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Sorry for the lame question, but I’m tired of suffering:
tell me how to make a subject in LARA? I mean, how should I format the letter itself and what flags should be included?
With best wishes, Alexander Vlasov.
KF> Lara transfers only files of the PKT type - you need to correct this matter in STS
KF> I made it so that it transferred files using the first 4 characters from the name
KF> of my station, and changed the CFG people when calling different bosses, and so on
KF> launch
KF> Melon immediately started calling the boss - actually, I didn’t launch it
by hand,
KF> MMD launched it for me at the right time, and there was a timeout for reset from CMOS.
No need for any sts, Melon 1.9 will help you, it sends files with
req extension, so go ahead.
Vladimir AKA Envoy/PHT
... one head is good, and two are starting to get smart...
20 Dec 99 16:04, Alexander Vlasov wrote to All:
AV> Sorry for the lame question, but I’m tired of suffering:
AV> tell me how to make a subject in LARA?
NO WAY.
AV> I mean, how to format the letter itself and what flags should be
AV> enabled ?
A letter is not needed.
LARA must send a text file *.REQ (*-any 8 characters
_valid_),
inside the file in each line by the name of the requested file. But initially
AV> tell me how to make a subject in LARA? I mean, how to
AV> format the letter itself and what flags should be included?
about the flag, set the "File Request" flag...
Good luck, Alexander Vlasov!
Anton Kriwoshea aka $k1v/M7H (orp.'99.
One day on Wednesday December 22, 1999 at 02:38:04, while wiping a hot modem with a wet
rag, I
noticed how Kirill Frolov and Alexander Vlasov were arguing on the topic file_request:
KF> A letter is not needed.
KF> LARA should transfer a text file *.REQ (*-any 8 characters
KF> _valid_),
KF> inside the file in each line by the name of the requested file. But initially
KF> Lara transfers only files of the PKT type - you need to correct this matter in STS
KF>.
Boy, you should turn on your Spectrum sometimes. PKT sends Melon or
Wild.
S!ncerely Yours,
Leonid Mishankov.
AK> about the flag, set the "File Request" flag...
Why? With such success you can offer a prayer to Allah...
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
LM> Boy, you should turn on your Spectrum sometimes. PKT sends
LM> Melon or Wild.
:-)
Well, I mixed up a little, peed myself... And the spectrum is still on.
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
There is no need to suffer. Lara has nothing to do with it, it's the soaper. But Melon is not designed for this. Better suffer the "Wild" attitude. Even though he is in is-dos, he freaks
with ease.
All the best.
Sincerely, Roman.
21 Dec 1999 you wrote here:
VB> No need for any text messages, Melon 1.9 will help you, it sends files with
VB> req extension, so go ahead.
Has Dismaster really released a new version of Melom?!!
KF> Why? With such success, you can offer a prayer
KF> to Allah...
I, IMHO, answered you in kharkov.spectrum on this issue, but
I repeat ;), you can create a regular frack (like a letter), generate a pkt (set the
FileRequest flag), rename
handles to .REQ, and run Melon 1.9 (IMHO - so).
you It’s easy to say, this whole thing has been implemented on Petse, but
they started doing this kind of thing a long time ago, and on the Spectrum relatively recently,
therefore a lot goes through the cracks, but
if you want, you can be patient ;)
Good luck to you, Kirill Frolov!
AK> I, IMHO, answered you in kharkov.spectrum on this issue, but
AK> I’ll repeat myself ;), you can create a regular crack (like a letter), generate a
AK> pkt (set the FileRequest flag), rename it manually to .REQ, and
AK> run Melon 1.9 (IMHO - so).
How complicated everything is. Can you explain to me why a PKT is needed at all?
For particularly advanced mailers?
AK> It’s easy for you to say, this whole thing has been implemented on PETSE, but
AK> they started doing similar things there a long time ago, and on the Spectrum it’s relatively
AK> only recently, so a lot of things go through the cracks, but if you want,
AK> then you can be patient ;)
Ha I was doing this on the Spectrum more than a year ago already. Everything was done
using 2 programs - Melon 1.80, ZXWORD.
