Please start fixing Lara!!!

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From Felix Knajzev To All 29 August 2000

Greetings, Oleg!

Subject!

- some extra/missing zero (#00) at the end of the pkt weekend.
- problems with tossing buggy pkts (post-disk looping).

Best regards, Felix.

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From Viktor Kuzmin To All 30 August 2000

Hi, Felix.

Tue Aug 29 2000 23:44, Felix Knajzev wrote to Oleg Golenkoff:

FK> Subject!

FK> - some extra/missing zero (#00) at the end of the weekend pkt.
FK> - problems with tossing buggy pkts (post-disk looping).

Since when did Oleg Laru fix it?

Regards, KVA of E-mage ... / k...@cosmigo.com /

From Vladimir Klymus To All 30 August 2000

FK>> post-disk).

VK> Since when did Oleg Lara fix it?

Well, fix it...
Or maybe the source codes will be shared with the people?

WBR, Vladimir.

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From Oleg Golenkoff To All 31 August 2000

FK> - problems with tossing buggy pkts (post-disk looping).

I asked him to tell me in words where to fix something, but he explained what was wrong
it’s just because there is 0 memory there and you need to optimize the code :(

In short, darkness :( and I also had a speck after CC died :| in general, it’s a big deal...

FK> Sincerely, Felix.

PS: in general, these repairs are already starting to sit in my liver :( and crowds of
emulators screaming that no one needs anything from this....

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From Nicolas Davidov To All 31 August 2000

Selam Aleikum, Oleg!

Once Tue Aug 29, 2000, Felix Knajzev and Oleg Golenkoff were arguing on the topic:
Please start fixing Lara!!!, let's continue the flame...

FK> Subject!
I join.

FK> - some extra/missing zero (#00) at the end of the weekend pkt.
oh, how annoying this bug is... my favorite node has Regina....

FK> - problems with tossing buggy pkts (post-disk looping).
2FK: what is this? never met.

For this Au Revoire, CompoWellcome. aka: 2:5085/80.3
2:5085/26.51

From Oleg Golenkoff To All 31 August 2000

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From Alexander Shashkevich To All 31 August 2000

Met only once. One “smart” person once wrote a letter in which
there were more than 64 quotation marks “>” and the tosser began an endless cycle of dividing
this quotation space.

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From Alexander Shashkevich To All 31 August 2000

k> Since when did Oleg fix Lara?

And since when did you dump her? Your policy regarding Lara is generally incomprehensible...
You don’t do it yourself and you don’t give it to others. If he gave up on this matter, then why should the people
suffer? I somehow completed the larka to the navigation of cities and had something
to listen to.
Because of this, the normal larka (I fixed a glitch with printing cities in 512 points) I
didn’t give people away. Even though they asked. They said it was a necessary thing. If you don’t want to
finish it, then offer people some sorts (I’m the first in line anyway, I’m thinking of
writing
my own editor :). The larka is already wildly outdated. A lot of glitches and inconveniences. Well, it’s also
wildly slow (what is the printing procedure worth, clicking on each symbol
by banks)... Of course, I understand that this is your brainchild, but it’s better to decide - either it
will continue to live, or it will fade into oblivion if someone writes a better one.

From Sergey Selev To All 31 August 2000

And EMS source codes too.

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From Viktor Kuzmin To All 31 August 2000

VK> Well, fix it...
VK> Or maybe the source code will be shared with the people?

I won’t give it to everyone, but the option is possible.
I’ll give it to someone who won’t do anything bad with it :-)

And the bug with zero has already been fixed - you just need to get to the real Spectrum
to finish the last ones "touches"

From Viktor Kuzmin To All 31 August 2000

OG> Oh :) really, they couldn’t do without you... ever since you gave up on
OG> Spec and our project!

Firstly, I didn’t give up on my projects - I’m fixing my own bugs.
Secondly, I don’t think Doors is very promising (sorry).
Thirdly, you have a kernel that works - it has memory distribution and graphical interface. It's easy to add disk drivers. In principle,
no glitches seemed to be found there (as far as I understand) - therefore, I’m not particularly
worried.

