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From Oleg Dokukin To Mihail Zharov 27 August 2000

Hello Mikhail! 11 Oct 00 05:37, Mihail Zharov -> Sergey Selev: Well, what should I say to you about this? 4 panels is too much, taking into account also the 5th information panel panel - you get too much information, your eyes hurt. 3 panels is a perversion. 1-panel shells are morally outdated, and in general they are not convenient. 2 panels are just right. But the most useful thing is the configurable number of panels :) although this may not be the case joke. WBR, Light from DCG aka Oleg Dokuki

From Oleg Dokukin To Mihail Zharov 27 August 2000

Hello Mikhail! 13 Oct 00 06:58, Mihail Zharov -> Oleg Dokukin: OD>> Well, what should I say about this. MZ> Truth. True, hmm, only for money :) OD>> 3 panels are a perversion. MZ> Not more than about a year ago you stated the opposite... If you are talking about 3 panels, then I always thought that this was a perversion. If about 4, well what can I say, I just grew up a little, besides the army, you understand, your outlook on life changes radically :) OD>> 1-panel shells are morally outdated, but in general OD>> are not convenient in principle. but at least you agree with this? OD>> 2 panels are just right. MZ> And I thought that I would sooner turn gray than you would understand this. ;) didn't sit? , look, everything is still ahead (I’m just kidding so stupidly) MZ> Remember our debates about the “golden mean”. I repent, I am a fool, I am a sinner, I undertake to correct myself, I undertake to carry out the “correction” report back :) OD>> But the most useful thing is the configurable number of panels :) although OD>> maybe this is not a joke. MZ> Yes, just a joke. Since the resolution is the same... it means either MZ> empty space, or we lose information content.Or maybe it’s not a joke, the whole point is not in the resolution, but in the brains of the system engineer, and in common sense of the user! MZ> You can still click fonts, but it’s not funny anymore. That's for sure. MZ> ps. 1. address /8.53 killing? Yes unfortunately :( MZ> 2. I heard a rumor about a new software - when will it be? Well, what did I once again promise to someone while drunk? even to me interesting :) No seriously, when I’m drunk, I sometimes give out such projects that I immediately but in sobriety, I want to sit down and write them. Tell me, maybe I’ll take it. MZ> 3. I have a crowd of developments for a 64-character service MZ> if you are interested in creation, then go to the soap. I'm specifically interested in everything, especially the sources for sm and storm. MZ> 4. at one time you promised source codes - is this still possible? MZ> (they won’t leave me) Unreal, not because of my pathological greed, but because of, hmm reason Mr. Blade (yes, who has been making DME 2.00 for a year now) he told me radish, what he said when I asked him if it could be transferred in the form of an image Spekov screw, on a PC, he said, like suck your fingers Oleg, you can’t do anything, I took note, killed everything from Spekov, and a week after that, he told mesays something like “I found a way to actually transfer the image to a PC.” Guess what setup?. Eh Blades, with your actions you set up the entire Spekrymsky The public is under attack! You are a radish. In short, the sources are ok :( But in fact, not all is lost, now I’m not writing anything under the spec the reason is that I have three 40, and shalaev on it goes 3 times slower than real spec, I'm going to buy myself here P1 - 166-233 after which, at If I have a certain base (a certain number of sources), I will write for the spec. So for this it is necessary, 1. I should buy a normal computer. (personal problem) 2. a certain number of sources (to have something to build on) 3. person (real, who would kick me from time to time) 4. people (like-minded people - coders - systems engineers - united by one idea) 5. non-professional attitude of the Spectrum public (as it was at that time the period of time when I wrote my hddcommander) WBR, Light from DCG aka Oleg Dokuki