In ZXWORD I wrote a request, one file per line, and sent it with Melon.
Only Melon had to be tweaked a little so that it would send requests.
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
RM> Has Dismaster really released a new version of Melom?!!
The version of Melon 1.9 is his, but perhaps it would never have seen the light of day :( At the SSG he
distributed the source codes to everyone who was there, although for some reason most of them did not
throw them away from him.
I modified some things in it, as a result of which it improved somewhat,
but at the same time there is deterioration.
I added only a few useful things:
1. Cursor control in the menu.
2. Repeat dialing when you press the spacebar in the soaper.
3. Slightly sped up the dialing process in the soaper.
4. Removed the indication on the border - this is a useless thing for me, but a lot of people have already scolded me for this ;)
5. Page-by-page. flipping in the file selection menu (I still didn’t understand how he
made the flipping, and put other keys, cs+3, cs+4).
6. Removed the initial picture when loading, which once bothered me
to such an extent that the spacebar had to be repaired.
28 Dec 99 22:01, Vladimir Burenin wrote to Roman Milukov:
VB> him. We need to discuss something about ANSI, otherwise it’s a mess on the Spectrum
VB> on the IRC it’s a bit bad to sag, you have to constantly clean the screen...
~~~~~~~~
:-( )
HOW ???
HOW TO ??? Spectrum on the Internet ?
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
KF> ~~~~~~~~
KF> :-( )
KF> HOW ???
God Kiril, if you climbed out to the IRC, preferably at night from 0:00-1:00 I go there
if you don’t believe me, ask Mednonogov, or Artie, or Point777, or HSC,
in short, a lot of people there is...
KF> K A K ??? Spectrum on the Internet?
Yes, it’s usually like that... ;) I surfed the Internet on Spec and that’s all, it’s a little bad
to surf the www-s, but it will do anyway, it’s much better on the IRC, if not for
one glitch... I already wrote which one...
At least it will be soon. Work is already underway. :)))
Good luck! Evgeny. (Aka 2:5057/18.73) ■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.
Tuesday December 28 1999 22:01, Vladimir Burenin ─── Roman Milukov:
VB> 2EM: And you make a normal (or rather slightly abnormal) ANSI emulation,
How’s that? Today, on the contrary, I’m going to catch all the glitches (that I notice) with ANSI.
VB> there is the same problem as in Melon + a crooked image if you surf the
VB> Internet, look how an ansishnik emulates in Melon,
Through a UNIX machine? Then it’s not ANSI’s fault, but the default VT-100.
This is exactly what I’m dealing with now. :))
VB> RPI, the last lines are printed in only one place, and the screen
VB> must scroll and then be printed.
There was once a similar idea. We need to return to it now.
VB> dialing a number when you press the space bar in the dialer. 3. Slightly speeded up the process
VB> of dialing in the soaper.
Eeeeeee... Why speed it up? I threw a string of characters into the modem - and that’s it.
VB> leaflet, and set other keys, cs+3, cs+4). 6. The initial
VB> image during loading has been removed, which once annoyed me to such an extent that the
VB> space had to be repaired.
This is all bullshit. Are you going to do macros? I already did that. :)) The queue is behind you. :))
VB>> him. We need to discuss something about ANSI, otherwise it’s a mess on the Spectrum
VB>> on the IRC it’s a bit bad to sag, you have to constantly clean the screen...
KF> ~~~~~~~~
KF> :-( )
KF> HOW ???
VB>> 4. Macros _must_ be up to 255 characters long, MANDATORY, since
VB>> the space does not fit into 1 macro in a melon.
KF> :-)
KF> Good argument. Maybe it’s better to make a simple mailer?
What if the mailer refuses to work with my node? As was the case with melon.
I solved this problem only manually. Poking around in Melon did not lead to positive
results.
VB>> 9. Make support for the 80-character mode.