From Moderator of REAL.SPECCY To All 1 September 2000

OG> Ой :) неутт бебя не бобшлссннннни… назад нарр как ты збил
OG> ннпии ннлллл!

нани...

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From Kirill Frolov To All 2 September 2000

Click on RESET immediately, Alexander!

31 Aug 00 19:13, Alexander Shashkevich wrote to k...@cosmigo.com:

AS> Of course, I understand that this is your brainchild, but it’s better to decide - either she
AS> will continue to live, or she will fade into oblivion if someone will write
AS> the best.

No one will write anything anymore :-(

From Eugene Palenock To All 2 September 2000

Hello, Oleg!

31 Aug 00 13:57, Oleg Golenkoff -> Felix Knajzev:

OG> According to KVA, he fixed this glitch. And I even wanted to release
OG> version
OG> 5.0 but alas :( due to the lack of a machine with 512 kb at hand (and
OG> it can only be compiled with this configuration) everything was left in words... :|

http://z80.da.ru will help him... By the way, soon there will even be a 512*192 mode will be.

Sincerely, Evgeniy.

From Alexander Shashkevich To All 2 September 2000

k> I won’t give it to everyone, but the option is possible.
k> I’ll give it to someone who won’t do anything bad with it :-)

You’ll have to search for a long time. :)

k> And with the zero the bug has already been fixed - you just need to get to
k> the real Spectrum to complete the last “tricks”

With the zero it’s nonsense. Anyone who wanted to write a program that
simply reads a directory and increases the file length by 1. It would be better to fix the nonsense
when tossing: write a letter in one of the lines in which the number of characters
">" will be greater than the number of characters across the width of the screen (in my case it was for 64).
Try to get busy and you will just enjoy how the letter literally grows before your eyes (one p?ts likes to write such letters, but he really is a ptsshnik and he doesn’t care
because
the number of characters in a line, whatever one may say, is less than the width of his
screen)...

From Felix Knajzev To All 2 September 2000

FK>> post-disk).

By the way, the last glitch is very specific, because I have to stop tossing and manually remove the pkt with the buggy message. I
I think I sent you a “buggy message” more than once.

OG> I asked him to say in words where to fix something, but he
OG> explained that it’s not so, it’s just because there is 0 memory there and
OG> the code needs to be optimized :(

Uh-oh... How serious it is. Come on, guys, get fired up! :) Lara is a very
necessary piece of software _for_realists_, but there are a few glitches in it that need to be
fixed for complete rule!

OG> PS: in general, these
OG> repairs are already starting to sit in my liver :( and crowds of emulators screaming that no one
OG> needs anything from this....

But we are not emulators. ;)

From Felix Knajzev To All 2 September 2000

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FK>> - problems with tossing buggy pkts (looping
FK>> post-disk).
ND> 2FK: what is this? I've never met it.

Yesterday I threw a buggy pkt-shka here for KVA in Yuyuk. Try to suck it off and everything
will become clear.

From Felix Knajzev To All 2 September 2000

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FK>> - problems with tossing buggy pkts (looping
FK>> post-disk).

AS> Met only once. One “smart” person once
AS> wrote a letter in which
AS> there were more than 64 quotation marks “>” and the tosser began
AS> an endless cycle of dividing
AS> this quoted space.

Oops... I’ll have to check this. I thought it was something else.

From Felix Knajzev To All 2 September 2000

FK>>>> post-disk).

VK> And with zero the bug has already been fixed - you just need to get to
VK> the real Spectrum,
VK> to complete the last “tricks”

Buzz! Fix the bug with tossing and everything will be fine! :) And then you will
look for a kind and caring follower for Lara. :)

From Vladimir Klymus To All 5 September 2000

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From Felix Knajzev To All 6 September 2000

FK>> Yesterday I threw a buggy pkt-shka here for KVA in a jujuka.
FK>> Try
FK>> toss it and
FK>> everything will become clear.
ND> I felt sorry for my base, I didn’t bother tossing it :)

But it doesn’t nail down the base. It’s just that when tossing, the heads on the disk drive with post-files
begin to constantly move towards the center of the disk until they hit the limiter, and so
“until you turn blue.”
Open the door of the disk drive, press RESET (otherwise there is no
getting out of this loop) and everything is ok. - the database is complete ('safetoss' in 'setup.p').

