Hrip

Somehow Sat 27 Jan 2001 at 10:51:02 Dmitriy and Yuri were arguing about the topic Hrip

YP>> then everything is ok because only 5 bytes are killed: (RUN "fil)
YP>> (ename".automatic) a
YP>> this will remain! and that's enough
YP>> and if you already have programs on disk with the names "a" "b"
YP>> "c" then it's YOUR problem - you'll get a GUI :)
DN> It's not provided for in TRDOS command line, it will be difficult to start from the machine code
DN>,
DN> to form a string.

it's not important! THE MAIN THING is possible!

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Press RESET immediately, Yuri!

05 Feb 01 19:47, Yuri Potapov wrote to Dmitriy Nesmachny:

YP> not important! THE MAIN THING is possible!
The main thing is, who will do all this? I definitely won’t do this in Anzip. DT in
Hrip is also unlikely - practical use: zero.

Well, bye! Tigrr from -■Brainwave^X-Project■- tigr...@mail.ru

KF>> LOAD "A" CODE how to do it?
YP> But your imagination is rather poor :)

And I just like to call programs that way. You can type faster using the keyboard.

YP> and now I have semi-automatic unpacking

What is it called?

Thank you for your attention.

DN>>> Not provided in the TRDOS command line, from the machine code
DN>>> it will be difficult to start, it will be difficult to form a line.
YP>> not important! THE MAIN THING is possible!

KF> And I just like to call programs that way. You can type faster from the keyboard
KF>.
I didn’t even think that there are people who launch programs from the keyboard via Load.

Well, till next time...

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KF> And I just like to call programs that way. Using the keyboard
KF> you can quickly type
KF>.

well, great...
call it what you want...
try renaming MS-PACK and launching...

And will I have a fac? Huh and correctly.

DN> I can answer this question like this:
DN> LOAD "A" CODE

O! Then I'm for the command line exactly in this form! :-)

EG> What's the name?

I have a Scorp with 2 drives

so on disk A:

instead of "boot" UnZip is written, plus a stealth boot is also registered

when resetting, the shadow climbs to the zero track and loads the stealth boot
from that I (by pressing enter) launch NAM, which processes the session and
starts boot i.e. unzip it unpacks the mail on B: I click EDIT and
start Lara from B:, change the disk with Myler to the disk with Base and that’s it :)

YP> launches boot i.e. unzip it unpacks the mail on B: I click EDIT and
YP> launch Lara from B:, change the disk with Myler to the disk with Base and that’s it :)
I can do an auto-exit if anyone needs it. By the way, did you want to help with scl?

KF> And will I have a fact? Well, that’s right.

of course it’s right... there’s no need to rename the program...

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Well, till next time...

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YP>> that's it :)
IT> I can make an automatic logout if anyone needs it. By the way, you wanted c

And auto-exit is really needed.
especially if the base is placed on C: then you’ll get a full automatic machine :)

IT> scl help?

yes. Ya
what do you need? If I can provide an overlay from the extractor, I can sketch it like this!

SS> What does “nefig” mean? I rename it as I want. Two or three letters
SS> are enough.

How would you feel about being renamed to 3 letters?

SS> What does “nefig” mean? I rename it as I want.
SS> Two or three letters are enough.

If you think so, that’s your right, but the Author has a different opinion on this matter...

YP> But auto-exit is really needed.
YP> especially if the base is placed on C: then you’ll get a full automatic machine :)
So I think the same thing... It’s just that I can’t get around to it because of the hardware and
etc...

IT>> scl to help?
YP> and what do you need? If I can provide an overlay from the extractor, I can
YP> sketch it like that!
I just need the source code for ANY version of the script. It’s too bad to write it yourself :) And by the way, jpg
viewer seems to be your job? I would like to continue :)

Greetings, *Yuri*!

Saturday February 10, 2001 at 04:09 pm Yuri Potapov wrote to Evgeny Goljakov about
"Hrip"

YP> I have a Scorpio with 2 drives
YP> so on drive A:
YP> instead of "boot" there is UnZip plus more the stealth boot

YP> is registered when you reset, the shadow climbs to the zero track and loads the stealth boot
YP> from that I (by pressing enter) launch NAM, which processes the session and
YP> launches boot i.e. unzip that unpacks the mail on B: I press EDIT and
YP> launch Lara with B:, I change the disk with Myler to the disk with the Base and that's it :)

In Minsk, mail is automatically picked up and unpacked. (True on EMC)

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PL> Why not make this combined zxunzip-pkunzip
PL> a plugin for EMS or not build it into the program at all (if
PL> it works out with the code figure it out) - after all, every timeWe use them
PL>, and every time we need to climb from EMS to a zipper from
PL> to another zipper, otherwise if we grabbed the mail, we would immediately unpack it
PL> and into Lara...

