mp3 on ZX
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what if we standardize the connection to the Spectrum
of a hardware mp3 decoder chip and support it with software (drivers
or modules, for example, for Real Commander)?
then it would be possible not only to listen to audio CDs, but also discs with mp3!
Best regards, Vadim.
Thursday December 03 1998 10:41, Vadim Chumachenko wrote to All:
VC> what if we standardize the connection to the Spectrum
VC> of a hardware mp3 decoder chip and support it with software
VC> (drivers or modules, for example, to Real Commander)?
To To sell something unnecessary, you must first buy something unnecessary. But we don't have any money! (c) Matroskin the Cat
First, connect it and write the software. And then it is always
possible to standardize.
VC> then it would be possible not only to listen to audio CDs, but also to mp3 discs!
Uh-huh. And watch the movie. Fully in DivX5
Best regards, Oleg. [ZX]
Thu Dec 11 2003, 10:41,
Vadim Chumachenko -> All:
VC> what if we standardize the connection to the Spectrum
VC> of a hardware mp3 decoder chip and support it with software
VC> (drivers or modules, for example, to Real Commander)?
VC> then it would be possible not only to listen to audio CDs, but also to mp3 discs!
I could be wrong, but in ZX.SPECTRUM they frayed it. It seems that they came to the conclusion that such a joke is only for fans. It will be easier to buy an MP3 player (I don’t remember
how about cheaper ;)).
WBR, Sergei Dubarev
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11 Dec 03 10:41, Vadim Chumachenko -> All:
VC> what if we standardize the connection to the Spectrum
VC> hardware mp3 decoder chip and support it with software
VC> (drivers or modules, for example, for Real Commander)?
VC> then it would be possible not only audio Listen to CDs, but also listen to mp3 discs!
The idea is not new. It seems there are connection diagrams for the Z80, but not for the Speccy. I'm not a hardware person, I can only say that I would tear it off with my hands.
Moreover, you can pick up a hardware MPG4 decoder and watch movies. It’s just that there’s no one to take on this. :(((
Sincerely, Alexey.
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VC>> then it would be possible not only to listen to audio CDs, but also to mp3 discs!
AT> The idea is not new. It seems there are connection diagrams for the Z80, but not for the Speckie. I'm not
AT> a piece of iron,
AT> I can only say that I would tear it off with my hands.
Do you know how these hardware decodecs work?
You think you throw it to him byte byte, and he already
unpacked it back to you byte by byte?
newart/n-Discovery - Code, Gfx, AY Music fan
VC>> mp3!
SD> I could be wrong, but in ZX.SPECTRUM they overhauled this. It seems that they came to the
SD> conclusion that such a joke is only for fans. An MP3 player will be
SD> easier to buy (I don’t remember, how about cheaper ;)).
They were grinding. But we came to other conclusions:
1. You can connect.
2. You need to connect.
3. It turns out cheaper, the figure was 600-800 rubles (this is 2-3 times cheaper than the player).
4. Unfortunately, there is no one to take on the implementation. :( I personally am not a hardware person, but in case
if such a device is installed, I promise a player under SPM.
And based on your logic, ANY hardware improvement of the spec is only for
fans.
AT> 3. It turns out to be cheaper, the figure was 600-800 rubles (this is 2-3 times cheaper than the
AT> player). 4. Unfortunately, there is no one to take on the implementation. :( I personally am not
AT> a clunker, but in case such a device is installed I promise
AT> a player under SPM.
AT> And based on your logic, ANY iron improvement of the speck
AT> is only for fans.
Well, not any, but let’s say, “fashionable”, bordering on uselessness, or something.
The joke of an mp3 player in The fact is that you can carry it with you. It runs on batteries. You won’t also carry the Spectrum with you, looking for a 220V outlet along the way;) Although, from the point of view of self-education in the field of circuit design and
other electronics, the subject is quite useful. :)
WBR, Sergei Dubarev
AT> They were grinding. But we came to different conclusions:
AT> 1. You can connect.
AT> 2. You need to connect.
AT> 3. It turns out cheaper, the figure was 600-800 rubles (this is 2-3 times cheaper than an
AT> player).
600-800 rubles is just the decoder chip ($20)!
A handicraft is in no way cheaper will not happen.
AT> 4. Unfortunately, there is no one to take on the implementation. :( I personally am not a clunker,
You also need software. Likewise, you are not a programmer.
AT> but if such a device is installed, I promise a player under SPM.
Can you imagine the complexity? Have you had experience writing similar
programs?
And one more thing: MP3 is a 16-32 KB/sec data stream. Where can I get it from?
Okay, with screw. The Spectrum will have time even if you try. But at the same time
the computer will turn out to be an ordinary stationary MP3 player... In the sense,
the computer will not be able to work as a computer while playing MP3.
Is this necessary, and why?
AT>> SPM.
KF> Can you imagine the difficulty? Have you had experience writing similar
KF> programs?
Honestly - partially.
KF> And one more thing: MP3 is a 16-32 KB/sec data stream. Where to get it
KF> from?
KF> Okay, from the screw. The Spectrum will make it in time even if you try. But at the same time
KF> from a computer you will get an ordinary stationary MP3 player... I mean,
KF> a computer as a computer will not be able to work while playing MP3.
KF> Is this necessary, and why?
At the moment, I can’t play them at all. Once upon a time they said about multicolor that you couldn’t do anything with it. :) And then they learned to make toys on
full screen.
In the worst case, I’ll take them to the dacha in the summer, and I’ll listen there.
AT>> speckies. I’m not a hardware person, I can only say that I would tear it off with my hands
AT>>.
VK> Do you know how these hardware decodecs work?
VK> You think you throw it to him byte byte, and he already
VK> returns the unpacked one byte byte too?
I don’t think so. But as I understand it, this problem can be solved.
13 Dec 03 at 01:19, Sergei Dubarev -=> Vadim Chumachenko regarding SD> I could be wrong, but in ZX.SPECTRUM this was rubbed out. It seems that they came to the conclusion Definitely cheaper. In 4615 you can get benQ mp3 Joy for 360 hryvnia (60 bucks or something). And taking into account all the fuss, burnt parts, singed fingers and The Sergei! /Stanley/
SD> that such a joke is only for fans. It will be easier to buy an MP3 player (not
SD> I remember, how about cheaper ;)).
lost time, it’s not worth bothering with it at all. )
And by and large, why is this craft at all? You can carry the player in your pocket (I don’t take disc players with mp3 players, only flash due to my love for minimalism)))) and connect it to the speakers to organize a spontaneous party.
))) You won’t be carrying the spec? )
Another thing sounds tempting is video playback, but in this case the role of the spec will be minimal, and the complexity and resource intensity will be enormous. And here
the west (east?) has already taken over, my friend has an mp3 disk player (I don’t know how much it cost), upon closer inspection, the AV-OUT hole was noticed where
he periodically tried to insert the power supply. When connecting this socket to the TV, it turned out that the craft can actually spin VCD discs. A pocket
video recorder and mp3 sound pleasant to the ear. So it looks like there is no speck here. )))
LocalDate 20 Dec 03 - LocalTime 09:42
AT> I don’t think so. But as I understand it, this problem can be solved.
In fact, they work even simpler - you push
bytes from an mp3 file to him at his request, and he plays the DAC himself, feeding it with the necessary signals.
All you need is to have time to push the bytes into it. The problem is aggravated by the fact that
the bytes must be pushed through a synchronous serial interface (2-3
wires).
Bye...
AT> At the moment, I can’t lose them at all. Once upon a time and about
Buy yourself a wearable player... Fundamentally, it is not much different from
what you are going to attach to the Spectrum. In the sense that the electronic
filling, not counting the CD reader, is similar.
AT> multicolor they said that you can’t do anything with it. :) And then toys
AT> on
AT> learned how to make a full screen.
In this case, nothing complicated is required from the Spectrum. It just doesn't really make any sense. Unless, of course, playing MP3 on the Spectrum is not the goal itself.
SD>> the conclusion is that such a joke is only for fans. An MP3 player will be
SD>> easier to buy (I don’t remember, how about cheaper ;)).
SI> Definitely cheaper. At 4615 you can get benQ mp3 Joy for 360 hryvnia (60
SI> bucks and something).
Well, it started, well, here we go. We have already decided on the price: $20 per chip = 600
rubles (besides, $ has a clear tendency for the price to fall). Let's round it up to 1000 rubles -
where can you find an MP3 player for that money??
SI> And taking into account all the fuss, burnt spare parts, singed
SI> fingers and wasted time, it’s not worth bothering with it at all.)
As I understand it, you need a microcircuit + minimal weighting. For me this may be a
problem, but a knowledgeable person can handle it in 1-2 days IMHO (if there is a diagram).
SI> And looking at the big picture, why is this craft at all? You
SI> can carry the player in your pocket (I don’t take disc players with mp3 players,
SI> only flash due to my love for minimalism)))) and connect it to
SI> speakers and organize a spontaneous party. ))) You're not going to carry the spec
SI>?
Why do I need a player? I personally don’t need it for nothing. Well, I don’t listen to music in
transport or on the street, and in general I consider it bad manners, just like chewing gum in public places.
SI> ) Another thing sounds tempting is playing video, but in this
SI> case the role of spec will be minimal, andthe sophistication and resource consumption
SI> is huge.
Well, outputting a static picture and playing music should be enough, but using
DMA you can try to do something more. Add to this the CD and the screw, and we get very good, good musical accompaniment for games. Let's say static cards at the beginning, end of the game (round), for some event, etc. (option
mass) and all this to high-quality music.
Let's say the role of the pussy on 3D cards in the graphics output is not only minimal, it is
negligible. But no one is shouting that we need to refuse them for this reason.
Or are you the first swallow?
SI> And even here the West (East?) has already taken over, my friend has an mp3 disc
SI> player (I don’t know how much it cost), upon closer inspection it was
SI> noticed the AV-OUT hole where he periodically tried to insert the power supply
SI>. When connecting this socket to the TV, it turned out that the craft
SI> quite realistically spins VCD discs. And a pocket video recorder and mp3
SI> sounds pleasant to the ear. So it looks like there is no speck here. )))
I'm delighted! What does speck have to do with it? Now, if you connect an MPG4 player to the spec, then we can also use cartoons in screensavers, etc. insert. IMHO it’s not even bad at all.
But there’s no need to shout that the role of the spec here will be minimal. I once heard that there are video cards with a hardware decoder on the computerMPG4.
