[0/14] TR-dos 6.05E full version.

KF> Why is this hobta even needed? ZXZIP can be transmitted even without a request!
look in the rules, if I'm not mistaken, it's the zxzip archives that are supposed to be
required... or is it in the 3rd Spectrum?

KF>>> for real people!
ND>> yeah, and then the stink of a crowd of people will start about a file they didn't want...
KF> From whom, from emulators? Because the realist just needs to understand
no matter from whom.

KF> and set it on the ZXUNZIP file right away. And the PC emulator emulators
KF> have dried up their last brains, they don’t have enough sense to want or transfer it to a tradder.
KF> Well, let them stink in zx.spectrum.
you’re a strange person... :)

KF>>> pps: And I would put a small file in the archive in which I wrote that it is
KF>>> this.
ND>> there was (?)/there is read_me.
KF> There are generally a bunch of files... And most importantly, I didn’t understand what to do there
well, there’s a bunch, so what?

KF> I need it! I launched the installer, but it hangs! :-(
I wonder how you could even launch it? After all, it is in source form...

KF>> transmit!
ND> look in the rules, if I’m not mistaken, it’s the zxzip archives that you should
ND> you want to... or is it in the spectrum?

It’s there, among the bad emulators.

5. Files placed in the echo conference must be only
in UUE encoding and meet the standards of one of the following
categories:

a) standard Spectrum file in Hobeta format (*.$*);
b) text file in 866 GOST (alternative) encoding (*.txt);
c) ROM firmware files in binary code (*.bin);
d) disk images of the Shalaev emulator (*.trd);
e) raster graphic files (*.pcx, *.bmp, *.jpg).

Before posting, the above files must be packed with Spectrum ZIP (*.$z) or a similar
archiver on PC (*.ZIP), the archive must contain a description of the contents in a text file (it is desirable that this file have the standard name file_id.diz,
descript.ion or read_me).

As for the description of the files, I fully support the moderator --
I currently have _11_ _megabytes_ of unassembled Spectrum
Varez on my bbs...

Obviously, there is no mention of hobeta here nothing. That probably means it’s possible.
The fact that zxzip does not require mandatory permission seems clear
it should be. The fact that it is easier to work with an unsecured zxzip archive
Spectrum also seems to be beyond doubt. And the fact that brainless
emulator developers can’t unpack the file doesn’t seem to matter here.
In the same rules it is clearly written for whom the echo was created.

I’m curious, what did you put there?

Good luck.
Roman.
[ZX]

04 Sep 00 07:37, Nicolas Davidov wrote to Kirill Frolov:

ND> I don’t care what the files come in, be it in TRD, even in SCL, even in
ND> Hobet, what’s the difference?

Or maybe directly in SNA, Z80, FDI and pack everything with RAR?

KF>> There should be a file in which should be in 2 lines
KF>> it is written that
ND> there is a great description there :)

It takes a long time to read it, to delve into the meaning of what is written. I'm more than
missing by more than two lines - there are a lot of such files.

ND> What's packed there?

The sources are in the storm. They look like they are packed in HEX.

KF>> unknown assembler.
ND> yeah, since when did storm become an unknown assembler?

Since its format was not converted into text.
I don’t perceive it in binary form at all.

ND> your problems. whoever needed it figured it out, set it up and uses it.

I don’t need it.

ND>> I don’t care what the files come in, even in TRD, even in SCL, even in
ND>> Who cares, what’s the difference?
KF> Or maybe immediately in SNA, Z80, FDI and pack everything with RAR?
don’t exaggerate.

KF>>> There should be a file in which it should be in 2 lines it is written that

ND> why perceive it in binary form?

But I don’t perceive anything in anything else.

06 Sep 00 15:02, Sergey Kulkov wrote to Kirill Frolov:

KF>> The fact that zxzip does not require mandatory involvement seems to be
KF>> should be clear.

SK> How to say this... When transferred to a real Spec, the
SK> type may be lost (Z) and start address ($5049='IP').

What are you transferring and why? Hobeta? Well, these are purely emulation
problems... For me, everything is transferred via MMD link and nothing is lost.

SK> In this case, the UNZIP file will not be seen.

You can type it in manually.

SK> If you unpack on a PC, problems are also possible.
SK> Error: can't open archive 95b539cd.zip.$Z

Are you right? In my opinion, with writing problems in zx.spectrum you
need.

