wheel and kempston-mouse — ZXNet «real.speccy»

From Dmitriy Nesmachny To All 26 September 2001

Hello, Oleg!

Thursday 21 Jun 2001 09:40:16, Oleg Maksimuk -> Vadik Akimoff:

OM> Kempston mouse is a proprietary device and you shouldn’t cover
OM> it with cartoons and extras. ports. Do it better with buttons.

And only 4 bits, which would be implemented by one counter.

Regards, Dmitriy.

From Oleg V.Chernousov To All 28 September 2001

> VA> My option is $FEDF.
>
> Kempston mouse is a proprietary device and you shouldn’t cover it with cartoons and additional
> ports. Do it better on buttons.
>
I once thought about implementing a wheel on a Kempston mouse, which
would immediately work without drivers with most software on the spec and the only
solution, in my opinion, is to, using 2 unoccupied bits
in the button port, trigger wheel rotation events on the Q and A buttons - which
are very often used for paging, for example, magazines. This is quite easy to implement in hardware. Well, developing the idea, set the second wheel
to O and P, the fourth and fifth buttons to anything (although there may not be enough free bits :)
I once saw somewhere a circuit that itself presses RANDOMIZE USR 15616,
so the field for experiments is huge.

regards

Oleg

From Kirill Frolov To All 28 September 2001

Immediately click on RESET, Oleg!

28 Sep 01 17:36, Oleg V.Chernousov wrote to All:

OC> and the only solution, in my opinion, is to
OC> using 2 unoccupied bits in the button port, drive the
OC> wheel rotation events to the Q and A buttons - which are very often used for
OC> leafing through, for example, magazines.

Insanity grew stronger...

From Oleg Groskow To All 29 September 2001

Hello, Kirill!

Saturday September 29 2001 00:25, Kirill Frolov wrote to Oleg V.Chernousov:

OC>> rotating the wheel on the Q and A buttons - which are very often
OC>> used for leafing through, for example, magazines.
KF> Insanity grew stronger...
The fool himself. It's a good idea, but IMHO it won't go forward. Although what the hell is not joking.

Sincerely, Oleg. [ZX]

From Oleg V.Chernousov To All 1 October 2001

It’s natural not to solder to the buttons, as someone might think ;)

Well, just imagine, let’s say you’re on the beach. We took with us a good
mouse with two wheels and five buttons (and a trackball under the thumb ;)
When suddenly... you got tired of playing MANIC MINER and you easily and UNFORCEDLY
press the fourth mouse button, after which the logic hanging on it
does the following: RESET -> RANDOMIZE USR 15616 -> ENTER -> RUN -> ENTER,
after which BOOT naturally appears on the screen (so beautiful, with
music), but AAAAAAAAAABLOOOOM!!! BOOT is not friendly with KEMPSTON MOUSE !!!
Hence the conclusion - we begin to spin the mouse wheels, which are set to QAOP,
and, moving the cursor to the desired file, press the middle (or 5th) button
of the mouse, which is set to the spacebar - and that's it! TELEMARKET!
(Someone may shout that you can’t touch the middle button, because it
will be NESPECTRUM ;) then you can answer him that just for the sake of supporting it
in CV2 and UFO2, you can make such a sacrifice)

[A1200] [PROFI1024/GS512/KMOUSE/all show-offs] [ATARI130XE/nothing]

luck,

Oleg

From Kirill Frolov To All 1 October 2001

01 Oct 01 14:12, Oleg V.Chernousov wrote to All:

OC> Well, just imagine, let’s say you’re on the beach. You took with you
OC> a good mouse with two wheels and five buttons (and a trackball under
OC> with your thumb ;) Suddenly... you got tired of playing MANIC MINER and

Everything is incredibly cool, BUT

this is the ideologically wrong way.

We need to fix it, but it’s better to immediately write the software correctly, and not then produce something like this
deformity.

From Oleg V.Chernousov To All 6 October 2001

Yeah, let's, comrades, take STS's in our hands and with a song shovel all the
software under the mouse's wheels :))))
A good example is General Sound. The hardware is good, but there is something not enough
enthusiasm (many of ours died/scrapped up?) when adapting the software.

So let’s not teach the wise ALL which path is correct.
If a person’s legs do not grow from the neck (and the arms do not come from (_)(_)) then he will
decide how viable this idea is.

[Team A1200/PROFI/ATARI]

all the best

Oleg

From Dmitriy Nesmachny To All 7 October 2001

OC>> MANIC MINER and

KF> Everything is immeasurably cool, BUT

KF> this is the ideologically wrong path.

KF> We need to fix it, but it’s better to write the software correctly right away, and
KF> don’t then produce such monstrosity.

You can’t beat all the women.. you can’t fix all the software! ;-)))

Sincerely, Dmitriy.