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Maybe someone has already connected an LCD monitor to the Spectrum?
Share your experience and send me a connection diagram.
How to connect a CRT monitor to the Spectrum that works with an IBM PC? I really don't
want to have two monitors in front of my eyes when I can get by with one and
free up space.

With best wishes, Vladimir Panteleevich.

12 Jun 04 20:32, Vladimir Chernikov -> All:

VC> Maybe someone has already connected an LCD
VC> monitor to the Spectrum? Share your experience and send me a connection diagram.

If it has a regular SVGA input, then apparently you should (as for a simple
monitor) look for a piece of hardware called a scandabler (such
were produced for the Amiga). True, it costs from $150, so this is not a popular solution.

VC> I really don’t want to have two monitors in front of my eyes when you can get by
VC> with one, and the space will be freed up.

The simplest and optimal solution is to buy a TV tuner in a PC ;)
They almost always have a low-frequency input...
I recommend buying FlyVideo3000FM - the best of cheap ($38),
download firewood and programs from http://auzol.narod.ru/

If you don’t want the PC to work while ZX is running - then
you should look at external computer TV tuners - some
of them can work autonomously.

Some more video devices come with low-frequency inputs (although they call it TV-In - this is a regular low-frequency input).

zy. don’t forget to put in a decoupling capacitor (type 25uF*50V).

Sincerely, Evgeniy.

... http://2065.nm.ru

On Saturday, June 12, 2004, Vladimir Chernikov and All discussed "LCD monitor for
Spectrum?". Let's continue the conversation.

VC> Maybe someone has already connected an LCD
VC> monitor to the Spectrum? Share your experience and send me a connection diagram.

You can connect an LCD car TV (via the low-frequency input).
It costs, however, about 3000 rubles.

That’s all for me. Bye, Vladimir.

VC>> get by with one, and the space will be freed up.

EP> The simplest and optimal solution is to buy a TV tuner on a PC ;)
EP> They almost always have an LF input...

Accepted, the solution is very good, I liked it. :-)

EP> I recommend buying FlyVideo3000FM - the best of the cheap ones ($38),
EP> download firewood and programs from http://auzol.narod.ru/

EP> If you don’t want the PC to work during the operating time of the ZX is then

Well, of course, why do it immediately on both the PC and the Speck, let the PC breathe while I
use it on the ZX.

EP> you should look at external computer TV tuners - some
EP> of them can work autonomously.

That is. Without a computer you can watch TV shows and work on Speck. Eureka! advise? I'm waiting.

VC> Accepted, the decision is very good, I liked it. :-)

VC> Well, of course, why not on the PC and on the Speck at once, let the PC breathe,
VC> while I use the ZX.

VC> That is. without a computer you can watch TV shows and work on Speck.
VC> Eureka!!! :-)))

VC> I wonder who else would advise? I'm waiting.

You can put a TV with a SCART input instead of the Spec monitor, and
connect the Spec to it. The space, however, will not be freed up, but it will be possible to watch TV (without a TV tuner). :) That's how it is for me.

Vega/ex-Style Group.

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EP> The simplest and best solution is to buy a TV tuner on your PC ;)
EP> They almost always have an LF input...
EP> I recommend buying FlyVideo3000FM - the best of the cheap ones ($38),
EP> download firewood and a program from EP> you should look at external computer TV tuners - some
they are not computer-based at all, but completely autonomous, i.e. they connect to the computer
only via d-sub (aver media tv box 3 ~100$)
EP> of which can work autonomously.
EP>
EP> Some video cameras also come with low-frequency inputs (although they call
EP> it TV-In - this is a regular low-frequency input).
all this is good, but it will only be black and white (good for an Amiga that has a
composite output), i.e. for color you will still have to make a pal coder...

pokedova Eugene
jtn\\4d

Well, what should I tell my cockroaches?
Waiting for a response, Sergey Popov
Email: POPOVS...@rambler.ru
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Created in Termaile from the Ter500 package.:)

SP> Try plugging in a TV tuner into the PC, and Speck take the signal from the TV output (with
SP> secam
SP> codec), I think it will work (I haven’t tried it myself), I don’t have a TV tuner.