...Aleksey Tarasow ..> Kirill Frolov:
AT> At the moment, I can’t lose them at all. Once upon a time they said about
AT> multicolor that you couldn’t do anything with it. :) And then
AT> they learned how to make full-screen toys.
and from this point on, in more detail - which toy has full-screen multicolor?
...bye.Aleksey! ...tigrr//bw::ceg
... Deep Dish - Global Underground [21] - Moscow [disc 1] ...
AT> Let's say the role of the pisyuk on 3D cards in the graphics output is not just
minimal, it
AT> is insignificant. But no one is shouting that they need to be abandoned for this reason.
AT> Or are you the first sign?
You understand as much about computers as you do about circuit design and
programming :) Have you ever heard of cpu-limited graphics applications?
“3D cards” just render polygons. The data is prepared by the processor, and this is
a very resource-intensive task.
The above is off-topic, but the point of my statement is that there is no need to
talk about something that you have no idea about :)
AT> I once heard that there are video cards on a computer with a hardware decoder
MPG4.
You were deceived. Available with MPEG1 (VCD), MPEG2 (DVD) decoder.
According to the subject. IMHO, all this is not needed. It's easier and _much_ better to buy an MP3 player.
In any case. If you really want to hook it up to Spec, go ahead, make a
USB bus, write software to control the player, and use it fully.
Shiru Otaku^IIpr
AT>> and they said about multicolor that you can’t do anything with it. :) And
AT>> then they learned to make toys in full screen.
IT> and from this place in more detail - which toy has multicolor on full
IT> screen?
In the appendix to some magazine there was a toy “Roger Rabbit”. The game is very similar
to the manual “Wait a minute!” Only instead of a wolf, a rabbit.
Sincerely, Alexey.
AT> I'm delighted! What does speck have to do with it? Now, if you connect an MPG4
AT> player to the spec, you can also use cartoons in screensavers, etc. insert. IMHO it’s not even very bad. But there’s no need to shout that the role of speckie will be minimal here too. I once heard that there are video cards on the PC with an hardware
AT> MPG4 decoder.
AT> Sincerely, Alexey.
AT> PS When replying to netmail, I kindly ask you to cut the letters to 11Kb. Otherwise
AT> the ending will be lost. :((
AT> + Origin: Strength is the last argument of stupid people. (2:5053/51.4)
Bye Aleksey! /Stanley/
LocalDate 22 Dec 03 - LocalTime 21:51
AT> Why do I need a player? I personally don’t need it for nothing. Well, I don’t listen to music
AT> in transport or on the street, and in general I consider it bad form, just like
AT> chewing gum in public places.
Sony is leaving the market on weak legs, Panasonic is nervously smoking in the toilet,
Clatronic is mastering the production of specs with its entire staff. There is no place for them on the market of pocket players, this is bad form. ) Just for such a joke, but for me it’s better
a punk in a player and headphones like KOSS PLUG than with a radio on his shoulder. )
AT> Well, outputting a static picture and playing music should be enough, but
AT> using DMA, you can try to do something more. Add to this
AT> CD and screw, we get very good musical accompaniment of games. Let's say
AT> static cards at the beginning, end of the game (round), for some event, and
AT> etc. (there are a lot of options) and all this to high-quality music.
You know, in recent years in 4615 I was an innovator of all sorts of Kempston mouse, cmos,
and modifications of Covox. And now my last unfulfilled dream is GS. And now I looked at the list of games that are adapted for GS... I wouldn’t take it for nothing.
Do you feel where the wind is blowing? Another little-in-demand craft.
AT> Let's say the role of the pussy on 3D cards in graphics output is not only
AT> minimal, it is insignificant. But no one shouts thatIt is necessary for this
AT> reason to refuse them. Or are you the first sign?
Sorry, but so far in the PC and mpeg4 the stream and mp3 decoding are going poorly
(we don’t take into account specifics). So this is not a swallow, it is a necessity.
Read the story with 3dfx Vodoo 1.
AT> I'm delighted! What does speck have to do with it? Now, if you connect an MPG4
AT> player to the spec, you can also use cartoons in screensavers, etc. insert. IMHO it’s not even very bad. But there’s no need to shout that the role of speckie will be minimal here too. I once heard that there are video cards on a PC with a hardware
AT> MPG4 decoder.
There is a suggestion: after the ULA we connect a hardware mpeg 4 decoder (certainly this is the first time I’ve heard of it, if it’s not expensive), after the AY 8910/12 we connect a
hardware mp3 player, load “The Matrix” DivX and begin to admire... That what
is connected after the spec? What will be the role of the Spectrum? It's like adding a TV to a gameboy. Speck survived at one time due to his total
compatibility, and if to start the game you had to look at a list of 30
points, then Clive's case would have died back in 1984-1985.
Bye Aleksey! /Stanley/
LocalDate 22 Dec 03 - LocalTime 21:52
22 Dec 03 at 04:30, Shiru Otaku -=> Aleksey Tarasow regarding SO> The above is off-topic, but the point of my statement is that you shouldn’t Yes, it’s not off-topic, since it’s an echotag we protect. ) SO> You were deceived. Available with MPEG1 (VCD), MPEG2 (DVD) decoder. Yes, but the cheap ones are so crude. And I really haven’t seen Mpeg4 among the “home ones”, and how can it be, when DVD players don’t play normally yet. SO> According to the subject. IMHO, you don’t need all this. It’s simpler and _much_ better to buy an MP3 Nice to see like-minded person. Bye Shiru /Stanley/
SO> talk about something you have no idea about :)
Mustek is just crap, but Xero still plays DivX... but 3.11 and without sound... I don’t
know why. (So not only is there no way, but also no point.
SO> player. Anyway. If you really want to hook it up to Speck, go ahead,
SO> make a USB bus, write software to control the player, and use it
SO> fully.
LocalDate 22 Dec 03 - LocalTime 22:10
In a message of 21 Dec 03 Aleksey Tarasow wrote to Stanley Ivanenko:
AT> Well, it started, well, here we go. We have already decided on the price: $20 per chip
AT> = 600 rubles (besides, $ has a clear tendency for the price to fall). Let's round up to
AT> 1000 rubles - where will you find an MP3 player for this money??
And where will you find it for 1000 rubles. decoder chip? Try searching, then speak up :) It turned out to be easier and cheaper to find adsp21065l, which can eat mp3 and ogg for your sweet soul (if, of course, you solder a pretty good circuit and write
Megasoft), than a specialized decoder...
AT> As I understand it, you need a microcircuit + minimal weight. For me, maybe
AT> this is a problem, but a knowledgeable person can handle it in 1-2 days IMHO (if
AT> there is a circuit).
Think about the question - will the spec have time to push data into this chip?
AT> Why do I need a player? I personally don’t need it for nothing. Well, I
AT> don’t listen to music in transport and on the street, and in general I think it’s bad form,
listening to music in a car is bad form? :-)
AT> it’s like chewing gum in public places.
of course, it’s better to walk down the street with a toothbrush in your mouth and toothpaste smeared on
your face :-)
AT> Let’s say the role of the pussy on 3D cards in the output graphics is not only
AT> minimal, it is insignificant. But no one is shouting that they need to be abandoned for this reason. Or are you firstswallow?
The output is minimal, but the calculation of what needs to be output is overwhelming.
AT> I'm delighted! What does speck have to do with it? Now, if you connect an MPG4
AT> player to the spec, you can also use cartoons in screensavers, etc. insert. IMHO very
AT> not even bad. But there’s no need to shout that the role of speckie will be minimal here too. I once heard that there are video cards on the PC with
AT> hardware MPG4 decoder.
It’s better to connect a spec to the mpg4 player :)
Bye...
SI>>> disk player (I don’t know how much it cost), upon closer inspection
SI>>> the AV-OUT hole was noticed where he periodically
SI>>> tried to insert the power supply. When connecting this socket to the
SI>>> TV, it turned out that the craft quite realistically spins VCD discs. A
SI>>> pocket video recorder and mp3 sounds nice to the ear. So
SI>>> it looks like there is no speck here. )))
AT> As I understand it, you need a microcircuit + minimal equipment.
Minimal (really a couple of microcircuits) but not simple.
AT> For me, this may be a problem, but a knowledgeable person can handle it in 1-2 days
AT> IMHO (if there is a circuit).
The software will take at least a month to write and debug. Is this also
free?
AT> Why do I need a player? I personally don’t need it for nothing. Well, I don’t listen to music
AT> in
AT> transport and on the street, and in general I consider it bad form, just like chewing
AT> chewing gum in public places.
Well, connect it to a stationary amplifier...
AT> DMA, you can try to do something more. Add to this the CD and the screw,
AT> we get very good musical accompaniment to the games. Let's say static
Yes, yes... There is no file system on that "screw" yet
AT> Let's say the role of the PC on 3D cards in the graphics output is not only minimal,
AT> it is insignificant.
Nonsense.
AT> But don't shout that the role of the speck here will be minimal too. Somehow
AT> I heard that there are video cards on the PC with an MPG4 hardware decoder.
Yep. A motherboard with a third stump and a built-in video adapter --
is quite a “card with a hardware decoder”...
VA> Think about the question - will the spec have time to push data into this chip?
You shouldn't be laughing. For a bitrate of 128 kbit, the incoming stream speed is something like 16
kbytes/sec. This is half the speed of the drive. The sound is obviously 16-bit stereo.
The only BUT is that I heard somewhere that data should be pushed in sequential
form, but this is already oh. Although, there are probably hardware decoders with an 8-bit bus. Is it bad taste to listen to music in a car? :-)
There is a radio for this. At the same time, you can find out information about traffic jams and the weather.
SI>> Yes, and here the West (East?) has already taken its toll, my friend has an mp3 disc
SI>> player (I don’t know how much it cost), upon closer inspection it was
SI>> noticed the AV-OUT hole where he periodically tried to insert the power supply
SI>>. When connecting this socket to the TV, it turned out that the craft
SI>> quite realistically spins VCD discs. A pocket video recorder and mp3
IT>> multicolor full screen?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AT> There was a Roger Rabbit toy in the appendix to some magazine. The game
AT> is very similar to the manual “Wait a minute!” Only instead of a wolf, a rabbit.
There was no smell of a full screen.
For this I say goodbye, with respect Alexey Kravchenko AKA Kurles^HS^CPU
[Speccy] [HorrorSoft] [CyberPunks Unity] [HorrorWord II 35%] [AY-Music]
... foobar playing: Black flute - Shaman
AT>> Let's round it up to 1000 rubles - where will you find an MP3 player for that
AT>> money??
