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Hello, cwk^mimic
I really liked the demo about the duck, just like on IBM! :v2_clapp;
CPU; ducks you! CyberPunks Unity
Hello, All
again v1.1 on scenergy.natm.ru!
Hello, CHRV
Here's a surprise Ball-Quest (for ATM Turbo and Pentagon 1024SL v2.1) took second
place, and the game looked better than the poor flash games.
Hello, scl^mc
scl> vega, where is another job for ts?!! wasn't it you who wrote:
scl>
scl>
scl> I'm evil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scl>
With TS it’s a completely different story - unfortunately due to the lack of a player and standard
TS format (gentlemen, programmers, is it really so difficult to make a universal player
which can play back what was received on Vortexe, ProTrackere?) all
was digitized on an emulator and there were overlays, for example Nik-O had one channel
shifted relative to the other...
Hello, CHRV
CHR> The TS is a completely different story - unfortunately due to the lack of a player
CHR> TS format standard (gentlemen, programmers, is it really so difficult to do
CHR> is a universal player that can play what is received on Vortexe,
CHR> ProTrackere?) everything was digitized on the emulator and there were overlays
CHR> for example, Nik-O had one channel shifted relative to the other...
Well, my module completely disappeared, as if it didn’t exist at all. and nikahhih
messages from the zx-part org, in addition to what I cited.:mad:
Hello, alexeenko
vega, where is another job for ts?!! wasn't it you who wrote:
veg> Hello, scalesmann!
veg>
veg> Work accepted. Of the two previously submitted works under AY Music, we
veg> settled on "Night of dancing cats" - i.e. chose her.
veg>
veg>
veg>
veg> Bye, Vlad.
I'm angry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello, scl^mc
scl> well, my module has completely disappeared
I wish the picture disappeared!
Aren't you ashamed to discredit Spectrum and take away points from worthy works???
Although this is a question more for the authorities who missed this despite the obvious
envelope and lack of phases.
Hello, scl^mc
scl> well, my module completely disappeared, as if it didn’t exist at all. and
scl> no messages from the zx-part org, except for what I cited.
And you indicated what to do with your module in case
CHR> The TS is a completely different story - unfortunately due to the lack of a player
CHR> TS format standard (gentlemen, programmers, is it really so difficult to do
CHR> is a universal player that can play what is received on Vortexe,
CHR> ProTrackere?)
=)
Don't be ridiculous, there is a player from Alco for PT3, for Vortex the player can be written in 5 minutes (16
lines). It’s just that the organizers once again demonstrated their “professionalism.” :P
Hello, scl^mc
Cool work, although I'm not a fan of demo building, I enjoyed it
viewing - all the works are very, very original (although these rotating cubes
already last year))
Hello new art
new> And you indicated what to do with your module in case
I immediately told them what was written in vortex. There were no problems with this on dihalt.
here he didn’t even make it into the work pack. and all sorts of clever things about writing
player, sorry, leave it to those who understand programming. and this too
stone towards the org. the competition has been announced, but there are no standards or any
normal tools.
Here you go, at least I’ll post it like this... it wasn’t in vain that I wrote at night... (I was a bit on SS
short version)
File: heroes.rar http://zx.pk.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=3660
Hello new art
new> I wish the picture disappeared!
new> Don't be ashamed of you to discredit Spectrum and take away points from the worthy
new> works???
new> Although this is a question more for the authorities who missed this despite
new> explicit envelope and lack of phases
first of all, it was a joke. and secondly - verification. whether there is a preselect or not.
That's all. I'm not an artist, eh
Hello, scl^mc
scl> first of all, it was a joke. and secondly - verification. is there a preselect
scl> or not. That's all. I'm not an artist, dammit
I'm not an artist either. And I tried not to carry out preselection as such, so that
ZX had as many works as possible. Next year for AY Compo I will achieve
increasing the total number to 15 -16 compositions, and allowing two
works from the author. I just count on the integrity of the spektrumists, that
they will not send conversion and plagiarism. And you give out such provocations and
jokes. Was the work of karbofos also such a joke? As a result, I worry, but
Everyone makes me angry. If this continues, then all this can be called one
with the phrase: “let’s destroy the stage with our own hands.”
Hello Vega
In principle, it’s off-topic, since we’ll be talking about works for the PC, but from people, okay
famous on the ZX demoscene - Hardwave Crew from Obolensk (Mitchell and friends).
=== : ===
graphics - "Sunny time" - there is a guy lying on the beach and a yacht is visible in the sea.
Environmental themes. There is an inscription that "Save this world, don't let it
be black and white." and next to it is a black and white image of the same picture.
music in the mp3 section - "Jiggaz". Irish tunes sound there
(there is a transition from a slow rhythm to a fast one).
Didenko plays the accordion there, you can immediately understand that Pleten.
=== . ===
The works were sent, were accepted and were not shown.
Hello, Wlodek
Wlodek, did you register on the website? They are not on the list of works.
