[0/5] XTRMODEM.ZIP
ZXNet echo conference «real.speccy»
* Crossposted in HARDWARE.ZX
Hello, All!
for realists - the long-promised diagram of my connector (xtr-modem).
inside there is a two-color BMP 1100*780, it seems that it can be something on the Spectrum
look at.
All the best.
Dmitry.
... LD..X-TRADE... [ZX]
Friday November 5, 1999, 00:22:51: I was reassured for a long time when I saw your
letter about "[0/5] XTRMODEM.ZIP".
DL> for realists - the long-promised diagram of my connection
DL> (xtr-modem). Inside there is a two-color BMP 1100*780, it looks like
DL> you can view it on the Spectrum.
You can view it. But I’m wondering if people who have problems will want to do something with the subject? If this circuit had appeared about 0.5 years ago,
I would have been immensely happy and would have connected it. And now I’m tormented by doubts... After all
haes
it’s worth it...
I was glad to see you, Dmitry! See you... [Z80 4ever] [Zilog inside] [Sinclair Generation]
... Energy Minds from Freedom & X-Project.
AS> You can view it. But I’m wondering if
AS> people who have problems
AS> will want to do something with the subject? If this scheme appeared
They won’t want it. :)
AS> about 0.5 years ago,
AS> I would have been immensely happy and connected it. And now doubts
AS> are tormented... After all,
AS> haes
AS> is worth...
Okay, remember ZXNet and the real people who are not sitting on haes! This will suit them.
Good luck to you, Alex Shashkevich!
Anton Kriwoshea aka $k1v/M7H (orp.'99.
AS> You can view it. But I’m wondering if people who have
AS> problems will want to do something with the subject? If this circuit had appeared about
AS> 0.5 years ago, I would have been immensely happy and would have connected it. And now
AS> doubts are tormenting...
that’s why she appeared only now ;)
doubts have been tormenting everyone for a long time...
[Z80 4ever] [Zilog inside] [Sinclair Generation]
I was glad to see you, Dmitry! See you...
... Energy Minds from Freedom & X-Project.
Shashkevich and Dmitry Lomov were telling each other noodles about "[0/5]
XTRMODEM.ZIP". I decided to stick my nose in here too:
Once, Mon Nov 08 1999 22:48, Alexander Pashenko wrote to Dmitry Lomov about
[[0/5] XTRMODEM.ZIP]:
AS>> do something with the subject? If this scheme appeared
AS> Theoretically it is possible. But practically.... Shit didn't work out. And
AS> I looked at BMPVIEW from ProHackersDynasty. All I could see was
AS> the frame “Not enough memory” :)))
I can imagine it in parts in two b&w .pcx.
DL>> (xtr-modem). Inside is a two-color BMP 1100*780, it looks like
DL>> you can see something on the Spectrum.
AS> Theoretically it is possible. But practically.... Shit didn't work out. And
AS> I looked at BMPVIEW from ProHackersDynasty. All I could see was
AS> the frame "Not enough memory" :)))
AS>> appeared about 0.5 years ago, I would be immensely
AS>> happy and would connect it. And now doubts
AS>> are tormenting...
DL> that is why it appeared only now ;)
DL> doubts have tormented everyone for a long time...
But I still hope it will be useful to someone... :)
zy: Dima! STORM rulezzzzzzzzzzz! Give us STORM 2.0! With macros, conditional
compilation, improved capabilities of INCBs and INCLs, as well as a cool
interface, 512/1024kb, 64 characters per line and lines up to 255 characters! :)))
It was nice to chat, Dmitry! All the best! [Z80] [Zilog inside] [Sinclair Generation] [Energy Minds]
Now you can turn off the computer's power.
AS>> I would be immensely glad and would connect it. And now
AS>> doubts are tormented... After all, chaos is worth...
AK> Okay, remember ZXNet and the real people who are not sitting on chaos! Here
AK> this will suit them.
By the way, in which cities are there ZXNet networks? And what kind of momeds do people hang on there?
We, in particular and I, were going to create ZXNET in Odessa, but human
modems and their circuits didn’t exist at that time, and when I took haes and got into Fido on
spec (by the way, the very first in our city! Which I’m immensely proud of:), then I was somehow
allowed with this idea, because people didn't care about this...
But
now everyone is drooling, because they, you see, also want to join Fido, but they
didn't need ZXNet...
It was nice to talk, Anton! All the best!
AS> By the way, which cities have ZXNet networks? And on which
Well, I won’t say for sure ;), but in Ukraine they are connected to ZxNet:
- Lvov (Vladimir Klimus)
- Kharkov (Alexey Bugai)
- Dnepropetrovsk (Artem Kozakov)
- Zaporozhye (???)