A very real idea, you just need to use the BatProc v1.x program (by KVA & Diamond Group), configure work for yourself and everything is OK. You launch
you are listed as a robot, it downloads all the mail, then from there it launches
AutoZXUnZiper (by Brom :) ), which unpacks the downloaded mail, after
unpacking it launches Lara, which (if CMOS is available) immediately toss
mail, in the absence of it you you will have to enter the date. That's all for you, almost
full automation !!!!
But about pkunziper, you need to contact the author, let, for example,
share the source code. In fact, in Minsk we rarely use pkunzip,
that’s why I don’t have a great desire to make AutoPKUnziper.

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YP>> extractor, I can
YP>> sketch it like that!
IT> I just need the source code ANY way. Write it yourself

ok I'll send you a module...you'll figure it out yourself :)

IT> screwed up :) And by the way, jpg
IT> viewer seems to be your job? I would like a continuation :)

is that one glitchy? :) Our course...
Continuation? why continue?

12 } 2001 Igor Turashev and Yuri Potapov talked about re:Hrip

IT> broken :) And by the way, jpg viewer seems to be your job? I would like a continuation of
IT> :)
It is necessary that a 3color picture is immediately made, and if there are files on the disk:
xxx.jpg, xxx.0pg, ..., then do not stop at the first file, but continue.

Once Fri 13 2001 at 23:45:39 Sergey and Yuri were arguing on the topic re:Hrip

SS> It is necessary to immediately create a 3color picture, and if the
SS> disk contains the following files:
SS> xxx.jpg, xxx.0pg, ..., then do not stop at the first
SS> file, but to continue.

I don’t understand what you mean!
if xxx.jpg has a size of more than 255 sectors then it will look like
xxx.jpg
xxx.0pg
xxx.1pg

he will interrogate and process this matter... and if you are talking about making markings then
then obviously

February 15, 2001 Yuri Potapov and Sergey Selev talked about re:Hrip

YP> Somehow Fri 13 2001 at 23:45:39 Sergey and Yuri argued on
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Look, how I’m doing. :)

YP> if xxx.jpg has a size of more than 255 sectors, then it will look like
YP> xxx.jpg
YP> xxx.0pg
YP> xxx.1pg

YP> it will interrogate and process this matter... and if you mean that
Strange, I got glitches when I didn’t get a couple of dozen lines to the bottom
of the screen. The file was about 80Kb.

SS> It’s strange, I started getting glitches when I didn’t get a couple of
SS> dozens of lines to the bottom
SS> of the screen. The file was about 80Kb.

yes, I recently came across the source code, looked through it and was amazed
there are so many bugs there that it SHOULD NOT work AT ALL :)

I’m surprised now. How can it work? :)))

SS> It is necessary that a 3color picture is immediately made, and if there are files on the disk:

That's for sure. I grabbed some interesting pictures from the Zilog website, began to convert them into 3color
in order to upload them here - I was tired of gluing files together with my pens - I gave up
on it.

WBR, Jason.

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YP> yes, I recently came across the source code, looked through it and was amazed
YP> there are so many bugs there that it SHOULD NOT work AT ALL :)
Why do some jpegs (progressive jpegs) don’t want to look?

YP> I’m surprised now. How can it work? :)))
It’s very simple. You need a lot of conditions for glitches to appear.

SS>> files:
VK> That's for sure. I grabbed some interesting pictures from Zilog’s website, started converting them to
VK> 3color in order to upload them here - I was too tired to glue the files
VK> together - I gave up on it.

There is such a cool program Brujeria (see appendix to ADV 11), it can convert
from PCX to 3color.

Bye!
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SS>> there are files on the disk:

VK> That's for sure. I got some interesting pictures from Zilog's website,
VK> started converting them into 3color
VK> in order to upload them here - I was tired of using my handles
VK> to glue the files together - I gave up
VK> on this.

I don't know... you can make a tricolor picture generated in 3 passes...
otherwise there's no way yet... there's no other way, everything is done... :)

a >> RRA >> not available yet... Dealing with Amiga :(

SS>> files:
VK> That's for sure. I got some interesting pictures from Zilog’s website, started converting them into
VK> 3color in order to upload them here - I was too tired to glue the files
VK> together - I gave up on it.
Yura, if you are the author, then maybe you can upload the documents in jpeg format, I think there will be
craftsmen to make a good viewer.

to all: maybe you Does anyone have a description of the jpeg format lying around?

Sincerely, Oleg Judin.

VK>> That's for sure. I grabbed some interesting pictures from Zilog's website,
VK>> started converting them in 3color
VK>> in order to upload them here - I got tired of using my pens
VK>> to glue the files together - I gave up
VK>> I'm on it.

YP> I don’t know... it’s possible to generate a tricolor image in 3 passes
YP>...
YP> there’s no other way yet... there’s no other way to do everything... it’s done :)
Well, it wouldn’t be bad anyway, otherwise constantly tearing out components separately is inconvenient,
I usually run it in the background, i.e. when I'm busy with something :) And in terms of speed
it wouldn't hurt to optimize a little.

