RC 2.0

I am very glad to meet you Kirill! And the reason for this was Wednesday December 06 2000, 05:43, contact Kirill Frolov (500:812/23.25) to Uzer DE UD>> will be outdated or no longer needed. Why, because people don't sleep UD>> people do. And we have already made a demo version of TR-DOS Navigator with UD>> directory tree system! KF> This was done there in one place. It would be better if he didn't exist. In file ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Are you experiencing an orgasm, discouraging people from wanting to work?:((( KF> was it difficult to do? Take it and do it! Everyone has the right to make their own creation as they see fit. Not I like it, do it better!!! p.s. I don’t understand you :( You’re either trying to seem smarter than everyone else, or just do you like to criticize people and their projects?:((( Every second message of yours contains elements of attacking your interlocutor:(((( Are you such a war lover and don’t want to live in peace? [ZX] Always with you -=SMONT/AIS=- [SCORPION ZS-256 Turbo] [FIDO: 2:451/19.5] [ZXNet: 500:152/5]

Hello Uzer! Uzer DE ==========> Pawel Kislyak: skip/ UD> Oops! I feel like you will be discussing the design and capabilities of RC. Himself UD> RC will be obsolete or no longer needed. Why, but because people don't UD> sleep, people do. And we have already made a demo version of TR-DOS Navigator with UD> directory tree system! The author is thinking of adding a bunch of bells and whistles there UD>, very original. I think the people will support him in this, because UD> cactologists RULEZZ! Just not the way they were made, in the first place it was a big mistake to place information about directories in the "unused" sectors of track zero, since 2 sectors there are blocked when using magic, it’s very often a stealth boot hangs in this place, and there are no guarantees that some program will not spoil these sectors (stealth boot is easy will be reinstalled, but the directories cannot be restored). Secondly when compacting a disk from another commander, files in directories will get confused, although you can refuse to use other commanders in favor of the directory, but TRDN itself has not yet learned how to compact and copy. For the sake of experimentation, I copied a couple of files to disk with directories, with some probability the files ended up in subdirectories. UD> The demo works fine, although it doesn't copy yet. But UD> if the full version comes out, I'm afraid that RC will lose first place. Generally UD> the best optimal option for a commander would be to combine RC, PC What is PC - Perfect Commander? UD> and TRDN! (Hmm? I wonder if this is even real?) I'm in a hurry to remake the RC into two panels, but it's not completely possible I decided how to arrange everything on the screen. Bye! Pawel@nm.ru realsoft.nm.ru [RC 2.0 25%] [ZX] [Real Software]

Press RESET immediately, Pawel! 13 Dec 00 14:02, Pawel Kislyak wrote to Uzer DE: PK> I need to remake the RC into two panels, but it’s not final PK> decided how to arrange everything on the screen. Be sure to look at the CP.EXE shell in PTS-DOS - this is exactly what you need Spectrum. And not one panel or two (and not three or four).

I am very glad to meet you Pawel! And the reason for this was Wednesday December 13 2000, 14:02, appeal by Pawel Kislyak (500:162/0) to Uzer DE UD>> Oh! I feel like you will be discussing the design and capabilities of RC. Himself UD>> RC will be obsolete or no longer needed. Why, but because people don't UD>> sleep, people do. And we have already made a demo version of TR-DOS Navigator with UD>> directory tree system! The author is thinking of adding a bunch of bells and whistles there UD>>, very original. I think the people will support him in this, because UD>> cactologists RULEZZ! PK> But not the way they were made, in the first place it was a big mistake to place PK> information about directories in the "unused" sectors of track zero, PK> since 2 sectors there are blocked when using magic, very Does anyone else use it? PK> often there is a stealth boot hanging in this place, and there is no guarantee that PK> some program will not spoil these sectors (stealth boot is easy Having one commander who is more or less satisfactory, you will use the second one in exceptional cases. For example. Until now my desktop was RC and nothing elseThe bottle didn’t suit me, because almost everything I needed was in it. After I got a HDD boot by Light and I can’t stand it. RC is also under always lies with your hand and serves for the occasion when you need to sort disks on which garbage has accumulated. Because HDD boot does not transfer files. Surely this is the case for many. There is a favorite commander and they are of little interest to the other. Therefore, you don’t have to worry that some guy can do something You'll screw it up if you only use one. PK> will be reinstalled, but the directories cannot be restored). Secondly PK> when compacting a disk from another commander, files in directories Why compact it on another, if, I think, this commander is in the full version compaction will be realized. PK> will be mixed up, although you can refuse to use other commanders PK> in favor of the directory, but TRDN itself has not yet learned how to compact and Well, this is only a demo version :( PK> copy. For the sake of experiment, I copied a couple of files to disk PK> with directories, with some probability the files ended up in subdirectories. UD>> and TRDN! (Hmm? I wonder if this is even real?) PK> It’s impossible for me to remake the RC into two panels, but it’s not finalPK> decided how to arrange everything on the screen. So why not wait for two panel RC? :( [ZX] Always with you -=SMONT/AIS=- [SCORPION ZS-256 Turbo] [FIDO: 2:451/19.5] [ZXNet: 500:152/5]

