Terminal for ISDOS?

Is there a subject in the world that works with a modem connected to SMUC?

All the best, All!
With best wishes *** Sergey ***

05 May 02 23:16, Sergey Cherbynin wrote to All:

SC> Is there a subject in the world that works with a modem connected to SMUC?

Dickie

05 May 02 23:16, Sergey Cherbynin -> All:

SC> Is there a subject in the world that works with a modem connected to SMUC?

Dickie Mailer will help you

Nikolaj

SC> Greetings, All!

SC> Is there a subject in the world that works with a modem connected to SMUC?

as far as I remember, there was a terminal in the IS and it worked with mopeds through firewood
so IMHO it should be, and if there is no firewood you can write it :)

C uv.Maxony latyshm(at)mail.ru

NA> Dickie Mailer will help you

NA> Nikolaj

NA> -+- Fregate 1.52/W32
and one less real-life player...

JTN/4D

NA>> -+- Fregate 1.52/W32

VK> and one more real-life person has become less...

Well, it has begun... If I moved the modem from one computer to another, this does not mean
that I have become an emulator - I don’t read mail under an emulator! I am a true realist and there is no getting away from it :)

Nikolaj.

Well, it begins... If I moved the modem from one computer to another, this does not mean
that I have become an emulator - I don’t read mail under an emulator! I'm a true realist and there's no getting around it :)

08 May 02 07:56, Nikolaj Amosov wrote to Vassili Klimov:

NA> Well, it has begun... If I moved the modem from one computer to another, this does not
NA> mean that I became an emulator

Wot i q odnavdy moved the modem. In spec since those times, a normal modem
(vikommka doesn’t count)
has never appeared. And then the spec broke and for a year now I haven’t been able to get it back into working order...

KF> Wot i q odnavdy reinstalled the modem. In the spec since those times, a normal
KF> modem (vikommka does not count)
KF> never appeared. And then the spec broke and for a year now I haven’t been able to get
KF> into working condition...

Everything works for me and turns on every day. And I had to take out the modem,
since SMUC+GS+control mice and keyboards at the same time just don’t fit into Scorpio.

Nikolaj

NA> Dickie Mailer will help you
Where can I get it?
2All: can someone throw me some soap in img/zip, of course better configured and with
helps?

All the best, Nikolaj!

SC>> Is there a subject in the world that works with a modem connected to SMUC?

KF> Dickie

KF> Wot i q odnavdy reinstalled the modem. In the spec since those times, a normal modem
KF> (vikommka does not count)
KF> has never appeared. And then the spec broke and for a year now I haven’t been able to get
KF> into working condition...
why aren’t you fixing it? conclusion: it means you DO NOT NEED him!

JTN/4D

KF>> Wot i q odnavdy reinstalled the modem. In the spec since those times, a normal
KF>> modem (vikommka does not count)
KF>> never appeared. And then I broke the spec and for a year now I haven’t been able to get
KF>> into working condition...

NA> take it out, because at the same time SMUC+GS+counter mice and keyboards don't
NA> get into Scorp.
VK> you mean? They don’t fit into the case or onto the bus?

There aren’t enough connectors. There are 2 of them in a scorpion.

Tschau, Siril.

KF>> Dickie
SC> It is clear that there are no other terminals under SMUC?

KF>>> Wot i q odnavdy reinstalled the modem. In the spec since those times, a normal
KF>>> modem (vikommka does not count)
KF>>> never appeared. And then I broke the spec and for a year now I haven’t been able to get
KF>>> into working condition...

KF>> Dickie

SC> Of course, other terminals under SMUC means there is no?

Sunday May 02 1999 08:49, Nikolaj Amosov wrote to Vassili Klimov:

NA> In the tire of course. It will not be possible to put up a Christmas tree while the modem is sticking out in the SMUK,
NA> since in this case the modem turns perpendicular to the board and
NA> rests against it.
So you need to put the SMUK on the cable... ;)

Best regards, Oleg. [ZX]

zy: what is a Christmas tree;)?

JTN/4D

VK> that’s the same thing, but will the percentage handle it? especially with the wires
VK> hanging...
So you install ours. Suvetka. However, he is very strong. It was standing next to me, so I just didn’t hold it. He was all hung up like a Christmas tree with toys.

Sincerely, Oleg. [ZX]

NA> Into the bus, of course. It will not be possible to put up a Christmas tree while the modem is sticking out in the SMUC,
NA> since in this case the modem turns perpendicular to the board and
NA> rests against it.

Riddle: how to plug a SMUC, expander and modem into the scorpion?

