Spectrum in World??? (I’ll change SUBJ anyway, ok?)
ZXNet echo conference «zx.spectrum»
From Spirit → To All 13 April 1998
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▓ 04/12/98 ▐ SouRCe: Andrew Savichev [aKa 2:5020/400] ═ All
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>> AS> I told you that the Spectrum is a Russian people’s computer :)
>> This doesn’t make it any easier for us =(
AS> It’s even easier :)...if Russian is a folk one, then we will endure everything and
AS> we will overcome;) But seriously, folklore is the most valuable thing
AS> any nation has. Just to give room to the flight of imagination.
AS> Sometimes some people have already succeeded and are succeeding quite well. In general, everything
AS> doesn’t matter, what’s important is talent and the ability to “breathe soul” into a piece of hardware.
AS> And then...first out of curiosity, and then for pleasure, users
AS> will gravitate back to the Spectrum.
;DDD
AS> Well, what if they start lamenting that “such authors on the Spectrum
AS> are “disappearing””...THAT’S THE BUSINESS DONE.
And really, what kind of lamers write all sorts of C&C2 and Starcraft? ;))
AS> In general, I am 100% sure that the real biography of Spectrum
AS> in Russia is just beginning.
Well, I am 100% sure of the opposite, excuse me...
>> AS> However, if in the 50 richest countries in the world
>> 50 richest countries? Offhand:... ? Five in America, fivein Asia,
>> 15 in Europe... That's it. The rest live poorer than us, i.e. in general, read, they don’t
>> live.
AS> Seryoga, what do they teach you in the academies?...if only your brains...don’t
AS> have been caulked...a man from the States just wrote to me, $15,000 a year is
AS> the level of poverty, he himself has $70,000 a year as a programmer.
Well, that’s right. So they have corresponding costs! Medicine, education
paid. It costs about a grand to pull out a tooth... Just count it.
AS> And when I started a conversation in relcom.talk on the topic that it would be nice
AS> for Russia to give its people a salary,
Stupidity.
AS> so all sorts of
AS> mongrels of Russian bourgeois attacked me with foam on their fangs...
And rightly so: different countries, different standards. If we don't know how to work, why should we pay money? This usually does not apply to programmers, but it is necessary to somehow correlate the salary with the national average!
AS> You see, they need to make capital,
It’s the same in the West. Do you think they pay $70,000 out of generosity?
AS> and everyone is robbing Russia, so you can sit on $200 for the rest of your life
AS>! :(
Where do we get the money to pay? The country receives money only from the export
of raw materials, for which prices have recently fallen. We don’t know how to do anything normally, we have switched to
Western food products. Everything is imported. The factories are standing still, the world is already dependent on coal
minersI gave up a long time ago... Why pay money? Our climate is nasty, you can’t build resorts, and where it was possible to build them, those places have long been trashed. The country has many enemies, no allies, and no strong army either. All the
loans that were given were stolen long ago... Well, why should we
raise our salaries? In Asian countries they are content with less, but they know how to work.
AS> and for $500 they will squeeze everything they can and cannot out of you!!!
For America, $70,000 is a little more than our $500. And they squeeze the same amount out of them.
AS> Our average in Russia is $2,400 a year, just think.
So what? Half the country doesn’t pay for their salaries.
AS> All of Europe, including Serbia and Estonia and Lithuania in terms of per capita income
AS> is better than us, Europe is not 15 countries (you are small, the richest
AS> count them ;) )
Trifles like the Vatican don’t count - I don’t think the Pope cuts his teeth
in Dizzy in the morning ;)
AS> Asia on one Arabian Peninsula, and also to the north to Turkey
AS> - you can’t go wrong, EVERYTHING IS RICHER.
Oh well... Their elite is richer, but ordinary people (potential spektrumists ;)
- no.
AS> Everything that is not Vietnam and east of Burma is richer than us!
So they know how to work...
AS> Indonesia - richer.
Well, this is a resort.
AS> About Australia and New Zealand, I hope you also don’t think that there
AS> anyone is content with $200 a month.
In terms of living standards, they are notso rich...
AS> In India, the average salary of a beginning programmer is $1000 per
AS> month.
And India generally sucks. For almost a billion inhabitants, there are slightly less than a billion
absolute beggars. There is money there, but only a few.
AS> South Africa, I hope you have no doubts about
AS> the insolvency (solvency) of the population.
Only South Africa...
AS> And finally, you don’t have a high opinion about Latin America, but however
AS> things are a little better with income there.
Several countries.
AS> So 51st place is unlikely, more like a hundred some kind in the world -
AS> this is POOR RUSSIA.
Whoever knows how to work and who has a valuable profession gets enough.
>> Well, where do Spectrums come from in Japan?
AS> Ha...they and Zilogom are all o'k. There are Yamahas though. But I don’t know,
AS> I won’t lie.
In Japan? The consoles are fancy for children, but adults have no time for “exotic”
computers.
>> Even if that’s the case... What? What are they worth? Tomorrow they will take Speck off the shelf and
>> take it to the landfill, and then launch C&C2 and, believe me, they will get no less
>> pleasure.
AS> They have idiots who organize clubs for 4004 programmers.
`'`'`'`'' that's for sure!
AS> You don't get it...mass is synonymous with cheapness for them...piss - trash,
AS>дешевка! Спектрум, Амига - рулез!
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