- Donetsk (IMHO Tim Kelly)
but actually, if you want, I can throw off the nodelist :)
AS> momedah there are people hanging there?
whatever, but we are in the Dnieper on haez ;)
about ZxNet, if there is or isn’t, throw a link to Lvov (it’s closer ;) or to us
(contact 2:464/4077.69 Artem Kozakov)...
AK> Well, I won’t say for sure ;), but in Ukraine they are connected to ZxNet:
[...skipus longus...]
Well, if zxnet fired not only through I-Net:(
then Belarus would join this list, well, Grodno in particular for sure!
And then you live and probably don’t know that Grodno C-NET (ZXNET) lives and
is thriving, although there are only local echo conferences there:(
AK> Anton Kriwoshea aka $k1v/M7H (orp.'99.
C ya in nE>
15 Oct 99 19:19, Anton Kriwoshea -> Alex Shashkevich:
AS>> By the way, in which cities are there ZXNet networks? And on which
AK> Well, I can’t say for sure ;), but in Ukraine they are connected to ZxNet:
AK> - Lvov (Vladimir Klimys)
AK> - Kharkov (Alexey Bygai)
AK> - Dnepropetrovsk (Artem Kozakov)
AK> - Zaporozhye (???)
^^^^^^^^^ They are very conditionally in ZXNet
AK> - Donetsk (IMHO Tim Kelly)
Moscow, St. Petersburg, Vladivostok, Minsk, Yekaterinburg, Yoshkar-Ola, Samara, it seems
someone else...
AK> but actually, if you want you can drop the nodelist :)
But there’s no need for that.
17 Nov 99 15:44, Oleg Golenkoff -> Anton Kriwoshea:
OG> Well, if only zxnet operated not only through I-Net :(
And who’s stopping you: dial the hub in Minsk with Momed... And forward.
Was it like this before?
It was If you wanted, you would find a way to connect. I’ll just say one thing:
packets will not be sent through other networks.
There is an option: find a feed hub with Internet in your city, through it
(assigning it AKA to ZXNet) you can extend echoes and netmyl.
With Sincerely, Alexey
AK>> cut:
OG> Well, if zxnet fired not only through I-Net :(
Direct or uucp - please.
OG> then Belarus would join this list, well, Grodno in
Belarus is connected from the very beginning, and 17/1
hasn’t gone to Russia yet:)
With you was
Ars^FTL
For example, through what? Well, you can by phone...
OG> then Belarus would join this list, well, Grodno in particular
OG> for sure! Otherwise, you live and probably don’t know that Grodno C-NET (ZXNET)
OG> lives and prospers, although echo conferences there are only local :(
:-\ And there’s no way without the Internet???
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
OG> then Belarus would join this list, well, Grodno in
OG> in particular for sure!
Hello :), and Arseniy Astapenko? And the rest from Minsk? How about throwing a link to Ars?
:))
OG> Otherwise you live and probably don’t know that Grodno C-NET
OG> (ZXNET) lives and
OG> is thriving, although echo conferences there are only local ones :(
More coolly ;), yes we know that you exist ;), but you don’t go anywhere
:(...
Good luck, Oleg Golenkoff !
EP> But there is no need for this.
I suggested throwing off the soap, plus so that he could see who is in
ZxNet...
Good luck to you, Eudgine Palenock!
Oh, oh, how gentle we are :)))
_/With best wishes, Squizer!/_
>>> [xpro...@softhome.net] [ZX] [icq:17425411] [Ukraine RC5 Team]
... "I drink milk i I’ll give you some bread, and by my side I’ll have my hands on the sweets.”
AI> And who's stopping you: dial the hub in Minsk with momed... And forward.
AI> Was it like this before?
It used to be S-DOS?
IMHO if you call Hayes, you won’t go broke :)
This was drawn by Valeriy Kovalev aka 500:17/1.8@ZXNet
Bye!
... message posted via ZXNet Gate.
Yeah! :) How neat everything is with you... Just think about what you offer :(
And then they also say... Spectrum is a car for the rich :) Intercity however :(
AI> If we had the desire, we would find an opportunity to connect. I’ll just say one thing:
AI> packets will not be sent through other networks.
Thank you! :F~~~~ This is us already we know...
AI> There is an option: find a fidosh hub with the Internet in your city, through it
AI> (assigning it AKA in ZXNet) you can extend echoes and nonsense.
We don’t have a normal Internet in our city!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AI> Sincerely, Alexey
See ya later, SysOp Lara Croft BBS [I LC!]