Hello, scl^mc
As it turned out, the orgs simply planted the descriptor file. or rather, now to say,
what, sorry dude, we didn’t know whose work it was, there was no file_id.diz type! WAS!
besides, I sent the archive with the work twice (once in rar, then
It turned out that you definitely need it in zip). :mad; :mad:; :mad; :mad:; :mad:
Hello Vega
Veg> And I tried not to carry out preselection as such...The work of karbofos
Veg> was that a joke too?
work was no joke! This is the original module. just similarity was achieved
in that it is written in approximately the same key and the same
too much! different topics! How come you didn’t notice this!?!?
Still, you went too far with the preselect...
eh...
Hello, scl^mc
Where can I get Ball-Quest? And then in the collection of works, something didn’t fit.
Hello bugsy
In general, I also think that there is no need to burden the organizers with “jokes.” they have
a lot of work, everyone on CC6 could see that. in my opinion, the components have passed
ok, but the sound was clearly not played in abc stereo, or the channels were mixed
strange. In 'The miracle of you' we had almost no middle channel and nik-o
said that channel 'B' is not audible in his module.
In general, many thanks to all the organizers!
Hello demon_zx
dem> Where can I get Ball-Quest? And then in the collection of works, something didn’t fit.
A little patience, works are slowly being uploaded to FTP CC6. See the section on
which the game came with - Combined Game Compo. When the section appears, it should appear
and the game, I kind of think so :).
Hello diver
div> Wlodek, did you register on the website? They are not in the list of works.
Mitchell said he even received confirmation of his job registration personally from
Frog. However, maybe cardin himself will appear here and contribute his “three cents”
:) to this topic. He sent me another quote about the loss of registered works
(personal letter; not Spectrum).
Hello elf
elf> in my opinion, the components went well
elf> In general, many thanks to all the organizers!
Well, just very good! There is no good place! Complete disregard for schedule, care
democompo for the dead of night, constantly pushing the Spectrum aside for the sake of everything
the rest. You rejoice because you have won. Perhaps the awards for spektrumists -
the only positive thing that was done in terms of Spectrum at this CC. Well,
and also a retro exhibition. Everything else was not for us. The organization is worse than ever
Just don’t go to such “parties” anymore.
Hello demon_zx
2 demon_zx - Ball Quest released today on Virtual TR-DOS.
http://trd.speccy.cz
Hello, Wlodek
Wlo> http://ftp.cc.org.ru/2006/
But even more precisely :), the work has already been posted:
http://ftp.cc.org.ru/2006/zx_video_cd/alco-shiro-game.avi
Hello demon_zx
dem> 2Wlodek; address; tell me where to look.
http://ftp.cc.org.ru/2006/
Hello, Wlodek
2Wlodek: tell me the address where to look.
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Maybe it’s worth selecting a person from the organization who would be involved in trucking
CHR> works?
Absolutely ALL problems in organizing the event this year were due to
lack of people. ONLY BECAUSE OF LACK OF PEOPLE. no one responds to requests for help
practically did not respond. people simply refused to do tedious work
A LOT of work. in the end it was necessary to plug all the holes with ourselves, of course not everywhere
kept up. want to help? so help me.
Hello, scl^mc
scl> if you send the work by mail, how can I find out which
scl> folder and under what name (suddenly it was changed, by accident or something like that)
scl> will my work be on an ftp server? and for registration it was necessary
scl> indicate.
scl> in 2004 I uploaded my module to an ftp server. lost one fig...
The archive name will naturally remain the same. and it will immediately be in the "MY WORKS" list
understandable.
In general, registering YOUR works is YOUR responsibility. why year after year
step on the same rake? and, most importantly, WHY be indignant if you yourself
screwed up?
Hello diver
Was it really that difficult to do everything, my...
and the site is the CC......that's all there is to register the work.
Hello cardin
cardin, why? the organizations have a catastrophic shortage of people, so many
operations are automated. To prevent work from being lost, a single database is needed. you're not
registered, what are your complaints? or someone should keep in mind
information about ~500 works? after all, transferring work to soap is a backup option,
The main one is registration + uploading to FTP. and the site made it possible to verify
that the work was flooded, that it was checked, to track the results of the preselection...
Hello Striker
Str> When the video was shown on ATM, the people in the hall expressed their opinion
Str> fe, and at the end there were shouts of “great work!” But after
Str> announced that this video is being shown on spec - they rang out
Str> applause and shouts of "Ruuuuullleeezzz!"
And on ATMka itself, Roman showed the rest of the videos (there were 16 in total, plus more
video game TIME GAL). Haven't you seen it? Only from the big screen?
Hello, random
ran> absolutely ALL problems occurred in organizing the event this year
ran> due to lack of people. ONLY BECAUSE OF LACK OF PEOPLE. to requests for
ran> Almost no one responded to help. people simply refused
ran> from doing tedious but NECESSARY work. in the end it was necessary to be yourself
ran> they didn’t have time to plug all the holes, of course. want to help? so
ran> help.
