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ZXNet echo conference «real.speccy»
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 31 October 1999
Once Denis Ognewsky tapped on the keyboard to Eduard Pilipenko:
EP>> Some of the LARA users sent letters with files
EP>> (programs) using the
EP>> attribute File attached to msg. If this is possible, please
EP>> enlighten me ;-) I can't do anything with this. UUE coding is not
EP>> in
EP>> account.
DO> She doesn't know how to do that. Now, if you put in KVA/E-mage beer, he will write a special
DO> for you. :)
at this stage I can say that no further versions of Lara Croft Mail Editor
under TRDOS are expected! Latest version 4.4. According to KVA, if there is anything, it will be under DOORS2000.
DO> [ZX] [AMiGA] WBR, Denis Ognewsky
C ya in nE>
From Denis Ognewsky → To All 2 November 1999
OG> at this stage I can say that there are no further versions of Lara Croft Mail
OG> Editor
OG> for TRDOS! Latest version 4.4. According to KVA, if there is something
OG>, it will be under DOORS2000.
What other DOORS? Not for MD9x?
From Murad Davronbekov → To All 2 November 1999
OG> Editor for TRDOS is not expected! Latest version 4.4. According to KVA
OG> if there is something, it will be under DOORS2000.
What is this you have here - please enlighten me?
Is there a demo version or what other version is there to at least take a look
from the corner of your eye?
Sincerely, Murad Davronbekov.
From Musa Khaybullin → To All 2 November 1999
Please throw her in the echo so that people have at least some idea
about her!!!!
With respect, Musa Khaybullin.
From Kirill Frolov → To All 3 November 1999
Taаaak... Pink Floyd, iS-DOS, CP/M, mb01, TR-DOS, NEOS, and now
even and DOORS2000 ? %-() Where so much ? Real tape for real specy !
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
From Anton Kriwoshea → To All 4 November 1999
OG>> Croft Mail
OG>> Editor
OG>> not expected under TRDOS! Latest version 4.4. According to
OG>> KVA, if there is something
OG>>, it will be under DOORS2000.
Let me touch it, Doors - I haven’t seen it ;)
DO> Under what other DOORS? Not under MD9x?
God forbid! on the Mazda Spectrum!!! ;)
Good luck to you, Denis!
Anton Kriwoshea aka $k1v/M7H (orp.'99.
From Anton Kriwoshea → To All 4 November 1999
OG>> Editor for TRDOS is not expected! The latest version is 4.4.
OG>> With
OG>> words KVA
OG>> if there is something, it will be under DOORS2000.
KF> Soooo... Pink Floyd, iS-DOS, CP/M, mb01, TR-DOS, NEOS,
KF> and now
KF> also DOORS2000? %-() Where so much? Real tape for
KF> real speccy !
I can continue: MythOS, GraphOS, Widnows (the latter - in the form of a boot) ;) from
our group ;)))
Good luck to you, Kirill!
From Arseniy Astapenko → To All 5 November 1999
Hello Anton!
Thu 04 Nov 1999 19:33, Anton Kriwoshea wrote to Kirill Frolov:
KF>> NEOS, and now also DOORS2000? %-() Where is so much?
KF>> Real tape for real speccy !
AK> I can continue: MythOS, GraphOS, Widnows (the last one - in the form of
AK> boot) ;) from our group ;)))
I don’t know what MythOS is, but in the menus in Awaken from Mythos
really Windows :)
I was with you http://ftl.da.ru ICQ:1939489
Ars^FTL mailto:f...@mail.ru 500:17/1@ZXNet
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 6 November 1999
DO> [ZX] [AMiGA] WBR, Denis Ognewsky
C ya in nE>
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 6 November 1999
C ya in nE>
From Vsevolod Potapov → To All 9 November 1999
mb02
KF>> now also DOORS2000? %-() Where so much? Real tape for
KF>> real speccy !
nothing is being done under Pink Floyd at all, s/m is outdated and no one
does it, tr-dos as it was and remains a reality. isdos for more or less
normal work. and neos has not yet risen. any other comments?
OG> Well, before you say so... did you at least look at it :( I mean
OG> I mean DOORS2000!
don’t be upset - the project is real. in any case, it has the right to life
exactly as much as it doesn’t.
good luck. http://chaosite.com
random.concern chaos mailto:ran...@chaosite.com
... A strict but fair suit.
