CD-WALK v1.1

Today I riveted the subject. He will go to Newska. It differs from the previous program in that the minimum requirements for its operation have changed. Due to numerous requests, the check for Scorpio and the ProfPZU version has been removed. Now
the program (theoretically) should work on any computer where:
- SMUC is plugged into the connector
- in the TR-DOS ROM (not necessarily Prof!) at address #3FF0 a
sequence of the following 6 bytes is placed (they are all checked): #ED, #79, #C9,
#ED, #78, #C9.

I haven’t started supporting the Nemo controller yet, because I don’t have time - on Monday I’m leaving for a camp to work as a counselor ("Vozpozhdenie", a camp near Roshchino). As a result of this, I will temporarily disconnect from oh. So if anything happens, in a couple of days I will need to write only with soap. And the next version of the program
(with support for 2 controllers - CD-WALK v1.2). I'll scatter it all over the net.

Vega / ex-Style Group. July 19, 2001

Thursday, July 19, 2001, 00:19:00, Vlad Sotnikov -> All
subj: CD-WALK v1.1

VS> - SMUC
VS> is plugged into the connector - into TR-DOS ROM (not necessarily Prof!) at the address #3FF0
VS> a sequence of the following 6 bytes is placed (they are all
VS> checked): #ED, #79, #C9, #ED, #78, #C9.

Yo!!! Cool!!! Owners of Pentgons with SMUC started dancing ;)))

However, you can try to further reduce the requirements ;)

Apparently there are other Tr-Dos firmwares, which also have procedures
reading/writing to ports (In HOBBITs, ATM-turbo, Profi(?), etc), and naturally
since there is no standard, these procedures can be located anywhere, but this
after all will not prevent them from working normally ;)

I propose to give the owners of these units a chance not to reflash the TrDos
ROM when installing SMUC.

To do this (if the detective has already searched for these procedures at #3ff0 and
didn’t find them), you just need to transfer all the TrDos-ROMs somewhere into RAM
(after thoroughly torturing the restart from = #13), and then search there them separately:
byte sequence #ed, #78, #c9, and then #ed, #78, #c9.

Then the program will work on computers with any TrDos firmware, where
there are procedures for reading/writing to ports lying around somewhere, which, imho, may
induce the above-mentioned comrades to purchase SMUC...

...Perversion of course, but what to do? ;)))

VS> Vega / ex-Style Group. July 19, 2001
VS>

Vlad, don’t be bored! WbW, i┌i└/4d.

IV> Yo!!! Cool!!! The owners of Pentgons with SMUC started dancing
IV> ;)))

So I tried :)

IV> However, you can try to lower the requirements further ;)

Where else? :-]

IV> Apparently there are other Tr-Dos firmwares, which also have
IV> procedures for reading/writing to ports (In HOBBITs, ATM-turbo, Profi(?),
IV> etc), and naturally, since there is no standard, these procedures can
IV> be located anywhere, but this will not prevent them from working normally
IV> ;)

No, no will interfere.

IV> I propose to give the owners of these units a chance not to reflash
IV> TrDos ROM when installing SMUC.

And how?

IV> To do this (if the detective has already searched for these procedures at
IV> address #3ff0 and did not find it), you just need to transfer all TrDos-ROM
IV> somewhere in RAM (after thoroughly torturing the restart с=#13), and then
IV> look for them separately: the sequence of bytes #ed, #78, #c9, and
IV> then #ed, #78, #c9.

I can imagine what this torment will turn into. 1024 times 16 bytes from ROM
pull. You can, of course, use the built-in LDIR, but only in different versions it is located in different places. And in general this is a perversion. IMHO, it is much easier
to find out the existing standards of other common ROMs (Profi, etc.), and
justsupport them.

IV> Then the program will work on computers with any firmware
IV> TrDos, where at least somewhere there are procedures for reading/writing to ports,
IV> which, imho, may encourage the above-mentioned comrades to purchase
IV> SMUC...

It will be easier for these comrades to purchase a Nemo controller later when I'll support him. It is cheaper, soldered easily and does not require access from under
TR-DOS. So you won’t have to touch the ROM at all.

IV> ...It’s a perversion, of course, but what to do? ;)))

As I said above. :)

IV> Vlad, don’t be bored! WbW, i┌i└/4d.

