ZED glitch

Somehow, 23 Oct 98, Viktor Kuzmin was chatting with Dmitriy Timokhin
about {ZED Glitch} :

VK> [...skip...]
DT>> Waiting, sir... ;) Will it fly to zxnet.soft?
VK> Already 3.0 is flying

Caught! Steering wheel !

VK> [...skip...]
DT>> It was Lara Croft 1.50. Really - not very much.

VK> 1.50 was released sooooooo long ago :-)

And it was sooooo glitchy :-)

OP>>> In particular, the lack of auto-creation eh (manually set them
OP>>> every time when
OP>>> a new one appears, if to put it mildly, not very convenient).

DT>> ??? I have new echoes in L.C. 1.80 are themselves created during tossing
DT>>.

VK> And in 3.0 they are not deleted...

??? And in earlier versions they removed ???
I didn’t have such problems =)

OP>>> Another big drawback, IMHO, is the _manual_
OP>>> editing of package extensions
OP>>> to *.E

DT>> If you hold some button, then packages with
DT>> extension "C" will be saved. For the life of me I don’t remember which button. ;)

VK> About *.E, I didn’t make it - these are already folk craftsmen :-(
VK> But in 3.0 you can install anything in the setup :-)

And in general, why the hell should *.E be done??? All normal people
- *.C .

VK> [...skip...]
DT>> Lara 1.80 - steering wheel !
VK> Glitch, she fatally bombed atcertain conditions...

??? Again - at what ??? I used this Lara - it worked great.

DT>> IMHO, Lara is better than Zed - much faster, more bug-free, more convenient
DT>> interface ;) ( -
DT>> who didn’t understand - interface :)))) .
DT>> Uue will be coming soon. And in general, it is much more convenient that
DT>> creates
DT>> its own database of messages - you can rub any message, then
DT>> compress the post file... I never dreamed of this with ZE.

DT>> And all the shortcomings you describe have long been eliminated...
DT>> In general, L.C. I think they threw 1.80 here. If it doesn’t come through, I can
DT>> throw it in with soap. ;)

VK> In 3.0 there is already a yuuker, though without hobet...

What for hobet? Over there they made an anhobeta with a uyyuker, and
it’s glitchy. =(((
In general - there are 2 dehobeters - under trdos and isdos, and
under trdos there is a full-fledged hobeta (it cares/dislikes
steeringly and for a sweet soul).

Good bye !
Here waz Dmitriy AKA Raven.
zx...@hotmail.com>

... Pintium is a hot dog ...

DT> Caught! Steering wheel!
But not that much of a steering wheel...
The glitch with not substituting SEEN-BY still occurs.
How long will it take to edit STS packages??? And the messages are saved glitchy.
Savish mesagu, you load it into ZX-WORD, but it has glitches.
In addition to the text, there are so many things in it, ZhV-[ ]
For some reason, Lara completely refuses to forward.
It would be nice if someone finished it.

DT> What for? Over there they made an anhobeta with a uyuyuker, and
DT> it’s glitchy. =(((
DT> In general - there are 2 dehobeters - under trdos and isdos, and
DT> under trdos there is a full-fledged hobeta (it wants/dislikes
DT> steering and for the sake of a sweet soul).

I thought so too when I did it :-)

Getting crazy, KVA of E-mage. [2:451/17.33] [500:152/1.13] [k...@softhome.net]

Can't you post it in the echo, huh? Otherwise, we don’t have a steering hobta, only
one by X-Project (v1.9). It works correctly, but it downloads
one file at a time :( .

And in Lara, the debugger (and hobet) is very necessary!
You just zip and zip around, and you also need to run Hobeta.

Well, that’s it. Goodbye, Dmitriy.

When will Lara learn to look at a CMOS clock?!

Good luck.
Roman.

24 Oct 98 Oleg Pritula wrote hoping that Dmitriy Timokhin would read:

OP> But this is especially pleasing, because Zed's buggy UUE overlays practically don't
OP> work (at least for me).
OP> 2All: does everyone have a similar problem?