From Kirill Frolov → To All 10 November 1999
Where can I wash it?
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
From Kirill Frolov → To All 10 November 1999
09 Nov 99 00:54, Vsevolod Potapov wrote to Oleg Golenkoff:
VP> s/m is outdated and no one is working on it,
This is no longer important. They were trained for many years to come in their time.
VP> tr-dos as it was and remains a reality.
Bad reality.
VP> isdos for more or less normal operation.
Which one? With what? Copying files back and forth?
Long files still won’t fit into a text editor. Only Dickie
run.
VP> and neos has not risen yet. any other comments?
Where can I get mb02 and how to install it on the Spectrum?
What hardware does it work on?
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 10 November 1999
VP> don’t be upset - the project is real. in any case, he has the right to life
VP> exactly as much as neos.
Snx! :) By the way, the first presentation was at CC999! She was just in a narrow
circle... It's a pity that you didn't see... :(
VP> good luck. http://chaosite.com
VP> random.concern chaos mailto:ran...@chaosite.com
From Denis Ognewsky → To All 10 November 1999
Once, namely on 06 Nov 99 Oleg Golenkoff wrote to me:
OG> Good morning, country! :) well, that's how I knew it... DOORS2000 is...
OG> how should I put it... in short, there will be something in SCENERGY#2 by the way, I showed this
OG> miracle for some people at CC999 :) In general,
OG> is being prepared, enough information for now I won’t say anything, but for now if you have the Internet, we can go to
OG> origin...
OG> I’ll just say it right away the info there is very outdated, since we are still having troubles with the internet
OG> :(
At least they would finish it...
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 10 November 1999
C ya in nE>
From Vsevolod Potapov → To All 11 November 1999
good luck. http://chaosite.com
random.concern chaos. mailto:ran...@chaosite.com
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 11 November 1999
C ya in nE>
From Yuri Voynalovich → To All 11 November 1999
OG> Well, before you say so... did you at least look at it :( I mean
OG> I mean DOORS2000!
_HOW_ can you look at it?
Yuri
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 11 November 1999
VP> :(why didn’t they invite me? ;)
Well, now you’ll see :) And then? Well, who knows? Works will be exhibited in the following categories:
ZX: GFX & AY-MUSIC
PC: HANDRAW GFX, 4chanel music, Alternative music
AMMY: ? Well, if it’s like last time :( well, you can draw
something...
I won’t promise in other nominations yet...
From Dmitry Pavluhin → To All 12 November 1999
OG>>> Editor under TRDOS is not expected! Latest version 4.4. According to KVA
OG>>> if there is something, it will be under DOORS2000.
KF>> Soooo... Pink Floyd, iS-DOS, CP/M, mb01, TR-DOS, NEOS, and now
KF>> also DOORS2000? %-() Where so much? Real tape for real speccy !
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 12 November 1999
C ya in nE>
From Vsevolod Potapov → To All 13 November 1999
good luck. http://chaosite.com
random.concern chaos. mailto:ran...@chaosite.com
From Alex Shashkevich → To All 14 November 1999
OG> we're still having troubles with the internet :(
Maybe you can at least post some screenshots. It's interesting! I'm worried about all the new [Z80] [Zilog inside] [Sinclair Generation] [Energy Minds]
OSes on spec! It's high time to make a specific and sophisticated
car out of spec, otherwise they've screwed it up (practically they've made a bullet out of de..ma), but at one time it was almost on the same level with the spec (in terms of
performance)... It’s time to raise the spec, why is it worse??? All the best!
Now you can turn off the computer's power.
... Energy Minds from Freedom & X-Project.
From Roman Milukov → To All 15 November 1999
I looked. But I don’t understand, what will this be? Interface? Shell? Software package? Or a full-fledged OS?
All the best.
Sincerely, Roman.
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 16 November 1999
AS> When will it come out? Maybe drop a few lines about D2K, otherwise by the time
AS> S#2 appears and by the time it gets there, you might die. :)
If another cataclysm is not foreseen :) then by the New Year I think there will be
something to see. A more detailed description will come out with build 2...