ZX-Station (500:152/2) PC-Station (2:451/19)
KF> For example, through what? Well, you can by phone...
Who? It’s not like you have to pull a phone from Moscow :(
OG>> then Belarus would join this list, well, Grodno in particular
OG>> for sure! Otherwise you live and probably don’t know that Grodno C-NET (ZXNET)
OG>> lives and prospers, although echo conferences there are only local :(
KF> :-\ And there’s no way without the Internet ???
So far no way... :( I suggested coming up with something through FIDO, but no one wants to scratch.... Well, what am I? I’m just the admin of the local network :( and not
the Lord GOD... I can’t stretch fiber optic from Moscow... ;(
KF> Kirill Frolov.
AA> Belarus has been connected from the very beginning, and 17/1
AA> has not yet gone to Russia:)
Happy you... happy that my hands are busy... (c) Christ
AA> Was with you
AA> Ars^FTL
OG>> in particular for sure!
AK> Hello :), and Arseniy Astapenko? And the rest from Minsk? Should I send a link to
AK> Ars? :))
Damn global! :) Sorry, my dad is not a millionaire :( And phone bills for 5
muliks still come to me :(
OG>> Otherwise you live and probably don’t know that Grodno C-NET
OG>> (ZXNET) lives and prospers, although echo conferences there are only local :(
AK> Even worse ;), yes we know that you exist ;), but you’re nowhere don't
AK> come out :(...
Well, thanks for this at least :)
AK> Anton Kriwoshea aka $k1v/M7H (orp.'99.
AK> I suggested throwing it off with soap, plus so that he could see who is in
AK> ZxNet...
Both, I want to throw it off as soon as possible, maybe I’ll share my impressions, I’m waiting for her
I can’t wait. Don’t look at the tireline, all this (tearline) is nonsense. I have a live
Speccy, but no phone at home (yet) and you.....
Sincerely, Murad Davronbekov.
AI>> Internet, through it (by assigning it AKA in ZXNet) you can
AI>> stretch echoes and nets.
OG> We don’t have a normal
OG> Internet in our city!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fido somehow works... If there was a desire, we would use it similar
channels...
Free parasitism is being nipped in the bud on any network.
Sincerely, Alexey
C ya in nE>
OG> Not yet... :(
I wrote ^^^ above. It’s possible.
OG> I suggested coming up with something through FIDO, but no one wants to scratch
OG>....
EEE... How does Fidonet relate to zxnet? You really
didn’t think well of what you wrote. Fidonet is not a commercial amateur network,
no one cares (yes) and how???) will not be forwarded.
OG> Well, what am I? I’m just the admin of the local network :( and not the Lord GOD...
And I am the Absolute Monarch :-)
OG> I can’t extend fiber optics from Moscow... ;(
Why? You have both a telephone and an Internet there...
Well, or AI suggested - fidoshnikov there are nodes that work on the Internet through Binkd
Find one and persuade him to sign up for zxnet.
Kirill Frolov [ZX]
AK>> link to Ars? :))
OG> Damn global! :) Sorry, my dad is not a millionaire :(
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What about me, without my dad? ;-)
OG> And I still get my phone bills for 5 rubles :(
Time-based ? :-/ W Belarusii ?
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
OG> Yeah! :) How neat everything is with you... Just think about what
OG> you offer :( And then they also say... Spectrum is a car for the rich :)
OG> Intercity however :(
So? You have a lot of Spectrum players there, divide it among everyone, there won’t be many
.
AI>> one thing: packets can be sent through other networks there won't be.
OG> Thank you! :F~~~~ We already know that...
And _how_ do you imagine sending echo and netmail through _another_ FTN network
???
AI>> There is an option: find a fidosh hub in your city with internet, through
AI>> (by assigning it AKA in ZXNet) you can extend the echoes and not wash.
OG> We don’t have a normal Internet in our city!
How is that possible? Not at all :-( )
Kirill Frolov [ZX]
C ya in nE>
27 Nov 99 01:08, Kirill Frolov -> Oleg Golenkoff:
OG>> Damn global! :) Excuse me, my dad is not a millionaire :(
KF> And on my own, without my dad? ;-)
So, I’m on the hunt for ZXNet, have they done at least something to independently
enter the network?
OG>> And my phone bills for 5 dollars are still coming to me
OG>> :(
I feel worse... I pay monthly. And they haven’t given me beer in Moscow since August... ;)
Sincerely, Alexey
AK>> Hello :), and Arseniy Astapenko? And the rest from Minsk? A
AK>> send a link to
AK>> Ars? :))
OG> Damn global! :) Sorry, my dad is not a millionaire :( And
OG> phone bills for 5 muliks come to me anyway :(
Damn, is there any way to send a link through a free internet?