SK> === Cut here ===
SK> And about the uninterested BASIC, you yourself can probably guess :)

But don’t bother sending BASICS without an archive and file_id.diz - I would immediately give a plus for that
installed!

KF> Are you right? In my opinion, with writing problems in zx.spectrum
KF> you need it.

Didn’t you make a mistake when you started talking about the hobeta?

KF> Wouldn’t you like to send basic files without an archive and file_id.diz - I would for
KF> give this right away plus!

Please put it :))) Only in addition to those indicated you still need the hobet chips.

Well, that seems to be all for now. Happy!

... I went to bed early in the morning, in the evenings I kept calling someone... (C) "Spleen"

18 Sep 00 09:45, Sergey Kulkov wrote to Kirill Frolov:

KF>> pure emulation problems... For me everything is transferred via zlink
KF>> MMD and nothing is lost.
SK> You are a happy person. And that’s why they came up with the idea, so that
SK> Spekov files could be transferred to other platforms without problems.

Yes, but why bother with ARCHIVES? Just because the PC has a
crooked unzipper? These are the problems of the PC.

KF>> You can write it down with your hands.
SK> Well, why such sex, if it’s much easier to want and dislike,
SK> you can do it automatically.

It’s easier for emulator developers. But even for me it’s difficult to glue these cut files
into one and look for where the beginning is and where the end is. And this despite the fact that
in Windows there is a COPY FILE+FILE command. And on the Spectrum it will be
real sex with a computer.

SK>> it’s simpler, you can do it automatically.
KF> It’s simpler for emulator developers.

What, they’re not people anymore? Or did they shoot everyone?

KF> But even for me it’s difficult to put these cut files together and look for them,
^^^^^^^^
Beautifully said! Here she is - the highest authority, a person who can do everything!!!
It’s _simple_ _it’s very easy for me_ to do this, and if you also know how to program
just a little - and in general automation.

KF> where is the beginning and where is the end. And this is despite the fact that in Windows there is a command
KF> COPY FILE+FILE.

Dosa also had one, just this morning ;-)

KF> And on the Spectrum it will be real sex with the computer.

Do you mean that it is difficult to want a file of 255 sectors? Or merge this
file brought from the PC? In both cases, you can use software that was written a long time ago
and is available to everyone, so no problems.

[gnawed by a rat]

KF> For what? So that later all sorts of smart people will ask: “what is
KF> $a $b ?”

If smart people don’t know this now, they will find out over time. And I’m not going to give up my hobets because of them, and I don’t advise anyone.

KF> + Origin: I am the Absolute Monarch and the stars obey me...

And logic? 8-)))))))

SK> Do you mean that it is difficult to create a file with 255 sectors?

It will be difficult to create a file with _256_ sectors. Such files simply do not exist in TR-DOS
.

SK> Or merge this file brought from the PC? In both cases, you can
SK> use software that was written a long time ago and is available to everyone, so there are no
SK> problems.

Well, you also need to know that twenty years ago one buggy
program was written, which was so different from two files...

KF> It will be difficult to sort out a file of _256_ sectors. Such files simply do not exist in TR-DOS
KF>.

And they never will. But what happens is that there are two files, one of which is the main one, and the second is a 17-byte appendage. They are located one after the other, and everything is ok.

[the rat gnawed it]

KF> Well, you also need to know that twenty years ago one
KF> buggy program was written, which just like that made sense from two files...

So, was it very buggy? I had two of these, and neither of them malfunctioned. Then I wrote my own, too, everything seems to be fine :)

[gnawed by a rat]

KF> Not at all because of them.

12 Oct 00 09:01, Sergey Kulkov wrote to Kirill Frolov:

SK> But with such questions you should turn to those who called these files so
SK>. Although, the automation doesn’t care what to do, and you
SK> will guess, I hope that ********.ZIP is a continuation of the archive.

So figs! There is not a continuation, but a piece from the first file, also _.Z
or something similar.

SK> Motivate.

In my opinion, he already motivated it. And this is one of the few cases when I agree with
him.

With respect, Dmitriy.

[the rat gnawed it]

SK>> you’ll guess, I hope that ********.ZIP is a continuation of the archive.
KF> So figs! There is not a continuation, but a piece from the first file, also
KF> _.Z or something similar.

Well, this is a question for the crooked posters. And you need to focus on them, and not on the method of transferring files. It was not invented by fools...