I saw an mp3 CD player in a store for 1600 and kopecks.
SI> I won’t find it, but I won’t solder a prototype for 1000 rubles.
That’s for sure.
1) Few people can do this themselves.
2) Who wants (from those who can) do this?
3) Who will write the software?
4) Where can we get users of this device?
5) Where there is an mp3 decoder, there is a screw/cd. But not everyone has a screw. So
we read the list first, taking into account only ide users who will?
itch in this direction.
Best regards, Oleg. [ZX]
AK>There was no smell of a full screen.
More precisely, there was no smell of multicolor. Only gigascreen - mixing
the contents of regular and shadow screens to get 4
colors in one familiar place (without this stray on a regular Spectrum you get a flickering image with
a frequency of 25Hz).
Shiru Otaku^IIpr
AT> In the appendix to some magazine there was a toy “Roger Rabbit”. The game is very
AT> similar
AT> to the manual “Well, wait a minute!” Only instead of a wolf, a rabbit.
There is no multicore, there is RGB, that is, three bits of the plan,
each point has its own color.
newart/n-Discovery - Code, Gfx, AY Music fan
VK> You're laughing in vain. For a bitrate of 128 kbit, the incoming stream speed is something
VK> about 16 kbytes/sec. This is half the speed of the drive.
Sometimes it’s 320 kbit, by the way.
VK> The sound is obviously 16-bit stereo.
The sound doesn’t matter what kind of sound - you will have to push it into the DAC decoder yourself
:)
VK> The only BUT - I heard somewhere that the data needs to be pushed in
VK> serial form, and this is already oh.
Exactly.
VK> Although, there are probably hardware decoders with an 8-bit bus.
I don’t know. Everything I saw (in datasheets) was with a serial bus.
AK> There was a full screen and there was no smell.
Multicolor chickens are sitting on the sides, a multicolor hare is jumping in the center, and
the same multicolor eggs are falling. And in the text of the magazine it seemed to say that the game was in multicolor on the entire screen. (by multicolor I mean 1 color per
1 dot).
Sincerely, Alexey.
PS When replying to netmail, we kindly ask you to cut the letters to 11Kb. Otherwise
the ending will be lost. :((
OG> That's for sure.
That is, if there is a prototype for 1000 rubles, will you solder it?
We come to the conclusion that people are in favor, but we need a prototype.
OG> 1) Few people can do this themselves.
Well, I can solder “3 microcircuits” (as a last resort), and I’ll order the board from my aunt
at the factory, or using the technology described in Paragraph 18 I'll do it.
OG> 2) Who wants (among those who can) do this?
Wants to create a prototype?
OG> 3) Who will write the software?
For myself, I'll write a player myself. If anyone needs it, I’ll share it.
OG> 4) Where can I get users for this device?
I already have one. Me (at a device price of 1000-1500 rubles). IMHO there will be a prototype
and there will be others interested.
OG> 5) Where there is an mp3 decoder, there is a screw/cd. But not everyone has a screw.
I’ve had a screw for 4 years, a CD for 1 year. I spent 250 rubles on a 270 MB screw and got the CD for free. There is still 170 MB free on the hard drive.
OG> So we read the list first, taking into account only the ide users
OG> who will become? itching in this direction.
In any case, there’s nowhere to go without a screw. All new OSes will be oriented towards it.
So we either install a screw or sit with Tyrdos. And they have already approached the ceiling of the latter a long time ago.
AT> On the sides of the chicken sit multicolored ones, in the center a multicolored hare
AT> jumps, and the same multicolored eggs fall. And in the text of the magazine
I saw this toy, we wrote our kooleggz out of spite, IMHO it turned out cooler
:)
AT> it seemed to say that the game was multicolored on the whole screen. (by
AT> multicolor I mean 1 color per 1 point).
This is no longer multicolor, it turns out to be tricolor.
SO>
SO> More precisely, there was no smell of multicolor there. Only gigascreen - mixing
SO> the contents of regular and shadow screens to get 4 colors in one
SO> familiarity (without this gadget on a regular Spectrum you get an
SO> image flickering at a frequency of 25Hz).
again 25, show me a Spectrum on which the gigascreen does not flicker, and I will eat my
sneakers
pokedova Shiru
jtn\\4d
AT> On the sides of the chicken sit multicolored ones, in the center a multicolored hare
AT> jumps, and the same multicolored eggs fall. And in the text of a magazine like
AT> it was said that the game was in multicolor on the entire screen. (by multicolor I
AT> mean 1 color per 1 dot).
and this, my friend, has been called tricolor since time immemorial.
pokedova Aleksey
jtn\\4d
AK> This is no longer a multicolor, it turns out to be a tricolor.
Personally, I don’t care what you call it, the main thing is that it turned out to be a very good thing.
Although I could have lied about the colors, because... I've seen her for a long time.
SO>> mixing the contents of the regular and shadow screens to get
SO>> in one familiarity 4 colors (without this stray on a regular Spectrum
SO>> you get an image flickering at a frequency of 25Hz).
VK> again 25, show me a Spectrum on which the gigascreen does not flicker, and I
VK> will eat my slippers
With the hardware revision. :)
26 Dec 03 at 00:11, Aleksey Tarasow -=> Alexey Kravchenko regarding AT> it was said that the game is in multicolor on the whole screen. (by multicolor I Uh... Can you look at a sample, 8 colors going _on_one_point_ from left Bye Aleksey! /Stanley/
AT> mean 1 color per 1 point).
to right? And that is a strong implication of the concept “multicolor”. )))
LocalDate 28 Dec 03 - LocalTime 22:21
26 Dec 03 at 00:15, Aleksey Tarasow -=> Oleg Groskow regarding AT> In any case, there’s nowhere to go without a screw. All new operating systems will be based on A little off-topic, but I’ll say it anyway... These “improvements” killed the spec. Bye Aleksey! /Stanley/
AT> it. So we either install the screw, or sit with the tyrdos. And the last one has long been approached to the ceiling
AT>.
When everyone had almost 100% compatibility, there were no problems. And then
off we went... "demands"...
LocalDate 28 Dec 03 - LocalTime 22:24
23 Dec 03 at 16:15, Vyacheslav Kalinin -=> Aleksey Tarasow regarding SI>>> this sounds nice to the ear. So it looks like there is no speck here. ))) You commented on Alexey Tarasov. ))) Bye Vyacheslav! /Stanley/
VK> There are many such players, they cost from $60.
LocalDate 28 Dec 03 - LocalTime 22:28
28 Dec 03 22:24, Stanley Ivanenko -> Aleksey Tarasow:
SI> A little off-topic, but I’ll say it anyway... It was with these “improvements” that the spec
SI> was killed. When everyone had almost 100% compatibility, there were no problems. And then we started... "demands"...
Completely wrong opinion. Did you ask former Speckie users (namely users, not programmers) why they switched to PC? No? Am I? And
in 100% of cases I heard about the small technical capabilities of the machine. People want to watch movies, their photos, listen to MP3s, etc. In short, everything that the majority here is against. A striking example, recently another seasoned specktrumist
bought himself a pisyuk, because for his work he needed a text editor with
vector fonts, he needed the ability to quickly prepare diagrams, tables,
graphs and embed them in a text file. Personally, I will most likely now do all major projects on a pussy. Why? I need a table processor to create complex subordinate tables, I need the ability to insert these tables into a text file, and by linking it with the original source, I need the ability to create maps, plans of the scale I need and easily change them (I use fotoshop for this). And I also need format compatibility, so that I can exchange files with others without any problems and without loss.people (let's say tell the teacher). Maybe it's a Speckie? No! Why? Because a small group of people
decided that the development of speckie was not necessary, that it would “kill” it. And as a result, he
cannot satisfy my (rather simple) requests (let's say 486 is enough for this). Now I only propose to catch up, better
late than never. And what I hear in response is an offer to give up on Speccy and
buy yourself a player. In this state of affairs, the moment will come when I
will have to throw the Speck on the shelf (to put it mildly, I am being strongly pushed to
this) and buy myself a pussy (I still only have the Pro!), because I
is brewing in my own cauldron without communication with the outside world, I have no desire.
SO>> More precisely, there was no smell of multicolor there. Only gigascreen -
SO>> mixing the contents of the regular and shadow screens to get
SO>> in one familiar place 4 colors (without this gadget on a regular Spectrum
SO>> you get an image flickering at a frequency of 25Hz).
VK> again 25, show me a Spectrum on which the gigascreen does not flicker, and
30 Dec 03 at 08:31, Aleksey Tarasow -=> Stanley Ivanenko regarding AT> users, not programmers), why did they switch to pisyuk? No? And I And you no. ))) AT> And in 100% of cases I heard about small technical capabilities In general, historically it was difficult to use spec for anything AT> scale and easy to change them (I use fotoshop for this). A Disgrace is spelled Photoshop. ) AT> I have no desire to cook in my own cauldron without communication with the outside world. You know, speck has always been more for the soul. ))) Well, for example, I often draw P.S. In general, it’s sad that from time to time erudite patriots P.S. HAPPY NEW YEAR, by the way. ))) Bye Aleksey! /Stanley/
AT> yes?
large and serious from the very beginning... Well, not from the very beginning, but since the year 91. )))
websites (Photoshop + Aditor + for testing Apache+Php+Perl+MySql+SqlLite), I also
draw printing master templates (Photoshop + CorelDraw + 3D Max + Xara X),
and I’m also one of the few shamans who do DVD authoring, DVD mastering
(Sonic Real DVD, DVD Scenarist, TMPG, Photoshop, Adobe Premier, Ulead
Videostudio, Pinnacle + MPEG2 codecs + DV codecs + MX Record Now! (to record DVD
))))) and I also admin and write a little programs for all sorts of small
needs (Visual Studio.NET, Delphi + BDE, Paradox, Oracle (!!!)) and in
free. time, without finding the strength to move forward in full force on the demoscene, write
all sorts ofscreensavers and musical cards for friends (Visual Studio.NET +
OpenGl + SoundForge + UPX + Photoshop + ModPlug Tracker), well, that's basically all. Tell us how IN PRINCIPLE you can get by with spec and approximately WHAT
software you could get by with. If the list of hardware is close to the description of a pissyuk, and the software is close to 10 years of development of the same off-topic, then only the most
patriotic person will be able to say that in work you can get by with specs, and a
more practical person will say that off-topic is for work, and spec is for the soul.
appear who, without studying the hardware, boldly assert things on a universal scale, and at the same time
argue with things from another area. (You need to look at things soberly, just as
Fido will not replace the Internet, and Spec will not be able to replace PC. If the element
base and other devices were free on Spec, then there are no questions, but with all the bells and whistles we will reach the average pussie. There are no golden nuggets,
evolutionary in economic terms, gw has taken its niche in the computer world, and
it cannot be said that it is unreasonable. But this does not mean that there is no place for speck,
on the contrary. Just don’t have any illusions about the subject area of application. Otherwise, speck can be used to prop up a bedside table, and as a model of a well-built music center, and as a fan.use, i.e. the scope of application is
unlimited, but I feel sorry for those people who will continue to use it, because
you need to understand HOW SPEC CAN BE USED AND APPROPRIATELY, and how not.