Unfortunately, I'm not from the joint venture. Secondly, I came specifically to this party and to
the previous one is specially a day earlier.
In 2005 I was one of the organizers, this year my help was not needed (according to ZX
there were enough orgs).
Random, in fact, for example, it’s completely clear what Frog was doing, what
Voropaev and Batenin, than Vega and Frolov, but exactly who was involved
acceptance of work - there was no such person, that’s why there were so many questions (and after all
work itself is one of the MAIN components of the party).
Now, if at the next party it is clearly stated that trucking is accepting work
KAKOYTOVICH is engaged, then everyone kicks him about “blah, where did it all go?”
will be and not the party in general :) . And KAKOYTOVICH stand over the soul of Rand, Vega and
others with the song “here they sent us the work, let’s show it” :v2_finge; And;if they don’t show the work, then personally give the stars to the person who did the job
(again, the organizations listed in the previous sentence).
Hello, random
ran> in general, registration of YOUR works is YOUR responsibility. why from
ran> step on the same rake year after year? and, most importantly, WHY
ran> be indignant if you screwed up yourself?
Maybe it’s worth selecting a person from the organization who would be involved in tracking the work?
Then there would be fewer problems and responsibility would hang on a specific person. Yes
and it would be easier to handle the works brought directly to the party...
For example, I had more complaints about the site - such a soooooooooooooo messy site
I haven’t seen Narod.ru since the days (of course, this may be due to the fact that people
it was bursting immeasurably :)). And the design was quite scary, it’s quick to find
the necessary link (for example, registration of works) was not easy.
Hello cardin
car> scl> would you still want to participate with this approach?
why not?
psb> and also record 2 wavs and mix anything :)
gee, cool... :D but it will eat up a lot of space
ran> the notification came only that the WORK was received by mail. and then what
ran> you didn’t register it on the site when IT WAS IN HUGE LETTERS
ran> WRITTEN, this is your jamb of stopuds.
if you send the work by mail, how can I find out in which folder and under
what name (suddenly it was changed, by accident or it just happened) my work will be on
ftp server? and for registration it was necessary to indicate.
in 2004 I uploaded my module to an ftp server. lost one piece...
Hello, Maksagor
> And on ATMka itself, Roman showed the rest of the videos (there were a total of them
> 16, plus the video game TIME GAL). Haven't you seen it? Only from the big
> screen?
I saw them directly at the exhibition. We reached Specter at the CC and immediately went to
exhibition of computers and there we met Roma “live”. And on the big one
screen - maybe I just missed it?
Hello, scl^mc
scl> as it turned out, the orgs simply planted the descriptor file. or rather, now
scl> saying that, sorry, dude, we didn’t know whose job it was
scl> file_id.diz type was not there! WAS!
It’s the same with the Amiga demo. the archive was given to the authorities directly at the party, naturally with
file file_id.diz, and the results included completely different information. that is, orgi
They don’t read file descriptors, but make lists of where they come from. Badly :(
Hello Vinny
the fact that they don’t read the diz file is very bad.
Hello cardin
newart> compare works by zabor by Zombie [4] - rating; 4.125;
and
Cracked World by Tukaram [2] - rating; 4.049;
and why did it turn out that way according to the scores??
you're an artist! answer.
Hello Striker
Str> I saw them directly at the exhibition. We are following Specter at the CC immediately
Str> we went to the computer exhibition and met Roma “live” there. A
Str> on the big screen - maybe I just missed it?
Demonstrated during the Wild competition, I probably missed it!
Hello elf
elf> what are you talking about? please tell me, I don’t know.
I heard something out of the corner of my ear that someone took the floppy disk overnight and brought the work to fruition.
But I don’t know if this is a fact... Let the ZX-orgs tell you, but it’s better not to - after all
this is an internal matter.
Hello, CHRV
No, I saw it during Wild. True, I remember only one video, below I wrote about
audience reaction.
Hello, Striker
heroes won't fade away?
Hello, CHRV
CHR> In 2005 I was one of the organizers, this year my help was not needed
CHR> (there were enough organizations for ZX).
CHR>
In fact, the sewing up was enormous. Kirill was endlessly engaged in repairs and
soldering computers, as well as solving deinterlacing and coding problems when
digitization. Black Fox just got busy preparing disks for Realtime (all
the real-time events that took place took place only thanks to him and Kirill), I suffered with
maintaining a database, tracking work, digitizing, maintaining a database again -
by entering information about digitized works there, I solved a bunch of side problems
(digitizing video from ATM, searching for a monitor for Pentagon 1024SL - that was mine
large TV) :), coordinated the correct display of our digitized
works on the PC for display (I was trying to get people to install codecs), at night
prepared a program for cracking compo - people then spent 2.5 hours breaking it :),
You won’t remember everything. I also tried to find time and communicate with people, but in
in the end I only received: 1) incoherent claims from Kano, whom I really wanted
help, but I still didn’t understand what he wanted, and 2) phrases like “Vega, went to
";%", and embarrassment when they noticed me and that I heard it :)
Hello, CHRV
CHR> I heard something out of the corner of my ear that someone took the floppy disk for the night and finished it
CHR> work to perfection. But I don’t know if this is a fact... Let the ZX-orgs tell you, huh
CHR> it’s better not to - after all, this is an internal matter.
