Foreign CMOS Dallas with built-in battery and quartz
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subject how to connect via Gluck to KAI/Scorp?
SAYO: ARA, DO:ZE O-GE KI-DE, Evgeny Poddubny.
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On Friday January 11 2002 Evgeny Poddubny wrote to All:
EP> subject how to connect via Gluck to KAYU/Scorpa?
Elementary:
┌─────────────────── cmos_dal.t ────────── ──── ─── ── ─ ─ -
Here is a diagram for connecting Dallas (imported kmos with
battery and quartz) by Arc/RDG. All that is needed is half of the LL1 microcircuit, half of LE1, or the entire LL1, but then you just need to put inverters on the
outputs that should have come from LE1. If port #EFF7 is already ready, then there is nothing to do.
Otherwise, TM8 and ID7 are also required, which
form this very port. Inside ID7 are the high bytes of ports #XXF7, which I remember. Small logic circuits can also be supplied in the 555 series,
but 1533 is still better.
1533ID7 ┌───┐
┌──┬────┐ /RD ─┤LL1├───────┐ DALLAS
A12 ─1─┤A0│DC ╞─15 ┌─────┤ │ │ ┌───┬──────┐
A13 ─2─┤A1│ ╞─14 │ ├───┤ │ │ │ │
A14 ─3─┤A2│ ╞─13 ├─────┤LL1├─────┐ │ ├───┤ │
├──┤#BF-╞─12─┘ ┌┤ │ │ └─17─┤DS │ │
│ │#CF-╞─11 /WR ┤├───┤┌────────14─┤AS │ │
A3 ─4─╡V1│#DF-╞─10─┐ └┤LE1o┘ │ A15 ─6─┤V3│ ╞─7 │ ├───┤ ┌────13─╡cE │ │
└──┴────┘ └──────┤LE1o──┐ │├───┤ │
/WR ──────────────────────┤ │ │ │D0 ──4─┤AD0│ │
└───┘ │ │D1 ──5─┤AD1│ │
┌────────────────────────────┘ │D2 ──6─┤AD2│ │
│ ┌──┬────┐ │D3 ──7─┤AD3│ │
└9─┤C │TT │ 1533ТМ8 │D4 ──8─┤AD4│ │
RESET ─1─╡R │ │ │D5 ──9─┤AD5│ │
├──┤ │ │D6 ─10─┤AD6│ │
D1 ─4─┤D0│ Q0├─2──> │D7 ─11─┤AD7│ │
│ │ /Q0o─3──> │ ├───┤ │
D7 ─5─┤D1│ Q1├─7 │ ┌18─┤rES│ │
│ │ /Q1o─6─────────────────┘ ├20─┤CKF│ │
D4 ─12┤D2│ Q2├─10 ├22─┤PS │ /IRQ╞─19
│ │ /Q2o─11 │ │ ├──────┤
─13┤D3│ Q3├─15 █ │ │ SQW├─23
│ │ /Q3o─14 │10K│ │ CKOUT├─21
└──┴────┘ │ │ ├──────┤
+5V ────┴24─┤Vdd│ Vss├─12┐
└───┴──────┘ │
═╧═
ог 20 и 22 у Далласа может и не быть (как у меня), тогда
цепляйте резюк на существующие (может, у кого других нет). Если
часики будут глюкать, то можно попробовать посадить на 18leg
air conditioner in the region of 18nF to the ground, if there are still glitches,
you can try to plant the first leg of Dalas on the ground or at +5
through the shortcut (where to plant is determined by scientific poker).
Signals from legs 2 and 3 TM8 can be sent to the circuit
additional graphics mode 512*192pix. Then all that remains from that circuit is
KP11 (or KP16) and IR23. Accordingly, from leg 10 you can apply
to the GIGASCREEN circuit, from which there will remain KP11 (or KP16), floor
TM2 and one element LA5.
All this garbage works fine for me, and the circuit was
redrawn for Dallas from the VI1 connection diagram by Roman
Milukov. Redrawn - Tigrr/BW, figured out how to pick up
Dallas - Arc/RDG, redoing Gluck's scheme a little.
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IT> Elementary:
18 pin of the small circuit is connected to RESET, 13 to GND.
1533TM8 is torn off and thrown out. 1 leg MUST be connected
to VCC or GND (I don’t remember exactly, if it doesn’t work you need to change it).