LocalDate 31 Dec 03 - LocalTime 18:31
VK> did you see this? What do you mean by "hardware modification"? not
VK> only flickerfixer flickers, Amizhniki will confirm this to you
Well, I saw it. And my friend Dimka Pugachev came up with this very gigaskrin. I assembled it second after him. It doesn't flicker. More precisely, it practically does not flicker.
WBR, Vladimir Berezenko AKA Q-Master q_mast...@mail.ru
ICQ #84695765
VB>
VB> Well, I saw it. And my friend Dimka Pugachev came up with this very gigaskrin
VB>. I assembled it second after him. It doesn't flicker. More precisely,
VB> practically does not flicker.
1. depends on the actual picture being depicted - take a picture with contrasting bitplanes, for example.
2. also depends on the inertia of the monitor.
3. and finally, it still flickers, which you agreed with;), so the essence
of the dispute is settled.
pokedova Vladimir
jtn\\4d
December 30, 2003 08:31, Aleksey Tarasow wrote to Stanley Ivanenko:
AT> things, the moment will come when I
AT> will have to throw the speck on the shelf (to put it mildly, I am being strongly
AT> pushed towards this) and buy myself a pussy (I still only have
AT> Pro!), because I’m boiling in my cauldron Without communication with the outside world,
AT> I have no desire.
Come on, kill yourself like that, I have a dog, but I don’t have a pro - although I wouldn’t
have it lying around, provided that I had a lot of software for it.
Bye Aleksey!
30 Dec 03 08:31, you wrote to Stanley Ivanenko:
AT> @MSGID: 2:5053/51.4@fidonet 3ff13e48
AT> @REPLY: 2:4615/8...@FIDOnet.org 3fef5843
AT> @PID: GED 3.0.b2 UNREG
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AT> @CHRS: IBMPC 2
AT> @TID: FastEcho 1.46.1 948734453
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AT> (to put it mildly, they are pushing me hard to do this) and buy myself a pussy
AT> (I still only have Pro!), because I’m stewing in my cauldron
AT> without communication with the outside world I have desires no.
um... why are the kluges so strange, obviously pissy? :)
. __ __| ___ __ __ ___ |_
|__)_ | ) (__| (__/_ | ' | ) (__/_ | , [80`s]
AT> and not programmers), why did they switch to pisyuk? No? Am I? And in 100%
AT> cases
AT> I heard about the small technical capabilities of the machine. People want
AT> to watch films,
AT> their photos, listen to MP3, etc. In short, everything that the majority here
AT> is against.
So in any case, all this was easier and will be done on PC.
AT> A striking example, recently another seasoned specktrumist bought himself a pisyuk,
AT> because
AT> to work he needs a text editor with vector fonts, he needs
AT> the ability
AT> to quickly prepare diagrams, tables, graphs and implement them in text file.
AT> Personally
AT> I will most likely now do all major projects on a PC. Why?
AT> I need
AT> a table processor to create complex subordinate tables, I need
AT> the ability
AT> to insert these tables into a text file, and link them to the original source,
AT> I need
31 Dec 03 18:31, Stanley Ivanenko -> Aleksey Tarasow:
SI> account and that’s it. Tell us how IN PRINCIPLE you can get by with spec and approximately
SI> WHAT software you could get by with. If the list of hardware is
SI> close to the description of a wrench, and the software is close to 10 years of development of the same
SI> offtopic, then only the most patriotic person will be able to claim
SI> that in work you can get by with speck, and a more practical person will say
SI> that offtopic is for work, and spec for the soul.
Whoever cares. I have had a Speck for 10 years just for WORK!!! And while
others shout that it is impossible, I take it and work. Maybe that's enough? Aren't you tired? If speckie is for your soul, then you don’t need to adjust everyone to your standards. Here is a list of software that I use (the names may be wrong): TR
DOS, CP/M, IS DOS (rarely), Conver commander (tr), Hop Commander (cpm), Write 3
(cpm), LEXPrint (cpm), English-Russian translators 2 pieces (cpm), BGE (tr), TURBO
Pascal 3.0 (cpm), Convector MS-TR (tr), Best View (tr), Sound Editor (tr),
STS (tr), ZXASM (tr), XAS (tr), M80+ (cpm), several printers for CP/M, and
morrrrreeee other software I don’t want to remember everything. YOU CAN WORK WITH SPECKI.
I have already proven this for myself a long time ago; I have not the slightest desire to prove it to you or anyone else. All coursework (except two) were done on it, it was
2 programs for pisyuk have been written, a number of documents have been prepared. Perhaps that's enough.
SI> P.S. In general, it’s sad that from time to time erudite
SI> patriots appear who don’t study materiel
personally, I just take it and do it. And ordinary people who are not burdened with knowledge
of a computer do not distinguish my works from works done on a computer.
SI> they boldly assert things on a universal scale,
Indicate at least one such thing.
SI> and at the same time they argue with things from another area.
Give an example. Even if not so, then such “naive” examples, experts
like you cannot refute.
SI> ( You need to look at things soberly, as Fido will not replace the Internet,
It will replace it in 80%. If you do not chase fashion, but proceed from REAL needs,
then Fido technologies can be successfully used in commercial enterprises and
will be cheaper. Example: it replaces me exactly by 80%.
SI> and the speck will not be able to replace the PC. If the element base and other
SI> devices were free on the spec, then there are no questions,
That is, “if the element base and other devices on the spec were
free,” then the speck would be able to replace the pisyuk, in one sentence? You
contradict yourself.
SI> and with all the bells and whistles, let’s get to the average pussy.
SI> There are no golden nuggets, evolutionary in economic terms gw
SI> has taken its niche in the computer world, and it cannot be said that
SI> is unreasonable.
SI> But this does not mean that there is no place for speculators, on the contrary. Just don't have
SI> illusions about the subject area of application.
And I don't. I just don’t want my Speckie to share the same table with a pussy. There's no room for two tables in my room. And if I can get it for 3-5000 rubles
I see no reason why I should put up with the pussy. Moreover, I don’t see any reason why
I should invest this money in a pisyuk if I DON’T WANT IT!
SI> Otherwise, you can prop up a bedside table with speck, and use it as a model
SI> of a well-tuned music center and use it as a fan
SI>, i.e. the scope of application is unlimited, but I feel sorry for those
SI> people who will continue to use it,
And I feel sorry for those who consider the pussy to be the navel of the Earth. And this is what he looks like from yours.
SI> because. you need to understand HOW SPEC IS POSSIBLE AND APPROPRIATE TO APPLY, and how
SI> not.
Do you understand this??? Who are you Sklifosovsky or Rodin? Or maybe you are Socrates or
King Solomon? Why did you decide that you have the right to tell others how to
live, what they need to work on. Would you like to tell me how to breathe?
SI> P.S. HAPPY NEW YEAR, by the way. )))
Judging by everything, there really are almost no spektrumists left. :((( Bad gift
for Newгод.
Honestly, no. :) But I wanted to install it for myself for a while, while I’m thinking.
VK> what do you mean by “hardware modification”?
I have a file with the GIGASCREEN modification on my fax server. From the description it follows
after turning it on that this is a hardware flasher for the screens.
VK> only the flickerfixer does not flicker, the Amizhniki will confirm this to you
What is this? Can you provide more details?
SI>> specced and killed. When everyone had almost 100% compatibility,
SI>> there were no problems. And then we started... “demands”...
AT> This is a completely wrong opinion. Did you ask former Speckie users (namely
AT> users, not programmers) why they switched to PC? No? A
AT> am I right? And in 100% of cases I heard about the small technical capabilities of the AT machine. People want to watch films, their photos, listen to MP3, etc.
On the other hand, if you look at this problem, then you can completely forget about everything.
Three years ago everything was limited to just listening to MP3 and watching
zhpreg, now pmeg4 has been added here, then horseradish2005 will be added, then
repizdek2006, and then what? the thread is terrible, and everyone will want to watch it on the good old Speckie from 1982. Don't you feel embarrassed yourself??*?:???
People, cut down the sturgeon. Of course, I wish everyone a Happy New Year, but April 1st
is still far away.
So, happy New Year everyone, I’ve been drinking to you all for 4 days already, see you all at Cafe2004,
so hello everyone!!! Happy New Year!
Greetings to everyone from the city starting with the letter “Y”!!!!
AT> In short, everything that the majority here is against. A striking example,
AT> recently another seasoned specktrumist bought himself a pisyuk, because
AT> for
AT> work he needed a text editor with vector fonts, heI need
to take care of him. Although, to tell the truth, there is no real vector editor...
AT> the ability to quickly prepare diagrams, tables, graphs and embed them into a
AT> text file. Personally, most likely I will now
AT> do all major projects on a computer. Why? I need a table processor to create
And no one thought about where the sturgeon is swimming....
Doesn’t remind you of anything :)
AT> complex subordinate tables, I need the ability to insert these tables
AT> into a
AT> text file, and linking it with the original source, I need
Hmmm. And the whore-astronaut for you.... I've already heard this somewhere...
AT> the ability to create maps, plans of the scale I need and easily change them
AT> (I use fotoshop for this). And I also need
A.... I’m silent, I’m silent...
AT> compatibility of formats, so that without hemorrhoids and without losses,
AT> can exchange files with other people (let’s say, give it to the teacher). Maybe
AT> it's a Speckie? No! Why? Because a small group of people decided
AT> that the development of the Speckie is not necessary, that it is its “gubid”. And as a result, it
AT> cannot satisfy my (rather simple) requests (say 486 for
AT> is enough for the eyes). Now I only propose to catch up
Let them customize the sturgeon to their needs...
In the current version, the fish is cut to 600hemp. 486 are marching in formation through the forest to the steppe to dig trenches, plant cucumbers and pick watermelons.
Who will open the mitten about 200 penta mmh will dig three times more
for neh... The smart guys are already fed up.