I don’t know about you, but here in Dnepr, there is such an option at provider companies for $2
a month and you have an internet from 1.00 to 8.00 every day. Or Do you have a timer?
OG> Well, does that mean all fidoshniks are freeloaders? :(
See above.
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
OG> Well, of course... without long-distance, I get bills of 5 muliks
OG> :( well, this is
OG> nonsense...
Spread it on points. Do you need this alone or all real people?
OG> Hy does that mean all fidoshniks are freeloaders? :(
Points, yes, but each node does everything possible to keep the network working.
For everything, someone pays with their personal money or uses their capabilities at
work for the functioning of the network.
It’s the same with us.
OG> ASCENDANCY HQ: ascen...@mail.ru
OG> http://www.ascendancy.homepad.com
Here you have soap address, why not use it?
Sincerely, Alexey
C ya in nE>
C ya in nE>
KF> Kirill Frolov.
C ya in nE>
AI> You have a soap address, why not use it?
You can forget about it :( I just have a forward with mail.ru at 2:451/19
And I’ve been in I-net for half a year now not true... :(
AI> Sincerely, Alexey
C ya in nE>
KF>> _another_ FTN network ???
OG> =8{ ] - approximately like this!
Either I’m a fool, or I don’t see something completely obvious.
why not make one fidosh address a zkhnet node, which in Yuyuk accepts
mail for ZHnetchikov. Attached in the zip is a generated file in which
which files are written. accordingly, when receiving mail from ZHnetchikov (sysops) (they
directly call the node to receive and send mail for their
subscribers), the mail is added to the archive, and then sent to the appropriate
addresses.
all you need:
a node for each ZHnet node
write software that will distribute mail to the right people and send
nodelist with all the nodes described above and BBCs
desire
good luck. http://chaosite.com
random.concern chaos. mailto:ran...@chaosite.com
... A strict but fair suit.
KF>> network, no one will send you anything (and how ???)
KF>> will.
OG> Yes, at least in a non-soap way :( Although this is a perversion...
A terrible perversion. It’s easier to register these fidoshniks in zxnet.
But they _pay for the phone_ and you want a freebie?
OG> 2ALL: People! Who drives ZXNET, plz share the information, how do you download
OG> and most importantly from where, ZXNET echo conferences?
There is a spectrum and downloads, it doesn’t allow the puss to call anywhere...
I wrote - you have a lot of zxnet users there, you have to take money from them for
zxnet.
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
OG> Don’t you know?
How much does a minute cost? Just not in hares, but in dollars or rubles?
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
30 Nov 99 22:34, Oleg Golenkoff wrote to Kirill Frolov:
OG> You're talking, it's even funny to me... we had this idea :) How to discuss this
OG> proposal, everyone (C-Net people) is FOR it with both hands! And as you say
OG> it’s time to pay for the phone, everyone’s going straight to hell :( Everyone has a million reasons
OG> and excuses...
Yes, this is everywhere. Money first and disconnect everyone from the network.
KF> And _how_ do you imagine sending echo and netmail through _another_
KF> FTN network ???
For example, scripting zx-net echoes in Fido, and soap - like regular soap. It's
simple ;)
Yuri
C ya in nE>
KF> How much does a minute cost? Just not in hares, but in dollars or rubles?
Honestly... I have no idea :( I’m not interested in this :| at least
as long as I can pay :) But it seems they say that now it’s about 600 rubles
Belarussian, but they will raise it to 800 rubles per minute... it’s hard
to translate into dolts, but it turned out to be less than 1 cent per minute, now more than 1 cent per
minute :-\
But this doesn’t matter... since we are booming ZXNet long-distance with HAYES so
that in theory it will take no more than 2-3 minutes a day, in principle it’s tolerable...
Why pay when you have internet at work.
WBR, //Sergey Orlov//. [ZX] [For a relationship without marriage]
[FIDO: 2:451/13.49] [ZXNet: 500:152/4] [email: gri...@mail.ru]
OG>
OG> Honestly... I have no idea :( I'm not interested in this :|
OG> at least as long as I can pay :) But they seem to say that
OG> is now about 600 rubles in Belarusian, but they will raise it to 800 rubles per minute... by
850r. already.
OG> it’s hard to translate, but it turned out to be less than 1 cent per minute,
OG> now more than 1 cent per minute :-\
I would say 0.1 cent, now it’s more.
