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From Sergei Dubarev To All 20 March 2003

Hello Alexander!

Thursday March 20, 2003, 19:34,
Alexander Kotov -> All:

AK> People, where did the subject go?
it was closed. but has already returned to life.

WBR, Sergei Dubarev

From Alexander Kotov To All 20 March 2003

Hello, All!

People, where did the subject go?

Bye, All!
WBR, Alexander...

... e-mail: c...@cmail.info.kuzbass.net

From Igor Turashev To All 20 March 2003

...hi.Alexander!

...Alexander Kotov ..> All:

AK> People, where did the subject go?
Moved somewhere, because... There were problems with copyright, I don't
know the details.

...bye.Alexander! ...tigrr//bw::ceg
... radix - i realize ...

From Aleksandr Majorov To All 20 March 2003

πpΙΧΕΤ Alexander!

20 νΑp 03 19:34, Alexander Kotov -> All:

AK> HΑpΟΔ Α ΛyΔΑ ΣΑΒΦ ΠΟΔΕΧΑΜΣΡ ?

Ά                          HΑήΑΜΟ zxdaru.txt                          ¦
€ ZX.SPECTRUM (2:5030/675.50) €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ ZX.SPECTRUM €
σΟΟΒ : 3832 ΙΪ 4092 +3844 3849 3859
οΤ : Sergei Dubarev 2:450/42.24 11 νΑp 03 22:20:27
λΟΝy : All 12 νΑp 03 03:04:04
τΕΝΑ : ZX.DA.RU WAS CLOSED
€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€
Hello All!

σΑΒΦ. ιΪ-ΪΑ ΦΑΜΟΒΩ ΑΝΕpΙΛΑΞΣΛΙΘ ΑΔΧΟΛΑΤΟΧ ΟΒΜΑΔΑΤΕΜΡ ΠpΑΧ ΞΑ ΞΕΛΟΤΟpΩΕ ΙΗpyΫΛΙ.
πpΙήΕΝ ΧΝΕΣΤΕ Σ ΞΙΝ, ΠΟΘΟΦΕ, ΪΑΛpΩΤΩ ΧΟΟΒέΕ ΧΣΕ ΠΟΔΔΟΝΕΞΩ ΞΑ άΤΟΝ ΑΛΛΑyΞΤΕ,
ΧΛΜΐήΑΡ Ι ΟΣΞΟΧΞΟΚ ΔΟΝΕΞ. :(

WBR, Sergei Dubarev

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€ ZX.SPECTRUM (2:5030/675.50) €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ ZX.SPECTRUM €
σΟΟΒ : 4083 ΙΪ 4092
οΤ : Nikolay Shpilchin 2:5071/99 20 νΑp 03 10:32:45
λΟΝy : All 20 νΑp 03 14:31:19
τΕΝΑ : ZX.DA.RU NEWS
€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€
πpΙΧΕΤ,All

HΕΛΟΤΟpΩΕ ΞΟΧΟΣΤΙ: ΣΑΚΤ pΑΒΟΤΑΕΤ ΠΟ ΑΔpΕΣΑΝ zx.da.ru, zx.net.ru. λΑΛΟΚ ΙΪ
ΑΔpΕΣΟΧ ΣΤΑΞΕΤ ΟΣΞΟΧΞΩΝ, ΙΜΙ ΧΣΕ ΟΣΤΑΞΕΤΣΡ ΛΑΛ ΕΣΤΨ - ΪΑΧΙΣΙΤ ΟΤ πΟΜΑ. ζΑΚΜΟΧ
ΞΑ ΣΑΚΤΕ ΠΟΛΑ ΞΕΤ, ΞΟ ΣΛΟpΟ ΞΑήΞΕΝ ΪΑΛΑήΙΧΑΤΨ. υ ΛΟΗΟ ΒΩΜΙ ΠpΕΔΜΟΦΕΞΙΡ ΠΟ
ΘΟΣΤΙΞΗy? εΣΤΨ ΠpΕΔΜΟΦΕΞΙΕ - ΣΔΕΜΑΤΨ round robin, ΤΟ ΕΣΤΨ yΣΜΟΧΞΟΕ
ΪΕpΛΑΜΙpΟΧΑΞΙΕ. αΔpΕΣ ΟΔΙΞ, ΘΟΣΤΙΞΗΟΧ ΞΕΣΛΟΜΨΛΟ. εΣΜΙ ΟΔΙΞ ΞΕ ΟΤΪΩΧΑΕΤΣΡ -
ΠpΟΙΣΘΟΔΙΤ ΠΕpΕΑΔpΕΣΑΓΙΡ ΞΑ ΔpyΗΟΚ. τΕΘΞΙήΕΣΛΑΡ ΧΟΪΝΟΦΞΟΣΤΨ y ΝΕΞΡ ΕΣΤΨ. φΔy
ΠpΕΔΜΟΦΕΞΙΚ.