From Valerij Kozhevnikoff To All 6 September 2000

Hello, Oleg!

04 Sep 00 10:29, Oleg Golenkoff -> Kirill Frolov:

KF>> No one will write anything anymore :-(

OG> For some reason I have the same feeling :(

And this feeling for both of you is wrong. =)
There are a lot of old farts and bad emulators here, everyone is groaning yes
sigh, it’s even disgusting ;)


WBR, Jason.

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From Kirill Frolov To All 8 September 2000

VK> And this feeling for both of you is wrong. =)

Which one is correct? Well, are you going to make Lara under iS-DOS?

VK> There are a lot of old farts and bad emulators here, everyone groans
VK> and sighs, it’s even disgusting ;)

VK> @PID: GEDW32 3.0.1
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, yes, you’re the one here real...


From Alexander Shashkevich To All 8 September 2000


*Hi-ho,* _/Kirill!/_

Seeing 04 Sep 00 11:21 a letter from you, I went and drank beer and sat down to cook
an answer for you. And it happened on 08 Sep 00 at 15:33:

AS>> With a zero this is nonsense. Anyone who wanted could write a program
AS>> that simply reads a directory and increases the file length by 1.
KF> What if there is no disk space? And if after the pkt file there is another file
KF>? This is easy only in iS-DOS.

Yes, it’s still possible. :)

AS>> It would be better to fix the nonsense when tossing: write a letter in one of the
AS>> lines in which the number of ">" characters will be greater than the number of
AS>> characters in the width of the screen (in my case it was for 64). Try
AS>> get bored and you'll just enjoy it
KF> I tried it now. Enjoyed it... You don't even need to be sad. My
KF> goldhead at first painted this line all the time in different colors, then
KF> a lot of letters Z appeared, and then squeaked SOS and fell out with some
KF> exception.
KF> %-) Cool!

And what is the larke like?

From Alexander Shashkevich To All 8 September 2000

AS>> You will search for a long time. :)
IT> Why so soon? That we are all crooked or
IT> maniacs? :) I agree to finish Lara 8)

Yeah, you should have finished unzip. :)

AS>> when tossing: write a letter in one of the lines of which
AS>> there will be a number of characters
">>>" greater than characters across the width of the screen (in my case it
">>>was for 64).
IT> There is such a thing... I tried it with 86 ">>>" and that's it...

And how inconvenient it is work...

From Nicolas Davidov To All 9 September 2000

Selam Aleikum, Felix!

Once upon a time, Wed 6 Sep 2000, Felix Knajzev and Nicolas Davidov were thinking on the topic:
Please start fixing Lara!!!

ND>> I felt sorry for my base, I didn’t bother it :)
FK> But it doesn’t nail down the base. It’s just that when tossing, the heads on the drive with
FK> post-files begin to constantly go to the center of the disk until they hit the
FK> limiter, and so on until you’re blue in the face.
and imagine if there was a mailer for a screw with such a glitch ;))))

FK> Open the disk drive door, press RESET (otherwise from this loop don't
FK> go out) and everything is ok. - the database is complete ('safetoss' in 'setup.p').
well, of course.

For this Au Revoire, CompoWellcome. aka: 2:5085/1.149
2:5085/26.51

From Felix Knajzev To All 11 September 2000


FK>> this
FK>> looping does not
FK>> exit) and everything is ok. - the database is complete ('safetoss' in 'setup.p').

From Dmitriy Nesmachny To All 11 September 2000

Not a guarantee: I also have safetoss in the setup, which didn’t stop Lara from killing yesterday
my base when it was overflowing... :-(


Respectfully, Dmitriy.


From Nicolas Davidov To All 15 September 2000

FK>>> Open the disk drive door, press RESET (otherwise you won’t get out of this loop
FK>>>) and everything is ok. - the database is complete ('safetoss' in 'setup.p').
DN> Not a guarantee: I also have safetoss in the setup, which didn’t stop Lara from killing
DN> yesterday my database when it was overflowing... :-(
didn’t you have the wrong address? :) it’s you speaking FK.