I have an AsusV3400TV card with a video input - a C-64
or Acorn BBC model B is normally connected to it, well, there are video consoles... The problem is that These cards do not have an RGB input; Accordingly, the signal quality after cheap
encoding/decoding to/from PAL/NTSC and vice versa sharply deteriorates the picture.

Regards.

On Sat, 12 Jun 04 19:32:43 +0400, Vladimir Chernikov wrote:

VC> How to connect a CRT monitor with which an IBM PC works to Speck?

Double the horizontal scanning frequency... the vertical scanning can also be doubled.

VC> I really don’t want to have two monitors in front of my eyes when I can get by
VC> with one,
VC> and it will free up space.

A card with a video input and a PAL encoder for spec.

On Mon, 14 Jun 04 18:23:42 +0400, Andrey Romanenko wrote:

AR> I have an AsusV3400TV card with a video input - it connects to it normally
AR> C-64

And it has an SVHS input, where the color (V) and brightness (Y) are separate, is there?

AR> encoding/decoding to/from PAL/NTSC and vice versa sharply degrades the picture.

With separate encoding, color does not deteriorate much.

AR> picture.
KF>
KF> With separate encoding, color does not deteriorate much.
hmm, interesting idea, but are there such encoders?

Goodbye, write letters.

Bye!

Bye!

VK> hmm, interesting idea, but are there such encoders?

You can remake a regular one...

AR>> picture.
KF> With separate encoding, the color does not deteriorate much.

as a joke, it would be possible to take the screen directly from the ZX memory at each interruption and
lay it out via an SVGA card on a monitor like Sony E100P, then
there would be no quality problems with the iron spec.

Regards.

AR> for fun it would be straight from the memory of the ZX to take the screen into each
^^^^^^
AR> interruption and lay it out via an SVGA card on a monitor like Sony
^^^^^^^^^
AR> E100P then there would be no problems with the quality of the iron spec.

ha ha ha, multicolor is visible You don't know

Goodbye, write letters.

AR> for fun it would be right from the memory of the ZX to take out the screen at each
AR> interrupt and
AR> lay it out through an SVGA card on a monitor like Sony E100P then
AR> there would be
AR> there would be no quality problems with the iron spec.

You forgot to synchronize with the beam. It's not that simple. It all comes down to
synchronization - without it, half of the effects in the demos are not
visible.

KF>
KF> A regular one can be remade...
single-chip?

Goodbye, write letters.

VK> ha ha ha, apparently you don’t know the multicolor

I would have liked this spec even without the multicolor. If you wish, you can
multicolor, of course - but it’s more difficult.

Regards.

KF>>> With separate encoding, the color does not deteriorate much.
AR>> for fun, it would be right from the ZX memory to take the screen into each
AR>> interruption and
AR>> lay it out through an SVGA card on a monitor like Sony E100P then
AR>> there would be
AR>> there would be no problems with the quality of the iron sinter.

AR>
AR> I would have liked this spec even without multicolor. If you wish, you can also use
AR> multicolor, of course - but it’s more complicated.
my goodness, who’s been singing the praises of Pentagon 128 for weeks now?????
you “checkers or go”?

how did this empty nonsense about pisish junk, nothing to do?
su.local.kashenko seems to be there, they will probably understand.

Goodbye, write letters.

AR> If you wish, you can finish this.
AS> SORRY, while you are suffering from God knows what, I want to express my
AS> opinion... Use the VGa/Svga monitor as a regular monitor (at least
AS> SyncMaster 3Ne can work like that), you need with contacts and solder across
AS> contacts (r to r, g to g... vsync to vsync...)
AS> In my opinion, the monitor turns on by synchronization (in any case, this is how
AS> old SVGA monitors work...) and if you think about it, no crap like
AS> scramblers (or whatever they are) is needed...
maybe enough people have already mislead? did you connect a lot of vga/svga
monitors? they do not support lowercase 15khz all with rare exceptions.

Goodbye, write letters.

