A program with which you can surf the Internet and surf websites?!?

03 Sep 99 08:29, CoModerator of REAL SPECCY wrote to Dmitry Sharikov:

CS> Subject: A program with which you can go online and surf sites
CS>?!?

On the SPECTRUM ??? =8-O How can I look at the pictures? :-/

Kirill Frolov. [ZX]

KF> On SPECTRUM ??? =8-O How can I look at the pictures? :-/

Why pictures? text only ;)

[ZX] [AMiGA] WBR, Denis Ognewsky

DO> Why pictures? text only ;)

Are you stupid? what is the text on porn sites?! :) Should I just read the banners? ;)

∙∙∙ hex;music.fanatic [metallica] [madonna] [depeche mode]
... tell mister man with impossible plans to just leave me alone.. (c) es

Well, there is Lynx for Linux on the offtopic - completely text-based, I personally
used it :). You can completely do without pictures if
ALT="..." is specified in the HTML. If someone on the ZX took on this and did this, they would definitely erect a monument during their lifetime :)))

WBR, Sergei Dubarev

VH> Are you a fool? what is the text on porn sites?! :) Is it possible to read the banners
VH>? ;)

Don't swear. You have to go to the local BBS for porn.
And if you really want it, download it, and then watch it in JPEG by RRA.

SD> Well, there is Lynx for Linux on the offtopic - completely text-based,
SD> I personally used :). You can completely do without pictures if ALT="..." is specified in the
SD> HTML. If someone on the ZX took up and did this,
SD> they would definitely erect a monument during their lifetime :)))

In addition to the WWW browser, it is necessary to write support for TCP/IP, and then PPP. And without
this trinity nothing will work out. And the Speckie will not withstand such a load, i.e.
receiving/transmitting via a high-speed modem, parsing the PPP protocol, extracting TCP/IP packets from PPP, parsing TCP/IP packets (catching a response from WWW sites), and finally
parsing and displaying HTML pages.
As I already wrote here you can take a terminal and go to the *NIX machine and on it
start Lynx, mail, ...
You can do it a little differently:
Write a browser on Specki, develop your own protocol (like addresses from us, and pages to
us)
On a machine connected to INet, make support for this protocol. But it’s unlikely that anyone will do this.

Forgot (at the beginning) that you also need to process the name server, because when you click on some link, the machine first contacts the DNS server, and it responds with the
IP address of this site.

That's all. /Sergey/ []
With a large wagon of registers and vices.
(Pickup from the SVERDLOVSK-SORTING wagon#659839002)

DO> Don't swear. You have to go to the local BBS for porn.

rulez, you're lucky, we don't have such bbs anymore..

DO> And if you really need it, download it, and then watch it as a program JPEG by RRA.

well, excuse me, it won't turn out to be porn, but some kind of pornography..

but the question is this.. what, someone did it tcp\ip on spec? :) or in the subject
a question like which SCL emulator understands? ;)

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... let me see you stripped down to the bone.. (c) dm

DO>>> JPEG by RRA.
VH>> well, excuse me, this won’t turn out to be porn, but pornography
VH>> some kind of ..

DO> Nothing. If you want, you will see. ;)

you just have to want to ;)

VH>> but the question is this.. did someone actually make tcp\ip on the spec? :) or
VH>> in the subject

DO> IMHO this is not realistic on this configuration. Better listen to the thoughts
DO> of an intelligent person. That’s why he already wrote here about this. His name is Sergey
DO> Kovinov.

smart, you say? well, I’ll listen, so be it.. ;) but I don’t have any archives,
I haven’t been here particularly long.. well, of course you can’t build a proxy or a web server at 128k, but telnet would probably be possible.. what else is needed for happiness? ;)
and there will be bloatware at its finest ;)

VH>> question like which SCL emulator understands? ;)

DO> I don’t know what yours is, but ours is CBSpeccy.

great. and we only have trd.

DO> Antiofftopic: Are you giving it to the SCL converter for Speccy?! ;)))

Do I now have to remember how to use that lame asm80? ;) and give
me a thread so that I can at least rip off the appearance from it, then maybe
something will work out ;)

DO> =================================================================
DO> *** Area: ZX.SPECTRUM
DO> *** From: Victor Nerad'ko (2:4600/96.39)
...
DO> If you don't have SN or AMD, then load STS andpull out the files
DO> with your hands ;) I just looked, the format is something like this:
...

are you going to tell me the format of scl.. ;) you better give me a clearer, what
it’s called there..

∙∙∙ hex;music.fanatic [metallica] [madonna] [depeche mode]
... so here is mine confession: it's an obsession.. (c) dm

24 Sep 1999 you wrote here:

...
SK> As I already wrote here, you can take a terminal and go to the *NIX machine and on
SK> run Lynx, mail, ...

To do this, you need to be very well versed in *NIX, the Internet... A simple user
needs a simple and convenient program.

All the best.
Sincerely, Roman.

SK> In addition to the WWW browser, it is necessary to write support for TCP/IP, and then PPP. A
SK> without this trinity nothing will work out. And the Speckie will not withstand such a load,
SK> i.e. receiving/transmitting via high-speed modem, parsing the PPP protocol, extracting
SK> from PPP TCP/IP packets, parsing TCP/IP packets (catching a response from WWW
SK> sites), and finally parsing and displaying HTML pages.
we take a new eZ80 processor with a TCP/IP stack and working in 16 times faster than usual
Z80... and that's it :)))

VH> should I now remember how to use that lame asm80? ;). (different). Godzilla has come to you...