KF> Is it like in TLW? Symbols 8x3 dots ?
Have you heard about such a mode as 512*192 dots?
VB>> And make such a joke, inverse font, not inverse, slightly
VB>> gray (through a dot). So to speak, keep more flowers. I hope
VB>> you can do everything? At least I hope.
KF> If you make such fonts in an 8x3 matrix, then you won’t find a single letter you know
KF>.
They do it just for you. With font 8*3.
I saw on Saturday, January 1, 2000. at 11:45:46 a letter
from you, I went to drink beer and sat down to cook up an answer for you...
VB> 2DD (dismaster): respond urgently. For some reason my soap doesn't get you
VB>, I'm already tired of sending letters, maybe you
VB> have soap, then write from it.
Try through Squiser. I don’t remember the “number” :) Kharkov, but they have the Squiser
110th node there! :)
Well, that's all, Vladimir! Don't lose sight...
Sincerely, Midi
e-mail: [mid...@usa.com]^[mid...@mail.ru]
[REAL.ZX Team][Energy Minds team][Freedom team][X-Project team]
If in matpice 8x3 to make such spifty, then you not one letter familiar will not
find.
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
KF>> Is this like in TLW? Symbols 8x3 dots?
VB> Have you heard about such a mode as 512*192 dots?
Yes, but what? There's no way you can get 80 letters there, only 85.
KF>> If you make such fonts in an 8x3 matrix, then you won't find a single letter
KF>> familiar.
VB> They do this exactly for you. With a font 8*3.
No, I’ve had enough of TLW with a MOA sypyemka...
But how can you make a “holey” font in a 6x8 matrix?
Draw me the letter “A”, for example.
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
KF> It was necessary to identify the problem, and not invent something like this.
Don’t you like it? then don’t use it, as for me it’s fine, dial
to the node the first time (Senks, to our boss Evgeniy Tyukaev), the connection in the evening
rules,
there are no problems, I got through, ran the macros, and pressed DL and that’s it, you can rest,
wait for the mail to arrive.
Somehow Wednesday January 5, 2000 at 00:54:34
Kirill Frolov and Vladimir Burenin were arguing about file_request
well, I decided to throw in a few words
KF> Press RESET immediately, Vladimir !
KF> 03 Jan 00 23:16, Vladimir Burenin wrote to Kirill Frolov:
KF>>> K A K ??? Spectrum on the Internet?
EM>> At least it will be soon. Work is already underway. :)).
That is. skips through each line? Why is this necessary?
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
KF>> That is. skips through each line? Why is this necessary?
VB> Skips not through a line, but through a period!
Can you count? There will be 1 dot between the lines, you will stop distinguishing different
lines...
And will you also draw the letters M N AND Y W?
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
Thursday December 30 1999 23:33, Vladimir Burenin ─── Evgeny Milun:
EM>> Through a UNIX machine? Then it’s not ANSI’s fault, but the default VT-100.
EM>> This is exactly what I’m dealing with now. :))
VB> Yes, I log in through a Unix machine, but! Ansi terminal, this is awesome.
VB> At the beginning of the line there are a bunch of problers, i.e. the text starts not at the beginning
VB> of the screen, but somewhere in the middle, this should not happen.
Let's see. But, IMHO, this is no longer ANSI’s fault.
VB> The most important thing is that on the monitor of the Unix machine itself, exactly the same nonsense as
VB> displays your terminal, but at the same time, in one Mastday
VB> terminal there is no such thing, just like in Melon.
If this is ANSI - horizontal tabulation - then, if necessary, of course
you can do turning it off.
EM>> This is all bullshit. Are you going to do macros? I already did that. :))
VB> The queue
EM>> is behind you. :))
VB> What macros?!! I think they were in Melon a long time ago,
Oh, sorry, I forgot.
VB> but today I made them up to 255 characters long,
I am limited only by the total length - so far only 8Kb (i.e. somewhere
up to 32 macros with a length of 255). Since macros are purely text strings, then
the length of a specific macro is affected only by the length limitation in the text
editor, in which everythingthis will be edited.