No, people, of course I apologize, because I can catch up with a lot of blizzards when I’m drunk, but Mongo
garbage I'm not talking, so I'm at peace... Happy Holidays to everyone!
AT> missed, better late than never. And what I hear in response is
AT> an offer to give up on Speccy and buy myself a player. In this situation
No, well, you also need to know when to stop, we’re not offering you a cool
car in a mixture of Belarus + Superspec for the place of a vacuum cleaner, every thing has its place. We have to admit and
come to terms with.
AT> things, there will come a time when I will have to throw the speck on the shelf
AT> (to put it mildly, they are pushing me hard to do this) and buy myself a
AT> pussy
AT> (I still only have Pro!), because I’m brewing in my own cauldron
Yes, in principle6 it doesn’t matter what you come out here for, everyone has their own needs,
you understand... I don’t really want to offend anyone, but still, people, dreams aside, flies aside, cutlets separately, I’ll ask....
AT> I have no desire without communication with the outside world.
Well, that’s just SSZB.
Once again, happy holidays to everyone!
AT> Sincerely, Alexey.
Bye, Aleksey!
Arc/exRLDG
VK>> only flickerfixer does not flicker, the Amizhniki will confirm this to you
VB> Well, I saw it. And my friend Dimka Pugachev came up with this very gigaskrin
VB>. I assembled it second after him. It doesn't flicker. More precisely,
VB> practically does not flicker.
Everything in the world is relative.
More precisely, it depends on the monitor. We have enough, God willing, so...
PS: Sorry for the letters, I'm drunk...
Bye, Vladimir!
Arc/exRLDG
AT> Will replace it in 80%.
But for this they hit you in the face with a beer mug. ))) It won’t replace, there was something more than just meetings on sysops and something more than communication in correspondence. Many
may argue that this is the case on the Internet, both in chat rooms and, for example, in LJ. But as the admin of one Lugansk chat, hanging out in it for about 3 years and a confident LJ user, I can say on my own behalf, in Fido everything was somehow more honest, open and pleasant. I don't want to say that I don't like using ICQ, surfing the pages and using IRC, no. It’s just that Fido was left for the soul, but
he could, like some people, stupidly pull out news from the internet. Of course, in this case, Fido does not cease to be Fido, but we still want everything to be as always. )
(The main thing is that you won’t think that I’m connecting a tape recorder to the emulator. ))) Although when
the program is in .TAP .TZX, I don’t turn off the sounds. ))) )
AT> enterprises and will be cheaper. Example: for me it is replaced by
AT> 80%.
Your truth, but I’m talking a little about something else.
AT> with freebies, can a speck replace a pisyuk? Sorry, in one sentence,
AT> You are contradicting yourself.
No contradiction. I’m writing here for one friend hackwork for artmels. And now
now this microcontroller is already like half a computer. (Well, think about it, memory, com port,
USB and a few other things with a percentage in one little thing.) AndNow, on the basis of such a pair of microchips, it is already possible to assemble something computer-like. In general, I had a fantasy to find a larger color screen and make a “pocket Spectrum”. ) This of course does not
mean that we here at R4615 have changed our minds about buying the GP32, but there is always room for
developing the necessary devices with our own hands.
AT> But I don’t. I just don’t want my speckie to share the same table with
AT> pussy. And there’s no room in my room for two tables.
Ah... So this is the housing issue...))) Well, come to R4615, here apartments
are getting cheaper again. )
AT> I don’t see any reason why I should invest this money in a pussy if I DON’T WANT IT!
And here again, without reason, I won’t do this because I don’t want to! But I don’t want to because it’s April 2nd. And April 2 because according to the download. Let's discuss
everything in the style of Kant's life dogmas and using only basic logic, otherwise there is polemics. but there is no point.
AT> And I feel sorry for those who consider the pussy to be the navel of the Earth. And it looks like yours
AT>.
No, why, they also say the Apple Macintosh is a good thing, I see it in every 2 movies
(especially laptops), it’s a pity that I only see them in movies. ))) Do you believe in all sorts of nonsense that you study in high school? Look at the statistics on sales of the puss and the production of COMPONENTS for it, and then distribution, dispersion, etc.
Well, you know. I hope the NUMBERS will convince you.
AT>how they need to live, what they need to work on. Do you want to tell me how to
AT> breathe?
3 higher educations are talking about something? Do you have that much? And I am not pointing out, but merely challenging “dubious truths.” Do you think I'm trying
to win you over to my side? No, you will do it yourself, if you see
a contradiction in your words, if you don’t see it, you will remain with your opinion.
You see, it’s good anyway. )
AT> Apparently there are really almost no spektrumists left. :((( Bad
AT> gift for the New Year.
What's left is what's left. I have 3 friends looking for a board from the Pentagon, but I still can't find
EGA monitor. (
Bye Aleksey! /Stanley/
LocalDate 03 Jan 04 - LocalTime 09:33
AT> And I feel sorry for those who consider the pussy to be the navel of the Earth. And he looks like yours
AT>.
But unfortunately, the vast majority of computer scientists think so, and among them
there are smart, experienced ones who have passed not only Spec, but also BKshki
and Amiga. I myself, of course, do not consider PC the navel of the earth, but due to its
popularity, I am mastering it. (Unfortunately, my “Quorum” is covered with a copper
basin, and you won’t find any pieces of iron ready to take on its repair during the day.
)
Well, what should I tell my cockroaches?
Waiting for an answer, Sergey Popov.
POPOVS...@rambler.ru
Winamp asked to shut up ;-)
03 Jan 04 09:33, you wrote to Aleksey Tarasow:
SI> By whom? Abstract compositor? Development of microdevices based on Z80?
SI> Mobile phone seller? )))
By the way, there’s not much you can do about the spec papers! At our academy, we introduced rules
like:
1) Letter size is 14.
2) The distance between lines is 1.5 letter sizes.
Vladimir
AT> Completely incorrect opinion. Did you ask former Speckie users (namely
AT> users, not programmers) why they switched to PC? No?
AT> Am I yes? And in 100% of cases I heard about the small technical capabilities of the
AT> machine.
Nonsense. I don't need opportunities, but very specific solutions to very specific problems. It doesn't matter what kind of car it is, as long as it fits under the table. So, in the Spectrum, first of all,
there is no necessary software. Of course, this is due to the technical capabilities of the machine. But the conclusion that they say there are not enough
ONLY technical capabilities is fundamentally wrong. If now (or then
10 years ago) these opportunities are given, then nothing will change.
AT> the majority is speaking out here. A striking example, recently another seasoned
AT> specktrumist
AT> bought himself a pisyuk, because to work he needs a text editor with
AT> vector fonts, he needs the ability to quickly prepare diagrams,
AT> tables,
AT> graphs and embed them in a text file.
And he has no other choice. Let's imagine that there is the necessary software
for the Spectrum. Would you dare to use it? I don't.
AT> And I also need compatibility of formats, so that without hemorrhoids and without
AT> losses I can exchange files with other people
This is the key point.It would be necessary to transfer "Pisyukov's" (I'm not talking about Windows) programs to the Spectrum. Although, in fact, they have long been no longer made by Piyukov, but simply for computers, and the Spectrum has remained
on the sidelines And because of technical capabilities, And a huge amount of work is needed that no one would ever finance - Spectrums have already disappeared from store shelves in the mid-90s, but “in every supermarket you can buy a pisyuk.”
AT> convey). Maybe it's a Speckie? No! Why? Because a small group
AT> of people decided that the development of speckies was not necessary, that it was “killing” it.
What profound conclusions! So SI, me and a couple of other pisishniks have ruined the Spectrum! They literally held the hands of others and did not allow them to port
GNU to the Spectrum...
AT> it's late than never. And what I hear in response is an offer to forget about Speccy and
AT> buy yourself a player. In this state of affairs, the moment will come when I
AT> will have to throw the speck on the shelf (to put it mildly, I am being strongly pushed
AT> to
AT> this) and buy myself a pisyuk (I still only have Pro!), because
AT> I
AT> is boiling in my own cauldron without communication with the outside world, I have no desire.
I will reveal a terrible secret hidden by everyone without exception. by compulsive emulators: for practical purposes, using the Spectrum does not make any sense. He justfor nostalgia. But if you don’t write about this to everyone, they’ll call you an exile...
On Thu, 01 Jan 04 21:34:05 +0300, Vladimir Berezenko wrote:
VB> Well, I saw that. And my friend Dimka Pugachev came up with this very gigaskrin.
VB> I assembled it
VB> second after him. It doesn't flicker. More precisely, it practically does not flicker.
This statement is absurd. It flickers exactly the same as when simply switching screens. It's just not that noticeable.
KF> What profound conclusions! So SI, me and a couple of other pisishniks ruined the
KF> Spectrum! They literally held the hands of others and did not allow them to port
KF> GNU to the Spectrum...
Why I love KF is because in 90% of cases I agree with him. ))) It’s especially sad that we started this destructive action a long time ago, but now we have this pathetic cataclysm. ) GubiD speck is not a wimp, GubiD speck is our reluctance to port
software and make it cross-platform. )
P.S. Kirill, I’ve been lost here for a long time, somehow someone threw out the idea of
Linux on spec, has it died down?
Bye Kirill! /Stanley/
LocalDate 04 Jan 04 - LocalTime 10:05
AT>
AT> What is it? Can you be more specific?
In fact, this is connected with connecting devices that have standard TV
scan to monitors that do not support it, that is, vga/svga, but the essence
is the same. Here is an excerpt from ru.amiga.faq:
Q. What are scandoubler, syncdoubler, flickerfixer and how do they differ?
A. Scandoubler doubles the TV lines, instead of one line with a TV frequency, it
plays two lines with a VGA frequency. As a result, TV modes without interlace
will be visible on a (S)VGA monitor very similar to DblPAL modes. Interlace
modes will still flicker. Such a device costs about $100.
Flickerfixer, unlike the scandabilizer, has a buffer for the entire frame, and this
allows you to make PAL modes a complete analogue of DblPAL. Interlace is completely
removed. Costs more than Scandable. It is one of the components of the A3000.
Syncdoubler - the simplest circuit with a cost of $1-2, the circuit is available
on Aminet. Allows you to see a distorted PAL image on the (S)VGA screen, and
is useful in some cases (for example, if you need to access the menu using
two mouse buttons). Almost unsuitable for games/demo.
Pokédova Aleksey
jtn\\4d
On Sunday January 04 2004 Kirill Frolov wrote to Aleksey Tarasow:
AT>> I have no desire to communicate with the outside world.