Greetings, Pawel! One day, Pawel Kislyak wrote to Uzer DE about:RC 2.0 It was 13-Dec-00 PK> But not the way they were made, in the first place it was a big mistake PK> place information about directories in "unused" sectors PK> zero track, since 2 sectors are paired there PK> using magic, very often a stealth boot hangs in this place It is assumed that on such a disk there will be no magic reaping, and stealth boot will not be posted either. PK> and there are no guarantees that any program will not spoil these sectors PK> (stealth boot can be easily reinstalled, and directories PK> can no longer be restored). Secondly, when compacting the disk from Even if some program messes up the directory system, then the file system will remain unchanged. PK> another commander, the files in the directories are mixed up, although it is possible PK> refuse to use other commands in favor of the directory PK> but TRDN itself has not yet learned to compact and copy. For PK> experiment, I copied a couple of files to a disk with directories, c PK> with some probability the files ended up in subdirectories.So TRDN is like a demo version. Best regards, Roman Zadorin. [ZX] [Civilization]

Hello Pawel! Pawel Kislyak (500:162/0) wrote 14:02 13.12.00 to Uzer DE PK> But not the way they were made, in the first place it was a big mistake to place PK> information about directories in the "unused" sectors of track zero, PK> since 2 sectors there are blocked when using magic, very For some reason I thought that people were copying programs from commanders, but it turned out they were Magic is tight. That's bad luck. PK> often a stealth boot hangs in this place, This is the first time I've heard about this. I don’t rule out that there is some other SUPER-PUPER BOOT, which will sit there. So what of this? Why is DirSys worse than stealth boot? B after all, no sane person would create catalogs on all disks in a row. It is convenient to sort music, pictures, sources, texts, etc. and it’s unlikely that on such discs it would occur to anyone press Magic or install stealth boot. PK> yes and no guarantees that PK> some program will not spoil these sectors (stealth boot is easy PK> will be reinstalled, but the directories cannot be restored). “Yes, and there are no guarantees that some program” will not erase the zero track, not will format the disk, not... They are afraid of wolves - don’t go into the forest. "100% guaranteeOnly a dead man can give that he will not rise" (c) one of the science fiction writers, S. Lem in my opinion. PK> Secondly PK> when compacting a disk from another commander, files in directories PK> will be confused, And if you compress the system with something else, which will sit in a separate file, then nothing will get mixed up? Of course, you can specify the location not by numbers, but names - in this case everything will suffer (from copying to renaming other commanders) but MOVE will work everywhere. And let's stick it there too additional attributes as suggested by Kirill Frolov, then there will be a miracle half a disc. Yes, from the very beginning DirSys was invented as the most simple and compatible system. Well, it's not possible to make directories for TR-DOS with 100% compatibility where not to place and how not to organize additional information about directories: even in a zero track, even in a separate file, even for 159 track, one way or another something will conflict. PK> although you can refuse to use other commands PK> in favor of the directory, but TRDN itself has not yet learned how to compact He almost knows how to do it, just a little bit left. Yes, and in the help it was written that this not even a beta version, but just a demo demonstrating the capabilities of catalogs TR-DOS. PK> andPK> copy. Also very soon, immediately after MOVE. These are almost similar operations. PK> For the sake of experiment, I copied a couple of files to disk PK> with directories, with some probability the files ended up in subdirectories. Something is not very hard to believe. But in any case, until I finished TRDN, talk about anything early. Or are you trying to get me to give up everything? So it's easier than add. UD>> The demo works great, although it doesn't copy yet. But UD>> if the full version comes out, I'm afraid that RC will lose first place. Generally UD>> the best optimal option for the commander would be to combine RC, PC PK> What kind of PC is Perfect Commander? UD>> and TRDN! (Hmm? I wonder if this is even real?) PK> It’s impossible for me to remake the RC into two panels, but it’s not final PK> decided how to arrange everything on the screen. Best regards, Stanislav.