VB> By the way, do it a little differently in Melon:
VB> 1. so that to receive file transfers you have to press not like you did, but
VB> like Melone, i.e. pgup. pgdown ;)
Is this through triple and inverse video? And then where to hang the real functions
PgAp, PgDown?
VB> 2. It is advisable to hang macros on numbers, i.e. extmode, and then on numbers.
I have them on symbols. Ext + M + macro key. A little more complicated, but IMHO more flexible
in configuration.
VB> 3. preferably, of course, a mailer,
No. This is a completely separate program. I'm already working on it. :) There will be a so-called BinkStyle mailer. (With events, by the way :)) )
VB> 4. Macros _must_ be up to 255 characters long, MANDATORY, since
VB> the space does not fit into 1 macro in a melon.
Read above. In the C-Terminal itself there are no restrictions on the size of the macro
.
VB> 5. In the future it would not be bad to write scripts, but that doesn’t matter later.
Yes. There was an idea to do this too. But for now it was sacrificed to macros.
VB> 6. Correct zmodem a little, otherwise it conflicts a little with melon during transfer
VB>...
Uh... And where and how exactly? As far as I know, I have an almost standard zmodem. My only “gain” should be absolutely transparent to everyone. What exactly is the conflict?
VB> 7. So that the files in the listwere not from left to right, but from top to
VB> bottom, so it’s much more readable on the Spectrum.
Well, this is just a tribute to the traditions of reading from left to right and down. :))
VB> 8.
VB> to be able to directly upload a text file, i.e. specified
VB> which file and it is sent to the recipient in the form of direct text, i.e. in the form of
VB> such a huge macro ;)
This is called the ASCII protocol. :) This is also possible. There's not much to do there. It just breaks for now. :)
VB> 9. Make support for 80-character mode. And make such a joke,
VB> inverse font, not inverse, slightly gray (with a dot).
And here - complete bolts until I assemble this gadget for myself.
KF>> :-)
KF>> Good argument. Maybe it’s better to make a simple mailer?
VB> What if the mailer refuses to work with my node? As was the case with melon.
VB> I solved this problem only manually. Poking around in Melon did not lead to positive
VB> results.
These are, indeed, mailer problems. This means that it is so crookedly made.
There is an EMSI standard, and _all_ mailers should support it. At least
all the control systems satisfy him (if I'm not mistaken, they were approved by the official
committee on FTN technologies)... Conclusion ?
By the way, it’s interesting, how did you make it? So far today I have come up with two
such tricks:
1) When uploading, everything looks normal, only the logging mode
is disabled (instead of its indicator, the “S” indicator lights up). Everything is simultaneously displayed both on the modem and on the screen. Retention either when the file is completely transferred, or when the break is pressed.
2) When downloading - the usual file receiving screen (how many received, CPU, errors
etc.). The reception continues either until a pause of a few seconds or until a break. The log, of course, is disabled. The reception goes to the file buffer.
Due to the peculiarities of the terminal, every 16Kb the transmitter pauses
for 2-4 seconds.
With all this, hardware flow control (CTS/RTS signals) is taken into account.
How about you?
2ALL: Join the discussion. In the end it's up to you to use it. :)
2VB: I have come up with such a crazy idea - what if we jointly write a soaper (really a soaper; more precisely, a mail robot)? :))
KF>>> K A K ??? Spectrum on the Internet?
EM>> At least it will be soon. Work is already underway. :)))
KF> Work on the created ZX-internet explorer ?
KF> Can you count? There will be a gap between the lines of 1 dot, you will stop distinguishing between different
KF> lines...
I can count perfectly well, but you can’t, since those points that should not have
been destroyed were missing.
KF> And will you also draw the letters M N AND Y W?
You? no.
EM> And here there are complete bolts until I assemble this gadget for myself.
Let you finish the version that will be and I will remake it for 512 points?