AS> Maybe you can at least post some screenshots. It's interesting! Otherwise I'm worried about all
AS> new operating systems on spec! It’s high time to make a specific and
AS> fancy car out of spec, otherwise they screwed it up (practically they made a bullet out of de..ma
AS>), but at one time it was almost on the same level with
AS> spec (in terms of productivity)... It’s time to raise spec, why is it worse??? :)
Logical! :) Spec is no worse... two versions of an example of writing for Kernal
DOORS2000 rushed into the echo of ZX.SPECTRUM....
AS> PS: I hope D2K will be close in flexibility to AmigaOS?
If you consider flexibility: support for extended (>128 kb) memory, flexible
resource distribution system, support for all modern HARDWARE-devices,
fully changeable appearance even for MAC or AMMY, original system
writing for kernal... and... and... and... - then Yes! :)
2ALL: Should I throw D2000 build0 & build1 here??? Or will everyone just sleep
:( This is the second time I’m asking, by the way:(
AS>
From Vsevolod Potapov → To All 17 November 1999
good luck. http://chaosite.com
random.concern chaos. mailto:ran...@chaosite.com
From Dmitry Pavluhin → To All 19 November 1999
OG> If you consider flexibility: support for extended (>128 kb) memory,
OG> flexible
OG> resource distribution system, support for all modern
OG> HARDWARE devices,
OG> completely changeable appearance even for MAC or AMMY, original system
OG> writing under kernal... and... and... and... - then Yes! :)
Can it work according to my wishes with a screen of 512x192 or 256x192 (bytes
attributes per byte of pixels)? And so that the output from all programs goes exactly to this screen. Or, for example, the system works with a 512x192 screen, but somewhere it is indicated that the usual Spec mode is also available. In this case, for example, the viewer displays color images (6912) in color (256x192), and black and white images (which are suitable for 512x192 mode) in 512x192 mode. Or, for example, I want the system to work directly with an active PC keyboard (I soldered the serial port myself and attached the keyboard to the computer), and at the same time all the programs perceived it normally. Or... in short, a lot of things.
And here's another thing - what if I'm a maniac and love command lines and don't want to see windows
on the screen at all? :)
Sincerely, Dmitry.
From CoModerator of REAL SPECCY → To All 21 November 1999
VP> good luck. http://chaosite.com
VP> random.concern chaos. mailto:ran...@chaosite.com
From Vsevolod Potapov → To All 23 November 1999
good luck. http://chaosite.com
random.concern chaos. mailto:ran...@chaosite.com
From Anton Kriwoshea → To All 23 November 1999
VP> I’m not only worried about myself, but also about people who
VP> think that apart from neos, nothing is developing in terms of OSes
VP> ;)
Wooooooow!, what about our MythOS? =;)
Good luck to you, Vsevolod Potapov!
From Pawel Kislyak → To All 23 November 1999
Oleg Golenkoff ==========> Alex Shashkevich:
OG> Logical! :) Speck is no worse... two versions of an example of writing under
OG> kernal DOORS2000 rushed into the echo of ZX.SPECTRUM....
Something I didn’t see in ZX.SPECTRUM...
Bye!
[ZX] [Real Software]
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 23 November 1999
Roman Milukov wrote to Oleg Golenkoff on Monday November 15 1999
RM> I looked. But I don’t understand, what will this be? Interface? Shell? Package
RM> programs? Or a full-fledged OS?
Let's start with the first... gradually moving on to the last :) They just asked me
to let me see what kind of beast this is...
RM> Sincerely Roman.
See ya later, SysOp Lara Croft BBS [I LC!]
ZX-Station (500:152/2) PC-Station (2:451/19)
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 23 November 1999
Dmitry Pavlukhin wrote to Oleg Golenkoff on Friday November 19 1999
[...skipppppppppp....]
DP> Can it work at my request with a screen of 512x192 or 256x192 (bytes
DP> attribute per byte of pixels)? And so that the output from all programs goes exactly to this
DP> screen. Or, for example, the system works with a 512x192 screen, but somewhere
DP> it says-
Initially no! Because as you may have noticed, the system is colored :)
HO! If your program (written for DOORS) needs this, then please
the only question is what exactly do you need from this mode...