See you

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Aleksandr

From Nikolaj Amosov To All 21 March 2003

Hello, Alexander!

March 20, 03 (and it was 19:34 then)
Alexander Kotov in his letter to All wrote:

AK> People, where did the subject go?

The Americans covered it up...

From Dmitry Edison To All 21 March 2003

Hello Aleksandr!

Skip

AM> 12 Mar 03 03:04:04 Topic: ZX.DA.RU WAS CLOSED

Skip

AM> Subject. Due to a complaint from American lawyers of the owner of the rights to
AM> some toys.

I wonder who we are talking about... :-/


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From Comoderator of Real.Speccy To All 21 March 2003

NA>> Thank you very much...
AK> Thank you......


AK> Hello, Nikolaj!
AK> WBR, Alexander...

AK> ... e-mail: c...@cmail.info.kuzbass.net
AK> -+- CAV was here...
AK> + Origin: none (2:5001/27.20)

...bye.Alexander! ...tigrr//bw::ceg
... some music CD

From Alexander Kotov To All 21 March 2003


WBR, Alexander...

... e-mail: c...@cmail.info.kuzbass.net

From Aleksandr Majorov To All 21 March 2003

AM>> Subject. Due to a complaint from American lawyers of the owner of the rights to
AM>> some toys.

From Dmitry Edison To All 22 March 2003

AM>>> Subject. Due to a complaint from American lawyers of the owner of the rights to
AM>>> some toys.
DE>> I wonder who we are talking about... :-/

From Sergei Dubarev To All 22 March 2003

DE> Whose lawyers!? What games?...
lawyers of the office that owns the rights to Donkey Kong, 007, Barbarian, Mario and
Top Gun. I don't know the name of the office. however, this is no longer so important. site
starts life in a new place.

WBR, Sergei Dubarev

From Aleksandr Majorov To All 22 March 2003

DE> Whose lawyers!? What kind of games?...

Damn, why can’t I watch ZX.SPECTRUM?
Should I forward all the letters from here to here at the same time? ;)

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From: paul....@mailandnews.com (Paul Pavlov)

Nikolay Shpilchin <Nikolay....@f99.n5071.z2.fidonet.org> wrote in message
news:<10474...@f99.n5071.z2.fidonet.ftn>...

> Hello, Sergei
>
> 11 03 03 from Sergei Dubarev to All:
>
> SD> Subject. Due to a complaint from American lawyers of the owner of the rights to
> SD> some
> SD> toys. And together withIt seems that all subdomains
>SD> on
>SD> on this account are closed, including the main domain. :(
> Is the archive still there?
>
> See you

No, no one showed me a warrant from The Hague - I want to provide a couple of
letters about my hosting with the Khokhlyan provider hostsila.com
First (my) letter -
---------------------
Hello, Dear administration hostsila.com!
For some reason you closed my site Virtual TR-DOS, located at
http://www.zxnetspec.org/VTRDOS
Could you please explain the reason for this action?
I tried to contact Looker, i.e. the person who provided
me with more than 400 MB for this hosting, but hehe disappeared somewhere and doesn't
reply
to email.
I would be grateful for any information. :)
-----------------
Answer:
-----------------
We are forced to disable your hosting for the site zxnetspec.org
Here is the text from the law office:
It has come to our attention that your server located at
[207.44.134.20]
is in violation of our AUP/TOS by way of the following URL(S):
http://www.zxnetspec.org/VTRDOS/

The URL(S) stated above is in violation by way of infringes the
rights of
one or more IDSA members by offering for download one or more
unauthorized
copies of one or more game products protected by copyright,
including, but
not limited to:007, Barbarian, Donkey Kong, Mario, Top Gun (Game).
We must demand that you take prompt action in the removal of the
material
in question or we will be forced to take further action. The time is
now
3/5/03 9:34:11AM.
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My second letter ;)
--------------------------
Hmm... I wouldn’t dare call the toys for the ZX Spectrum of 15-20 years ago Varez. You can, of course, put broken links to the data of the toys so that they do not download or link them from another site (not with your hosting). As far as I know, links to other people, even so-called warez sites, are not prohibited.
In addition, these toys make up less than 1% of the site.
Is it possible to ignore these American lawyers?
Why is it possible to turn everything off just after one approximate letter? Or hosting in the USA?