VK> ^^^^^^^^^^
VK> ha-ha-ha, you don’t know about multicolor

Even without multicolor in many games and demos, the screen will be complete
garbage - half a picture from one frame, half from another. Some
sprites simply disappear - they have a drawing method like this, the most striking
example is the disappearing mouse arrow, everyone has seen... That is, you can only really look at
static pictures.

On Mon, 21 Jun 04 10:45:02 +0400, Andrey Romanenko wrote:

AR> At least do this first. I don't care about this synchronization under IS-DOS. If
AR> you want, you can finish that too.

And don’t you care about the missing mouse arrow in lines (under iS-DOS)?

AS> Use the VGa/Svga monitor as a regular monitor (at least SyncMaster 3Ne
AS> can

It can’t. Its controller will simply turn off everything for nothing if the scan
goes beyond the limits. The lower limit of the horizontal scan frequency is ~ 30 KHz.

KF>>> Does it have an SVHS input, where chroma (V) and brightness (Y) are separate,
KF>>> is it? With separate encoding, color does not deteriorate much.
VK>> hmm, interesting idea, but are there such encoders?

KF> Even without multicolor, in many games and demos the screen will be complete
KF> garbage - half a picture from one frame, half from another. Some
KF> sprites simply disappear - they have a drawing method like this, the most striking
KF> example is the disappearing mouse arrow, everyone has seen... That is, really
KF> only
KF> look at static pictures.

Come on! If you do it normally, then multicolor will work with a bang...
Simply write the information directly from the RGB output into a separate buffer - then, in parallel
with another process, pull it out of it and re-encode it to 320x200x16 and that's all there; Well, if there is not enough space for a border with some kind of scrolling, then at
640x480x16.

Regards.

KF> It can’t. His controller will simply turn everything off if the scan
KF> goes beyond the limits. The lower limit of the horizontal scanning frequency is ~30KHz.

There were old monitors with a television scanning frequency such as those EIZO that were supplied with
MSX2. And even now you can find a normal VCR (the price will actually be under $300). But this is not the same thrill at all - agree! It is necessary that SPECCY connects to any VGA/SVGA monitor! By the way, this is
what many (mostly bourgeois) have been waiting for from a sprinter for 5(?) years.

Regards.

On Fri, 25 Jun 04 10:49:24 +0400, Andrey Romanenko wrote:

AR> agree! It is necessary that SPECCY connects to any VGA/SVGA monitor! By the way, this
AR is what many (mostly bourgeois) have been waiting for from a sprinter for 5(?) years.

A spec with an SVGA monitor is called an EMULATOR. And the picture will be just as bad.

On Fri, 25 Jun 04 10:43:24 +0400, Andrey Romanenko wrote:

AR> Come on! If done normally, then multicolor will work well
AR> hooray...
AR> Just write the information directly from the RGB output into a separate buffer - then in parallel
AR> pull it out of it with another process and re-encode it to 320x200x16
AR> that's it
AR> it's all here; Well, if there is not enough space for a border with some kind of scrolling, then on
AR> 640x480x16.

If you do it normally, you still need a monitor that works
synchronously with the Spectrum. There is no other option.

KF>> complete garbage - half a picture from one frame, half from another.
KF>> Individual sprites simply disappear - they have a drawing method
KF>> this is the most striking example - the disappearing mouse arrow, seen by
KF>> everyone... That is, you can only really look at static pictures.
AR> Come on! If you do it normally, then multicolor will work great
AR> hurray... Just write the information directly from the RGB output into a separate buffer - then
AR> in parallel with another process, pull it out of it and re-encode it to lay out
AR> to 320x200x16, that's all here; Well, if there is not enough space for a border with
AR> some kind of scroll at 640x480x16.

So such a card has already actually been made and is being sold.
All by the same Peters. The price is about $100
Oddly enough, there is an altera again :)
Apparently that’s why only a few orders for it have come....
It’s just some kind of phobia....

As for the price - if people are even ready to screw up live digital monitors, then 100
bucks is not a pity for them, because for crap with crooked mixing/shattered/ancient sitting like
something from a mammoth is not respecting yourself, an ordinary small TV
will look better.