Solution: if the modem rests against the motherboard, then you need to solder 2
connectors into the motherboard,
Moreover, the outermost one (which is closer to the edge) is sealed high, and the one that is furthest
from the edge is sealed lower. Then the SMUC is plugged into the outermost connector, and a modem is plugged into it, and an expander is plugged into
another modem, and a GS, XTR and a keyboard controller are plugged into it.

KF>>> Dickie
SC>> Is it clear that there are no other terminals for SMUC?

VK> that’s the same thing, but will the percentage handle it? especially with
VK> wires hanging...

it will pull if everything else is cut through the buffer. Although purely theoretically
it should burn out or hang after all 1 TTL input.

C uv.Maxony latyshm(at)mail.ru

OG>>> So you need to put the smuk on the train... ;)
VK>> that’s the same thing, but will the percentage hold up? especially with wires
VK>> hanging...

In general, I have it done in an ugly way: disc-gnawers at the bottom, the board
at the top (metal case), so there is nothing to put
there on the bottom, only if you solder on the wires and put the device on the
board: (((

... You won’t believe it, but the gap is broken:((

SC>>>> Is there a subject in the world that works with a modem connected to SMUC?

KF>>> Dickie

Once on Thursday, April 10, 2002 at 13:28:26 Oleg Groskow and Nikolaj Amosov
discussed Terminal under ISDOS?.
and I decided to comment on this event.

NA>> In the bus, of course. It will not be possible to put up a Christmas tree while the modem is sticking out in the SMUK
NA>> since in this case the modem turns perpendicular to the board and
NA>> rests against it.

OG>> I couldn’t hold on to anything. It was all hung up like a Christmas tree with toys.
VK> I have a goldstar, with a radiator;) it’s true that there aren’t that many peripherals -
VK> cartoon from PC only
A moped is hanging on it?
No matter how many descriptions I’ve read, I still don’t understand how this thing works.
Correct me if I’m wrong right:
According to the standard(?) Kondratiev scheme, a multi-channel is connected, and a modem
(external?) is connected to it. Ordinary Melon works with this symbiosis according to the “Kondratieff” selection. So or not?

VK> PS: what is a Christmas tree;)?
Ahh...! ;)
It depends on what... ;)

Sincerely, Oleg. [ZX]

VK> there is no buffer on the Scorpov expander on the SD

on the Pentagon there was never a smell of it, and everything worked ok :)

C uv.Maxony latyshm(at)mail.ru

KF> Nonsense. You need to install Z80H.
So why are you installing it? Does it have a greater load capacity on the tire? It seems only the speed is higher. And even if it’s more (I confess, I haven’t read the document on it), it’s not so easy to find such a percentage. Don't break the shogus because of this. And if our ordinary processor copes with the required task, why bother with replacing it with H?

Sincerely, Oleg. [ZX]

OG> So what, are you going to put it on? Does it have a greater load capacity on the
OG> bus? It seems like only the speed is higher.

I don’t know about the load, but on a loaded bus it works better.

OG> And even if it’s more (I confess, I haven’t read the document on it), it’s not like that
OG> It’s easy to find such a percentage.

It’s simply impossible now. :-(

OG> Don’t break the sega because of this. And if our regular processor
OG> copes with the required task, why bother with
OG> replacing it with H?

“Regular” is an analogue of the Z80A type T34VM1? It works worse at high (7Mhz)
frequencies.

10 May 02 13:32, Vassili Klimov wrote to Oleg Groskow:

VK> PS: what is a Christmas tree;)?

Such a board is for a scorpio. It has 3 slots for installing other devices,
itself
is stuck into a slot on the scorion. As a result, up to 4
different devices can be inserted into the scorpion.

12 May 02 00:02, Oleg Groskow wrote to Vassili Klimov:

OG> No matter how many descriptions I read, I still can’t understand how this thing
OG> works. Correct me if I'm wrong: According to the standard(?) Kondratieff
OG> scheme, a multi-channel is connected, and a modem (external?) is connected to it. Ordinary Melon
OG> works with this symbiosis according to the “Kondratieff” selection. Yes or no?

Yes.

NA>>> Everything works for me and turns on every day. And the modem had to
NA>>> be taken out, since at the same time SMUC+GS+counter mice and keyboards just don't
NA>>> fit into Scorp.
VK>>> you mean? don't fit into the body or onto the tire?

KF> Riddle: how to plug an SMUC, expander and modem into a scorpion?

