for your letter! Thanks
him, we were able to highlight interesting questions
are sure to have appeared at many of our
readers.
We are waiting for new messages!
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