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A problem has arisen: the programs find a camston mouse, but I didn’t have it (the mouse) anywhere near the pro.
well, the programs “slow down.” You can’t tell me what the problem might be.

With respect, Shurik

AM> A problem arose: the programs find a mouse, but it (the mouse)
AM> I didn’t have anywhere near it on the pro.
AM> well, the programs “slow down”. You can’t tell me what the problem might be.

This is the BB55 port in such a state. :-) But there is a charm, write
any values into it (with which there will be no glitches), and it will produce them
when polling ports.

Regards, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

>E-MAIL: asde...@softhome.net ICQ: #13064553

You have Profi, I suppose?

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ëءث-شد 19 Mar 99 × 09:47:42 ذزدةعدغإج ثدخئجةثش
Alex Letaev ة Aleksandr Mocshev سذدزةجة خء شإحص Re:
ٌ زإغةج ذزدؤدجضةشط ـشدش سذدز:

AM>> ÷دعخةثجء آزدآجإححء ذزداة خءبدؤرش ثإحسشدخ حظغط,ء إ£(حظغة)
AM>> ص حإخر خء ذزدئة ة زرؤدح خإ ×ةسإجد.
AM>> خص ء ذزداة "شدزحدعرش".خإ ذدؤسثءضإشإ × ق£ح حدضش آظشط ؤإجد.
AL> üشد ذدزش ÷÷55 × شءثدح سدسشدرخةة خءبدؤةشسر. :-) ْءشد إسشط ذزإجإسشط, عءذةغة
AL> × خإاد جہآظإ عخءقإخةر (س ثدشدزظحة خإ آصؤإش اجہثد×), ة دخ آصؤإش ةب ×ظؤء×ءشط
AL> ذزة دذزدسإ ذدزشد×.
ًدع×دجہ س ×ءحة خإ سداجءسةشسر شءثدت ذزدآجإحدت آدجطخظ ×سإ ذزدئة ةع عء ثزة×داد ذدزشء #ff ة ÷÷55 شصش ءآسدجہشخد خإ ذزةقإح.

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ëءث-شد 17 Mar 99 × 01:38:24 ذزدةعدغإج ثدخئجةثش
Aleksandr Mocshev ة All سذدزةجة خء شإحص
ٌ زإغةج ذزدؤدجضةشط ـشدش سذدز:

Apparently, something is hanging on the mouse ports. Possibly FF port. This happened to me once, but only on a different computer.

Wow! The Protoss are attacking my Zerlings! It's time to get going. Ivan.

- Break up the scheme, big and small..

... E-mail: ivan...@neva.spb.ru

AL> This is the BB55 port in this state. :-) But there is a charm,
AL> write any values ​​into it (with which there will be no glitches), and it will
AL> produce them when polling ports.

This is exactly what is done in the format... if memory serves...

2AM: Does the format work fine for you? :)

AL> Sincerely, Alex from FFC COMPUTERS.

>> E-MAIL: asde...@softhome.net ICQ: #13064553

Next time, when writing a message on the Internet, keep in mind that the spektrumist does not know file transfer formats other than UUE and the fact that messages must be written in koi8, because all messages arriving on the server are automatically recoded into an alternative GOST encoding... You can imagine what a person who receives a message in WIN1251 will read, which is converted using the koi8_alt sign. ;)))

Actually, this applies to everyone who has not read Arr5... Reminds me. ;)

The address of the last Samara _realist_ (but not the s-networker, as it is written in the respected publication BornDead#7) is W...@messages.to or W...@hello.to... Don't pass by. ;)))

With respect, Alex Noman.

20 Mar 99 00:33, Oleg Pritula -> Aleksandr Mocshev:

AM>> A problem has arisen: the programs find a mouse, but it (the mouse)
AM>> I didn’t even have a pro.
^^^^^

AM>> well, the programs “they are slowing down.” can you tell me what the problem might be.
OP> I think you have Profi?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Original. ;)
Sincerely, SP/PoS.

People, do you think a device that
cuts off power from the computer via any port will find its use?

With respect, Shurik

AI> Let me disagree with you, all the pros are sick with this problem because of
AI> the crooked port #ff and BB55 have absolutely nothing to do with it.

I don’t have the circuit diagram at the moment. :-( What kind of curve is this, on
resistors according to Chung's scheme or some other? But does BB55 hang on the ports with its
value?

OP> Why are you scaring people? :))

I'm sorry... I didn't say enough. :) Of course, a real person with a phone and a modem. ;)

OP> Obviously, not the last Samara _realist_, but the last Samara
OP> _realist_ _on_the-net_, not counting Shaitan/OHG ;)

Yes, Shaitan is not too eager to go online... Although I already gave him an address in Fido...

2ОХГ: Max Shashkin 2:5057/43.14

OP> o(@ @)o -=POWer/WDG=-

Regards, Alex Noman.