Hello Stanislav! Stanislav Udin ==========> Pawel Kislyak: PK>> But not the way they were made, in the first place it was a big mistake PK>> place directory information in "unused" sectors PK>> zero track, since 2 sectors there are paired at PK>> using magic, very SU> For some reason I thought that people copy programs as commanders, but SU> it turns out they are too tight on Magic. That's bad luck. For me it just sometimes works spontaneously ;) PK>> stealth boot often hangs in this place, SU> This is the first time I've heard about this. The installation program is called SB_INST2, authored by Cyberex/RS and me ;) SU> I do not rule out that there is another one SU> SUPER-PUPER BOOT, which will sit there. So what of this? What is DirSys Is SU> worse than stealth boot? After all, no sane person would SU> will create directories on all consecutive disks. It’s convenient to use catalogs SU> sort music, pictures, sources, texts, etc. and hardly SU> on such disks, someone will think of pressing Magic or betting SU> stealth boot. I agree. PK>> although you can refuse to use other commanders PK>> in favor of the directory, but TRDN itself has not yet learned how to compact SU> He can almost do it, just a little bit left. Yes, and it was in the help SU> it is written that this is not even a beta version, but just a demo SU> TR-DOS directory capabilities. PK>> and copy. SU> Also very soon, immediately after MOVE. These are almost similar SU> operations. And at first I wrote copying, I was busy for 3 days, and the seal is a simplified copying, I did it in 1 day, (I'm afraid that now I won't repeat these feats), I even have Somehow there was an idea to combine copy and move in order to save memory, Yes, only for me, and so in the process of copying the devil himself will break his leg ;). PK>> For the sake of experimentation, I copied a couple of files to disk PK>> with directories, with some probability the files ended up in PK>> subdirectories. SU> Something is not very hard to believe. Most likely it was not TRDN's fault, but a glitch in the directory system disk that came via echo. SU> But in any case, I haven’t finished TRDN yet SU> it’s too early to talk about anything. Or are you trying to ensure that I do everything? SU> quit? So it’s easier than finishing it. I’m not trying to achieve this, on the contrary, I think it’s healthy competition helps improve the quality of programs. Bye! Pawel@nm.ru realsoft.nm.ru [RC 2.0 25%] [ZX] [Real Software]

Buongiorno! Greetings, dear Kirill! A long time ago, namely Tuesday January 9, 2001 at 00:28:38, two people argued: Kirill Frolov and Pawel Kislyak on the topic RC 2.0. It's time to intervene... SU>>> For some reason I thought that people copy programs SU>>> commands, a SU>>> it turns out they are too tight on Magic. That's bad luck. These are probably those who bought the drive yesterday ;-). KF> Opened the file, read it, wrote it... Everything is too simple KF> for some reason it seems to me. Of course it’s simple, but the Turbo-loader is clearly not enough, well as in Global Commander 1.31i, I find it very convenient feaster and compactor. KF> Your work to improve quality in a disastrous way KF> affects the Spectrum. KF> By supporting TR-DOS you do not allow any development KF> Spectrum OS which is so long ago Everyone needs KF>. Take iS-DOS for example - there was an editor there IS-TORMOZ! :( KF> modem programs, unzip and Tozhe-TORMOZ! KF> a lot of other things and they used it. Then they redid everything KF> were able to run under tr-dos and iS-DOSKF> is now of no use to anyone. And there were catalogs, KF> which you are inventing here, and KF> the screw is connected normally and much more. And they returned KF> back to 1982, on the emulator KF> tape recorder... :-( Super-TORMOZ! Arrivederci!

Press RESET immediately, Dmitry! 15 Jan 01 04:13, Dmitry Stepanov wrote to Kirill Frolov: KF>> Your work to improve quality in a disastrous way KF>> affects the Spectrum. By supporting TR-DOS you do not allow development KF>> no Spectrum OS that everyone has needed for so long. Take KF>> for example iS-DOS - there was an editor there DS> IS-TORMOZ! :( Tormoz is not iS-DOS, but a user. Because he can’t configure the system so so that it doesn't slow down. If you launch from the flop, then of course it will slow down. KF>> the screw is connected normally and much more. And we returned back to KF>> 1982, on a tape recorder emulator... :-( DS> Super-TORMOZ! I absolutely agree - the tape recorder emulator (aka TR-DOS) is super slow for Spectrum.