Designed for connecting bourgeois small circuits like DS1227(A).
To connect more than others with an external battery, you need to look at the documentation
. For 512VI1 you need all sorts of transistors, so it’s better
not to mess with it.
[...]
And the given diagram is absolute heresy and nonsense.
I read Insanity #10, Hemo, as always, %-(), but in some ways about
handicrafts he is right...
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IT>> Elementary:
EP> This scheme works for me. Maybe because it is on the same
EP> network with the modem and is connected after the buffer?
Although, IMHO, that’s not the point - now I connected it in front of the buffer, it still doesn’t
work. :(....
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IT> ÇÄÄàÄÄÄÄÉ /RD ÄáÏÏ1ÜÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÉ DALLAS
IT> A12 Ä1ÄáA0ÅDC ØÄ15 ÇÄÄÄÄÄá Å Å ÇÄÄÄàÄÄÄÄÄÄÉ
IT> A13 Ä2ÄáA1Å ØÄ14 Å ÜÄÄÄá Å Å Å Å
IT> A14 Ä3ÄáA2Å ØÄ13 ÜÄÄÄÄÄáÏÏ1ÜÄÄÄÄÄÉ Å ÜÄÄÄá Å
IT> ÜÄÄá#BF-ØÄ12ÄÖ Çá Å Å ÑÄ17ÄáDS Å Å
IT> Å Å#CF-ØÄ11 /WR áÜÄÄÄáÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ14ÄáAS Å Å
IT> A3 Ä4Ä≤V1Å#DF-ØÄ10ÄÉ ÑáÏÂ1oÖ Å Å Å Å
IT> /OIRQ Ä5Ä≤V2Å#EF-ØÄ9ÄÉÑÄÄÄÄÄá Å ÑÄÄÄ15ÄáR/WÅ Å
IT> A15 Ä6ÄáV3Å ØÄ7 Å ÜÄÄÄá ÇÄÄÄÄ13Ä≤cE Å Å
IT> ÑÄÄâÄÄÄÄÖ ÑÄÄÄÄÄÄáÏÂ1oÄÄÉ Å ÜÄÄÄá Å
IT> /WR ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄá Å Å ÅD0 ÄÄ4ÄáAD0Å Å
IT> ÑÄÄÄÖ Å ÅD1 ÄÄ5ÄáAD1Å Å
IT> ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÖ ÅD2 ÄÄ6ÄáAD2Å Å
IT> Å ÇÄÄàÄÄÄÄÉ ÅD3 ÄÄ7ÄáAD3Å Å
IT> Ñ9ÄáC ÅTT Å 1533ÙÌ8 ÅD4 ÄÄ8ÄáAD4Å Å
IT> RESET Ä1Ä≤R Å Å ÅD5 ÄÄ9ÄáAD5Å Å
IT> ÜÄÄá Å ÅD6 Ä10ÄáAD6Å Å
IT> D1 Ä4ÄáD0Å Q0ÜÄ2ÄÄ> ÅD7 Ä11ÄáAD7Å Å
IT> Å Å /Q0oÄ3ÄÄ> Å ÜÄÄÄá Å
IT> D7 Ä5ÄáD1Å Q1ÜÄ7 Å Ç18ÄárESÅ Å
IT> Å Å /Q1oÄ6ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÖ Ü20ÄáCKFÅ Å
IT> D4 Ä12áD2Å Q2ÜÄ10 Ü22ÄáPS Å /IRQØÄ19
IT> Å Å /Q2oÄ11 Å Å ÜÄÄÄÄÄÄá
IT> Ä13áD3Å Q3ÜÄ15 ç Å Å SQWÜÄ23
IT> Å Å /Q3oÄ14 Å10KÅ Å CKOUTÜÄ21
IT> ÑÄÄâÄÄÄÄÖ Å Å ÜÄÄÄÄÄÄá
IT> +5V ÄÄÄÄâ24ÄáVddÅ VssÜÄ12É
IT> ÑÄÄÄâÄÄÄÄÄÄÖ Å
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EP> This scheme works for me. Maybe because it is on the same circuit as the
EP> modem and is connected after the buffer?
Nemo was right once again...
If you can’t connect this damn chip without any circuits, don’t
do it at all.
And don’t trust the information received from echoes, zx-newspapers and check it.
KF>> 18 pin of the small circuit is connected to RESET, 13 to GND.