AL> I don’t have a diagram at the moment. :-( What kind of curve is this
AL>, on
AL> resistors according to Chung's scheme or some other? But BB55 hangs on the ports

In the pros, as far as I remember, it is not the attribute values that are thrown into the FF port, but
the values of the points. That's why the curve. Soldering the summaries, its components
definitely cured the glitch with the Kempston mouse. But actually identifiers need to be
better, then the mouse will not be detected in its absence.

AL> with its meaning?

VVshka definitely has nothing to do with it.

WBR, Vladimir Berezenko AKA Q-Master

[Team ELITE Federation]

OP> _realist_ _on_the-net_, not counting Shaitan/OHG ;) Well, never mind, soon
I wanted to know the address of this Shaitan/YOHG.
Thanks in advance.
OP> our ranks will be replenished again, after your massive write-up.
OP> ;))

Alexey AKA Pst

AM> Do you think people will find a use for a device
AM> that turns off the power from the computer via any port?

Of course! For example, using it together with a soaper in the case when it is necessary
to leave the computer at night, for automatic redialing.
By the way, in Melon it was supposed to use a similar device, and maybe
it looks like it is still there.
Do you have any changes in this regard?

It won't hurt. And it would be nice if the computer turned on itself at a certain time
and also loaded some software.

By... Navigator.

Wednesday March 24 1999 16:03, Alexey Sergienko wrote Oleg Pritula:

AS> I wanted to know the address of this Shaitan/YOHG.

OHG. ;)

AS> Thanks in advance.

Max Shashkin 2:5057/43.14

AS> Alexey AKA Pst

zy. Read the echo carefully, I have already posted the address.

With respect, Alex Noman.

^^^^^ and who is this?
In absolutely all pros, at the output of the pixel register, abstracts hang with one
end on the bus, so we get a certain port #ff, only not
attributes are read, but graphics for all not used ports, what this leads to is probably
you can figure it out yourself. So, in order to avoid such glitches, you need to bite out these shortcuts
even if you install the mouse directly, because in this device for buttons
only 3 bits are used, the remaining 5 will float, and this leads to the fact that
some mouse detectors are not found.

AL> But BB55 hangs on the ports with its value?
How did it get there? its ports have always been #1f #3f #5f #7f and this does not intersect with the ports of
mouse.

---───══════════════╡ Best regards, Andrey ╞══════════════────--

EV> It won't hurt. And it would be good if the computer turned on itself at
EV> at a certain time, and also downloaded some software.
You can turn it on when there is a clock with an alarm clock.
you have to turn it on at the output of the microcircuit, so CMOS will not work.
And the download of software (s) must be done programmatically.
but where to store this program, the devil only knows,

Sincerely, Shurik
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OP> Of course! For example, using it together with a soaper in the case
OP> when it is necessary
OP> to leave the computer overnight, for automatic redialing.
OP> By the way, in Melon it was supposed to use a similar
OP> device, but maybe
OP> it looks like it is still there.
OP> Do you have any changes in this regard?
We need to find out which port, and what bit.
Maybe someone knows how to do this in Melon thought?

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EV> It won't hurt. And it would be nice if the computer turned on itself at a certain
EV> time, and also loaded some software.

That's it! If you're going to get into the computer's power supply, then you need to turn it on.
This is even supported by AXLR in "MADROM" - the firmware for the "empty" ROM page.
At the alarm signal (pin 19 - /IRQ) of the CMOS clock, the computer should turn on and
run either "boot" or enter NeOS (depending on what you write in the clock). But this was never implemented in
hardware - there was no need yet.

This was generally supposed to be the case, but you can’t do it like that :), you should, of course, do it on an
optoelectronic relay.
Once again: no one checked THIS.

╒═════════ ON/OFF .W ════════════──

Hello, Alexander!

Here are the “subject” diagrams. As they say: “Cheap and cheerful.”
It should work. The bottleneck is the contacts of the relays K1 and K2. But,
I think it will work for a hundred years anyway.

┌──────┬────┬── U bat
│ │ │
█ 10K █ 1K │
█ █ │
│ + │ / e
/IRQ ──███──┴──Є╟──┴──Є KT502
b\k
1K *1.0 │
┌─┴─┐
K1 └─┬─┘ "ON"
═╧═ ─┴─
┌───┘└───┐
│ / K1 │
┌── +12V ├───┘ └───┤
│ │ / K3 │
┌─┴─┐ K3 ┌/ K2
Q ──███──┬───Є KT503 │ └─/
│ b\e │ ┌/ "OFF"
1K █ │ │ │
█ 1K │ 0 ~220V 0
│ │
═╧═ ═╧═

/IRQ - interrupt signal from the alarm clock CMOS
Q - signal from the shutdown port register

K1 - RES-60, passport 0402 (on 3-5V)
K2 - RES-15, passport 002 (at 12V)
K3 - RP-21 ~220V 50Hz !!!

The RESET (CMOS) signal, well, the “power control”, must be wired
as usual! (in my clock diagram it is drawn)

The capacity needs to be selected. I wrote 1.0 uF "from the light". We have to practically try it. The smaller it is, the less the switching impulse drains the battery. But you shouldn’t forget about the reliability of operation. It is necessary, gradually increasing the capacity, to achieve
the operation of K1 and K3, and then, for reliability, double it

All the best.
Roman.