DP> it is known that the usual Spec mode is also available. In this case, for example, the
DP> viewer displays color images (6912) in color (256x192), and black and white
DP> (which are suitable for 512x192 mode) in 512x192 mode. Or else, for example, I want there to be no problems! This issue should be dealt with by the viewer, and not by the kernal...
DP> the system worked with the active PC keyboard directly (I soldered in the serial
DP> port and attached the keyboard to the computer), and at the same time all the programs perceived it normally -
DP>. Or... in short, a lot of things.
In short! All you need is a driver...
DP> And here’s another thing - what if I’m a maniac and love command lines and don’t want to see
DP> windows on the screen at all? :)
For this there will be SHELL ala AMIGA...
DP> CBest regards, Dmitry.
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 26 November 1999
C ya in nE>
From Anton Kriwoshea → To All 29 November 1999
OG> Initially no! Because as you may have noticed, the
OG> system is colored :)
OG> HOWEVER! If your program (written for DOORS) needs this
=;) ^^^^^
OG>, then please,
OG> the only question is what exactly do you need from
OG> this mode...
Cool advertising the system ;)
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 30 November 1999
AS>>> they blinded the bullet), but at one time it was almost on the same
AS>>> level with the spec (in terms of productivity)... It’s time to raise the spec, why is
AS>>> worse??? :)
AK> and get the same perversion that PC is now?
Well, let's start with the fact that you're getting into offtopic! And let’s end with this...
-Don’t have the bad habit of judging by your eyes, if you haven’t seen it, don’t fuck with it!
AK> with the best, Fox.
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 1 December 1999
AK> By the way, yes! I looked at the doors, got into trouble with the original
AK> metamorphosis of two operating systems (one of which is Mazda full ;)
AK> and this thing really pissed me off. You could say that I can even
AK> pay for the full version plus modem software. =;)
:) Well then! Truly, the imagination of a Russian person knows no bounds...
By the way, DOORS2000 itself will be freeware. But for those who deign to register - welcome. -> new drivers, updates, utilities, etc.
But as for programs for it, most likely they will already be commercial...
AK> Anton Kriwoshea aka $k1v/M7H (orp.'99.
From Moderator of REAL.SPECCY → To All 2 December 1999
OG> Well, let's start with the fact that you're offtopic! And let’s end with this...
OG> -Don’t have the bad habit of judging by your eyes, if you haven’t seen it, don’t fuck it!
OG> @PATH: 451/19 16 450/129 5010/146 5030/115 5020/238 1381 465/213
[*] - disrespect for the subscriber, use of profanity.
[I ZX] [Team Sashki-rulez] [Team Guardians] [Team Kelly]
Hasta la vista.
Tim Kelly
... tim_...@mail.ru 500:622/1@zxnet http://timkelly.da.ru
From Anton Kriwoshea → To All 3 December 1999
AK>> =;)
OG> By the way, DOORS2000 itself will be freeware. But for those who
OG> deign to register - welcome. -> new drivers,
OG> updates, utilities, etc.
how much should I transfer and where? ;)
OG> But as for the programs based on it, most likely they will already be
OG> commercial...
but problems, the main thing is not to tear too much ;)
From Kirill Frolov → To All 4 December 1999
01 Dec 99 11:20, Oleg Golenkoff wrote to Anton Kriwoshea:
OG> By the way, DOORS2000 itself will be freeware. But for those who deign
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 6 December 1999
C ya in nE>
From Oleg Golenkoff → To All 7 December 1999
C ya in nE>
From Alex Shashkevich → To All 21 December 1999
OG> Why did you decide that? :) I personally, after posting D2K
OG>, I constantly receive netsoap in which pplz asks for documents, with
OG> writing examples... and on the Internet, I have already received offers more than once
OG> to sell D2K as a system! By the way
OG> I receive letters of this kind not only from the CIS, but there were
OG> also letters from England, Germany and Poland!
Don’t listen to Kirill, otherwise some kind of fly has bitten him lately and he
misses everything that is done on the Spectrum. D2K is needed. And Kirill sits under the emulsion
and Spectrum, he needs nothing more than to play games. :)
Good luck Oleg! Let's get away again!
Sincerely, Priest from Energy Minds!
e-mail: prie...@usa.com
... Energy Minds from Freedom & X-Project. Sinclair generation.