mail editor

They sent me a new tosser editor from KVA!
An analogue of ZEDa, but cooler! Supports multi-node and pointing. Archive 24 Kb.

Sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

27 Jul 98 Alexey Ivanov, hoping that everyone would read it, wrote:

AI> They sent me a new tosser editor from KVA!
AI> Analogous to ZEDa, but cooler! Supports multi-node and
AI> pointing. Archive 24 Kb.

!!! Give it here quickly!

All the best.
Roman.

AI> Similar to ZEDa, but cooler! Supports multi-node and pointing.
AI> Archive 24 Kb.

So... In the echo! :) Maybe it will be cooler... :) We'll see! :)

[Team Kelly]
Hasta la vista.
Tim Kelly

AI> Similar to ZEDa, but cooler! Supports multi-node and pointing. Archive 24
Kb.

I didn’t understand what you wanted to say. can this be used or what?

W!7h Be$7 W!$he$, FK0.

KF> I didn’t understand what you wanted to say. Can this be used or
KF> what?

You try it. Especially with a resolution of 512 pixels.

ps/ Report and systematize all glitches;) There is a month
for beta testing :)

pps/ By the way, he seems to have made node software, and even managed to become a node

I was with you
Ars^FTL

KF> or what?

And I decided to try it. :)
Yesterday I scribbled one letter in this Lariska, but didn’t dare send it. Somehow the letter “cap” seemed suspicious to me.
But today I made up my mind. :)

The main thing: I was especially pleasantly surprised by the presence of the 512*192pix mode, cool! oh!
It’s hard to constantly work in this mode with 80 characters in a line.
It was imperative to make _64_characters_ of the thickened 8*8 font in this mode
and be able to quickly, at any time, switch from 64 * 8*8 to 80 * 6*8 and
back!

Very interesting setup!

Convenient to install a pkt disk A, and mail-disk D (ramdisk) with TR-DOS 5.12f - the editor works very quickly then! (though I haven’t tried it any other way :)

Actually, I have a lot of comments here, it’s impossible to dump them all at once.
The editor itself is not bad, line-by-line scrolling is just slow. A! I really
didn't like some continuation of auto-repeat after releasing the key! -
the necessary lines are deleted! :)

I also didn’t like the tosser. V0.3 for ZED by E.Milun will be faster. And this
doesn't process some emails! It's rare, but it does exist!

Let's see further.

All the best.
With respect, Roman.

KF> I didn’t understand what you wanted to say. can this be used
KF> or what?

If you are not too lazy to fuck around every time, rename files, changing the extension .C
from Melon to .E, then it seems you can use...

All the best.
Roman.

RM> If every time you’re not too lazy to fuck, rename files, changing the extension
RM> .C from under Melon to .E, then it seems you can use it...
why the hell I’ll write a program for renaming files with the extension C. to E... but
probably I’ll still do something else firstly:
1. It’s already possible to make a load of thirty-thirteen in Lara’s besik.
2. The process of reading mail works very well... I explain that all the letters are sweated
recorded on the same disk as with Lara and then the letters are read with great
slowness, especially if the A.Plus disk is wasting a lot of space on A.
it will generally be better if the author removes this crap.
3. You can't run Lara from disk D> because it's a turboloader.

but in general I really liked Lara... I really fell in love:)

MAD chao was with you!

KF> I didn’t understand what you wanted to say. this can be used
KF> or
KF> what?

AA> Try it. Especially with a resolution of 512 pixels.

I tried it, without 512 pixels.

AA> ps/ Report and systematize all glitches;) There is a month
AA> for beta testing :)

For now I have one big glitch - it doesn’t want to drain my mail
in any form. Both on one disk and on different ones. Both from a screw and from a floppy disk... When working with a floppy disk, the
directory was processed incorrectly, the "post.p" file was written to the very beginning, although there were already
files on the disk...

AA> pps/ By the way, he seems to have created node software, and even
AA> managed to become a node

Cool!!!
And the soaper who responds to incoming calls, did that too?

With that, Arseniy, let me say goodbye.
KIR.

Sat 01 Aug 1998 00:56, Kirill Chubenko wrote to Arseniy Astapenko:

KC> So far I have one big glitch - it doesn’t want to drain my mail,
KC> in any form. Both on one disk and on different ones. Both from the screw and from the
KC> floppy disk... When working with the floppy disk, the
KC> directory was processed incorrectly, the file "post.p" was written to the very beginning, although there were already files on the
KC> disk...

So I received soap from you, written in this editor... (?)