╘═════════ end of file ════════════──

All the best.
Best regardsRoman.

31 Mar 99 09:43, Roman Milukov wrote to Eugenij Vorobev:

RM> battery switching pulse. But we shouldn’t forget about the reliability of operation
RM>. It is necessary, by gradually increasing the capacity, to achieve
RM> activation of K1 and K3, and then, for reliability, double it
RM>.

Or maybe a better diode bridge, a thyristor, 2 optotrons, a trigger...
The batteries will last a long time, and the reliability is higher, maybe...

Kirill Frolov.

On Wednesday March 31 1999 Roman Milukov wrote to Eugenij Vorobev:

RM> should turn on and run either “boot” or enter NeOS (depending
RM> what you write in the clock). But this was never implemented in hardware -
RM> there was no need yet.
Hmmm... Interesting idea. You can do this in NeOS: depending on the bit
exit either in NeOS, or launch TR-DOS straight away. Only if you run
TR-DOS, then you won’t be able to go to NeOS :-)

Bye, Roman! Megus/Brainwave.

06 Apr 99 13:41, Roman Petrov wrote to Roman Milukov:

RP> Hmmm... Interesting idea. You can do this in NeOS: depending
RP> on the byte, either exit to NeOS or immediately launch TR-DOS. Only
RP> if you run TR-DOS, then you won’t be able to get into NeOS :-)

Maybe you should launch neos first, and then tr-dos from under it?

And IMHO neos = another Pink Floyd, think about it - the processor has 64kb in total, and you
16kb you take for ROM, which has useful things, but in 99% of cases you can put them in a jar.
And the set of functions surprised me...

Why not just develop CP/M further?

Kirill Frolov. [ZX]

RP> Hmmm... Interesting idea. You can do this in NeOS: depending on the
RP> byte
RP>, either exit to NeOS or immediately launch TR-DOS. Only if you run
RP> TR-DOS, then you won’t be able to go to NeOS :-)

No, don’t do that. In NeOS you need to do this: document 2 additional
entry points into it. 1 - #0000 - as it is now by reset; 2 - #???? (preferably
#00C9) - login to NeOS _without!_ memory clearing; 3 - #???? - logging into NeOS is normal,
with RAM check.
Yes! There is no need to invent new CMOS clock cells for this! Look here:

╒═════════ MadRom.H.W ════════════──

[...]
CMOS clocks are supported according to Gluck: the drive selected from the screensaver
is stored in register #10 CMOS, SetUp with all sorts of
(un)useful things, and the time/date display.
The clock will be found if register #11 CMOS
contains #AA. It is believed that time/date is stored in
binary decimal format, the days of the week are encoded as follows:
1-monday,...7-sunday. Months: 1-Jan,...,12-Dec.

The ability to turn on the computer by alarm
CMOS is supported. After the reset, the firmware compares the current time and
alarm clock. If the hours and minutes coincide, and the difference in
seconds is no more than 4 seconds, then depending on
the state of the "alarm rom" flag, control is transferred to DOS or
toBasic128. Moreover, using software microphones you can
additionally set any computer configuration you want and
when turned on, all this will work. For example, if there is
a modification “substituting the cache instead of the basic128 ROM”, then when
it is turned on, control can be transferred to the cache (and after
control is transferred, the running program can
set some other starting configuration,
corresponding, for example, to the next day of the week:).
Program microphone registers: #13, #14. The names of the microphones
and the addresses of their ports are entered by the user independently before
flashing the ROM (or even STS). Ports can be set
ABSOLUTELY ANY - taking into account the characteristics of the machine
on which MadRom is installed. All the same, no one
except the user will get to these ports :). new ones, if they appear on the computer,
can be registered without erasing the ROM - there is #FF right now.

[...]

Operating firmware flags (register #12 CMOS):

made for those whose views on rules, for example, ASMA
differ from ours :)

bit2=0/1...Enter the page using the "R" key #14/#51 #7FFD;
bit3=0/1...Entering the "H" key into the cache at address 0/#3FFD;
bit4=0/1...Entering the "T" key into page #17/#57 #7FFD;
bit5=0/1...Entering the "U" key into Basic128 from the address #c9/#00.

tobit0 of register #12 you can find out how it works on a computer
bit5 #7FFD - to a 48k latch (bit0=1) or to an additional
address for Pentagon-1024 (bit0=0)

[...]

07 Apr 99 you wrote here:

KF> And IMHO neos = another Pink Floyd, think about it - the processor has 64kb in total, and
KF> you
KF> 16kb you take for a ROM, in which there are useful things, but in 99% of them you can in
KF> jar.
KF> Yes, and the set of functions surprised me...

KF> Why not just develop CP/M further?

Why develop it? Take it and use it. How many versions are there? Under Pro, under
ATM, under Scorp...
And on normal Spec-128-512, of which there are about 50% so far, it does not work without
some modifications to the computer. It’s not just the ROM that needs to be changed?