From Oleg Dokukin To Mihail Zharov 28 August 2000

Hello Mikhail! 14 Oct 00 22:11, Mihail Zharov -> Oleg Dokukin: MZ> Yes, views are changing, and needs are growing... ;) Hmm, you definitely noticed that about the needs... MZ> Yes. Of course. A start has been made :) MZ> I won’t turn gray anymore, because I realized that it’s better not to argue, but to get things done. and how are things going (pun, gentlemen)? MZ> 0.5, no 0.7, nope 1.0K of writing cool code every day. MZ> On weekends you can relax with sprites, music and strawberries. MZ> ;))) No, drawing and composing music is not for me, I’m a fool at this. And on the topic of the code - as they say in our prosecutor's office: "without an investigation plan - no step" i.e. If you write anything, then only after thinking everything over to the smallest detail in advance, having thought through the structure of the program, its possible extensions, etc. etc. MZ> How do you imagine configurability, say from 1 to 4 MZ> file panels? By the way, why only until 4? :) At the moment I can’t imagine how it will look visually, however There's nothing particularly complicated about it, at least in terms of code. MZ> Banality: two-panel command;)There were ideas, but these ideas, again, need to be really “sucked down” to the smallest detail, but along the way, as far as I remember, the trick was to provide support 1 (2) screws (to taste), naturally through open (closed) ports. And also present partitions, partitions, disks in the form of subdirectories. At the same time I had to be an overlay structure, at least in relation to applications. MZ> There is a lot in the source code, but everything is foreign - I can’t dispose of it. MZ> There are not enough of our own. I'm not a coder. I know how to dig, push and paint. Digging - potatoes, pushing - a train, painting - paint? :) And 42 simovala? Developments in the sense of graphic, or ideas, possible plans for the implementation of something or ? Writing from scratch is a thankless job; you need printing procedures, drivers, etc. You can write everything yourself, but it’s very frustrating, although of course if I don’t find anything, then you can either write everything yourself, which sucks, or kick Blade, which confusing, but real. OD>> and for the reason, hmm reason Mr. Blade (yes, yes, which does OD>> DME 2.00 is already a year old) MZ> By the way, very good software. Thanks autopy. No offense to Blade, but DME 2.00 (it’s also like DME 2000) really good software, and all these 1.23 - 1.24, in any caseCompared to 2.00 - handicrafts. I proceed from what I saw in very not even raw, but very wet in DME 2.00. Blades where 2.00, good help 2 meter ones to write, it’s time to release them. MZ> Sorry. MZ> Zx-bytes could have remained on the screw, what if?.. ;) The screw was formatted in 3-4 steps. MZ> Where did Scorpus go? Blades, where is my GMH? You're probably sitting in your hut and messing around with MOA TM Version Gxxxx which is flashed in my GMH? :) OD>> 2. a certain number of sources (so that there is something OD>> push off) MZ> "Your shirt is closer to the body" ;) Now I’m completely naked as a falcon (not Boris :)), there are no starting points. OD>> 3. person (real, who would kick me periodically) MZ> MAS Well, you guys decide among yourselves who will kick who, shake the issue down :) OD>> 4. people (like-minded people - coders - system engineers - united OD>> with one idea) MZ> CODE.ZX You make me smile. For normal work on one project, echo is not suitable, there is no efficiency, You need close communication, telephone, meetings, and undoubtedly personal acquaintance. OD>> 5. non-possessive attitude of the Spectrum public OD>> (as it was during that period of time when I wrote my hddcommander) MZ> Difficult. This is one of two things. MZ> Either you like software and you do almost everything yourself. I don’t want to pull anything alone, I’ve already pulled it. Only in company. MZ> Or money. :) MZ> Recognition only posthumously. So tomorrow we will attempt suicide :) MZ> During life, the main criterion is silence - that means everything is ok... If there is silence while writing, then I can still accept it, but if there is silence after exit, the question immediately arises, for whom everything was done. Is it necessary to continue bother? MZ> You have to live with Softina, otherwise it sucks. Living on software alone, you can turn into a hermit. Although of course I love you I understand and in principle agree with you. WBR, Light from DCG aka Oleg Dokuki