Bye, Andrey!
Arc/exRLDG

On Friday June 25 2004 Andrey Romanenko wrote to Kirill Frolov:

AR> that's a thrill - agree! It is necessary that SPECCY connects to any VGA/SVGA
AR> monitor! By the way, this is what many (mostly bourgeois) have been waiting for from sprinter-a
AR> for 5(?) years.
By the way, they waited for about a year since this card has been available.
Buy.
And then just one order from the CIS seems to have arrived, apparently we have it so well
they want it....

Bye, Andrey!
Arc/exRLDG

On Sat, 26 Jun 04 05:53:04 +0400, Alexander Araktcheew wrote:

AA> As for the price - if people are ready to even screw up live PC monitors, then
AA> 100
AA> 100 bucks is not a pity for them, because for the crap with crooked mixing/shrunken/ancient
AA> as

The grain size on an SVGA monitor will not allow you to reproduce a picture from
Spectrum without squareness or holes between the lines.

AA> something like a mammoth sitting - not respecting yourself, an ordinary small TV
AA> will look better.

Possibly.

AA> monitors, then 100 bucks is not a pity for them, because behind the crap with a crooked
AA> mixing / shriveled / ancient like
KF>
KF> The grain size on an SVGA monitor will not allow you to reproduce a picture from a
KF> Spectrum without squareness or holes between the lines.
and if you take a 19" IIYAMA with two inputs d-sub?

KF>

AS> By the way, when you “attacked” me about frequencies, I tell you:
AS> I launched my SyncMaster 3Ne...but the image did not hold up...(more precisely,
AS> it held up but [...] very poorly and crookedly and there were 3 of them [images])
I didn’t understand, this is a refutation my words??

p.s. thank your monitor for not burning out, old monicas usually like
to burn at non-standard frequencies for them.

Goodbye, write letters.

VK> and even better - b/w
By the way, I think that the Spectrum in black and white looks better than in color.
As for TVs - now it’s not a problem to buy any.

Bye, Vassili!
Arc/exRLDG

KF> A spec with an SVGA monitor is called an EMULATOR. And the picture will be the same
KF> nasty.

The emulator is not a hardware SPECCY but a virtual one. Of course, you can also
add a virtual HDD or SB or SVGA to it - but that’s another story, which is here
offtopic and few people like it.

Regards.

AA> Such a card has actually already been made and is being sold.
AA> Still by the same Peters. Price about $100

Where does this information come from?

Regards.

AR> And where does this information come from?

Yes, I got drunk on beer and made it up.

Do you even follow the news?
Or is the Chukchi not a reader, the Chukchi a writer?
You can look into the global trash heap and search.

Bye, Andrey!
Arc/exRLDG

VK> usually like to burn at frequencies that are not standard for them.
AS> Thank you very much!!! :>>
AS> And to be honest, you can load frequency 2 two times higher on
AS> lines (hard-door) and then you will get an almost “normal image”
I repeat again (letter by letter):
P E R E S T A N B P O R R O T H B H U S H U!

Sorry for the rudeness

Before dates, write letters.

KF>> The grain size on an SVGA monitor will not allow you to reproduce a picture
KF>> from a Spectrum without squareness or holes between the lines.
VK> and if you take a 19" IIYAMA with two d-sub inputs?

AA> Yes, I got drunk and made up some beer.

URL?

Regards.

Пока!
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Amusement Park 2k4 <===60%-->
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Complete nonsense. The grain size does not play any role here. Or do you naively
believe that one point of the image always corresponds to one point
of the monitor screen? A square image on the monitor is obtained due to a different ratio of the horizontal and frame frequencies of the monitor. It is possible to lower the frequencies and
adjust them to the Spectrum ones, but the short afterglow time
of the phosphor of modern monitors will noticeably “flicker” at such frequencies.

VK> yes, I’m also completely serious about this.
VK> coding in ASMA on a bell is the best thing.
Well, ASCM, not ASCM, but most programs in black and white look better.
And the bell was a rare disgusting thing, often the lines diverged at the top of the screen
or the floor of the screen was darker.