Vega / ex-Style Group. July 20, 2001

Once Friday July 20, 2001 at 05:08:00, Vlad and Ilya were arguing about CD-WALK
v1.1

VS> I can imagine what this torment will turn into. 1024 times
VS> 16 bytes from ROM

you won’t be pulling it personally :)

there’s a 20-line program there :)

VS> pulling. You can, of course, use the built-in LDIR
VS>, but only in different
VS> versions it sits in different places. And in general this is a perversion.
VS> IMHO, it is much easier
VS> to find out the existing standards of other common ROMs
VS> (Profi, etc.), and
VS> just support them.

and if you find out about some other ROMs :)

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IV> Yo!!! Cool!!! The owners of Pentgons with SMUC started dancing ;)))
show me at least one of these.
In general, I advise you to read the interview with Rst7 vs comrade Zonov in Spectrum Expert1.
Buying smuk for the sake of copying files from a CD, _IMHO_ is the same as watching
TV without sound;( This is exactly what I meant when I said “too
expensive pleasure."

IV> Apparently there are other Tr-Dos firmwares, which also have
IV> procedures for reading/writing to ports (in HOBBITs, ATM-turbos, Profi(?), etc), and
who has them working now??? in the pros there is a standard 5.04t by C.C. 1991
where there are no such commands at all, on 5.12, 5.13f, 5.13fm, which have become more or less
some kind of standard, these commands sit in the same place as the scorpion.

IV> Then the program will work on computers with any TrDos firmware, where
IV> there are procedures for reading/writing to ports lying around somewhere, which, imho,
IV> may
there are no such DOS
IV> to encourage the above mentioned comrades for the acquisition of SMUC...
to enrich comrade Zonov?
IV> ...It’s a perversion, of course, but what to do? ;)))
change the hardware

s: on the cd mma there is a 512kb romka for scorpion, apparently it is impossible to run it in the emulator
no matter how hard I tried..., I also couldn’t figure out the professional software version.
Who knows how to switch this one take away the damn thing, plz.

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Fri, July 20, 2001, 21:04:27, Yuri Potapov -> Vlad Sotnikov
subj: CD-WALK v1.1

VS>> I can imagine what this torment will turn into. 1024 times
VS>> 16 bytes each from ROM
YP> you won’t be pulling it personally :)
YP> there is a 20-line program there :)

Moreover, this will only need to be done once, the first time you launch
the program on such a unit, and then you can just
save the procedure addresses somewhere and that’s it ;)

VS>> (Pros, etc.), and just support them.
YP> and if you find out about any other ROMs :)

That's it ;) And here it's cheap and cheerful, but universal ;)

YP> [El Capitan Trueno] Yurik aka Jerri / Alien Factory

Vlad, don't be bored! WbW, i┌i└/4D.

Sun, July 22, 2001, 15:31:43, Vassili Klimov -> Ilya Vinogradov
subj: CD-WALK v1.1

IV>> Yo!!! Cool!!! The owners of Pentagons with SMUC
IV>> started dancing ;)))
VK> show me at least one of these.

You'll probably see it on CC'oo1 ;) I think I read about this configuration in
Melon's instructions.
VK> In general, I advise you to read the interview with Rst7 vs comrade Zonov in
VK> Spectrum Expert1.

Well, “Rst7 vs Zonov” is too strong a word, Rst is completely on
autopilot, and in my opinion Zonov’s phrase “a person is about to run out of batteries”
could not refer to the operator at all ;)

And Kan0, such a frame, aka back at Enlight'96 he muddied the waters in a similar way.
But how does all this relate to subj?

VK> Buying smuk for the sake of copying files from a CD, _IMHO_ is all
VK> the same as watching TV without sound;( This is exactly what I
VK> meant when I said “too expensive a pleasure.”

Just the opposite, this is sound without a TV ;)))
But! In addition to copying files from CD, SMUC without ProfROM is also a carefree
installation of Modem, CMOS, interrupt controller (plus the theoretical possibility
of using an HDD marked on Scorpion, if you tweak
VEGA-COMMANDER a little).

