From
Sergey Selev
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To
All
30 October 2000
Hey, All, you know, I'm really OK.
Previously, my attitude towards the subject was quite good. But after today
day it changed sharply for the worse.
I needed to extract messages in RU.ANEKDOT and RU.ANECDOT from PKT files and
saving as files would seem to be a completely elementary task... But that’s not the case
it was.
I unzip the files on B: and after them I write down a tosser with the setup:
addr
2:462/167.62
links
500:322/62 0ap
areas
RU.ANEKDOT
RU.ANECDOT
On A: I have about half a disk of free space.
I start the tosser, after a while the head of drive A: starts running
between 0 and presumably track 162 or 166, that is, the tosser on drive B:
processed at most 500 sectors of information, and on A: already filled 1300!
The same thing happened again on a blank disk... In general, it’s time to start AToss again
rewrite, by the way, is a good method for very buggy programs.
And now I would like to make a couple of suggestions for wrapping
Lara.
1) You need to insert the option to mark all messages. Let's say in my RU.ANEKDOT
300 messages and the cursor is on the last one. You have to drive 300 lines one at a time
there and then back. Hmmm, it's quite a tedious task.
2) You need the option to go to a specific message by its number.
3) When scrolling through the list of files and messages, you need to do pgup and pgdn.
4) For recorded files, the end of line marker must be #0d, #0a, otherwise afterAfter reading such files with Modern Word, he plunges into a two-minute mediation,
related to correction
incorrect end-of-line marker.
5) Support for the three-character extension should be mandatory.
6) It is necessary to fix a glitch with editing messages, which have 64 characters in
line. And also scroll left/right so that I don’t have to do anything
guessing what is shown in the pictures from
echoes with pseudographics.
7) It would be nice to speed up editing long messages.
8) It would be nice to do it like in golded: the beginning and ending of the letter are saved. This
all sorts of things like: PID, MSGID, SEEN-BY, PATH...
9) It is necessary to remove the glitch: freezing after loading depending on the location of the stars.
10) Before writing/reading files, you need to ask where to do this from, and not stupidly
display the pkt directory of the disk. If the message is recorded, then a request is made, under
what name and extension to write down.
Surely a number of improvements can be continued.
I kindly ask the author of these programs to take into account my suggestions, because without
Some useful things the work resembles sadomasochism. I think in a week
this can all be done as there is not much work involved.
Well, till next time...
██▓▓▓▒▒▒░░░ Sergey aka Cyber from Cobra Software.
█▓▓▓▒▒▒░░░ 500:322/62 2:462/167.62
From
Evgeny Goljakov
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To
Sergey Selev
12 November 2000
Hello Sergey.
Sat 11 Nov 00 Sergey Selev -> Kirill Frolov:
SS>>> 5) There should be support for the three-character extension
SS>>> mandatory.
KF>> From?
SS> You do not want to allow files with the .ZIP extension.
Lara doesn't understand 3 letters - and thank God, because the second and
third, they are usually not letters, which can be perceived
as a left control code in FTN networks.
launch the UUE extractor and in the suggested subj'e letter,
for example, for a zip, add 'IP', then there is no need to hobbett
and unpack correctly.
And basic - just want ()() ;))))
Thank you for your attention.
From
Felix Knyazev
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To
Kirill Frolov
22 November 2000
Greetings, Kirill!
[Tuesday 21 November 2000] at [11:55:02] Kirill Frolov wrote a letter to
Vladimir Klymus.
They discussed the topic "FTN software for ZX". Let's continue what we started...
[skip]
VK>> It’s so difficult to understand that hobeta makes it possible to transmit
VK>> and
VK>> restore tr-dos files without any problems
VK>> (disappearance
VK>> start addresses, data loss, idiocy)?
KF> Have you seen ZXZIP? Some smart people even like him
KF> turns out to be khobeta
KF> you want.
I will publicly express my “XO” on this matter:
When I receive a file (from the network, for example. I’m still REAL, oddly enough
sounds.), then the first thing I look at is its expansion. It depends on what it is
for the file and the sequence of my further actions to process this
file. If I see *.$Z, everything is _immediately_ clear and understandable to me - this is ZXZIP, i.e.
DeHobeta -> ZXUNZIP. Hooray! Everything is as simple as snow in winter! Saves both time and
nerve cells (see below), which are not known to regenerate. Also
Everything is clear and understandable to me when I see *.zip (in small letters!) - this is a PKZIP archive.
