TASiS - iSDOS for a text screen.

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From Timonin Maxim Anatolievich To All 27 November 2005

Hello, CHRV CHR> Probably no one paid attention, but the TASiS distribution kit is already on CHR> http://atmturbo.nedopc.com. CHR> The OS greatly benefited from the use of 80x25 text mode. CHR> Today Max came to see me and showed me various tricks, honestly CHR> speaking, I was pleasantly surprised by the possibilities. Actually, when the distribution was released in early November, I posted on the forum official message in the "events" section. So if anyone hasn't noticed attention, I don't even know what to say... > In general, if I were the owner of the Pro, I would think about > portation. The rest - envy that there is no text mode :). Rather, you need to write your own localization isdos, since Pro after all, it’s not a text screen, but a hardware multicolor 512x240. So just changing port numbers and cosmetic tweaks is not enough - completely the entire screen output system needs to be redone: in a text console, after all, everyone the byte is displayed on the screen as a symbol (or the color of the entire familiarity). In Pro you will have to output the characters from the loaded font byte by byte the old fashioned way, and again color them byte by byte. Moreover, this screen,providedmatching attributes with familiarity for symbols will allow you to obtain a matrix 64x30 characters, but not 80x25 as in TASiS. So we'll have to do it again dig through the SHELL level and window menus to edit the window display and panels for the desired resolution. Plus, we radically need to rewrite a bunch of wood. I'm not saying that all this is impossible. On the contrary. It's just that the problem isn't porting TASiS to Profik, and reworking the isdos for it from scratch. Otherwise no way. And this is a titanic job, and you obviously won’t force Korsunin to do it, especially since he doesn’t have a Profik. And themselves... It’s good if someone is found, who not only wants to do it, but also sufficiently knows iS-DOS kernel device. Well... "We sing a song to the madness of the brave!" (and from myself - we wish you good luck!).

From Timonin Maxim Anatolievich To All 27 November 2005

Hello, CHRV CHR> Probably no one paid attention, but the TASiS distribution kit is already on CHR> http://atmturbo.nedopc.com. CHR> The OS greatly benefited from the use of 80x25 text mode. CHR> Today Max came to see me and showed me various tricks, honestly CHR> speaking, I was pleasantly surprised by the possibilities. Actually, when the distribution was released in early November, I posted on the forum official message in the "events" section. So if anyone hasn't noticed attention, I don’t even know what to say... > In general, if I were the owner of the Pro, I would think about > portation. The rest - envy that there is no text mode :). Rather, you need to write your own localization isdos, since Pro after all, it’s not a text screen, but a hardware multicolor 512x240. So just changing port numbers and cosmetic adjustments is not enough - completely the entire screen output system needs to be redone: in a text console, after all, everyone the byte is displayed on the screen as a symbol (or the color of the entire familiarity). In Pro you will have to output the characters from the loaded font byte by byte the old fashioned way, and Again, it’s time to paint them. Moreover, this screen, subject to matchingattributes with familiarity for symbols, will allow you to get a 64x30 matrix characters, but not 80x25. So you'll have to shovel the level again SHELL and window menus to preset the editing of the display of windows and panels to the desired resolution Plus, we radically need to rewrite a bunch of wood. I'm not saying that all this is impossible. On the contrary. It's just that the problem isn't porting TASiS to Profic, and remaking the isdos for it from scratch. There is no other way. And this is a titanic job, and you obviously won’t force Korsunin to do it, especially Moreover, he doesn’t have a Profik. And themselves... It’s good if someone can be found who not only wants to do this, but also sufficiently knows the structure of the kernel iS-DOS. Well... "We sing a song to the madness of the brave!" (and on our own behalf - we wish good luck!).

From Chunin Roman To All 27 November 2005

Hello SMT Probably no one paid attention, but the TASiS distribution kit is already on http://atmturbo.nedopc.com. The OS benefits greatly from the use of 80x25 text mode. Today Max came to see me and showed me various tricks, to be honest it was nice was surprised by the possibilities. In general, if I were the owner of the Pro, I would think about porting. The rest - envy that there is no text mode :).

From Alexander Yudin To All 27 November 2005

Hello, CHRV CHR> In general, if I were the owner of the Pro, I would think about CHR> portation. The rest - envy that there is no text mode We urgently need to make V9990 and port it to it. Then we won’t envy anyone you'll have to!

From Timonin Maxim Anatolievich To All 28 November 2005

Hello, CHRV Today I posted a new, slightly corrected one on the website http://atmturbo.nedopc.com version v1.01 of the operating system distribution kit OS TASiS v5.40. Distribution v1.00 was removed from the site as unnecessary. The differences between the two distributions are minimal and consist of about a dozen or two files, mostly configuration ones, and also in the new driver slv1_HDD.blk for IDE SLAVE devices. For those who already installed the v1.00 distribution on the hard drive, but wants to update it to the version v1.01, there is no need to rearrange the entire system. It is enough to replace (or add) files specified in the history.txt text file present in archive with the system.

From Timonin Maxim Anatolievich To All 28 November 2005

Hello, CHRV Today I posted a new, slightly tweaked version v1.01 of the OS operating system TASiS v5.40. The v1.00 distribution has been removed from the site as unnecessary. Differences between the two distributions are minimal and consist of about a dozen files, mainly setup ones, as well as in the new driver slv1_HDD.blk for IDE SLAVE devices. For those who have already installed the v1.00 distribution on the hard drive, but wants to update it to version v1.01, there is no need to rearrange the entire system. It is enough to replace (or add) the files specified in the text file history.txt, present in the archive with the system.