YV> For example, scripting zx-net echoes in Fido,
It is impossible - the zone number does not match the Fido standard.
YV> and soap is like regular soap. It's simple ;)
You can't just...
Good luck! Evgeny. (Aka 2:5057/18.73) ■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.
KF>> _dpuguyu_ FTN network ???
YV> For example, to create zx-net echoes in fido, and soap - as usual
YV> soap. Everything is simple ;)
And in Fido there will be 7 zones after that?
Kirill Frolov. [ZX]
06 Dec 99 10:56, Oleg Golenkoff wrote to Kirill Frolov:
OG> NEVER! :) Information should be free (read free :)! (ts)
OG> HACKERS
The original meant information on the Internet for which they really
demanded money. In FTN you pay for the transfer of information (for the same intercity).
And this is exactly what we will talk about in ZXNET.SALO.
Respectfully, Vladimir.
*AKA*
... "Beer is like water - I am tormented" (c) Scriabin
OG>>>> Thank you! :F~~~~ We already know this...
KF>>> And _how_ do you imagine sending echo and netmail through
KF>>> _another_ FTN network ???
YV>> For example, scripting zx-net echoes in Fido, and soap - like regular
YV>> soap. It's simple ;)
EM> It’s impossible - the zone number does not match the fidosh standard.
So in echoes this doesn’t matter, does it?
Yuri
EM>> standard.
YV> So in the echoes it doesn’t matter, does it?
Well, I sent a message to our generals with a ZxNet address, so I had to
make excuses to nec ;)
Good luck to you, Yuri Voynalovich!
Good luck! Evgeny. (Aka 2:5057/18.73) ■ The night is shorter than the day... The day will kill me... The world of illusions burns down in it. (C) Aria.
OG> We’d better talk about this with you at ZXNET.SALO :)
Wow, you’re thinking correctly ;))
_/With best wishes, Squizer!/_
>>> [xpro...@softhome.net] [ZX] [icq:17425411] [Ukraine RC5 Team]
... "I drink milk and give bread, and by my side there is a whale of a hand"
07 Dec 99 Vladimir Klymus wrote to Oleg Golenkoff about "ZxNet's Cities ;)":
OG>> NEVER! :) Information should be free (read free :)!
OG>> (c) HACKERS
VK> The original meant information on the Internet, for which
VK> they really demanded money. In FTN you pay for the transfer of
VK> information (for the same long distance). And that’s exactly what we’ll talk about
VK> in ZXNET.SALO.
Have you already set up an ip there? Because I have now registered everything for /640,
this time for sure...
good luck. http://chaosite.com
random.concern chaos. mailto:ran...@chaosite.com
More precisely, Zyksnet aka has disappeared on this server ;(
I was with you http://ftl.da.ru ICQ:1939489
Ars^FTL mailto:f...@mail.ru 500:17/1@ZXNet
20 Dec 99 02:25, Alexei Bugai -> Vladimir Klymus:
AB> Have you already set up an IP there? Because I now registered everything on /640
AB>, this time for sure...
AKA ZXNet disappeared on 640.
...not a day without a glitch :(
Sincerely, Alexey
20 Dec 99 13:28, Vsevolod Potapov -> Alexei Bugai:
VP> squeezer, can you connect to zxnet again? :)
He is now in limbo, and I feel that for a long time...
Sincerely, Alexey
good luck. http://chaosite.com
random.concern chaos. mailto:ran...@chaosite.com
VK>>> let's talk in ZXNET.SALO.
AB>> Have you already set up an ip there? Because I have now registered everything on /640
AB>>, this time for sure...
VP> squeezer,
?
VP> can you connect to zxnet again? :)
You can. Remind me in a week with soap.
soap"
20 Dec 99 Alexey Ivanov wrote to Vsevolod Potapov about "ZxNet's Cities ;)":
VP>> squeezer, can you connect to zxnet again? :)
AI> He is now in limbo, and I feel that for a long time...
How do you feel? The same place?
So there are some glitches here with Squiser, or something else, but zxnet still doesn’t go to Lvov.
Lvov turns out to be cut off.
And here you are talking about zxnet cities.
Lvov needs to be connected.
With respect, Andrey.
December 23, 99, somewhere at 19:02
Andrij M. Stegnitskiy in his letter to All wrote:
AS> Greetings to everyone.
AS> So there is something here, that Squiser has glitches, then something else, but zxnet,
AS> still doesn’t go to Lviv. Lvov turns out to be circumcised. And here you are talking about cities
AS> zxnet. We need to connect Lvov. With respect, Andrey.
In general, how many cities are included in ZXnet now?
Come again...
Alexander
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