Yours sincerely, Alexey Ivanov

NM> why the hell, I’ll write a program for renaming files with

Well, whatever you write, then ori.

NM> 1. It’s already possible to make a download in Lara’s enta in Besik by
NM> thirteen thirteen.
NM> 2. The process of reading mail barely works... I’ll explain all
NM> letters are faded are written on the same disk that with Lara and
NM> the letters are read with great sluggishness, especially
NM> if disk A.Plus is wasting a lot of space on A.
NM> it will be a blessing if the author removes this crap.
NM> 3. you can’t run Lara from disk D> because it’s a turboloader.

... :))) Kolya! Take it, read the description and set up the setup! You will forget all
these three problems, everything is great there.

P.S. Sasha added information about the time and date from the CMOS clock to the 9th sector of disk “D” in the firmware, so that LARA would not have to talk about the time every time.

All the best.
Roman.

So throw his mailer here, it probably uploads .pkt to a disk with the extension .E
unloads? Or is it only for ZXNet's? Doesn't it work with haes in FIDO?

All the best.
Roman.

Once, 01 Aug 98, a certain Alexey Ivanov
wrote to Kirill Chubenko, on the topic: [mail editor]

[skip]

KC> directory, the file "post.p" was written to the very beginning, although there were already files on the
KC> disk
KC>...

AI> So I received soap from you, written in this
AI> editor... (?)

Soap? No, not from me, I wrote one letter to RU.Gen in it.

With that, Alexey, let me say goodbye.
KIR.

RM> changing the extension .C
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
RM> from under Melon to .E, then it seems you can use...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Damn, why didn’t the author think of saying this in help?!?!
I suffered, suffered... And there it is... :-E

With this, Roman, let me say goodbye.
KIR.

I don’t agree, the loading there is normal, but working with mail is in the setup
exposed...

NM> in general, I really liked Lara... I really fell in love
NM>:)

Hmm... No comments. :)

With that, Nikolay, let me say goodbye.
KIR.

[Team Kelly]
Hasta la vista.
Tim Kelly

Sun 02 Aug 1998 00:44, Kirill Chubenko wrote to Nikolay Maslennikov:

=== Everything has been bitten off ===

It seems that some people first write in the echo, and then figure it out... ;)
and there is no problem with the processed mail file extensions.
Even E, even C, even P... any letter is possible do. It was necessary
to read carefully the texts that were attached to the program.

With respect, Alexey Ivanov

RM> ... :))) Kolya! Take it, read the description and set up the setup! All
RM> you will forget these three problems, everything is great there.

RM> P.S. Sasha added information about the time and date from the
RM> CMOS clock to the 9th sector of the "D" disk in the firmware, so that LAR would not need to
RM> talk about the time every time.

Give it! Huh?

There is already one glitch. He doesn't want to show some letters. :-(
I can give you a package for experimenting with it.

And one thing was done poorly there -
too much is allocated to all sorts of from, tu, time, subject...
As many as 9 lines! It will be too much. If you wish, you can condense it to 6
and then more useful information (text of letters) will fit in.

something like this:

-----------------------------------------------------------
Vasily Chapaev 500:812/99.97 02-August-1998 Friday
Area : REAL.SPECCY 01-August-1998 Saturday
From : Vasja Pupkin 500:812/99.99
To : Fedia Glupkin 500:812/99.98
Subj : Re: y I have a thought and I will think about it.

here is the text of the letter. ^^^^^ the header is 5 lines
Vasily Chapaev - username 02-Aug. - current date
01-Aug. - date of writing the letter.

--- LARA weighing 1.5 tons
* Origin: and the genie screams (500:812/99.99)
SEEN BY: 812/99.00

LAT Some Information... All:155 Read: 115 Left: 40
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Last 6th line.

It would also be nice to have the option shinbai watch.

W!7h Be$7 W!$he$, FK0.

The main glitch is why I actually use ZED again - LARA
wrongly collects some letters in packages! Moreover, the percentage is very significant; in one package, almost half of the letters were not processed. Or rather, they are processed, but the body
of the letter itself is thrown out (probably, there is something in the caps
before the greetings, which are assigned when a letter passes through the Internet gates, which LARA mistakes for kludges).

All the best.
Roman.

RM> time not to talk every time.

TK> Give it! Eh?

Wait, today I found a terrible glitch in it (in the firmware).
As soon as Sasha fixes it, I’ll throw it away.
In general, he has a floppynet: Aleksander Kormishin, 2:4616/11.3.

All the best.
Roman.