KF> Solution: if the modem rests on the motherboard, then you need to solder 2 connectors into the
KF> motherboard,
KF> with the outermost one (which is closer to the edge) being soldered high, and the one
KF> further from the edge
KF> sealed below. Then the SMUC is plugged into the outermost connector, and the
KF> modem is plugged into it, and the expander is into the other connector
KF>, and into it are the GS, XTR and the keyboard controller.

But this is a really worthwhile thing...

Nikolaj

NA>>>>> Into the bus, of course. It will not be possible to put up a Christmas tree while the modem is sticking out in the SMUK,
NA>>>>> since in this case the modem turns perpendicular to the board and
NA>>>>> rests against it.
OG>>>> So you need to put the SMUK on the cable... ;)
VK>>> that’s the same thing, but will it hold the percentage? especially with the wires
VK>>> hanging...
ML>> will pull if everything else is cut through the buffer. Although purely theoretically
ML>> should burn out or hang because there is 1 TTL input.

OG> So what are you going to do with it? Does it have a greater load capacity on the
OG> bus? It seems only the speed is higher. And even if it is more (I confess,

well, if 1 is more than 1 then there is more:)

C uv.Maxony latyshm(at)mail.ru

KF> Nonsense. You need to install Z80H.

So what?? except for the inoperability of the device tailored for undocumented
commands, in this case it will not give. on H also 1 tl.

C uv.Maxony latyshm(at)mail.ru

KF> “Normal” is an analogue of the Z80A type T34VM1?
It is the same.

KF> It works worse at high (7Mhz) frequencies.
It is clear that it is worse ;) It was not developed for them. ;)
Our craftsmen can even make a racehorse out of an elephant ;)

Sincerely, Oleg. [ZX]

ML> so what?? except for the inoperability of the
ML> undocumented commands,

Have you checked? No? Then you can be silent.
I had a Z80H standing and working with all the commands.
The new Z840010PEC should not be confused with the old Z80H (denoted approximately as
Z840008...)

ML> in this case it will not give. On H too 1 ttl.

However, it does. And not TTL there. And it probably works because the address on the bus
appears
somewhat faster than in the Z80B.

OG> He's the one.

The logo on him is interesting. Otherwise, nothing special.

NA> This is some kind of setup just...

Is he needed there?

KF> However, it does. And not TTL there. And it probably works because the address is on

Not ttl??? Really???? Where is it????

well, what works, few things work and this does not mean that it was assembled according to
the rules, such work is UNSTABLE, that is, if it works for you, it does not mean that it will work for others without exception (I’m not talking about commands, I’m talking about
load capacity).

C uv.Maxony latyshm(at)mail.ru

JTN/4D

ML> at the Pentagon there was never a smell of it, and everything worked ok :)

at the Pentagon there was never a tire, much less any expander

JTN/4D

JTN/4D

VK> there were never any tires on the Pentagon, much less any expander

when did they start installing the z80 in the Pentagon which does not have a single tire?????

C uv.Maxony latyshm(at)mail.ru

KF>> address on
ML> Not tttl??? Really????

Absolutely exactly.

ML> Where is it????

In the zetnik.

ML> well, what works, few things work and this does not mean that it was assembled
ML> according to the rules, such work is UNSTABLE, that is, if it works for you, then
ML> it does not mean that it will work for others without exceptions (I’m not
ML> about commands I'm talking about the load capacity).

Well, yes, it's unstable... But in the Z80A it doesn't work at all and shouldn't even - it's
at 4Mhz,
and they're trying to drive it to 7, they've hung it with an immeasurable load and they're surprised that it doesn't
work.

VK>>>> there is no buffer on the Scorpov SD expander
NA>>> This is some kind of setup just...
KF>> Is it needed there?

KF> In the network.

So I’m not talking about the percentage, but about the load capacity :)

KF> Well, yes, it’s unstable... But it doesn’t work at all in the Z80A and shouldn’t even
KF> - it’s at 4Mhz,
KF> and they’re trying to drive it to 7, with an immeasurable load they are hung up and surprised
KF> that it doesn’t work.

that’s exactly what I meant from the very beginning.

C uv.Maxony latyshm(at)mail.ru

SC>> modem,
SC>> and everything works!
VK> oh! How do you manage to stick peripherals into empty slots? (2, as far as I
VK> understood, this is 286...)
2 is 286, I just plug it in - I do it myself :), otherwise you can move it to the very edge
and then the extra contacts will not be used, and also on the periphery
swap a couple of contacts with wires, the power supply there is a little different.

All the best, Vassili!

JTN/4D

SC>> move and then the extra contacts will not be used, and also on the
SC>> periphery, swap a couple of contacts with wiring, the power supply there is a little
SC>> different.