YP> and >> RRA >> is not available yet... I'm working on the Amiga :(
Make free sources :)

SS> Why do some jpegs (progressive jpegs) don’t want
SS> to look?

because there the principle of image storage is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
there “... the entire image is stored in layers and folded through the alpha channel...”
(c) >> RRA >> learned from the description
and to unpack such a JPEG you need memory:

192 * 256 = 49152 (Spekov screen size based on 1 pixel - 1 byte) *
3 (number of RGB colors) = 147456 bytes (9 pages) + 3 pages per 1 line
(16 or 8 * jpeg width)

plus you need to pick a viewer that understands pJPEG :)

20 Feb 01, 23:24 "Oleg Judin" wrote to "Yuri Potapov": I can and in .txt recode.
Hat?

See you.

February 21, 2001 Yuri Potapov and Sergey Selev talked about re:Hrip

YP> and to unpack such a JPEG you need memory:

YP> 192 * 256 = 49152 (Spekov screen size based on 1
YP> pixel - 1 byte) *
YP> 3 (number of RGB colors) = 147456 bytes (9 pages) + 3
YP> pages under 1 line
YP> (16 or 8 * jpeg width)
I have a meter, so no problem.

YP> plus you need to pick a viewer that understands pJPEG :)
Imho, this format is not a threat to Spectrum. There, the image is compressed in several passes - 128k is not enough to open a picture the size of a Spectrum screen - because each subsequent compression pass is based on what was in the previous raster. Roughly speaking,

p.s. thanx 4 scl ovl, the base just crashed and the soap probably didn’t have time to leave :(

OJ> Yura, if you are the author, then maybe you can upload the documents in jpeg format,
OJ> I think there will be craftsmen to make a good viewer.

OJ> to all: maybe someone has it lying around description of jpeg format?

AFAIK, it is in faultless #9, only in English.

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Somehow Sat 21 2001 at 02:30:53 Igor and Yuri were arguing about the topic Hrip

IT> Well, that wouldn’t be bad, otherwise it’s inconvenient to constantly tear out the
IT> components separately,
IT> I usually run it in the background, i.e. когда чем-то занят :) Да
IT> и по скоорости
IT> немного оптимизнуть не помешает.

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

там внутрях такое творится, он жутко скоростной

первый вариант рендерил картинку порядка 8ми часов (was simply rewritten from
the source code)

OJ> Yura, if you are an author, then maybe you can upload the documents in jpeg format,
OJ> I think there will be
OJ> craftsmen to make a good viewer.

I am ONE of the authors... The main load was on >> RRA >> he tinkered with it,
thought it out, optimized it, wrote the rendering... and mine is just the shell, plus some
moments inside the unpacker

OJ> to all: maybe someone has a description of the jpeg format lying around?

I can immediately say there are cruel calculations with floating point numbers inside.

But the fact that our implementation turned out to be the ONLY one is still upsetting :(

IT> IMHO, this format is not a threat to Spectrum. There, the image
IT> is compressed in several
IT> passes - 128k is not enough to open a picture the size of a
IT> Spectrum screen -
IT> because each subsequent compression pass is based
IT> on what was in
IT> the previous raster. Roughly speaking,

layers are shorter... For 128 of course it’s not possible, but for 256 it’s possible :)

IT> p.s. thanx 4 scl ovl, the base just crashed and the soap probably didn’t have time to leave
IT> :(

ok! :) have you already integrated it?

YP>> 192 * 256 = 49152 (spekovsky screen size based on 1
YP>> pixel - 1 byte) *
YP>> 3 (number of RGB colors) = 147456 bytes (9 pages) + 3
YP>> pages for 1 line
YP>> (16 or 8 * width jpeg)

AV> There is such a thing, only in .pdf format. I can re-encode it into .txt.
AV> Come on?
Yes, go ahead, but only in txt, because... I myself have several files in .pdf
I don’t know how to recode them, maybe you can tell me? or better yet, a transcoder
come on too, thanks in advance.

Sincerely, Oleg Judin.

OJ> Yes, go ahead, but only in txt, because... I myself have several
OJ> files in .pdf, but I don’t know how to recode them, maybe you can tell me? or better yet
OJ> the transcoder is also welcome, thanks in advance.
Find an acrobat reader

-naxin->

OJ> Yes, go ahead, but only in txt, because... I myself have several
OJ> files in .pdf, but I don’t know how to recode them, maybe you can tell me? and
OJ> it’s better and give us a transcoder too, thanks in advance.

So, with PC formats and their transcoders - into more different echoes,
please. Or have the transcoders already done it in real life? ;-/

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OJ>>> can you give me a hint? or better yet, give us the transcoder too, thanks in advance.
YK>> Find an acrobat reader
MS> [*] - offtopic

Well then, I can suggest porting xpdf (opensource) to the Spectrum...

There is a utility:

pdftotext(1) pdftotext(1)

NAME
pdftotext - Portable Document Format (PDF) to text converter (version
0.90)

SYNOPSIS
pdftotext [options] [PDF-file [text-file]]

DESCRIPTION
Pdftotext converts Portable Document Format (PDF) files to plain text.

Pdftotext reads the PDF file, PDF-file, and writes a text file,
text-file. If
text-file is not specified, pdftotext converts file.pdf to file.txt. If
text-file
is ⌠-', the text is sent to stdout.

Raw files take up a megabyte... The binary is 200kb...

Probably won’t fit on the Spectrum.