I really want the person himself to talk about this - he reads this post.
Besides, I understand that he does not consider it something shameful. So let it be
will explain his position.
I don’t want to talk about it at all, it’s unpleasant for me. We need to talk about the disadvantages and
advantages of the festival, and about what exactly needs to be done and what to work on in order to
There were fewer minuses, and more pluses. And honesty or dishonesty is personal
everyone's business. And I’m not a supporter of publicly condemning a person.
Hello Surfin' Bird
Sur> 2Vega - And how did you manage to get a swastika through the preselect?
Sur> :v2_conf2;
What; As for the swastika, I really didn’t want to miss it, people are a witness. But also
bFox, and fk0, and ra7 said that it’s nothing special, it’s just ancient Slavic
symbol. Attracted orgs passing by, there's nothing wrong with that either.
saw. I decided not to insist on my opinion, especially after the disqualification
karbofos, where I realized that what seems obvious to me may not be so
appear for others. Those. that I could simply be wrong.
The swastika passed the preselection by the majority opinion.
Hello new art
new> If so, why didn’t the proud orgs ask anyone for help?
new> And didn’t take advantage of Digalt’s experience?
new>
Everyone asked for help, and is still asking for help. You just need the person to be real
did something, rather than walking around proudly with the consciousness “I am the organizer of the CC!” :)
As for DiHalt, we already have enough experience. This year
DiHalt was better, but the next one could be worse. Here once at a time.
Hello Vega
Vega, let's quickly disqualify the winning entry
only due to DEVELOPMENTS OUTSIDE THE TIME OF IMPLEMENTATION. what are you waiting for? that's all
will they forget? or that the person himself will now begin to make excuses about it? fuck you
is this necessary? write it as it is.
Hello, scl^mc
scl> 2random; e-mine.; Just because you're a moderator doesn't give you the right to swear in
scl> open. at least covered up the ****s
Sorry, I was scared.
but in general, without swearing, the situation is indescribable. if Vega doesn’t announce it before Monday
my version, I will be forced to tell you what I know myself.
Hello Vinny
Vinnny, sometimes it’s difficult to understand what the authors mean when it’s written in the regform
one thing, and another in file_id.diz. Moreover, single works are registered as
from the group. Here, in any case, you won’t please them with cuts. However, the text is ready
version, I hope it is closer to the truth.
Hello Vega
Veg> is just an ancient Slavic symbol.
in the "Old Slavic" (in fact, this is the Aryan symbol of the sun) symbol of the region
turned the other way
Hello, scl^mc
2random: oh my. Just because you are a moderator does not give you the right to swear openly.
at least covered up the ****s
Hello Vega
Vlad, my name is actually Andrey.
And what are the details? I saw this man drawing something
just like that - BGE was loaded on the computer and it was clearly poked with an arrow
back and forth. I haven't seen him code anything, so I ask you to
Don't bring any disputes into the mix. After we left the realtime competition zone, I
Almost immediately I took a fancy to a couple of chairs and dozed off until the morning, and at 6:20
I left the festival altogether.
Hello, random
ran> sorry, I was scared.
ran> but in general, without swearing the situation is indescribable. if Vega is not until Monday
ran> will voice his version, I will be forced to tell you what I know myself.
One of the authors completed the work after finishing Reatime Coding Compo,
taking advantage of the fact that the disks with the works were lying near the compo-computers and
were only digitized this morning. This is without details. Details of how the author
of this work, I was kicked out at night because of the compo machine - from Sergei Baglay (Striker)
- he witnessed this.
It’s hard to say where the author added everything. Probably - in the morning at the exhibition, for
Pentagon or ATM.
The dishonesty of this situation lies in the fact that real-time coding compo is
a competition where participants must write a sketch from scratch. And the author of this work,
as it became known, he wrote a paper there that he was preparing for 512b Intro
Compo, but was not completed by him (this contestant is famous for not having time to
add programs). I think everyone knows who this is.
Of course, I should have not missed this work right away - but I didn’t react
promptly due to his exhaustion. My other guilt is given out for his merits
the author received a free invitation, as a result of which he had a bracelet with the inscription
V.I.P., which allowed him to freely pass by security.Overall, I think the work should be disqualified. What's the opinion
to the public? You can arrange a vote, like with the work of Karbofos :smile:
Hello, Wlodek
Wlo> Organization - couldn't be worse, just don't go to these anymore
Wlo> "party".
Wlodek, sorry for the comment, but I bow to Vlad for being
I did...it’s just that the SS switched to a different format, as they say now...but
what is the way out?! Where is our sponsor(s) who will provide spektrumists with more
comfortable conditions...at least in connection with the 25th anniversary.