They work, but with a bunch of caveats. Like “don’t wear white, don’t wear tight clothes...”

OP> I hope the authors of Lara won’t allow this.

I hope too. But I see Lara does sections of 200-odd lines. In any
fidosh echo they will plus it!

To Viktor Kuzmin: We need to make sure that after selecting a file, requests will appear
Hobeta [Y/N]?, size sections [120]? - somehow so that you can enter a new
value for the number of lines in a section, if more than 120 are needed.

All the best.
Roman.

Oh! This is cool!
Can you install two or three at the same time? (Really necessary!)

All the best.
Roman.

One day on the 01 Nov 98 at exactly 17:38:03 Denis Cherepanov
wrote to Viktor Kuzmin on the topic 'ZED Glitch':

DC> Savish message, you load it into ZX-WORD, and it has glitches.
DC> In addition to the text, there are so many things in it that can be ZhV-[ ]

Actually, you need to have 3.1, save is fine there, only in Word you need to select the “fix” option in
commands, then codes #0a will be added at the beginning of each
line.

DC> For some reason, Lara completely refuses to forward.
DC> It would be nice if someone finished it.

Who said? I didn’t notice how this manifests itself...

├┤i Dmitry & Denis !

[...]

DS> but in general it’s not clear what to do when the posts fill the entire disk?
Then
DS> everything goes to hell ;-(

Probably... It's no better in zed.

But you need to 1. movie the discs. 2. delete what you read. 3. read.

W!7h Be$7 W!$he$, FK0.

Once upon a time the numbers 05 Nov 98 at exactly 02:08:00 Kirill Frolov
wrote to Dmitry Sharikov on the topic 'ZED glitch':

DS>> will fill the entire disk? Then everything goes to hell ;-(
KF> Probably... It's no better in zed.

What's in zed?

KF> But you need to 1.movie the disks. 2.delete what you read.
KF> 3.read.

I don’t understand, more details, pls.

With best wishes, Dmitry.

VK>> In 3.0 there is already a yuuker, though without hobet's...
RM> And when will Lara learn to look at a CMOS clock?!

And I already have one ;-)))
But only at those that I have, i.e. they are getting stuck into SMUC
(we are starting to act according to the principle “for ourselves”)
;-)))

With best wishes, Dmitry.

RM> Oh! This is cool!
RM> Is it possible to install two or three at the same time? (It’s very necessary!)

It’s possible, it’s possible, but it’s only advisable to indicate in “setap.p” for which aria which
aka, otherwise you never know....

For this, let me bow out. Sincerely, Andrey Khoroshilov.

...The mind is stronger than the chest. Hippies are people too.
...What were you going to see there? Glass fabric? And thought from electrons?

DS> And I’m already looking ;-)))

Come on!.. now let’s start producing left-handed versions!
The authors should do this.
We have AXLR here right away, even for v1.5 I entered the time on the 0th track. But
this, imho, is half measures...

All the best.
Roman.

Better SEVERAL _MASKS_NAME_.

W!7h Be$7 W!$he$, FK0.

DS> I don’t understand, more details, pls.

I’ll explain - if you don’t delete the mail you read, then
the disk will run out. I could have guessed it myself.

W!7h Be$7 W!$he$, FK0.

├┤i Dmitry & Roman !

[...]

DS> But only those that I have, i.e. they get stuck into SMUC
DS> (we begin to act according to the principle “for ourselves”)

You are a bad person. And if KVA takes your example ???

W!7h Be$7 W!$he$, FK0.

DC> And once created, echoes in a post cannot be killed. What does
DC> mean? Create a new post when any echo is disabled???

No, don’t kill...

[...]
DC> Yes, I never edited them! It worked fine all the time!!!
DC> And 3.00 also processes long .pkt files. This is the steering wheel!!!

For as long as I can remember, we were always processing ...

[....]

KF> I’ll explain - if you don’t delete the mail you read, then
KF> the disk will run out. I could have guessed it myself.