Just write where and how, i.e. control characters and the like,
I hope it won’t be difficult, except with windows... the place under them to remember,
but
this is not such a problem, it seems like the procedures for working with windows in this mode
I already have ready ;)
Only then you will have to use more than 128 Spectrum for this, since
the printing procedures are too extensive with the font, I hope I’ll invest in 4 pages
;) But how quickly ;)
In general, I will provide as much assistance as possible in creating your terminal ;)
She rules !!!!
EM> These are, indeed, mailer problems. This means that it is so crookedly made.
EM> There is an EMSI standard, and _all_ mailers should support it. At least
EM> at least
EM> all the PCs satisfy him (if I'm not mistaken, they are approved by the official
EM> committee on FTN technologies)... Conclusion?
You would know how serious the problems are... For example, I set the next
line to be received, it accepts until the first pause (and did the same before enter), but _constantly_
at
the beginning, some kind of bullshit slips through, i.e. I can’t really figure out what the boss is up to... in short, glitches... I’m already sick of it.
But look at what actions I’m doing:
1. I’m sending the emsidat right away (on a Unix machine they play such jokes)
2. I take ASK490
3. I accept EMSI_DAT
4. I receive a request to upload a file, if not, then I put it on hold.
5. Be sure to press break...
6. Departure from download mode to receive.
And I accept...
I do exactly the same actions in the mailer, and I’m met with nothing but butter...
Uploading the file will download, but nothing to download...
Already my brain is boiling...
EM> By the way, it’s interesting, how did you make it? So far today I have come up with two such tricks: 1) When uploading, everything looks normal, only the logging mode is disabled (instead of its indicator, the “S” indicator lights up). Everything is simultaneously displayed
EM> both on the modem and on the screen. Leaving either when the file is completely transferred, or when
EM> the break is pressed.
Ghrm... And on the screen for what sins? ;)
Let the one who receives suffer ;)
Why transmit and read this in real time?!! ;)
My brains don’t cook at that speed ;), and if they start cooking, then I’ll end up in a psychiatric hospital ;)
EM> 2) When downloading, the usual screen for receiving a file (how many received, CPU, errors
EM>, etc.). The reception continues either until a pause of a few seconds or until a break. The log
EM> is naturally disabled. The reception goes to the file buffer.
EM> Due to the peculiarities of the terminal, every 16Kb the transmitter pauses
EM> for 2-4 seconds.
EM> With all this, hardware flow control is taken into account (signals
EM> CTS/RTS).
EM> How about you?
It’s so simple !!
First of all, there is no need to count any TRCs! This is just a direct transfer of information, where
doesn’t care about complete byte precision. The protocol is text, but what is the end code
of the text file? A ? That's right 26! That's the whole problem ;)
EM> 2ALL: So join indiscussion. In the end it's up to you to use it. :)
Yeah!
EM> 2VB: I have come up with such a crazy soap here - what if we together
EM> write a soaper (really a soaper; more precisely, a mail robot)? :)).
I’m sitting here listening to music and seeing that Kirill Frolov wrote to Evgeny Milun:
temporarily from Max Shashkin
KF>>> K A K ??? Spectrum on the Internet?
EM>> At least it will be soon. Work is already underway. :)))
KF> Work on creating the ZX-internet explorer ?
more precisely zx-linux-internet
VB>>> the initial picture when loading, which once
VB>>> bothered me to such an extent that the space had to be repaired.
EM>> This is all bullshit. Are you going to do macros? Otherwise I already did.
EM>> :)) It’s your turn. :))
KF> Melon originally had macros.
and where did they go, for some reason Byrenin did not restore them
KF> Kirill Frolov.
KF> [ZX]
-=Priest AkA Vitalik=-
EM> IMHO more flexible in settings.
All perverts... It’s the same for the unfortunate owners of 40-button keyboards
you need to press 4 buttons at the same time!
Maybe like in MMD - Initially EXT, then the letter of the macro.