KF> I’ll reveal a terrible secret hidden by all
KF> emulators without exception: for practical purposes, using
KF> Spectrum does not make any sense. It's just for nostalgia. But
KF> you won’t write about this loudly, they’ll call you an exile...
I even know who.
Ps: Quarreling, Kirill, I couldn’t restrain myself :)))))))
All the exiles from HG!
Bye, Kirill!
Arc/exRLDG
AT>> (users, not programmers), why did they switch to
AT>> pisyuk? No? Am I? And in 100% of cases I heard about the small
AT>> technical capabilities of the machine. People want to watch films, their
AT>> photos, listen to MP3, etc.
AA> On the other hand, if you look at this problem, then you can completely forget about
AA> everything. Three years ago, everything was limited to just listening to
AA> mp3 and watching jpreg, now pmeg4 has been added here, then
AA> horseradish2005 will be added, then repizdek2006, and then something terrible
AA>, and all this will want to watch on the good old Speckie release
AA> 1982. Don't you find it funny yourself??*?:???
My Profik was created in 1995, and assembled in 1999. Is there a car from 1982 somewhere? I understand everything, but I think that the underlying stone will not allow water to flow. If you adhere to the policy of the majority, then it is indeed easier to score. Here I agree with you.
AA> People, cut down the sturgeon. Of course, I wish everyone a Happy New Year, but
AA> April 1 is still far away.
Will you laugh for a long time if you still manage to play mpg4, or in the end avi
on Speccy? Well, we’ve already learned how to play our own video format.
SP> Unfortunately, the vast majority of computer scientists think so,
Correction: the gray majority, the crowd in other words, thinks so. Which
is at the mercy of advertising and its own dullness.
SP> and among them there are smart, experienced ones who have passed not only
SP> Spec, but also BKshki and Amiga.
I don’t know, many with whom I spoke speak negatively about the pussy, and
work on it mainly because of the money and the lack of a real alternative.
SP> I myself, of course I don’t consider PC the navel of the earth, but due to its popularity, I’m mastering it. (Unfortunately, my “Quorum” is covered
SP> with a copper basin, and you won’t find any pieces of iron ready to take on its repairs during the day with
SP> fire. )
I also have to study the pussy (you need to know the enemy by sight :). I don't think
this is shameful, but rather a very useful thing.
AT>> experts like you can’t refute.
SI> Oh... Not “examples”, but “examples”... Let’s write at least a little more competently
SI>,
I apologize for the mistakes, but I can’t do it any other way.
SI> and don’t go overboard, we’re here although we are ory, but nevertheless
SI> nevertheless we are in the same sandbox. ) And the path to the truth is always thorny.
I admit, I went too far.
SI> And in the context of this part of my answer, I meant that you should
SI> write more reasoned. If you have enough
SI> spec to complete coursework, this does not mean that everyone makes a living from this, and as you yourself
SI> said, “one size does not fit everyone.”
That’s what I’m talking about.
SI> And in general, conduct a survey of who uses spec in their professional activities
SI>. Let's cry together over the results.
We also need to conduct a survey about the programs these people use in
their professional activities. Conduct research to see if there are similar
programs for speckies, and whether it is theoretically possible to write them. Only in this case
can we talk about some specific data. And then you say, this Specky can’t do it, and in 90% of cases this means there is no similar program on the Specky written by another person. And since everything here is stolen, everyone uses stolen programs for pussy(including me). In this case, it is worth entering into the survey the price
of the licensed software, and the possible cost of developing
a similar program for Speccy.
On Fri, 26 Dec 03 19:00:50 +0300, Alexey Kravchenko wrote:
AT>> Multicolored ones sit on the sides of the chicken, in the center a multicolored hare
AT>> jumps, and the same multicolored eggs fall. And in the text of the magazine
AK> I saw this toy, we wrote our kooleggz to spite them, IMHO it’s cooler
AK> it turned out
On Thu, 25 Dec 03 21:59:52 +0300, Vadik Akimoff wrote:
VK>> You're laughing in vain. For a bitrate of 128 kbit, the incoming stream speed is something
VK>> about 16 kbytes/sec. This is half the speed of the drive.
VA> Sometimes it’s 320 kbit, by the way.
VK>> The sound is obviously 16-bit stereo.
VA> The sound doesn’t matter what it is - push it into the DAC decoder yourself
VA> will be
VA> :)
VK>> The only BUT - I heard somewhere that the data needs to be pushed into
VK>> serial form, and this is already oh.
VA> Exactly.
VK>> Although, there are probably hardware decoders with an 8-bit bus.
VA> I don’t know. Everything I saw (in datasheets) is with a serial bus.
555ИР16
On Mon, 22 Dec 03 21:52:24 +0300, Stanley Ivanenko wrote:
SI> Well, yes, can you tell me more about the “minimum body weight”? Here I can trump
SI> by
SI> that in 4615 I made the first mp3 player on an Artmel controller connected to a
SI> laptop
^^^^^^^^^^^^
SI> screw. So, the mp3 decoder was SOFTWARE, of course with
^^^^^^^^^^^^
What kind of controller?
SI> Sony is leaving the market on weak legs, Panasonic is nervously smoking in the toilet,
Made in China. The rest is not important.
SI> yes modifications of Covox. And now my last unfulfilled dream is GS. And
SI> now
SI> now I looked at the list of games that are adapted for GS... I wouldn’t have taken it for nothing.
SI> Do you feel where the wind is blowing? Another little-in-demand craft.
And there are many such games, relatively many. The craft is not in low demand,
it just doesn’t need to be compared to a pussy. There is no mass appeal here.
AT>> Let's say the role of the computer on 3D cards in the output graphics is not that
SI> Excuse me, but so far in the PC and mpeg4 the stream and mp3 decoding is done in a hardware manner
Software. Both divx and mp3. In Linux, on the text console, the movie
shows (from letters and numbers).
On Fri, 26 Dec 03 00:15:24 +0300, Aleksey Tarasow wrote:
AT>>>> Let's round up to 1000 rubles - where will you find an MP3 player for these
OG>> I saw an mp3 CD player in a store for 1600 and a penny.
AT> 900 rubles is worth the SDROM for computer (although you can get it for 700, but I don’t recommend AT). In
AT> in any case you find yourself tied to the CD disk, you can’t erase the old one, nor
Buy yourself a pussy. You will burn discs for the player on it.
OG>> 1) Few people can do this themselves.
AT> Well, I can solder “3 microcircuits” (as a last resort), and I’ll order the board from
AT> aunt
AT> at the factory, or I’ll do it using the technology described in Paragraph 18.
Do you know in which cases modern microcircuits are produced?
You don’t see one like this everywhere they will make the board, but LUT (laser-iron technology)
is generally of little use for this. And the board still needs to be routed correctly.
OG>> 2) Who wants (among those who can) do this?
AT> Wants to create a prototype?
Nobody in their right mind will just want to do that. Because in any stall you can buy a Chinese player for very little. If you tear away everything unnecessary from it, and screw the decoder itself to the Spectrum - and you will have an MP3 player. Competing with China and doing something yourself
doesn’t make any sense.
OG>> 3) Who will write the software?
AT> For myself, I’ll write a player myself. IfI’ll share it with anyone who needs it.
I don’t think so. Moreover, if we talk about software
decoding mpeg-1 layer 3.
OG>> 4) Where can I get users of this device?
AT> There is already one. Me (at a device price of 1000-1500 rubles). IMHO there will be a prototype
AT> there will be
AT> and others who want it.
THERE WILL NOT BE THE SUCH PRICE. For this price, only a ready-made player from the nearest
stall.
OG>> So we read the list first, taking into account only the ide
OG>> users who will become? scratch in this direction.
On Sunday, January 04, 2004, at 01:44 Vladimir Karpenko and Stanley Ivanenko
discussed "mp3 on ZX". Let's continue the conversation.
VK> By the way, there's not much you can do about abstracts on spec! At our academy we introduced
VK> rules like: 1) The size of the letters is 14. 2) The distance between lines is 1.5
VK> the size of the letters.
This, IMHO, is like this everywhere, including here at the Polytechnic. And when I was studying as a technician, I did my abstracts, coursework and
even a diploma using spec with robotronchik, because
there was nothing else at hand :) I typed the text in ACE, and then converted
I don’t_remember_what_program into its format and printed it. It came out in 14 font and 1.5 spacing! But it was printed very slowly, because it was in graphics. :)
By the way, there is a program (again I forgot the name, but it was written here in Voronezh),
to which you submit text from TLW as input, and it shows on the screen how it will
look on A4 (like in Word on the PC), and it prints the thing. But the most important thing is that it was possible to create complex formulas with curly brackets, mathematical and chemical symbols, etc. (for this purpose, the necessary control codes were inserted into TLW in the source text).
That’s all for me. Bye, Vladimir.
AAL> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AAL> hmm... why are such kludges strange, obviously pissy? :)
Golded was ported to CP/M. Didn't you know?
VK>> introduced rules like: 1) The size of the letters is 14. 2) The distance between
VK>> lines is 1.5 the size of the letters.
RT> This, IMHO, is like this everywhere, including here at the Polytechnic. And I did essays,
RT> coursework and even a diploma when I was studying in a technical department on spec
RT> with a robotron, because there was nothing else at hand :) I typed the text
RT> in ACE, and then converted I don’t_remember_what_program into its format and printed it.
RT> It came out in just 14 font and 1.5 spacing! But it was printed
RT> very slowly, because it was on schedule. :)
Is it hard to remember?
RT> By the way, there is a program (again I forgot the name, but it was written here in
RT> Voronezh), to which you feed text from TLW as input, and it shows on the
RT> screen how it will look on A4 (like in Word on the PC), and
RT> prints this thing. But the most important thing is that it was possible to create complex
RT> formulas with curly brackets, mathematical and chemical symbols, and
RT> etc. (for this purpose, the necessary control
RT> codes were inserted into the source text in TLW).
I would tear this program off with my arms and legs.
Vladimir
[I ZX] [Sprinter Developer]
[Sprinter UNofficial site: cr0acker.narod.ru]
VK> By the way, there’s not much you can do about the specs! At our academy
VK> we introduced rules like: 1) The size of the letters is 14. 2) The distance between the lines is 1.5
VK> the size of the letters.
Well, I did one and a half line spacing easily in my time - ESC command
to the printer and that’s it.