Hello Striker
Str> Vlad, my name is actually Andrey.
Sorry :smile:
Hello Vega
Veg> As for the swastika, I really didn’t want to miss it, people
Veg> witness. But bFox, fk0, and ra7 said that it was nothing special
Veg> is just an ancient Slavic symbol.
Yeah. Apparently they were confused by the "originally ancient Slavic" German shepherd on
foreground. Well, a start has been made, I think that at the next CC
An ancient Slavic eagle holding a similar symbol will also not meet with objections
organizers Congratulations. :v2_smoke;
Veg>; The swastika passed the preselection by the majority opinion.
And this is the most disgusting thing :v2_sick:
Hello Vega
what other format?
Hello cardin
Is another format a more serious organization of the action or something?
should everything be better and more global? especially regarding responsibility for
organizing and work?
Hello Surfin' Bird
Sur> And this is the most disgusting thing :v2_sick;
Ha; actually, I agree. Here you can remember that Hitler came to Germany
to power through democratic elections. What comes to my mind to do for
in order to prevent such a situation in the future - trivially detailed
write down things that will cause disqualification. For both graphics and
music (for example, the similarity of the melody is already a reason for disqualification
won't).
Hello Surfin' Bird
It would be nice to hear the author’s comments about the swastika. my opinion is work
ambiguous, you’ll never know whether a negative attitude is expressed towards the subject or not.
Hello Surfin' Bird
When painting a picture, an artist usually puts some meaning into it.. In addition
swastikas and shepherd dogs, I also saw the green paws of a certain creature (monster),
carrying with them the swastika towards the light (towards the sun -> to the fire -> to
the underworld).. Maybe this is the main idea? At least
I didn’t notice any propaganda of fascism as such..
Although all this is very subjective, so please don’t throw dirt at me..
Hello, CHRV
wow, send me that demo with a ditty on raynoa (at) gmail.com!
I’ll be grateful, I’ll send the cat “Whiskas” by mail =))
Hello Vega
Veg> It’s hard to say where everything was added by the author. Probably in the morning
Veg> exhibition, for Pentagon or ATM.
ATM definitely didn’t have a 5.25 disk drive, and it seems the Pentagon didn’t either.
Hello, CHRV
CHR> ATM definitely didn’t have a 5.25 disk drive, and it seems the Pentagon didn’t either
CHR> was.
This means that it was written on real-time machines. I just got so carried away
that moment with digitization that I simply did not have the opportunity to see who was doing what
where did you do it? As with the book on coding components, which I only learned about in
Sunday evening, i.e. after the party, and they tell me that I knew about it right away.
Maybe I was looking straight at her :smile; But; engage in objective assessment
I was simply unable to understand what was happening during the festival. This is exactly what
explains the disqualification a week after the party (lvd answer): it was
everything that happened was analyzed, appropriate conclusions were drawn and accepted
appropriate solutions.
And in general, our conversation was somehow wrong: there was a violation of the rules,
and the violation is gross. Moreover, it is so obvious that even to deny it
impossible. And here the conversation is not about how ugly he acted
man, but that we, the organizers, did not see it in time. This is what I am
Sorry, I don’t really understand. I believe that the claims in this case are to
organizers and their decision to disqualify Newart's work should not be in
principle. Claims and questions should be directed to Newart. Or did I just stop
understand anything in this world.
Hello Vega
Veg> So it was written on real-time machines after all. I'm just so
Veg> was busy at that moment with digitization, which I simply didn’t have
Veg> opportunities to see who did what where.
Vega is burning. =)
For a day and a half in a row you looked and wondered whether I was acting honestly or not.
finishing the intro in your free moments WITH YOU? Who digitalized it on the SECOND day?
Who brought the floppy disk on the SECOND day? Now you are writing about a book, but you yourself
You admit that the head of real-time is Black Fox, I personally spoke to him about the book
I asked on the phone on Friday if I needed to bring anything, the answer was
positive. That is, there is complete confusion among the ZX organizers. Should I remember
what happened to the music preselect?
Vlad, I acted as ugly as you.
You had 4 options:
1. Don't accept my job
2. Accept and show what I managed in 2 hours
3. Let me finish the work, but show it outside the competition
4. That's what happened.
However, the most inadequate option N4 was chosen
I have no complaints about disqualification, only complaints about how
all this is presented. (despite the huge number of witnesses)
Hello Vega
Veg> So it was written on real-time machines after all. I'm just so
Veg> was busy at that moment with digitization, which I simply didn’t have
Veg> opportunities to see who did what where.
Vega is burning. =)
For a day and a half in a row you looked and wondered whether I was acting honestly or not.
finishing the intro in your free moments WITH YOU? Who digitalized it on the SECOND day?
Who brought the floppy disk on the SECOND day? Now you are writing about a book, but you yourself
You admit that the head of real-time is Black Fox, I personally spoke to him about the book
I asked on the phone on Friday if I needed to bring anything, the answer was
positive. That is, there is complete confusion among the ZX organizers. Should I remember
what happened to the music preselect?
