> WHY DO I NEED THIS NEOS? I HAVE WINDOWS!

ZXNet echo conference «real.speccy»

From Andrey Isaev To All 11 April 1999

----────═══════════════╡ Hello, Kirill ! ! DO I NEED THIS NEOS?
I HAVE WINDOWS!
I decided to continue this debate:

KF> Yes, I don’t like it, there’s a lot of unnecessary stuff in the kernel, and it takes up 1/4
KF> of the processor’s address space! This is something like a BIOS.
KF> But it was possible to provide the so-called in addresses ff00...ffff. gateway for
KF> transition
KF> to BIOS, and leave the rest of the address space for RAM.
Where were you when all this _here_ was discussed? And besides, you are a vile
emulator and the subject is quite natural for you.

KF> etc. But when this is not the case, and instead there are little understood functions of working with graphics, which will not be in demand in any program because these small programs are most often not called from the computer. from where,
KF> and
KF> are placed directly in the code to speed up work.
When were you not an emulator and did you use it? So all around
even more inhibitory functions are used, but you don’t shout like that.

KF> And finally, why does everyone have such a persistent aversion to CP/M?
Why do you have such a “persistent disgust” for everything that you didn’t write?

KF> It existsand
KF> it works, there are really useful programs there (which you can
KF> count on your fingers).
It is too old, and the technology does not stand still :)

KF> to support this new OS, or, as always, you can use the buggy
KF> ALASM,
KF> XAS, STORM, TASM etc ?
And are they buggy for you? or maybe you don’t have enough microcircuits in your computer?

KF> Why copy existing errors? After all, neither IS-DOS nor TR-DOS is able to ensure the operation of many programs; it is simply impossible to make them work on these OS. And I don't mean their specific implementations, all
KF> problems
KF> are only in the idiotic limitations of these OS.
WiNdOwS rUlEzZz!!!! ;))))))))


KF> Conclusions must be drawn accordingly, improved... And then you can see letters
KF> where
KF> it is written that demos are needed, gams... Well, these are written by emulator people, they just don't
KF> understand why anything else is needed on the Spectrum.
And by the way, you are also an emulator developer, so there is no need to throw a stone in your garden.

KF> However, any appeals here are useless, nothing will help,
KF> emulators will win :-(
Well, write to your friend SqaFix (areafix) what you want -real.speccy

---───══════════════╡ Best regards, Andrey╞══════════════────--


From Moderator of REAL.SPECCY To All 12 April 1999

KF>> occupies 1/4 of the processor address space! This is
KF>> something like a BIOS. But it was possible to provide in the addresses
KF>> ff00...ffff so-called. gateway to go to the BIOS, and leave the rest
KF>> address space for RAM.

AI> Where were you when all this was discussed _here_? And besides, you are a sneaky
AI> emulator and the subject is quite natural for you.

Shhh... Quiet, huh?


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Tim Kelly

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From Kirill Frolov To All 13 April 1999

KF>> TR-DOS is not able to ensure the operation of many programs, they simply
KF>> cannot be made to work on these OS. And I don’t mean their
KF>> specific implementations, all the problems are only in the idiotic
KF>> limitations of these OS.
AI> WiNdOwS rUlEzZz!!!! ;))))))))

And what does Windows have to do with it? Yes, this is off-topic, but you won’t convince
that this is a more advanced OS than neos?

AI> And by the way, you are also an emulator, so there is no need to throw stones in your
AI> garden.

If the main argument is that I am a pisishnik, a bad emulator, and a spy
beat Gates, then argue further useless.

Kirill Frolov. [ZX]


From Andrey Isaev To All 13 April 1999

KF> They have written about THEIR glitches in this echo more than once. And the built-in editors
KF> and their cunning syntax are finally finished off.
Due to the same features of the platform, a built-in editor is
necessarily needed, and the 'cunning syntax' has been around since the development of the z80.

AI>> WiNdOwS rUlEzZz!!!! ;))))))))
KF> What does Windows have to do with it? Yes, this is off-topic, but you won’t convince
KF>,
KF> that this is a more advanced OS than neos?
This is really off-topic.

From Dmitry Grigoryev To All 14 April 1999

KF> that this is a more advanced OS than neos?

Qualitative comparison of what is implemented on different platforms is incorrect in
principle.

KF> Kirill Frolov.

Regards, Dmitry (OLDMAN). 500:095/100.1@ZXNet
old...@i-connect.ru [ZX]