Number of file panels
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From Oleg Dokukin → To Mihail Zharov 27 August 2000
Hello Mikhail!
11 Oct 00 05:37, Mihail Zharov -> Sergey Selev:
Well, what should I say to you about this?
4 panels is too much, taking into account also the 5th information panel
panel - you get too much information, your eyes hurt.
3 panels is a perversion.
1-panel shells are morally outdated, and in general they are not convenient.
2 panels are just right.
But the most useful thing is the configurable number of panels :) although this may not be the case
joke.
WBR, Light from DCG aka Oleg Dokuki
From Oleg Dokukin → To Mihail Zharov 27 August 2000
Hello Mikhail!
13 Oct 00 06:58, Mihail Zharov -> Oleg Dokukin:
OD>> Well, what should I say about this.
MZ> Truth.
True, hmm, only for money :)
OD>> 3 panels are a perversion.
MZ> Not more than about a year ago you stated the opposite...
If you are talking about 3 panels, then I always thought that this was a perversion.
If about 4, well what can I say, I just grew up a little, besides the army,
you understand, your outlook on life changes radically :)
OD>> 1-panel shells are morally outdated, but in general
OD>> are not convenient in principle.
but at least you agree with this?
OD>> 2 panels are just right.
MZ> And I thought that I would sooner turn gray than you would understand this. ;)
didn't sit? , look, everything is still ahead (I’m just kidding so stupidly)
MZ> Remember our debates about the “golden mean”.
I repent, I am a fool, I am a sinner, I undertake to correct myself, I undertake to carry out the “correction”
report back :)
OD>> But the most useful thing is the configurable number of panels :) although
OD>> maybe this is not a joke.
MZ> Yes, just a joke. Since the resolution is the same... it means either
MZ> empty space, or we lose information content.Or maybe it’s not a joke, the whole point is not in the resolution, but in the brains of the system engineer, and in
common sense of the user!
MZ> You can still click fonts, but it’s not funny anymore.
That's for sure.
MZ> ps. 1. address /8.53 killing?
Yes unfortunately :(
MZ> 2. I heard a rumor about a new software - when will it be?
Well, what did I once again promise to someone while drunk? even to me
interesting :) No seriously, when I’m drunk, I sometimes give out such projects that I immediately
but in sobriety, I want to sit down and write them. Tell me, maybe I’ll take it.
MZ> 3. I have a crowd of developments for a 64-character service
MZ> if you are interested in creation, then go to the soap.
I'm specifically interested in everything, especially the sources for sm and storm.
MZ> 4. at one time you promised source codes - is this still possible?
MZ> (they won’t leave me)
Unreal, not because of my pathological greed, but because of, hmm
reason Mr. Blade (yes, who has been making DME 2.00 for a year now) he told me
radish, what he said when I asked him if it could be transferred in the form of an image
Spekov screw, on a PC, he said, like suck your fingers Oleg, you can’t do anything, I
took note, killed everything from Spekov, and a week after that, he told mesays something like “I found a way to actually transfer the image to a PC.” Guess what
setup?. Eh Blades, with your actions you set up the entire Spekrymsky
The public is under attack! You are a radish.
In short, the sources are ok :(
But in fact, not all is lost, now I’m not writing anything under the spec
the reason is that I have three 40, and shalaev on it goes 3 times slower than
real spec, I'm going to buy myself here P1 - 166-233 after which, at
If I have a certain base (a certain number of sources), I will write for the spec.
So for this it is necessary,
1. I should buy a normal computer. (personal problem)
2. a certain number of sources (to have something to build on)
3. person (real, who would kick me from time to time)
4. people (like-minded people - coders - systems engineers - united by one idea)
5. non-professional attitude of the Spectrum public (as it was at that time
the period of time when I wrote my hddcommander)
WBR, Light from DCG aka Oleg Dokuki
From Oleg Dokukin → To Mihail Zharov 28 August 2000
Hello Mikhail!
14 Oct 00 22:11, Mihail Zharov -> Oleg Dokukin:
MZ> Yes, views are changing, and needs are growing... ;)
Hmm, you definitely noticed that about the needs...