Vlad, I acted as ugly as you.
You had 4 options:
1. Don't accept my job
2. Accept and show what I managed in 2 hours
3. Let me finish the work, but show it outside the competition
4. That's what happened.
However, the most inadequate option N4 was chosen
I have no complaints about disqualification, only complaints about how
all this is presented. (despite the huge number of witnesses)
Hello new art
new> I downloaded the digitizations and the sound in them CBA, channel B is really great
new> quiet
if this is the case, then I ask the organizers to remove the digitization of dem from the server. not
It is worth distributing works with obviously incorrect sound. take into account stereo mode
your equipment for the future, please. I'm at the beginning of the demo selecting channels
I did it specifically for this.
Hello Raynoa
ray> chrv, send me that demo with a ditty on raynoa (at) gmail.com!
ray> I will be grateful, I will send the cat "Whiskas" by mail =))
Yeah, I'll send it in the evening!
By the way, this song is from the cartoon “For the First Time in the Arena”.
Hello elf
elf> if this is the case, then I ask the organizers to remove the digitizations from
elf> server. You should not distribute works that are obviously incorrect
elf> with sound. consider the stereo mode of your equipment for the future
elf> please. At the beginning of the demo, I selected channels specifically for this purpose.
The works will be re-digitized and posted in normal form, based on the correct
channel layouts.
Hello Vega
Veg> The swastika was pre-selected by the majority opinion.
H-yes..
CC turns from TseTse to eSeS..
At the next party, instead of paper strips, they will give out armbands..
Hello Vega
Veg> The works will be re-digitized and posted in normal form, based on
Veg> correct channel layout.
And if it’s not difficult, do deinterlacing.
Hello elf
elf> if this is the case, then I ask the organizers to remove the digitizations from
elf> server.
In fact, the stereo channels L and R are most likely simply mixed up there.
But it’s not entirely clear why channel B is so quiet, I have it on TS
everything is fine. In general, this year they promised to play something on the sound remote control,
in order to mix the channels (so that there are 3 channels in each of the columns).
Hello new art
new> Vega is burning. =)
new> You spent a day and a half in a row looking and thinking, I’m acting honestly
new> or not, adding intro in your free moments WITH YOU?
new>
Not a day and a half, but somewhere overnight. Of course I saw that you were looking for some
music after all the work was handed in, but that still didn’t go anywhere.
But I didn’t think that you would finish writing the demo after the competition, I hoped
on the integrity of the contestants.
> about the book, I personally asked him on the phone on Friday whether it was necessary
> what to bring, the answer was positive. That is, the face is full
> chaos of ZX organizers. I need to remember what happened with the preselect
> music?
>
The question, as you understand, is not in the book. Again, no one thought that
someone will copy from books instead of using them
as reference material. Yes, my idea with a homemade reference book was
good, now I understand it...
Preselect music? I didn't participate in it at all. Because they carried out
it in the emulator and on decent computer speakers. Thought
They'll turn on big speakers in the hall... shit. :-(
> You had 4 options:
> 1. Do not accept my work > 2. Accept and show what I managed in 2 hours
> 3. Let me finish the work, but show it outside the competition
> 4. That’s what happened.
>
The organizers drew conclusions. Next year there will be discs
clearly signed in the form, accepted and hidden in a large
iron safe (which we are all actively looking for now).
Questionnaires without a time column and the corresponding work will be immediately available
disqualify. And finally, the power supply for Spectrum machines will be
carried out through a program-controlled switch,
which will be turned off using the big red button,
and can only be turned on using a secret encryption key located
in a sealed envelope in that same safe.
Hello fk0
fk0> Not a day and a half, but somewhere overnight.
Evening, night, morning
> The question, as you understand, is not in the book. Again, no one thought that
> someone will copy from books instead of using them
> reference material.
>
That means you can’t copy anything from your brochure either?
Pritsnip: look, but don't use?
What's the point then?
What actually can be copied from the book besides the interrupt handler, numbers
AY ports and other little things?
By the way, on PC Realtime no one forbade using F1...
And the idea with the brochure is great!! But the implementation failed, the font is too small (2mm?),
lack of light in the room.
> Next year the discs will be clearly marked
>
Are they also broken? ;)
> in the application form and hide in a large iron safe (search
> which we are all actively busy with now). Questionnaires without time and columns
> corresponding works will be immediately disqualified. And finally
> Spectrum machines will be powered through a switch.
None of this happened on PC Realtime, but the competition was almost perfect.
Draw your next conclusions.
Hello fk0
5.25" floppy disks are a very good idea! Where the hell can you get a laptop with their support
Hello new art
someone please give me a rating for the track heroes... very nunno :)
Hello new art
new> PC Realtime didn’t have all this, but the competition was almost perfect.
new> Draw your next conclusions.