Roman Milukov once wrote to Sergey Kovinov, and I decided to drop a couple
lines:

SK>> As I already wrote here, you can take a terminal and go to the *NIX
SK>> machine and run Lynx, mail, ...
RM> To do this, you need to be very familiar with *NIX, internet... A simple
RM> user needs a simple and convenient program.

Yes... You can also offer an option:
Everything is done almost as I wrote, but automatically and semi-offline.
That is. The user writes a request, like, I want to look at the site "www..." the program writes down
this. And when dialing to Unix, a letter is generated to the servers that throw sites into soap, then a response comes, soap is taken from Unix, unpacked and
viewed on the ZX. If you need another site, or another page of the site, then
everything is new.

No... Insanity... It's easier to learn how to work on Unix. Because there is nothing complicated,
launched the program and look, and you don’t need to write anything, there is a terminal.

VH>> someone give me a trick so that I can at least rip off the appearance from
VH>> it, then maybe something will work out ;)

DO> Gone with soap. ... I have 3 pieces (different). Godzilla came to you...

[pfffssssshhhhh.....] thank you, good man, but why did you send me in the morning
_thirty_five_ copies of 5 sections each and in the evening _seven_ more? there
are there 86 more of them?.. and bot requests.. should I send you everything in such quantities too??

okay, let’s see what we can do and send a tweet to the robot at you ;) in the meantime
I’ll go write a converter..

RM> SK> As I already wrote here, you can take a terminal and go to the *NIX machine and on
RM> SK> already run Lynx, mail, ...
RM> To do this, you need to be very familiar with *NIX, internet... A simple user
RM> needs a simple and convenient program.
Well, Unix, that is, and a simple system.
Text mode, there are no all those different bells and whistles, well, everything is from the command line.
Well, there are also graphics, then there is
netscape, but I don’t use it.
I’m just a simple user, a blind person, and that’s what I work with the provider only works on a
Unix machine,
well, everything works out for me.
You just need to memorize a couple of those commands and that’s it.
But the problem was to pick up a file in the local machine,
that is, from the local area, from the provider to myself, I had it, but then I increased the
timeout, and it seemed like
everything was fine.
So it’s not there in Unix it’s so complicated.
Well, I just think that there won’t be any problems with keys like alto,
control, and the like,
well, with the screen, I don’t know how it will be.
I work with speech synthesis everywhere, so I never pay attention to the screenI say so.
With that I say goodbye.
With respect, Andrey.

SK> nothing will work out for this trio. And the Specky will not withstand such a load, i.e.
SK> reception/transmission via high-speed modem, disassembly of the PPP protocol, pulling out of PPP
There is no disassembly.
since there is no ppp.
Everything is processed by the provider's machine, but it only sends you the data via the
terminal.
SK> TCP/IP packets, Parsing TCP/IP packets (catching a response from WWW

Again, the response from www is caught by the provider's machine.

SK> As I already wrote here, you can take a terminal and go to the *NIX machine and on it
SK> already run Lynx, mail, ...
Well, I run pine, since there were problems with mail there, I don’t remember what.
Well, in pine and news, that is, you can watch conferences.
Those conferences that are on the provider’s news server.

SK> You can do it a little differently:
SK> Write browser to speckie,develop your own protocol (such as addresses from us, and
SK> pages to us)
SK> On a machine connected to INet, make support for this protocol. But to do
I don’t think that the provider will support any left-handed protocols.
Most likely he will send with that.

SK> Threat, I forgot (at the beginning) that you also need to process the name server, because when you poke in
You have to enter dns.
But that is not necessary.
Everything is processed by the local machine.
That is, the provider's machine.

SK> some link, the machine first contacts the DNS server, and it answers what
SK> IP address this site has.
Well, if you work in lynx, otherwise a text browser, then everything is simple there.
You just click on that link, and then it starts downloading.

With respect, Andrey.

VH> [pfffsssshhhhh.....] thank you, good man, but why do I need you
VH> in the morning
VH> _thirty_five_ copies sent 5 sections each and in the evening _seven more_?
VH> there are them there

=8-( ) How so?! Yes, even if I wanted to, I couldn’t. I have 2400 !!!

VH> 86 more pieces coming?.. and bot requests.. should I send you everything in such quantities too
VH>??

By the way, you sent FONTEDIT.RAR 2 times, and without the last section.
Are you taking revenge on me? If so, then know that I didn’t send you that much mail.

VH> okay, let’s see what we can do and tweet the robot at you ;) and
VH> for now I’ll go pee the converter..

I’ll also go and pee the converter...

30 Sep 1999 you wrote here:

VH>> I haven’t been here particularly long.. well, of course you can’t build a proxy or a web server at 128k
VH>>, but telnet would probably be possible.. what else is needed for
VH>> happiness? ;)

06 Oct 99 11:04, Roman Milukov wrote to Denis Ognewsky:

RM> In some places they give you e-mail to use for free...
RM> And it’s not that expensive if there is Internet in the city, and FIDO only
RM> long-distance.

And where is the program itself? ?

Kirill Frolov. [ZX]