In general, even in order to fix it, I need to at least
restore access to the site. Isn't that right? ;)

-----------
Fucking answer from the hoster:
------------
This was a warning for us.
Next time, in the best case, they will turn off the server IP or confiscate the
server.
So there is no need for Varez or links to them... Your domain has already been exposed.
In general, people who do such things simply do not allow their site to be
indexed in google.com, they probably reached you through Google!
We can delete your /VTRDOS/ andturn on your hosting.
But, no more warez!!!

With respect,
Vitaly.
Manager HostPro.com.ua
icq 124257780
--------------------------

Here, I ask you to speak out on this topic - does anyone need my site?
And what do you think about such hosters?

--
Best regards, Paul Pavlov
zxr...@tut.by
http://zx.da.ru
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Aleksandr

From Dmitry Edison To All 23 March 2003

SD> lawyers for the office that owns the rights to Donkey Kong, 007, Barbarian,
SD> Mario and Top Gun. I don't know the name of the office. however, this is no longer so
SD> important.

Never mind “not so important”! :-[] How so? This happens every day, so that the bourgeoisie covers our sites and something else, because of Spectrum games!

sd> the site begins life in a new place.

From Sergei Dubarev To All 23 March 2003

Hello Dmitry!

On Sunday March 23, 2003, 08:33,
Dmitry Edison -> Sergei Dubarev:

DE> Wow, “not so important”! :-[] How so? It’s like this happens every day
DE> so that the bourgeoisie will cover our sites and something else, because of
DE> Spectrum games!
Spectrum games for them are the same intellectual property as
Windows. The bourgeoisie prefer to pester only when they can actually do something. Until the PP site moved to the USA, there were no problems. Now he will
live in Russia, as I understand it, and therefore see below.

From Maxim Latysh To All 25 March 2003

Once on March 23, 03 I read an opus in which
Sergei Dubarev and Dmitry Edison spoke on the topic zx.da.ru was closed, I intervened:

SD> like Windows. The bourgeoisie prefer to pester only when they can actually do something. Until the PP site moved to the USA, there were no problems
SD>. Now he will live in Russia, as I understand it, and therefore see below.

When did he move to the USA? The hosting was closed down by a Ukrainian company and false
data was disseminated.

And about intellectual property, you are all wrong here, no one
asked me either, can we put your creation there, but I don’t care about the
Americans no. You need to respect the authors at least a little.


With respect, Maxony.

From Sergei Dubarev To All 27 March 2003

ML> when did he go to the USA? The hosting was covered up by a Ukrainian company and the nonfiction
ML> spread false data.
gentlemen. have you seen the correspondence with the hoster? I - saw. hoster - Ukrainian
(hostsila.com, or something), but that server of his on which lived zx.da.ru, physically
located on site in the USA. That's why the site was slammed - in the states the server
could even be confiscated. Later the office agreed to turn on the account again,
with the condition that there would be no warez. But what's the use of Virtual TR-DOS without a
file archive?


WBR, Sergei Dubarev

From Vlad Sotnikov To All 1 April 2003

Hello, Sergei!

March 27, 2003 (and it was then 21:17)
Sergei Dubarev in his letter to Maxim Latysh wrote:

SD> gentlemen. Have you seen the correspondence with the hoster? I - saw. hoster -
SD> Ukrainian (hostsila.com, or something), but that server on which he lived
SD> zx.da.ru, physically located at the site in the USA. Therefore, the site and
SD> were slammed - in the states the server could even be confiscated. Later
SD> the office agreed to turn on the account again, with the condition that warez would not be
SD>. But what's the use of Virtual TR-DOS without a file archive?

redirect.

Vega/ex-Style Group.


FIDO: 2:5030/1243.18 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: veg...@mail.ru

From Comoderator of Real.Speccy To All 1 April 2003

SD>> lived zx.da.ru, physically located at the site in the USA. That's why
SD>> the site was slammed - in the states the server could even be confiscated.
SD>> later the office agreed to turn on the account again, with the condition
SD>> that there would be no warez. But what's the use of Virtual TR-DOS without
SD>> file archive?

VS> redirect.

VS> Vega/ex-Style Group.

VS>
VS> FIDO: 2:5030/1243.18 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: veg...@mail.ru

VS> -+- GoldED 2.50+
VS> + Origin: Vicomm - 515-2922, 22:00-00:00. (2:5030/1243.18)

...bye.Vlad! ...tigrr//bw::ceg
... some music CD