Last year ZX Realtime also went almost perfectly (not taking into account the fact that you
I also didn’t have time to finish the work). And what conclusions should we draw?
Hello new art
new> In fact, the stereo channels L and R are most likely simply mixed up there.
new> But it’s not entirely clear why channel B is so quiet, I have it on TS
new> everything is fine. In general, this year they promised to twist something on
new> sound console in order to mix channels (what would be in each of the speakers
new> 3 channels).
Unfortunately, our insistent demands for channel mixing have not been met.
reacted. They said that I would “twist it as it is.” You may have to
in the future we will do it ourselves, at the level of digitization.
Hello new art
new> How did you show it then?
new> I honestly don’t remember that I “didn’t have time” to get witnesses and evidence to the studio.
new> It is much more important that this year Spectrums and floppy disks were almost in
new> is not working, I consider this the main jamb. It looks like you
new> we decided to arrange Realtime ZX Realtime Compo for ourselves.
No, by “failed” I mean that the work was “unfinished”. With jumping
colored familiar signs on the screen. Or was it intended that way? :) As for
the state of Spectrums and floppy disks this year - your remark is fair, this
This is probably our biggest mess this year. Fortunately, we can fix it -
Spectrums are being resoldered for next year right now. Just like what
Next year in the real-time zone we will switch exclusively to 3.5" drives.
Hello Vega
Veg> Last year, ZX Realtime also went almost perfectly (not taking into account
Veg> because you also didn’t have time to finish the work).
How did you show it then?
I honestly don’t remember that I “didn’t have time” to bring witnesses and evidence to the studio.
It is much more important that this year Spectrums and floppy disks were almost inoperative
condition, I consider this the main jamb. It looks like you decided for yourself
arrange Realtime ZX Realtime Compo. ;)
Hello Vega
Veg> As well as the fact that next year we will move to the real-time zone
Veg> exclusively for 3.5" drives.
It’s probably worth putting two of them just in case, since they’re standing now
150-200 rubles per piece.
Hello Vega
Veg> No, by “failed” I mean that the work was “unfinished”. S
Veg> with colored familiar places jumping across the screen. Or was it intended that way?
Yes, of course.
If you look at the final version, you will see 90% of the same.
Did this year's real-time intros look more complete?
That's why realtime is realtime. I don’t even deny that I’m slow-witted and code
something is difficult for me within 2 hours, add constant bugs in the code here
and the result. It seems to me that real-time coding needs some fresh solutions,
since progress in the work is not visible and viewing them is of particular interest to
does not attract spectators.
Hello diver
div> in PC realtime this was the case. coding a media album with ready-made graphics is
div> does not display the logo on the screen.
No, media album is a big word. In reality it all came down to "use 8
pictures and 1 music".
Hello new art
in PC realtime it was like that. coding a media album with ready-made graphics is not
display the logo on the screen.
Hello copperfeet
cop> H-yes..
cop> CC turns from TseTse to eSeS..
cop> At the next party, instead of paper strips, they will give out sleeve stripes
cop> bandages..
+100
Hello, yoko_ono
some demos may be displayed on atm, IMHO, incorrectly
Hello, CHRV
CHR> www.microsoft.com
:D :D :D :D :D
Hello, scl^mc
scl> in "Old Slavic" (in fact, this is an Aryan symbol for the sun)
scl> character edges are turned in the other direction
IMHO, this badge from India was...
Hello, yoko_ono
yok> IMHO, this icon was from India...
Didn't the Aryans come from India by any chance?
Hello, yoko_ono
yok> IMHO, this icon was from India...
God, at least one of us went to school!!!! And then they cheated here...
Hello, scl^mc
scl> did the Aryans by any chance come from India?
maybe they came to india?
Hello, moroz1999
mor> in the picture it has a clear fascist meaning.
what motivates this?
Hello Orionsoft
what is motivated? my statement?
damn, have you seen with your own eyes at least one person who over the last 20
years ago he drew the swastika not in a “German-fascist context”? At least one
a Hindu who decided to enter his typically Hindu and
a symbol filled with higher meaning? Why? Maybe because in ancient and
In a beautiful context, why does no one need this symbol? To hell with that
context, who remembered, if not for our Nazis, who needed their shit
somehow excuse it, so they pulled all sorts of ancient Slavicisms like
"Symbol of the Sun" etc.
No, of course, I’m not saying anything unequivocally - perhaps this is a work
truly symbolizes the unity of the deep roots of the past in the person of the wondrous
ancient sign, seized by the terrible hypothetical claws of the dense
ignorance of a person who does not distinguish between a fascist swastika and a beautiful
ancient Slavic-pagan-Hindu symbolism, and hopeful pagan
future, which found its expression in the face of the typically pagan German
shepherd dogs, but, excuse me, I’m not going to believe such nonsense, and I won’t understand you if
you are going to prove to me something in a similar spirit.
and notice that I never once said my opinion on whether it was worth it
prohibit or allow the participation of this work among others, just don’t powder
please brain me with your Hinduism.
