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On Wednesday September 18 2002 Andrey Lysenko wrote to Alexander Araktcheew:

YP>>>>>> Hrip is so sophisticated that not a single offtopic can support it
YP>>>>>> can ;)
AL>>>>> So, not really - I’m afraid that zip is unlikely to work on spec
AL>>>>> work as fast as wheeze (if at all possible), it's
AL>>>>> it's easier to do wheeze on an offtopic IMHO.

KF>>>> There are many offtopics, but there is only one Spectrum.

AL>>> But it's certainly easier to do anhwhee on the same c - on all
AL>>> offtopics - everything will be ok.

AA>> And you will always carry it with you on a separate floppy disk, otherwise
AA>> what if that friend doesn’t have it? Damn, we've already given a lot of these arguments
AA>>, but we're still going round and round again.

AL> Yes, you can give at least a million stupid arguments - so you do
AL> zip on the spec and you won't need the arguments. And as I already said, everyone

So a lot of people here have already said that it is not possible or is not needed
Or are they still mistaken? :).details...

Judging by your hitline, you will install Windows at least now :)

Not all the spektrumists you know are spektrumists themselves or sympathizers,
why should they _all_ keep unhrip?
Otherwise, remember what I wrote above about the floppy disk.

AA>> Tofarischi! Well, you don’t have to be so stubborn.
AA>> Well, let it be zip on Speck, it won’t hurt you. Why are you
AA>> so concerned about spektrumists, so that the few remaining
AA>> don’t overstrain themselves making this zip? %)

AL> We are not stubborn,

If a bunch of people ask 95% of the same questions that people
answered, there is no other way to call it

AL> but sane, because in order to write a zip on spec

A whole horde of “sane” people are always a brake on the development of something
Illustrative examples of what is absolutely impossible on the Spectrum, because this is the same a bunch
already decided this at different times:
From software: zip, unrar, jpg, FTN, RTS, Doom
From hardware: meter and more memory, graph modes, screw, hays

In the end, let's throw it all away, leave the 48k machine with a tape recorder and
manikminer on an MK-60 cassette, because everything else is on the PC!

AL> you just have to be a fan. I will erect a monument to the one who writes zip on
AL> spec. You are so stubborn - how can you support
AL> manufacturers!?

I support manufacturers in my city becauseI repair their computers and
pick up “unnecessary” hardware

Bye, Andrey!
Arc/exRLDG

KF>> Let’s say there is already unwheezing. It is impossible to distribute it to all the pisishniks
KF>>. And I wouldn’t say that about all the off-topics...

AL> Where is it? When it is available, then everyone will have it within
AL> the shortest possible time and on all offtopics (if there are sources
AL> of course).

Give me the ax, urgently! :)

Well, install it on at least 50% of all offtopics, even in your city.

When you do it, you will report the results. That's it...

Bye, Andrey!

You know, there is a proprietary version of ZXZIP/ZXUNZIP for 48K computers. Let
half of the program be put into an overlay and when packaged it is copied to disk - it
doesn’t matter. She simply IS. It may be slow, but you can work
and
with the ZXZIP archive at 48K. My Scorp has 256 KB of memory and 130 MB of storage space. There is one more screw for
120 MB. Enough for the subject?

WBR, Jason.

/*e-mail: jason2000(scary dog)yandex.ru ICQ: 62235830*/

/np:/ *silence*

AA> Give me the axe, urgently! :)

AA> Well, install it on at least 50% of all offtopics, even in your city.

AA> Once you do it, you will report the results. That's it...

Not everything yet, unfortunately.
Is there a problem with your logic?
Zip is needed to compress software made on spec, which will be opened by
those people who know about spec.
So you install it on all offtopics - I just need to rewrite the anhrip for two
three people who use spec software (on _ANY_ offtopic).

Bye...

WBR, fyrex.

AA> A whole horde of “sane” people are always an obstacle to the development of
AA> anything
AA> Clear examples of what is absolutely not possible on the Spectrum, because this very
AA> bunch has already decided so at different times:
AA> From software: zip, unrar, jpg, FTN, RTS, Doom
AA> From hardware: meter and more memory, graph modes, screw, hays

This is all great, but there is a time limit, you know. Now we need to
open the archives, and not when the zip is done (with unrealistic requirements)

AA> In the end, let's throw everything away, leave the 48k machine with a tape recorder and
AA> a manikminer on an MK-60 cassette, because everything else is on the PC!

Let's not start demagoguery - there are no more thoughts, so why mess up the paper
!