[0/3] NAMv0.24.$B

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From Sergey Zotov To All 27 September 2001

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│ To : Sergey Zotov (2:5030/1510)
│ Subj: [0/3] NAMv0.24.$B
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[Killed.]

The destination address of your msg is not listed in the
current nodelists on my system: NODELIST.019 NET5057.103 PNT5020.NDL
PNT5057.NDL PNT5030.141

Therefore I must return this message to you.


Andrey Semiuglov,
SysOp of MiniStation, 2:5057/1


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From: Sergey Zotov at 2:5057/21.93 (25 Sep 01 20:46:51)
To : Pawel Semenow at 2:5030/1510
Subj: [0/3] NAMv0.24.$B
Intl: 2:5030/1510 2:5057/21

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On Fri 21 Sep 2001 Pawel Semenow wrote to me:

SZ>> Пpосто замените subj'ем вашy пpедыдyщyю веpсию и все. :)
SZ>> Hастpойки от
SZ>> v0.23 пpоглотит запpосто - я там ничего не фиксел.
SZ>> Добавлено:
PS> -+-кyсь---

SZ>> это все. :)
PS> А я багy нашёл... =) Вообщем она заключается в том, что,
PS> когда я дозваниваюсь
PS> до босса и пpи длинных гyдках мой модем пишет RINGING, Nam
PS> считает это за бизю
попробуй прописать ATS0=0

PS> и кладёт тpyбкy. Так жеI noticed: if after
PS> the first long beep
PS> the boss's modem picks up the phone (immediately - a beep and sharply
PS> the phone goes up), then nam hangs up... Maybe my hands are crooked
PS>, but this is quite strange.
Indeed. :) Try using the factory config... ATZ3 or something
like this.

PS> My modem is USR Sportster56000/isa. ATS - digital.
I have a USR Sportster 14000/isa ATS - ordinary. :)

PS> By the way - what if you turn this dialer for
PS> into some kind of
PS> simple mailer? Well, so that he could answer incoming calls
PS>, etc.?
PS> After all, it would be such a pylez that everyone would install for themselves
PS>...
Only I’m not the author and I don’t have the source code. And I don’t understand anything about EMSI sessions at all. :) I can disassemble subj into the correct sources, but I'm not interested in that. I hope Dismaster will release the next version. Write to him.

PS> If my idea is okay, then I will send you the expected
PS> appearance of the mailer (picture)...
:) Dikie try it under is-dos. No cooler than him you will jump.

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From Pawel Semenow To All 28 September 2001

SZ> But I’m not the author and I don’t have the source code. And I don’t understand anything about EMSI
SZ> sessions at all. :) I can disassemble subj into the correct
SZ> sources, but I'm not interested in that. I hope that Dismaster
SZ> will release the next version. Write to him.
And give me his address... :-)

From Denis Rybakov To All 5 October 2001

SZ> try to write ATS0=0

don’t listen to bad advice.

PS>> Maybe my hands are crooked, but this is quite strange.

I answer that my hands are not crooked. the "ringing" feature is introduced, as a rule, on advanced modems, to count the number of beeps when dialing, it is very convenient for optimizing
the operation of a node on autopilot, but sometimes interferes with the average user, especially with Spectrum software, which usually has a poor set of settings.

The mailer controls the flow of messages and distinguishes
from the "ringing" "ring" and believes that an incoming
call has been detected. Natural reaction: further waiting
for an answer is pointless and frees up the line.

SZ> Indeed. :) Try to use the factory config... ATZ3 or
SZ> something like this.

It won’t help, because ringin is enabled (as a rule) in it by
default.

From Sergey Zotov To All 19 October 2001

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From Kirill Frolov To All 19 October 2001

PS>>>> If my idea is okay, then I’ll send you the expected
PS>>>> appearance of the mailer (picture)...
SZ>>> :) Dikie try it under is-dos. You can't jump better than him.
PS>> Hmm? I should have a look...

From Denis Rybakov To All 20 October 2001

KF> Have you seen sendmail? And the config from him?

hmm... a person who tries to deceive
others about something that they obviously have not dealt with,
that is, they cannot refute his words, deserves
not respect at all, but, on the contrary, reasonable
doubt in his real knowledge.


From Sergey Zotov To All 20 October 2001

DR> hmm... a person who tries to deceive
DR> others in something with which they obviously have not dealt,
DR> that is, they cannot refute his words, is worthy
Why. I was dealing with sendmail. I get paid for this kind of setup. :) Sendmail can be set up with your eyes closed in 15-20 minutes and can
work for years. Everything there is elementary.

DR> not respect at all, but rather justified
DR> doubt about his real knowledge.

From Sergey Zotov To All 20 October 2001

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From Kirill Frolov To All 21 October 2001

SZ> I didn’t just see it. I use it every day. :) And I configured
SZ> about two dozen different configs. All the machines I have configured have been working for a long time and
SZ> without problems. But I couldn’t get Dikiy to work. Do you know why? Yes
SZ> because there are *nix man's! And for the wild one there is not a single travel
SZ> description.

Let me give you the mana from the wild one, and you tell me how to explain to a sendmail
that a letter from the address x...@yyy.zzz should be sent as from a...@bbb.ccc,
well, for dialup you understand.

From Kirill Frolov To All 21 October 2001

DR> others in what they obviously had no business with,

I’m not a clean guy and I don’t think in the same terms, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT
Dickie IS A VERY SIMPLE THING compared to the same sendmail.
Everyone understands... since he understands it...

DR> that is, they cannot refute his words, worthy

A who is stopping you from watching and learning something new for yourself?


From Nikolaj Amosov To All 21 October 2001

SZ>> travel
SZ>> description.

KF> Let me give you a man from the wild one, and you tell me how
KF> sendmail
KF> explain that a letter from the address x...@yyy.zzz should be sent
KF> as from a...@bbb.ccc,
KF> well, for dialup you understand.

And you will give it to me man?

Nikolaj.
[REAL ZX]