So the disk in Lara can also run out, you need to remove it in the same way, but there are an order of magnitude less brakes...

With best wishes, Dmitry.

KF> You are not a good person. And if KVA takes you as an example???

Here’s a joke for you on this topic: - I took the example from KVA ;-)))
Because he once told me that he doesn’t have space,
so he doesn’t provide support for it. But I want a watch... ;-)))

With best wishes, Dmitry.

So, that’s the point, it doesn’t have to be the entire disk. I was dying of posts with 10 messages, and a weight of 400 kilos...

DS> --- Rat Lariska is 3.0 meters long ;-)
Damn, it’s crazy that I didn’t think of writing this myself :( But
this Lariska - Rat is a favorite character in cartoons
about Cheburashka... :)

I love you, kiss you... DAN.

06 Oct 98 02:18, Dmitry Sharikov -> Roman Milukov:

VK>>> In 3.0 there is already a viewer, albeit without hobets...
RM>> And when will Lara learn to look at a CMOS clock?!
DS> And me already looks ;-)))
DS> But only at those that stand next to me, i.e. they get stuck into SMUC
DS> (we begin to act according to the principle “for ourselves”)
DS> ;-)))
her.... This is too bad a principle. must be done for everyone.:)

With respect SP/PoS.

DS>> And I’m already looking ;-)))
RM> Well, come on!.. now let’s start producing leftist versions!
RM> The authors should do this.

Did he distribute it? I didn’t give it to anyone, especially since this is not the final
version.
But the authors refuse ;-(

RM> Here AXLR immediately, back in 1.5, made the entry
RM> of the time on the 0th track. But
RM> these, imho, are half measures...

I don’t know what about half measures, but the clock doesn’t bother me at all

DS> But only those that I have, i.e. they are stuck in SMUC
DS> (we begin to act according to the principle “for ourselves”)
DS> ;-)))
So tell me who the thread is, how can I get a SMUC watch???????

Andrey was with you.

VK> Catch 3.10, I threw it in ZX.SPECTRUM...
I believe that I threw it. We caught it a long time ago and are working on it. And then Lara 3.2 crawled in. So finally it’s buggy. He doesn't even know how to do .pkt. :( She asked me: make pkt, for about 15 minutes she crawled around on the disk, but
didn’t do anything good.

November 11, 1998, 01:02, Dmitry Sharikov wrote to Denis Cherepanov on the topic
"ZED glitch":

[skipped]

DS> Simply, Word requires that the code #0a be at the beginning of the line,

Hmmm. All my life I thought that this code was at the end of the line ;)

[skipped]

Happy connections.
Roman.

November 14, 1998, already 00:00

DS>> ;-)))
AI> So tell me how can I get the SMUC clock???????

For example, through the TM functions, or you can directly, but I haven’t figured it out yet,
so I can only say about the function that works with the clock:

RST 8: DEFB #89
The operation code is set in the D register (in separate bits):
7 - (1) write time or date value, (0) read
6 - (1) read into buffer (only if bit 7=0)
5 - (1) direct read (6 bytes of data from CMOS),
(0) read in ASCII format
0 - (1) work with date, (0) work with time

The function returns data either to the buffer (as an ASCII string, or 6 bytes:
sec, min, hours, day, month, year), or in registers C - sec/day, B - min/month,
E - hours/year, L - day of the week. In the same registers, values ​​are set for changing the time or date. The CY bit indicates an error (no m/cx CMOS)

PS. The most reliable thing is to use it directly, and not in ASCII, when I tried to read in ASCII, the data of the last entry into the TM was returned. In general, I always
use to work with time
D=#20, and with date D=#21.

With best wishes, Dmitry.

RA> Hmmm. All my life I thought that this code was at the end of the line ;)

If the end of the line is #0d, then #0a will be at the beginning. 8)

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RA> ;)

And if you look from the other side, what after #0d is a new line? ;-)

With best wishes, Dmitry.