But I’m not sure about the size, but you can also get out of it :)
Aleksandr
04 Jan 04 at 01:44, Vladimir Karpenko -=> Stanley Ivanenko regarding SI>> Mobile phone seller? ))) Well, this is not for me, AT needs to say this. ) Bye Vladimir! /Stanley/
VK> By the way, there’s not much you can do about abstracts on spec! At our academy we introduced
VK> rules like: 1) The size of the letters is 14. 2) The distance between the lines is 1.5 size
VK> letters.
LocalDate 07 Jan 04 - LocalTime 20:45
This is a typewriter standard. In a normal printer, without any
graphics, fonts, spacing, and everything else can be adjusted.
From matrix printers, the LQ-100 can (insert a sheet of paper and when turning it on, hold
one of the buttons - you will get to the settings menu).
RT> look on A4 (like in Word on a PC), and it prints this thing. But the most important thing is that it was possible to create complex formulas with curly brackets, mathematical and chemical symbols, etc. (for this, the necessary control codes were inserted into TLW in the source
RT> text
RT>).
Well, just some kind of TeX...
05-Jan-04 at 23:08:26, Aleksey Tarasow and Sergey Popov were talking
about: mp3 on ZX.
SP>> Unfortunately, the vast majority of computer scientists think so,
AT> Correction: the gray majority, the crowd in other words, thinks so. Which
AT> is at the mercy of advertising and its own dullness
I wouldn’t say. You, IMHO, are even more blinkered in ZX than I was 3 years ago,
now I think that PC is more optimal for production/business than
ZX, and ZX for the soul.
VK> By the way, there’s not much you can do about the specs! At our academy we introduced
VK> rules like: 1) The size of the letters is 14. 2) The distance between lines is 1.5
VK> the size of the letters.
I apologize, of course, for interrupting... But there is a program Print FX, which prints
with a font the size of a typewriter, it seems even with intervals.
All the best.
Vladimir.
VK>>> The only BUT - I heard somewhere that data should be pushed in
VK>>> serial form, and this is already oh.
VA>> Exactly.
VK>>> Although, there are probably hardware decoders with an 8-bit bus.
VA>> I don’t know. Everything I saw (in datasheets) was with a serial bus.
05 Jan 04 at 22:52, Aleksey Tarasow -=> Alexander Araktcheew regarding AT> My Profik was created in 1995, and assembled in 1999. There is either a mistake, or my profik was already assembled in 1994. ) AT> Is there a car from 1982 somewhere? Well? For example, remember that the owners of Pentagon did not share the optimism of Profi AT> sticking to the policy of the majority, it is really easier to kill. There is no need to “kill”, but there is also no need to produce obviously stupid devices. Speck will keep up with pushing the data into the mp3 decoder, which will play on the final audio system, without the help of Speck, so are you going to use Speck as a transmitter (forgive the pun)? It's even sad. Now, if you could decode it like a thread, yes, this was the thing. ) AT> You will laugh for a long time if you still manage to play mpg4, or in the end OOOOOO! I remembered! This is Dendi! Folks, remember how Dendi was connected to the spec and what role the spec played. Or as storage or as low-level memory that supplied the program. That's what this idea reminds me of! Benefits fromThis
users regarding CP/M, for example. Those. for them it was of no use.
And everything created for the 128 machine was spinning on both computers.
AT> Here I agree with you.
AT> avi on spec? Well, we’ve already learned how to play our own video format.
device was almost gone, and it died out quickly. This is how it will end, that we will attach a thread to (instead of?) ULA, which will display some kind of crap on the screen, and everyone will proudly shout that “now the Spectrum shows avi”. I propose to Yudin/Shalaev and the comrades who made my favorite Unreal and ZXMak to remake the emulators so that they can play videos. You can immediately start yelling that “Spectrum shows video”! ))) And mind you, the bells and whistles will be software. )
05 Jan 04 at 23:08, Aleksey Tarasow -=> Sergey Popov regarding AT> Correction: the gray majority, the crowd in other words, thinks so. Which A lot of big words. As far as I remember, you are not yet a generally recognized expert on all platforms to make epithets with such maximalism. I’m fine, AT> I don’t know, many people I talked to speak negatively about the pisyuk, and Exactly. And so when there is no alternative, there is not the most successful platform that you wanted, then you need to adapt. But don’t give up everything that’s behind you under the slogan “it’s no longer fashionable.” And in general, first names and surnames right away. ))) And AT> I also have to study the PC (you need to know the enemy by sight :). I don't Well, emulators generally rule. You can save $20 on general sound. ))) 2 All: People, I continue to want a real Spectrum. ))) And, if possible, at a price Bye Aleksey! /Stanley/
AT> is at the mercy of advertising and its own dullness.
but other offtopic people may be offended. Man is a social animal
(Don’t strain your memory, Kant said), and society is society, unity. Here I am, still sitting on the platform which represents the majority. I have no problems either
with the software or with resolving issues.
AT> work on it mainly because of the money and the lack of a real
AT> alternative.
more branded. ) Here is Slava Mednonogov, he’s been on the offtopic for a long time, but how many games have he made on it? Young. If I'm not mistaken, then UFO was already compiled on PC on a cross-compiler.
AT> think soshameful, but rather a very useful thing.
lower than offtopic. And if there’s also an EGA monitor in the attic, that’s it. ) With
answers in soap.
LocalDate 08 Jan 04 - LocalTime 23:46
05 Jan 04 at 23:16, Aleksey Tarasow -=> Stanley Ivanenko regarding AT> car ride. I also have a computer at work, but that doesn’t mean anything Well, tell me, what kind of soul-searching work have you been doing for 10 years? AT> I work in these programs, and I see their name completely well if once every I just can’t comment on this... I also often work with my phone and AT> I have a PROFI - Spectrum compatible machine at home. I have an offtopic at work, with an emulator (i.e. software, without hardware modifications) - AT> What the hell? The task was to minimize system requirements. Tell No, of course. I won’t even find people who will ask me, as a programmer, to write a program for their 286/386. Stop! Well, maybe a museum guard... ) AT> No... But mine will be. And it will go onto a floppy disk with all the data, and there will still be some space left. And they have to work on the state farm “20 years without a harvest” Well, yes. ) Only now such terrible words among the people are like, database, AT> Are you a land manager? No? You simply don’t have a knowledge base not on the subject, not A phrase like “I’m right because I’m right”, would you give an argument or something. I AT> I have no idea, because... I don’t understand at all the area that you You’re right, to be honest, I have no idea what it is. But probably just some kind of calculations are important there, without GUI, graphics, animation, databases, web and AT> I apologize for the mistakes, but I can’t do it any other way. Yes, when I quickly write a portaco. ))) Now I was counting with horror my mistakes in AT> And you also need to conduct a survey about thoseprograms that these people Impossible! Hardware is weak. We change the spec percentage (to a faster one), install screw AT> they use stolen programs for pussy (including me). B Wrong! I don’t make money like French programmers, but I’d buy Windows for $100, Photoshop for $700, and all sorts of small software at once. I'm being forced to use pirated software! But even by doing this, I bring benefits to manufacturing companies. AT> I have never been in the chat or in the ask. Well, I’m going to install the ask, but So I was like, “I don’t need this, there’s no need for this, and this is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa disgusting thing,”
AT>.
AT> month.
a couple of times a month I fully see its number. (
PROFI compatible machine.
AT> your program with windows, etc. will work on 286, 386 mishins?
AT> where the BC is an extremely powerful machine.
transaction, client/server, data synchronization, etc. ) Of course
irrelevant for the farm, but I’m still on yoursIf I were to reconsider the field of activity, today on state farms they don’t give anything except last year’s potatoes for work. )
AT> on existing software products.
wrote that you can write a bunch of course students without a computer, but write this. Instead of
programming, compiling and making it work. Read the context and not the last
two sentences.
AT> indicated. Just like you don’t understand land management and land
AT> cadastre.
other things. Those. Formally, this is something that BC can handle, but it’s sad to hear about it. You should at least indicate what exactly you will program, maybe there really is enough for your needs, but the majority of people do not deal with these land things as a fact.
previous letters. It is necessary to install which thread of the program for real-time testing
install.
AT> use in their professional activities. Conduct research, and
AT> if such programs are for speckies, and whether it is theoretically possible to write them.
and CD, expand the graphic area, change a bunch of other things and...
1. This is no longer baked goods, but a box from it.
2. A weak offtopic will cost less.
and then it dragged on...
RT>> But the most important thing is that it was possible to create complex formulas with
RT>> curly brackets, mathematical and chemical symbols, etc.
RT>> (for this, the necessary control
RT>> codes were inserted into TLW in the source text).
KF> Well, just some kind of TeX...
In general, after a long rummage through Speck’s disks, I found them! It's called "NLQlx
Print". And that program that prints in 14th font with an interval of 1.5 is called
"FX Print". Both programs were on the same distribution disk along with docks and
TLW editor with a table of control codes configured for NLQlx. At one time, for FX I wrote a printer driver for myself, but in NLQlx it is located in the body of the program, so I was never able to use it. :(
The ZIP archive with the SCL image of all this weighs 240 KB. If you need it, write where,
I’ll send it.
That’s all for me. Bye, Kirill.
On Thu, 08 Jan 04 22:07:30 +0300, Vadik Akimoff wrote:
KF>> 555ИР16
VA> No, what the heck. Better than pic16f877. The one with parallel-slave. Which can also
VA> drive the decoder via i2c (another serial interface). And you never know what
VA> more.
You never know what - screw on 64MB of memory and throw away the Spectrum?
VA>> can also control the decoder via i2c (another serial
VA>> interface). And you never know what else.
KF> You never know what - just screw on 64MB of memory and throw away the Spectrum for nothing?
No, well, no one forbids doing it out of petty logic...
Bye...
KF> And give 40 for SB Live...
Tell that to AC97. ))) Kirill, we are not discussing extremes here, otherwise you can also give
$500 for a super-duper card, but what’s the point? I'm being sarcastic here about something else.
)
KF> Wake up, the Spectrum is a car for the rich.
Yes, I know...))) But the younger generation needs to be taught on the right car. )
Bye Kirill! /Stanley/
LocalDate 09 Jan 04 - LocalTime 16:59
AA>> formation through the forest in the steppe to dig trenches, plant cucumbers and collect
AA>> watermelons. Who will open the mitten about 200 penta mmh buddet
AA>> dig three times more for boo neh... The smart guys are already fed up.
AT> Start laughing: 386 40 Mg 4 MB vmnt
AT> 100 MB can cope with this at 4 minus. It's Windows 3.1 and Word 6. The text is 1.2MB in size on stump433 96MB
Gee.