EM> There will be a so-called BinkStyle mailer. (With events, by the way :))
EM> )
On tr-dos disk? :-( )
EM> No. Rather, via an Internet browser. Through a Unix machine. :)
No, I understand that the browser is some kind of pisyuk, and to you
only letters are transmitted? Well, like Spectrum - terminal only. So not
interesting...
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
AS> and where did they go? For some reason Byrenin didn’t restore them
Previously, you had to press EXT and then ENTER or a number...
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
KF>> you will stop distinguishing different lines...
VB> I can count perfectly well, but you can’t, because those points are not necessary
0 1 2 3 4 5
┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐
0 │ │ │ │ │ │ │
├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
1 │ │ │ │ │ │ │ <- Try it here
├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤ draw the letter “M”
2 │ │ │ │ │ │ │ with “holes” and one at a time
├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤ point in one cell...
3 │ │ │ │ │ │ │
├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤ Neither in width
4 │ │ │ │ │ │ │ it turns out, nor in height!
├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
5 │ │ │ │ │ │ │
├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
6 │ │ │ │ │ │ │
├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
7 │ │ │ │ │ │ │
└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
EM> together we will write a soaper (really a soaper; more precisely, a mail robot)?
On a TR-DOS disk? No, it’s not for me, it’s you who should be given the Nobel Prize
It will be... Fantastic...
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
06 Jan 00 23:03, Vladimir Burenin wrote to Evgeny Milun:
VB> The protocol is text, but what is the code for the end of a text file? And ?
VB> Correct 26! That's the whole problem ;)
You can't start a decreasing counter?
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
06 Jan 00 22:19, Vladimir Burenin wrote to Evgeny Milun:
VB> Let you finish the version that will be and I will remake it for 512
VB> points? Just write where and how, i.e. what kind of control characters and
[...]
VB> Only then will you have to use more than 128 Spectrums for this, since
VB> as the printing procedures are too extensively deployed with the font, I hope I’ll invest in 4
VB> pages ;)
And I somehow invested in a little less than 4kb... And the ANSI
would have fit in there instead the crap that was there...
If you had worked for small software, there would have been no price!
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
KF> And I somehow invested in a little less than 4kb... And ANSi
KF> would have fit in there instead of the crap that was there...
Well, you... In my unopened form, the program only takes up about 8.5 kb,
i.e. 4 fonts, font cruncher, print reader cruncher.
And your brake turned out to be the most natural.
And have you forgotten that you can’t write a program on a Speckie that will execute as quickly as possible and take up a minimum of RAM.
KF> You should work on small software - there wouldn’t be a price!
damn, I’m about to start swearing !!!
2:Tim Kelly do something!
KF> 0 1 2 3 4 5
KF> ┌─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┐
KF> 0 │ │ │ │ │ │ │
KF> ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
KF> 1 │*│ │ │ │*│ │ <- Try here
KF> ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤ draw the letter “M”
KF> 2 │ │*│ │*│ │ │ with “holes” and one
KF> ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤ point in one cell...
KF> 3 │*│ │*│ │*│ │
KF> ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤ Neither in width
KF> 4 │ │ │ │ │ │ │ it turns out, nor in height!
KF> ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
KF> 5 │*│ │ │ │*│ │
KF> ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
KF> 6 │ │ │ │ │ │ │
KF> ├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
KF> 7 │*│ │ │ │*│ │
KF> └─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘
Broken off?
Or you can just use a different font...
VB>> Well, there you go... In my unopened form, the program is only about 8.5
AM> kb, i.e. 4 fonts, font cruncher, print printer cruncher.
AM> this is not a reason to be proud.
Who should be proud?
Rather, you want to say that I’m proud, and not the other way around.
VB>> And your brake turned out to be the most natural.
VB>> And have you forgotten that you can’t write a program on a Speckie that will be
AM> as fast as possible
VB>> be executed, and take up a minimum of RAM.
AM> but you can find a good speed/memory ratio.