And then something like *.ZIP (in capital letters) falls down, or even worse -*.Z (*.z). What is this???!!! :-E After all, Speck is now actively used
PKZIP archives! Then the pandemonium begins. Look at the beginning of the file
(_additionally_ loading some viewer thread): aha! the first two bytes of "PK" are
PKZIP archive. It _without_problems_ (due to incomplete file extension, checking
on a PKZIP archive is made according to the internal structure of the file) is set
spekkovsiy PKUNZIP (praise to the authors!). OK, we've got that sorted out.
There is only one thing left: under *.ZIP there is a ZXZIP archive (there were exceptions. This
it turned out to be a WANTED ZXZIP archive! i.e. again at the "request" of ZXUNZIP
Additionally, some kind of viewer is loaded. Creepy...). What about the *.Z extensions?
(*.z, *.ZiP, *.ziP, etc.) for a ZXZIP archive?! Here
_specific_hemorrhoids_ begin - you need to go to the disc doctor (again additional
loading!) add this 'Z' (+ variations see above) to 'ZIP'
From
Denis Ognewsky
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To
Kirill Frolov
22 November 2000
Glad to see you Kirill!
Once, namely 21 Nov 00 Kirill Frolov wrote to Vladimir Klymus:
KF> Have you seen ZXZIP? Some smart guys even like him, it turns out he's crazy
KF> in the hob.
and they do it right. there are two reasons: 1) some emulators only understand
hobetu and trd. therefore, such files have to be shoved into
trd as a separate program. 2) a file with a ZIP extension is regarded by me as
PKZIP, and files with the extension $Z as ZXZIP.
WBR, EmP^A1C
From
Kirill Frolov
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To
All
22 November 2000
*** Answering a msg posted in area X.BAD (Glitches live here).
This is intended for all senders of letters with the yue code.
Press RESET immediately, Felix!
22 Nov 00 04:35, Felix Knyazev wrote to Kirill Frolov:
FK> And then something like *.ZIP (in capital letters) or that falls down
FK> worse - *.Z (*.z). What is this???!!! :-E After all, on Speck now
[...] skip.
First we open it up, then we look at what’s inside - if it’s PK then we set it up
pkunzip, if the file name, then put the ZIP extension and run zxunzip. A if
some smart guy wanted this file, then the pandemonium begins: we need to find
dehobeta, find the second piece from the file (it will be cut), among the ten
such pieces (all with the same name) select the one you need and use it. And so
ten times in a row. And then it turns out that inside this zxzip all the files are once again
wanted (why???).
FK> People, let's save our time and nerve cells when working on
FK> Specke!!!
FK> ZXZIP - *.$Z
FK> PKZIP - *.zip (small letters!)
FK> Naturally, if you _locally_ transfer ZXZIP archives with the same
FK> Melon, then you can (need) not want to, if there is between you FK> appropriate arrangement.
All your reasoning can be reduced to the opposite: let's save time
and nerve cells and /never/ want to use zxzip and text files!
ZXZIP - *.Z *.ZXZ *.ZIP (the latter option is preferred)
PKZIP - *.zip
Naturally, if you like sex with a computer, then you can locally
want to want everything...
Among other things, for _not_ using the hobeta you can be punished
one argument more - the remains of long zxzip archives are not cut into pieces
17 bytes each.
In general, it’s time to switch to using more other archivers.
Well, at least hrip.
*Crossposted in ZXNET.UUE
From
Eugene Stahov
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To
Vladimir Klymus
29 November 2000
Hello, Vladimir.
25 Oct 00 22:20, you wrote to Kirill Frolov:
VK> Stop raving, okay? And tell me which one will take more than one floppy disk
VK> and why is it needed on Spec.
Don’t you remember - recently Crow No. 2 flew by - thanks to the one who had enough
mind cutting the zip before tying.
Now imagine:
1. We take a treadmill that is packed to capacity, practically unzipable (in the treadmill so
everything is reaped.
2.zip (~640KB)
3.yyuchim (>900 kb, >100 sections)
4.bundles will total >640 kb.
(5. if sent by netmail, then according to FTN standards the netmail is sent unpackaged,
i.e. more than 900 kilos fly away)
result:
The evil emulator sent the realist something he won't understand :(
And in general, it is necessary to develop the concept of attachments and files in ZxNet.
Well, it's time to wrap things up. I went to code. Eugene