From Chunin Roman To All 16 December 2005

Hello, do_se do_> to Maxagor.... do_> Max, everything said below from the section “I repeat again, for special do_> smart, radio station “on a locomotive”. The fact is that I, for example, do_> fell out of the ranks of spektrumists for about 10 years and I don’t fully understand do_> the principle of operation of Speck with HDD in all three operating systems (TR-DOS, SR-M, do_> ISDOS). When I was doing spec, all this trouble was to be do_> implemented..... do_> So, is it possible to describe the installation in more detail for people like me? do_> on the hard drive and working with systems? Naturally, I mean TaSIS, do_> xbiosdos.... do_> Those descriptions that are on your website are, of course, sufficient do_> fully describe the principles of operation of the systems, but I believe that they are for do_> audiences with in-depth study of the subject... I recommend digging into the TASiS distribution disk, there are detailed descriptions there exactly how to install. I told Max that it was better to write to the doc, but I excused myself - I said that everything was fine. the distribution has turned on!

From Andrey Marinov To All 16 December 2005

Hello, CHRV CHR> I recommend digging into the TASiS distribution disk, there are detailed ones there CHR> descriptions of exactly how to install. And you can easily delve into the distribution using Far Manager + xFAR plugins.

From Dobrynin Sergey To All 16 December 2005

Hello, Maksagor to Maxagor.... Max, everything said below is from the section “I repeat again, for those who are especially smart, radio station "on the locomotive". The fact is that I, for example, fell out of the ranks Spectrumists are about 10 years old and I don’t fully understand the principle of how Speck works with HDD in all three operating systems (TR-DOS, SR-M, IsDOS). When I was doing spec all this trouble was to be implemented..... So, is it possible to describe in more detail for people like me the installation on a hard drive? disk and work with systems? Naturally, I mean TaSIS, xbiosdos.... The descriptions that you have on your website are, of course, quite complete. describe the principles of operation of the systems, but I believe that they are for an audience with in-depth study of the subject...

From Dobrynin Sergey To All 16 December 2005

Hello, CHRV CHR> Let's get her to the studio. Yes, there it is in Max’s post.

From Dobrynin Sergey To All 16 December 2005

Hello, Maksagor Thank you all very much for the clarification. I started with SR/M myself :mad: yesterday I dug into the docks sent by Roman along with ATM and found a typo. The problem with TASIS was this: on the one hand, I still can’t get around to packing ATM in AT case, I take it out and lay it out on the table in the evening in a wonderful a mess... I wish I could tear my hands off :mad: .... load the AXIS accordingly in real life, the half-torn hands still don’t reach. On the other hand, I use on the PC Total Commander and not FAR, and on total there is no fdi viewer :( you will have to download FAR.... I’ll ask questions about xbiosdos later, you need to first pack the ATM and a new ROM flash....

From Timonin Maxim Anatolievich To All 16 December 2005

Hello, CHRV CHR> Where is the thread I said that you didn’t write it :). Actually my experience CHR> indicates that the user needs a dock similar to SP/Me type CHR> do it once, do it twice. You can even include it in that file. But CHR> knowing your current employment, I do not require this. And it is written in exactly this style! Roman, knowing how busy you are, I’m coming to you complaints about the fact that you have a TASiS document, despite the fact that you have The subject is both on a floppy disk and on a screw, I still haven’t read it, I’m also not complaining. :) But still, when you have time, take a look and there will be fewer questions.

From Timonin Maxim Anatolievich To All 16 December 2005

Hello, CHRV CHR> Where is the thread I said that you didn’t write it :). Actually my experience CHR> indicates that the user needs a dock similar to SP/Me type CHR> do it once, do it twice. You can even include it in that file. But CHR> knowing your current employment, I do not require this. And it is written in exactly this style! Roman, knowing how busy you are, I’m coming to you complaints about the fact that you have a TASiS document, despite the fact that you have The subject is both on a floppy disk and on a screw, I still haven’t read it, I’m also not complaining. :) Still, when you have time, take a look - there will be fewer questions.

From Timonin Maxim Anatolievich To All 16 December 2005

Hello, do_se do_> I’ll ask questions about xbiosdos later, you must first pack the ATM and do_> Flash a new ROM.... The xBIOS document is here: http://atmturbo.nedopc.com/inf/books/nedopc/xbiosdoc.zip Happy reading!

From Chunin Roman To All 16 December 2005

Hello, do_se do_> Yes, there it is in Max’s post. And by a description you meant a description :), but by a description I understood literally - that We made some mistakes there, that is, we made mistakes. I just didn’t drive in, sorry!

From Chunin Roman To All 16 December 2005

Hello, do_se do_> I stepped into SR/M myself :mad: yesterday I dug through the documents sent by Roman do_> together with ATM and found a typo. Let's get her to the studio :). > Roman, stop being stupid. What excuses? I WROTE A DOCUMENT! And she lies on > distribution disk. Is there really a fundamental difference to understand > - is it there, or in the form of a Word file? Where is the thread I said that you didn’t write it :). In fact, my experience shows that the user needs a dock similar to SP/Me like do one, do two. You can even include it in that file. But knowing your current employment, I don’t I demand. Muscovites can get a ROM with HBIOS for Turbo from me by handing over the old ROM and paying extra 35 rubles. The only requirement for normal operation is the elimination memory confusion (see on my website).

From Chunin Roman To All 16 December 2005

Hello, Maksagor > But still, when you have time, take a look - there will be fewer questions. Yes, I’ll figure it out and even include it myself in the “Installation Instructions” file, I also plan to include a section on working with disks on the PC - also Users have a lot of questions.