MZ> Yes. Of course.
A start has been made :)
MZ> I won’t turn gray anymore, because I realized that it’s better not to argue, but to get things done.
and how are things going (pun, gentlemen)?
MZ> 0.5, no 0.7, nope 1.0K of writing cool code every day.
MZ> On weekends you can relax with sprites, music and strawberries.
MZ> ;)))
No, drawing and composing music is not for me, I’m a fool at this.
And on the topic of the code - as they say in our prosecutor's office: "without an investigation plan - no
step" i.e. If you write anything, then only after thinking everything over to the smallest detail in advance,
having thought through the structure of the program, its possible extensions, etc. etc.
MZ> How do you imagine configurability, say from 1 to 4
MZ> file panels?
By the way, why only until 4? :)
At the moment I can’t imagine how it will look visually, however
There's nothing particularly complicated about it, at least in terms of code.
MZ> Banality: two-panel command;)There were ideas, but these ideas, again, need to be really “sucked down” to the smallest detail,
but along the way, as far as I remember, the trick was to provide support
1 (2) screws (to taste), naturally through open (closed) ports. And also
present partitions, partitions, disks in the form of subdirectories. At the same time I had to
be an overlay structure, at least in relation to applications.
MZ> There is a lot in the source code, but everything is foreign - I can’t dispose of it.
MZ> There are not enough of our own. I'm not a coder. I know how to dig, push and paint.
Digging - potatoes, pushing - a train, painting - paint? :)
And 42 simovala?
Developments in the sense of graphic, or ideas, possible plans for the implementation of something
or ?
Writing from scratch is a thankless job; you need printing procedures, drivers, etc.
You can write everything yourself, but it’s very frustrating, although of course if I don’t find anything,
then you can either write everything yourself, which sucks, or kick Blade, which
confusing, but real.
OD>> and for the reason, hmm reason Mr. Blade (yes, yes, which does
OD>> DME 2.00 is already a year old)
MZ> By the way, very good software. Thanks autopy.
No offense to Blade, but DME 2.00 (it’s also like DME 2000)
really good software, and all these 1.23 - 1.24, in any caseCompared to 2.00 - handicrafts. I proceed from what I saw in very
not even raw, but very wet in DME 2.00. Blades where 2.00, good help 2
meter ones to write, it’s time to release them.
MZ> Sorry.
MZ> Zx-bytes could have remained on the screw, what if?.. ;)
The screw was formatted in 3-4 steps.
MZ> Where did Scorpus go?
Blades, where is my GMH? You're probably sitting in your hut and messing around with MOA TM
Version Gxxxx which is flashed in my GMH? :)
OD>> 2. a certain number of sources (so that there is something
OD>> push off)
MZ> "Your shirt is closer to the body" ;)
Now I’m completely naked as a falcon (not Boris :)), there are no starting points.
OD>> 3. person (real, who would kick me periodically)
MZ> MAS
Well, you guys decide among yourselves who will kick who, shake the issue down :)
OD>> 4. people (like-minded people - coders - system engineers - united
OD>> with one idea)
MZ> CODE.ZX
You make me smile.
For normal work on one project, echo is not suitable, there is no efficiency,
You need close communication, telephone, meetings, and undoubtedly personal acquaintance. OD>> 5. non-possessive attitude of the Spectrum public
OD>> (as it was during that period of time when I wrote my hddcommander)
MZ> Difficult. This is one of two things.
MZ> Either you like software and you do almost everything yourself.
I don’t want to pull anything alone, I’ve already pulled it. Only in company.
MZ> Or money.
:)
MZ> Recognition only posthumously.
So tomorrow we will attempt suicide :)
MZ> During life, the main criterion is silence - that means everything is ok...
If there is silence while writing, then I can still accept it, but if there is silence after
exit, the question immediately arises, for whom everything was done. Is it necessary to continue
bother?
MZ> You have to live with Softina, otherwise it sucks.
Living on software alone, you can turn into a hermit. Although of course I love you
I understand and in principle agree with you.
WBR, Light from DCG aka Oleg Dokuki