Bye, Vassili!
Arc/exRLDG

AR> URL?
Unfortunately, the link is dead, like half of the Peters website.
The news was from 05.20.2003 www.petersplus.com/products/vgaconv.htm...........

Bye, Andrey!
Arc/exRLDG

On Wed, 30 Jun 04 22:36:48 +0400, Alexander Araktcheew wrote:

AA> And the bell was a rare nasty thing, often the lines diverged at the top
AA> of the screen
AA> or the floor of the screen was darker.

Well, for working with texts, anything is better than a blurry TV...

AA> Well, asm, not asm, but most programs look better in black and white.
AA> And the bell was a rare nasty thing, often the lines diverged
AA> at the top of the screen or the floor of the screen was darker.
you just had to choose from, about like watermelons :)))
mine, converted to VGA, still works, not even that much burned out.

/_*───────── ──────────────────────────── ──────────────────────────[80`s]────*_/

AL> you just had to choose from, about like watermelons :)))
AL> mine converted to VGA is still working, it’s not even too burnt out.
So they, the goats, over time began to suffer from such masochism, and after
one...

Bye, Alexander!
Arc/exRLDG

AA> The link is unfortunately dead, like half of the Peters website.
AA> The news was from 05.20.2003
AA> www.petersplus.com/products/vgaconv.htm...........

Sorry of course for such an answer. But with I. Mak everything is dead; both his ideas and his brainchild
sprinter too. All that people told him was that he was in trouble; he was going to get rich by stamping slop iron by competing with PECSE - that’s why he suffered. If he had listened and done what the ZX respecters wanted, he would have received much more - maybe there would have been 10,000 pirated copies of Sprinter in exUSSR, but there would have been a couple of thousand licensed ones; and so he has a “broken
trough”.

Regards.

AR> Sorry for this answer, of course. But I. Mak has everything dead; both the ideas and the brainchild
All the information on this product was there.
Only there were no orders for it...

AR> his sprinter too. All that people told him was that he was on his side, he
AR> was going to get rich by stamping slop iron, competing with PECSE
AR> - that’s why he suffered. If he had listened and done what they wanted
What the hell?
If he had competed with the PC (which is pointless), he would not have introduced modes
of full compatibility with the Spectrum, there would not have been a full-fledged AY and
Kempston mouse emulator, and TR-DOS emulation on the hard drive would not have been needed.
He suffered from the general departure of people from Spectrum.

Plus another psychological option - the fully assembled Sprinter looked like two peas in a pod, so it began. When there are two almost
identical looking computers next to each other at home, people start asking stupid questions - “why
the second one?”

AR> ZX respecters would have received much more - maybe there would have been 10,000 pirated copies of sprinter in exUSSR
AR> but there would have been a couple of thousand
I beg you.
There wouldn’t have been them.
One unsoldered one the board costs 700 rubles, plus you need to order several
region-specific (but available at the same time) components.
Then configure, and this is more difficult than a standard Spectrum, bus frequenciesetc.
above, you won’t be able to find everything with a simple multimeter.
The final price would have reached the same level.
But psychology worked again - if I can’t do it myself, then what the hell.

AR> licensed;
AR> and so it has a “broken trough”.
So we have a dying platform.

Bye, Andrey!
Arc/exRLDG

He suffered not from the “general departure”, but from the fact that he became a toy for
the rich...

AR>> and so he has a “broken trough”.
AA> So we have a dying platform.
Who is dying???
He is more than all of you yet will live!

04 Jul 04 12:00, you wrote to Alexander Araktcheew:

AS> It suffered not from “general waste”, but from the fact that it became a toy
AS> for the rich...
the sprinter still costs less than offtopic, on which you can play more or less
new toys. There’s a lot more off-topic stuff, right?

AS> Who is dying???
AS> He will live longer than all of you!

I heard that a couple of years ago some offices in the USA were taking bets on
whether M$ .NET would crush Sun's JAVA. Maybe we can also take bets on who
will last longer on a sprinter or other speccy in loose conditions?

Regards.