KF>>> It’s difficult to figure out a file of _256_ sectors. Such files simply don’t exist in TR-DOS
KF>>>.
SK>> And they never will. But what happens is that there are two files, one of which
SK>> is the main one, and the second is a 17-byte add-on. They are located one
SK>> after the other, and everything is ok.
KF> And if there are 2 appendage pieces, how can you determine which one belongs to what?

And the appendage and the main one must have the same names.

KF>> also _.Z or something similar.
SK> Well, this is a question for the crooked posters. And you need to attack them, and
SK> not the method of transferring files. It was not invented by fools...

The technique is normal - take the file and add it in its entirety. This is a hobeta
for zxzip emulator your complete idiots came up with. And other [pisishniks]
then scream that they can’t start without hobets $a and $b. And zxzip in general
in $z...

KF> There are no identical names.
It happens. For example, when you launch a zip spec, there may be
several files with the name ********.Z or Lara's mail database
consists purely of post.p files and, as a rule, there is more than one of them.

With the best, Dima Boyko.

DB> it happens. For example, when you launch a zip speck, there may be
DB> several files with the name ********.Z or Lara's mail database
DB> consists purely of post.p files and, as a rule, there is more than one of them.

In tr-dos these are not files. And the files will be $a0 $b1 $c3...

KF> In tr-dos these are not files. And the files will be $a0 $b1 $c3...
my friend, what is this then, glitches? ^^^^^^^^^^^^
and this has nothing to do with the Spectrum at all.
And by the way, I prefer these names.

With the best, Dima Boyko.

DB> my friend, what is this then, glitches? ^^^^^^^^^^^^

$a $b ? Files.

DB> and this has nothing to do with the Spectrum at all.

Well, of course! I have games there, for example.

[the rat gnawed it]

KF> The technique is normal - take the file and edit the entire file.

What, in your opinion, is there no need to edit the desired file? :)

KF> This is a hobeta for zxzip, an emulator of yours that complete idiots came up with.

Tell me, “ours” is whose exactly?

KF> And the others [writers] then scream that they can’t launch $a and $b without hobeta
KF>. And zxzip generally costs $z...

In general, it’s worth buying mainly zip and bass. And also those files for which catalog parameters are very important. You're talking about pisishniks here, but
try to send a couple of files of the above-mentioned type on Speck without a hobta.
And then run it...

DB>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^

KF> $a $b ? Files.
Your mine don’t understand. I'm completely confused about what we're talking about.
Why are hobet files not files? And why do you consider ********.Z
files not files?

With the best, Dima Boyko.

SK> Finally, it’s worth buying mainly zip and bass.

Explain why you should buy zip? So that the next @#%$!% @%$!%!
doesn’t have questions about $a and $b?

SK> And also those files for which catalog parameters are very important.

It doesn’t matter to Zip.

SK> You’re talking about pisishniks here, but try sending a couple
SK> of files of the above-mentioned type without hobets on Speck. And launch it later...

Zip does not start. And the basics were thrown over with melon - everything was fine.
Only the length needed to be corrected.

SK> For those in a T-34 tank hit by a direct hit from a ten-ton
SK> aerial bomb:

“For those behind the firewall”

SK> 1. There are identical names on Speck.

They don’t happen. These are not names or files.

SK> 2. On the PC there are also identical names, you just need to know how to do it :))

If something somewhere is buggy...

14 Nov 00 22:21, Dima Boyko wrote to Kirill Frolov:

KF>> $a $b ? Files.
DB> Yours is mine, don’t understand. I'm completely confused about what we're talking about.
DB> Why are hobet files not files?

If they are files, then they are files. Especially if they are good.

DB> And why do you consider ********.Z files not files?

I don’t consider files not files. I don’t consider the contents of the disk to be files.

DB> we say.
DB> Why are hobet files not files? And why do you consider
DB> ********.Z
DB> files not files?
Leave him alone. He's driving, he's already fed up.

Sincerely, Oleg. [ZX]

KF>>> $a $b ? Files.
DB>> Yours is mine, don’t understand. I'm completely confused what we
DB>> are talking about.
DB>> Why are hobet files not files?

[chewed by a rat]

KF> Explain why you need a zip? So that the next @#%$!% @%$!%!
KF> doesn’t have questions about $a and $b?

Exactly for this, as well as for everything else. By the way, it was noticed
that the station on EMC does not process mail from points if the file type is not "P", but
"p". Namely, these are the types that are obtained if you transfer pekateshniks from PC to Speck. And write a simple trick with editing a symbol, run it
automatically, and the problem immediately disappears.