Did you collect computers (not Spectrums) for the people?
Do you know the current needs of the people?
Go out into the street, ask _anyone_.
Music and films are on in the very chapter. Well, working with papers is a little behind us, and
this immediately implies conscience with ms'office97 for today.
Total: - for office 486-100 16MB 200MB screw. To work on even less is masochism.
- for films as many as 600 64 MB 20 GB screw. If you take a used one, then a smaller
configuration is no longer just a failure, but simply a waste of money.
- toys... Well, here everyone has a muzzle width.
In terms of money, approximately 1500/7000/15000 rubles, respectively
AT> RAM 98 Windows and the office opens in 2 minutes, and I have only 1.5 on 386
AT> :))). So I installed another 4 MB, a 6 GB screw and OS/2, I think it will be
Have you noticed that the office simply converts this document into its format, which
accordingly takes time? Well, there’s no way a screw on a three-piece can work faster than on a stump.
Save the document in office formatand it will load much faster. Just not
sure that it will open later on you at 3 :)
AT> now check at 5 with a small minus. :)
On the triple 6GB? You are not only a masachist, but you also know a lot about perversions..
Admit that you don’t have 386 as you wrote above, but just a stump433 :)
AT> Why is speckie worse? Most likely due to the lack of the necessary software.
On 386 there is also a sea of new software, I’m really surprised by such an influx of it since
the new year :)
Will you pay?
I’m asking as a person related to hardware.
You won’t like the price first, for this price you can buy a living computer from those
who have one lying on the mezzanine, or even more than one.
To repair you need:
1) Free time. I usually don’t have it at work; there are much more useful activities there. At home after work I want to relax and finally do something else, otherwise I end up doing a second job at home. Therefore, this time is expensive.
2) Availability of parts. You have to go to stores and junkyards to get them, order the missing ones, look for analogues, and solder them out of obsolete trash. This also
takes time.
3) Having a pile of working trash (monitor, power supply, disk drives, all sorts of laces, etc.).
All this is for checking and catching glitches of the computer being repaired. Where should I keep all this?
Whether it’s true or not (it’s been sold out/thrown away a long time ago), then you need to get it somewhere
and check it or is it all just lying around somewhere (after all, it’s not every day
you repair a computer and it’s all on the table), then you need to get it all out, wipe off the dust, etc. To free up a workplace for this mountain of iron, which as all repairmen know
is not very easy :)
AT> I also have to study the pussy (you need to know the enemy by sight :). I don’t
AT> consider this to be shameful, but rather a very useful thing.
Study more carefully and have less prejudices.
Bye,Aleksey!
Arc/exRLDG
AT> Work for money should not be confused with work for the soul. I can
This is what the enemy calls “hobby”, not work.
Everything is clear with you :)
AT> work as a driver of the Urals, so according to your logic, I have to go to the dacha
So he uses his personal car as a “hobby” to go to the dacha to relax, and if he
needs to bring potatoes, then this is work and for that he can with a clear conscience
take a worker Ural.
AT> this car is great to drive. At work I also have a pussy, but it doesn’t mean anything
AT>.
Not once.... oh.. :) Well, you’re not “working” in the normal sense of the word
on Speccy, relax.
RT> In general, after a long rummage through Spec's disks, I found them!
RT> It's called "NLQlx Print". And that program that prints in 14th font with
RT> intervals of 1.5 is called “FX Print”. Both programs were on one
RT> distribution disk along with docks and the TLW editor with a table of control codes configured
RT> for NLQlx. At one time, for FX, I wrote
RT> a printer driver for myself, but in NLQlx it is located in the body of the program,
RT> so I was never able to use it. :(
RT> The ZIP archive with the SCL image of all this weighs 240 KB. If you need it, write
RT> where, I’ll send it.
Let me get lost.
AA> Have you noticed that the office simply converts this document into its own format, which
AA> which
AA> takes time accordingly? Well, there’s no way a screw on a troika can work faster than
AA> on
AA> hemp.
Think first, speak later. Even a “triple” screw has no less than three megabytes per second. Document size 1.2MB. Conclusions?
AA> Save the document in office format and it will load much faster. Only
AA> not
AA> I’m sure that it will open later on your troika :)
Gnumeric can also import from the “office” format for half a day,
and reads and writes its xml instantly. So think about it.
On Thu, 08 Jan 04 23:46:58 +0300, Stanley Ivanenko wrote:
SI> Well, emulators generally rule. You can save $20 on general sound.
SI> )))
And give 40 for SB Live...
SI> 2 All: People, I continue to want a real Spectrum. ))) And if possible at
SI> price
SI> lower than offtopic. And if there’s also an EGA monitor in the attic, that’s it. )
SI> S
Wake up, the Spectrum is a car for the rich.
RT> Print". Both programs were on one distribution disk together
RT> with docks and editor
RT> TLW with a table of control codes configured for NLQlx. In
[disk error]
02 Jan 04 15:33, Alexander A. Lyadenko -> Aleksey Tarasow:
AT>> (to put it mildly, they are pushing me hard to do this) and buy myself a
AT>> pussy (I still only have Pro!), because I’m boiling in
AT>> my cauldron without communication with the outside world, I have no desire.
AAAL> hmm... why are such kludges strange, obviously pissy? :)
1. At the moment the Professional is undergoing repairs.
2. The maximum speed of COMport on Pro is 9600, which is very low, and I don’t have an external
modem.
3. The software under SPM is quite inconvenient; I only have the screw under this OS.
Sincerely, Alexey.
PS When replying to netmail, I kindly ask you to cut the letters to 11Kb. Otherwise
the ending will be lost. :((
AA>> format, what does it take time for? Well, there’s no way that a screw on a
AA>> troika can work faster than on a hemp.
KF> Think first, speak later. Even a “triple” screw has at least
KF> three megabytes per second. Document size 1.2MB. Conclusions?
I was the one who made a mistake due to inattention, I thought that the document just took so long to open, and then there’s the whole system.
But you must agree, the capabilities of a loaded system in the first case are clearly greater and
more redundant...
05 Jan 04 23:50, Kirill Frolov -> Aleksey Tarasow:
AT>>>>> Let's round up to 1000 rubles - where can you find an MP3 player for these
OG>>> I saw an mp3 CD player in a store for 1600 and a penny.
AT>> 900 rubles is worth SDROM for a computer (although you can get it for 700, but
AT>> I don’t recommend it). In any case, you find yourself tied to the SD
AT> disk, you can’t erase the old one, nor
KF> Buy yourself a pussy. You will use it to record discs for the player.
+ writing machine 2300-2600
.....
I deleted the hardware part, because... I don’t understand it well, but I’ll look at the prices one of these days
(if I don’t forget :).
....
OG>>> So we read the list first, taking into account only the ide users
OG>>> who will become? to itch in this direction.
AT>> In any case, there’s nowhere to go without a screw.
KF> “Screw” is still used by practically nothing except CP/M and iS-DOS
KF>...
Which is not so little. Although I would like more.
By the way, will the CP/M versions for 128 machines work with a screw? If so, which ones?
AT>> All new operating systems will be oriented towards it.
KF> What new “OS”?
Timonin Maxim is writing a VG emulator, DOORS, CHaOS, there was information that work is underway in Poland
. Something else, but I don’t remember now.
AT> Timonin Maxim write a VG emulator,
On a ramdisk... This is not an OS, besides.
AT> DOORS,
Doors'99, Doors'2000, Doors'2001, Doors'2002, Doors'2003,
Doors'2004...
AT> CHaOS,
What is this?
AT> there was information that work is underway in Poland.
Not impressive.
AA> Why should I think about it, that’s what I wrote.
AA> For that office, the format from old computers is also not native.
I meant that the encrypted binary format can take longer to read
than compressed xml...
AAL>>> hmm... why are such kludges strange, obviously pissy? :)
KF>> Golded was ported to CP/M. Didn't you know?
RT> In general, after a long time of digging through Speck disks, I found them! Called
RT> "NLQlx Print". And that program that prints in 14th font with an interval of 1.5
RT> is called “FX Print”.
And at one time I tore out the help from the program that came with it. And brought him back to normal form. If you remember, there the help was in the form of a program that drew a printer on the screen and depicted paper coming out of it with a type of help printed on it. It flies behind.
RT> At one time for FX I wrote a printer driver for myself, but in NLQlx it
RT> is located in the body of the program, so I was never able to use it. :(
RT> The ZIP archive with the SCL image of all this weighs 240 KB. If you need it, write where,
RT> I will send it.
Here: jason2000 @ yandex.ru
WBR, Jason.
/*e-mail: jason2000(scary dog)yandex.ru ICQ: 62235830*/
/np:/ *silence*
SP>> computer scientists,
AT> Correction: this is what the gray majority, the crowd in other words, thinks.
AT> Which is at the mercy of advertising and its own dullness.
Hm. My respect for spectroumists has greatly diminished after your words. Do you know, great guru, that speck and pc are not such different platforms? Look at
Apple and notice the difference. And about the dullness... at one time the Spec was chosen as the cheapest computer - a toy for children. The children have grown up, some have found other toys, and some still play with the old ones, but that’s their problem, it’s just that now children are given other toys, and they are not more expensive than the Spectrum, back in 1989.
P.S. By the way, it is almost impossible to buy spec now. And all the people currently working will die in five to ten years. ;)
Happy Aleksey! Well, aren’t you tired of reading?
KF> You are not the first to announce death here. How many of these have already been...
Yes, damn it, I’m not declaring anything, I myself have a living Pentagon, and
it’s constantly being improved.
You just have to face the truth, people leave and don’t come back.
At the moment I’m slowly installing expansion cards for our simple bus.
The adapter board is plugged into the processor socket on the main board, the processor
is plugged into the adapter itself. On the adapter there is a 34-pin connector
where a cable with pinned connectors from 5"25 drives, which
serve as slots, is connected. Cards are already plugged in there. Now I'm installing the card
ps/2mouse(AVR)+joy+CMOS+NemoHDD. It's still a hassle with the wiring, but it's quite possible to assemble it using LUT
well, maybe there will be several jumpers. The boards have quad AY+soundrive.
And don’t say that this is a soplestroy - no skein of mgtfa, it fits almost any Spectrum.
As for reliability - on my old Pentagon 1024 turbo, with a cable length of about half a meter, 4 cards worked quietly - mouse, ay+soundrive, ISAmodem,
programmator.
I can throw the adapter board for LUT into the echo (tif 600dpi + diagram in Layout3.0 =
64k in the archive).
Bye, Kirill!
Arc/exRLDG