IV> What's the difference??? Can you guarantee 100% that _absolutely_ no one has such computers? ;) Even nearby - in Yekaterinburg, the most common computer is "Quorum". Do you know its architecture thoroughly?
IV> A
hehe, who told you that?;)
IV> where is the guarantee that there are not yet crowds of local clones of spec throughout Russia? There are no
IV> guarantees ;)
I said about the pros, ATM seems to have them, about the rest I can say that
they were made back in the days when they didn’t hack DOS, but just flashed
standard 5.03 and 5.04T (some even had 5.01), so with a high degree of
probability we can say that there are no such commands on clones.
IV> In general, the point is that to support _all_ versions of TR-DOS with
IV> the ability
IV> to read/write to arbitrary ports, you need to make _minimal_ effort, and,
it seems so to you
IV> it is possible to save someone from the headache and expense of flashing the ROM
IV> Tr-Dos! And no matter how hard I try, I cannot discern a single reason why
IV> this cannot be done ;)
I have at least a dozen programs that have not gone further than my disks,
because they are strictly tailored for my computer. Well, I’m such a lazy coder that it’s too hard for me to finish it - to cut up the interface, unify the work with disk drives and
memory, writehelp on the buttons finally... And you propose a more or less
full-fledged program to redo and redo. Not a single author, and even for free, will agree to this, or even just spit and forget about everything;(
Maybe I’m wrong (coz, people don’t judge by themselves;-), but I seem to have the right to express my point of view:)

Once Monday July 23, 2001 at 00:31:49, Vassili and Ilya were arguing about
CD-WALK v1.1

VK> about the pros I said, in ATM they seem to be there, about the rest
VK> I can say that
VK> they were made back in the days when they cheated, and
VK> they just sewed up
VK> standard 5.03 and 5.04T (some even had 5.01), so

it’s not a fact... sometimes in ROM you can find something that makes your hair stand on end...

VK> PS: please explain why you have such
VK> anti-predisposition towards people with
VK> soldering irons?

you have such people close to you, and you were probably born with a soldering iron in
your hands...

but here the last tinsmith who dealt with Specs stopped working a year ago, and now finding someone who can, and most importantly wants, is very
problematic, although it is possible...

and for me to solder, it’s better to immediately process the computer with a blowtorch - so that didn't
suffer.

YP> you have such people close to you, and you were probably born with a soldering iron
YP> in
YP> hands...
YP> but our last tinsmith who dealt with Specs stopped working
YP> from
YP> a year ago, and now finding someone who can, and most importantly wants to, is very
YP> problematic, although it is possible...
i.e. Is it easier for you to turn to Nemo or Scorpios?

IV>> started dancing ;)))
VK> show me at least one of these.
VK> In general, I advise you to read the interview with Rst7 vs comrade Zonov in
VK> Spectrum Expert1.
And where is Rst7 and where is Zonov now? I haven't heard about Rst since enlight. And Znov
will sell me GMX.

VK> Buying smuk for the sake of copying files from a CD, _IMHO_ everything
VK> is the same as watching TV without sound;( This is exactly what I
VK> meant when I said “too expensive
VK> pleasure.”
And you can also hang up the screw, write firewood and use is-dos. Imho if So
to judge, no one needs the Nemov controller either, because tr-dos doesn’t support it at all. And SMUC, at least on Scorp. Moreover, although Nemov’s
can be soldered, not everyone can do it, and its price is better than SMUC’s. In short, having SMUC, you have much more opportunities to use it (clocks and isa again). slot) than any other hdd controller.

[Killed.]

Somehow Wednesday July 25, 2001 at 11:08:08, Vassili and Yuri were arguing about CD-WALK
v1.1

YP>> not a fact... sometimes in ROM you can find something that makes your hair
YP>> stand on end...
VK> for example?;)

look at the Hobbit ROM ;)

SZ> Ha Scorp. :) And buy SMUC.
I completely agree (with you, and not Zonov’s policy;), it’s much better than
attaching to the SMUC who knows what...

SZ> imho even mma doesn’t know this. I think he didn’t even check it even once,
SZ> because
SZ> is a rabid fan of the Pentagon, and Scorps only hates.
because. This is out of place, and the program won’t start because it needs to emulate a
secret chip

18 Jul 01 23:19, Vlad Sotnikov ── All:
VS> I haven’t started supporting the Nemo controller yet, because I don’t have time - on
VS> Monday I’m leaving for a camp counselor to work ("Vozpozhdenie", camp
VS> so under Roshchino).

:: Roshchin doesn’t happen to work there? :))

Sincerely, Vadim.

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