It is possible, but not necessary. For me, speed is more important than volume, and if a person
has problems with RAM, then that’s his problem. I personally don’t give a damn about 128
machines lately, since it’s almost impossible to write software normally for these 128
s. Quite a lot of time has already passed that, as a last resort,
save 10 kopecks a day and go ask someone for dibs
expand.
I look at things like initial volume, i.e. the minimum (how much RAM
then it will take up - it will take up - the maximum), and the speed is the maximum.
AM> Because FOUR jars just for typing is really complete insanity.
For 4 fonts it’s not insanity, 1 font per 1 jar.
AM> Do you read the text from the screen so quickly that the scrolling is too slow?
Can you show me with your finger where something is written about scrolling? Nowhere. Afast
output especially in text editors and terminals - oh, how necessary.
In general - yes.
In my text editor (512*192 pixel) I distort it as much as I can, but scrolling
in 2 frames does not suit me, I’m very used to Storm’s frame one, since
with frame scrolling everything is easy to read. But alas, with this mode this is not possible.
I'll post a demo version in a couple of days.
AM> No? - then why speed up so much that there is no memory left for anything useful?
I have enough space for something useful.
08 Jan 00 02:02, Vladimir Burenin wrote to Kirill Frolov:
VB> Broken off?
VB> Or you can just use a different font...
No. You have a gap of one pixel between the lines.
You can break your eyes. It’s good when the line spacing is equal to
half the height of the letter or more.
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
09 Jan 00 18:28, Vladimir Burenin wrote to Aleksandr Majorov:
VB> In a couple of days I'll send a demoversion. Frolov. [ZX]
VB> 8.5 kb, i.e. 4 fonts, font cruncher, typeprint cruncher. And you
Explain to me why there are 4 fonts? One is enough -> from it you can
make as much as you need.
VB> the brake turned out to be the most natural. And have you forgotten that in Specky
VB> you can’t write a program that will execute as quickly as possible, and
VB> take up a minimum of RAM.
You can’t :-( But the optimal solution is not necessarily the fastest.
And I was limited by < 2kb of code, I had to put
both the screen and the font and printer.
EM>> together we will write a soaper (really a soaper; more precisely a mail
EM>> robot) ?
KF> On a TR-DOS disk? No, this is not for me, this is for you, the Nobel Prize
KF> will have to be given... Fantastic...
It is possible on TR-DOS, if you don’t aim for a lot of traffic.
For many, this will be quite enough, and for a long time.
You just need to make it easy to install and configure.
But there are still no prospects - then you will want to Winchester, but no way. :(
We'll either have to modify TR-DOS, or switch to a normal axis...
Someone would make a tosser for the Scavs, or something...
All the best.
Roman.
:( Where it was unclear -
December 28, 1999 you wrote here:
VB> The version of Melon is 1.9, but perhaps it would never have seen the light of day :(
[...]
VB> I added only a few useful things:
VB> 1. Cursor control in the menu.
Excellent, otherwise This Q-A,O-P was pretty annoying.
VB> 4. I removed the indication on the border - this is a useless thing for me, but
VB> a lot of people have already scolded me for this ;)
They scolded me correctly, the indication is needed.
In version 1.6 there was an excellent indication - the first two bytes of the screen - it was there. It’s very
convenient to watch the process and didn’t irritate me. And the whole border is, of course,
too much... But it’s better than nothing.
VB> 6. Removed the initial picture when loading, which once
VB> annoyed me to such an extent that the gap had to be repaired.
:)))
All the best.
Roman.
[ZX]
VB>> but a lot of people have already scolded me for this ;)
RM> They scolded me correctly, an indication is needed.
RM> In version 1.6 there was an excellent indication - the first two bytes of the screen - it was
RM> very convenient to observe the process and was not annoying. And the whole border is,
RM> of course, too much... But it’s better than nothing.
Well, yes... Some have a border, and some have a whole screen that changes color...
But why the display? It’s better to fix the Z-modem so that the numbers
show everything correctly (and quickly).
... no day without speccy!