Sun 02 Aug 1998 01:17, Kirill Frolov wrote to Arseniy Astapenko:

[...]

KF> There is already one glitch. He doesn't want to show some letters.
KF> :-( I can give you a package to experiment with it.

If it's small, throw it through the gate

I was with you
Ars^FTL

TK> This is already cool! This means that if all the PCs are dumped on the Internet,
TK> then Fido and ZX-Net will still remain on the Spectrumists.

So they are also trying to get into the Internet from the Spectrum.
And even something happens ;)

I was with you
Ars^FTL

Saturday 01 Aug 1998 19:23, Roman Milukov wrote to Arseniy Astapenko:

[...]

AA>> pps/ By the way, he seems to have made node software, and even
AA>> managed to become a node

RM> So throw his mailer here, it’s probably .pkt on the disk with
RM> with the .E extension unloads? Or is it only for ZXNet's? Doesn't it work with chaos
RM> in FIDO?

Again EEEE ;))
The usual mailer is Melon.
I haven't seen the node software - I just know that he
used it.

I was with you
Ars^FTL

Sunday August 02 1998 06:11, Alexey Ivanov ─── Kirill Chubenko:

AI> It seems that some people first write in the echo, and then figure it out... ;)
AI> and there is no problem with the processed mail file extensions.
AI> At least E, at least C, at least P... at least any letter can be made. It is necessary
AI> to read carefully the texts that came with the program.
You will laugh, but this is not in the help. Moreover, there is a suspicion that the file with the help has been chopped off. For example, in my zip archive (the one you sent) the file "lara_1_57.$W" ends with the phrase: "changes their length at
time". What kind of “pe” is I still don’t understand. :)

Good luck! Evgeny.

■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.

RM>
RM> The main glitch, why I actually use ZED again, -
RM> LARA
RM> incorrectly tosses some letters in packages! Moreover
RM> the percentage
RM> is _very_ significant, in one package I have almost
RM> half
RM> of letters were not processed. Or rather, they are processed, but by itself

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I, too, because of this glitch, am using ZED again.
And in LAR I noticed another glitch. It's really not fatal, but still. Sometimes when tossing with LAROY, if in the subject line, or in
another line in the header, the amount of information is more than can
fit to the right edge of the screen (for 256*192 mode), then
the information that does not fit is transferred to the next
line on the left. So after tossing the whole disk, almost nothing in the header
can be understood.

See you. Jan Zagorskikh.

RM> the body
RM> of the letter is thrown out (probably, there is something in the caps
RM> before the greetings, which are assigned when a letter
RM> passes through
RM> internet gates, which LARA mistakes for
RM> kludges).
describe in more detail, what does it look like?
is there a header from the letter, but not the letter itself? or what?
if as I wrote, then I didn’t have anything like this...

Packeda.

GIVer from Minsk ZXNet.

AA> If he is small, throw him through the gate

Missing letters only from Internet children.

W!7h Be$7 W!$he$, FK0

IG> describe in more detail what it looks like?

Well, how...
Potossil. I started reading. Some letters look like this:
Area, From, To, Time (or whatever it is?) - everything is in place, first and last names... but instead of the letter itself there is only some time! It is taken from the fact that it is entered before the greeting on the Internet gate.
------------
19:43:26

^^^^^^^^ this is the entire body of the letter!
In principle, I can throw in a similar .pkt and what remains of it after tossing
. Just tell me where. I don't
know how to write (and what gate) to Minsk ZXNet.

IG> --- there is nothing more beautiful than a nuclear explosion...
^!!!
The editor should replace the Russian "H" with the Latin "H".

All the best.
Roman.

RM> date from the CMOS clock on
RM> 9th sector of disk “D”, so that LARE doesn’t need to talk about the time with his hands
RM> every time.
KF> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
KF> this is not good! Store time in a part of the disk that can
KF> be deservedly claimed by other programs, etc.

You're right! Not good. But don’t pick at LARA to teach her to look at the clock?
Let the authors do it!

All the best.
Roman.

KF> Letters only from Internet users disappear.

What, someone posted from the Internet? I didn’t see something...

By the way, according to the subject, this echo has not yet scattered much...
Although you can even read from the web, for example:

http://www.ipclup.ru/free/news/

and enter fido7.real.speccy ;)

I was with you
Ars^FTL

RM> P.S. Sasha added information about the time and
RM> date from the CMOS clock to the
RM> 9th sector of disk "D" in the firmware, so that LARE would not need to
RM> talk about the time every time.
KF> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~