Hello icebear
who cares where this icon comes from? in the picture it has a clear
fascist meaning. Or is this not obvious to you?
Hello, moroz1999
http://www.cc6.org.ru/index.php?uid=forum_message_list&uid_forum_topic=199389&u
id_forum_section=301&offset=end#226523
about Spekkov’s work (demo) at the CC.
Hello Orionsoft
Why are you ALL attached to this picture?
Is it really true that there were no more really interesting jobs for you on CC?!
Hello icebear
by the way, yes. For me personally, the technique of combining reduced
brightness and texture that Diver used :)
I was really surprised, because I didn’t think it was possible to do anything else on Speccy
dodge :D
Hello, moroz1999
mor> by the way, yes. For me personally, the combination technique was new
mor> reduced brightness and texture
Which one has he been using for the last 6 years? ;)
Hello fk0
fk0> So what? Taboo? Is it forbidden to depict? This is history. Which
fk0> cannot be banned or rewritten.
Might pass for propaganda. Just like the hammer and sickle, just like inverted
a cross, just like crossed Kalash rifles under a crescent.
Hello Surfin' Bird
Sur> And this is the most disgusting thing :v2_sick;
Prohibit; just for a symbol - even more disgusting. I'd like to
In place of the authors, I tried not to exhibit works on demo-parties where there are
similar form of censorship.
Are there other options? Except how to leave this question between
viewers and authors, which was done.
Censorship covered up by idiotic “political correctness” is nothing
otherwise, I don’t know how much you can understand this when YOU
limit the objective perception of information. YOU. And not
author. I agree to undergo this voluntarily, so that for you
they thought in the party committee (there are swastikas, stars or striped flags -
matter ten) is your personal matter. But I think many people don’t share
your opinion.
PS; every; times when I see these, so-called. "anti-fascists", ready to be slim
go in rows to register as fascists.
Hello Vega
Veg> As for the swastika, I really didn’t want to miss it, people
Veg> witness. But bFox, fk0, and ra7 said that it was nothing special
Veg> is just an ancient Slavic symbol. Attracted passing by orgs
Veg>
There is no need to pull things by the ears. Yes, this is a fascist symbol.
At least that's how it is perceived. Nobody doubted this.
And what? Taboo? Is it forbidden to depict? This is history. which
You can’t ban it or rewrite it. Someone, of course, may think differently,
but these are his personal difficulties.
Hello new art
new> Which he (and others) has been using for the last 6 years? ;)
new>
new> By the way, let me see the phases of your pictures, it’s interesting.
there is only one of mine, so there are only its phases, and, knowing the person who
I drew the second one, I bet there were no phases there at all :D
catch the drugs, in short.
at what stage were both works signed with my name - xs, file_id.diz
there were applications and they were correct. Where I could, I tried to correct this error, but
In general, it’s not my business to fix this problem for the organizers. Yes, they don’t care
In general, they haven’t even corrected everything on their website. By the way, this is quite
clearly shows the general attitude towards Speccy that I noticed when I was on cc5 -
Speccy seemed to be just there for show. Maybe it's not true
For some reason I just had that impression.
Hello new art
I partially copied it - yes, because I’m not an artist and I don’t pretend to be. redrawn and
I changed my plans no matter how many times, but did not convert.
the second work was drawn by a well-known girl with the nickname
^moo-moo^. Is this noted in the results?
Hello, moroz1999
mor> catch the drugs, in short.
mor>
Thanks, I see it looks a lot like a partial conversion.
> at what stage were both works signed with my name - idk,
> file_id.diz were applications and were correct. Where I could, I made this mistake
> I tried to fix it, but in general it would take a while to fix this bug
> organizers are none of my business. Yes, they don’t care in general, they even have
> they didn’t correct themselves everywhere on the site. This, by the way, is quite clear
> shows the general attitude towards Speccy that I noticed when I was on
> cc5 - Speccy seemed to be just there for show. Maybe
> this is not true, for some reason I just have that impression.
The impression is not correct, for Frog/Random it may be just for show, but definitely not
for the Spectrum part of the organizers, I’m talking about all years.
So who is the author of the second work?
Hello, moroz1999
mor> at what stage were both works signed with my name - idk,
mor> file_id.diz were attachments and were correct. Where I could, I made this mistake
mor> I tried to fix it, but in general it would take too long to fix this bug
mor> organizers are none of my business. Yes, they don’t care in general, they even have
mor> they did not correct themselves everywhere on the site.
Well, he would have told us so! We would fix it right away. We can’t do everything ourselves
keep track of the world.
Corrected.
Hello Vega
When I noticed it, I wrote to the email address listed on the site. noticed that there was
corrected in off. results.
Hello, moroz1999
There was no need to depict a cross anyway... somehow it’s all wrong...
my personal opinion...
Hello cardin
car> there was no need to depict a cross anyway... somehow that’s not all right...
car> my personal opinion...
to depict or not is up to the artist.
Whether to show it to everyone or not is up to the preselector.