KF>> 1533TM8 is torn off and thrown out. 1 leg is MANDATORY
KF>> connected
KF>> to VCC or GND (I don’t remember exactly, if it doesn’t work it needs to
KF> 18 pin of the small circuit is connected to RESET, 13 to GND.
KF> 1533TM8 is torn off and thrown out. 1 leg MUST
KF> be connected
KF> to VCC or GND (I don’t remember exactly, if it doesn’t work you need
^^^ what kind of signal is this? +5V?
KF> change).
KF> Designed for connecting bourgeois small circuits like
KF> DS1227(A).
KF> For connecting more than others with an external battery you need
KF> to look at the
KF> documentation. 512VI1 requires all sorts of transistors, so it’s better not to mess with
KF> with it.
On Saturday January 12 2002 Kirill Frolov wrote to All:
KF> And the above diagram is absolute heresy and nonsense.
Only I have collected it and it works. The differences from Gluck's for VI1 are
insignificant.
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On Sunday January 13 2002 Ivan Mak wrote to Igor Turashev:
IM> The 18th must be connected to /RESET of the computer.
Why is this?
IM> _1st 100% to the ground, otherwise glitch-glut...._
Yeah, it’s hanging in the air, and strangely enough, nothing glu... They are Dalas too
different e...
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EP>> mule with a modem and connected after the buffer?
KF> Nemo was right again...
KF> If you can’t connect this damn chip without any
KF> circuits, don’t do it at all.
KF> And don’t trust the information received from echoes, zx-newspapers and
KF> check.
Does this chip need to generate IORGE and if so, by what signal (A3?)?
There are free elements on LP8.
IT> Yeah, it’s hanging in the air, and oddly enough, I don’t glitch at all... Dalas
IT> they are also different e...
This is the choice of bus type, rtfm. You put your hand near the computer and it starts to glitch...
IT> Only now I have collected it and it works. The differences from Gluck's for VI1
IT> are insignificant.
If it works right away, then turn it off and look for errors.
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16 Jan 02 12:55, Evgeny Poddubny wrote to all:
EP> In general, nothing works out. :(
EP> I already connected before and after the modem buffer, formed
EP> IORGE based on the A3 signal, took IORQ from both the slot and the processor.
EP> At the moment I have no more ideas.
Now explain in detail what exactly, to what exactly and how
you tried to connect?
Nothing works at all. :(
I already connected before and after the modem buffer, formed
IORGE based on the A3 signal, took IORQ both from the slot and from the processor.
At the moment I have no more ideas.
PS. Realcommander displays 00:00, New Dosx of the Wild starts
counting from January 1, 00, the program Time0_20.B says CMOS not
found.
Saturday January 02 1999 12:55, Evgeny Poddubny wrote to all:
EP> PS. The realcommander displays 00:00, the New Dosx of the Wild begins
EP> to count from January 1, 00, the program Time0_20.B says CMOS not
EP> found.
What does the realcommander say? I had a similar problem until I wrote down the required number in some cell of the Kmosin. Like in #AA,11 or vice versa...
Sincerely, Oleg. [ZX]
KF>> will start to glitch...
IT> Nah, I’m telling you, they’re different, my ODIN works like that.
Just for the sprinters, ODIN was glitching wildly
IT> and fm is just not good for me...
www.google.com -> dallas semicon.. -> ds1287 pdf
KF> Now explain in detail what exactly, what exactly
KF> and how did you try to connect?
I connected the subject (from the inscriptions on it - Dallas, DS12887A, realtime, 9548A2 071183)
to KAY-1024, according to the diagram given here and put 1 to zero, and 18 to reset.
EP> I connected the subject (from the inscriptions on it - Dallas, DS12887A, realtime, 9548A2
EP> 071183) to KAY-1024, according to the diagram given here and put 1 to zero, and 18
EP> to reset.
Dallas has a pull-down resistor on 1 leg... It only made sense to connect
to the power supply.
On Wednesday January 16 2002 Oleg Groskow wrote to Evgeny Poddubny:
OG> What does the commander say? I had a similar bug until I wrote down the required number in some cell of the kmosine. It seems like in #AA, 11 or
OG> on the contrary...
Well, you've lost your mind - out of 30 cells find #aa :) In 11th #aa is written then it is
determined by all sorts of lazy people, but it's too late for that.
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KF> www.google.com -> dallas semicon.. -> ds1287 pdf
Thanks, good luck...
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