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Max Kuleshov
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7 March 2006
Hello caro
Thank you. I'll try TELEDISK, although I'll have to rearrange the drive, otherwise
the machine that has 5.25" windows is not installed...
And extra images would be useful. My email: kuleshov(a)org.vrn.ru
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Roman Mindlin
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7 March 2006
Hello, maximk
max> I'm interested in the pro version of CP/M. I found only some files on the Internet
max> BOOT.RAR (inside the image in FDI format) and cpm.zip (inside the image in
max> UDI format).
max>
max> I have questions.
max> 1) What version of the pro is this CP/M for? Or does it work for anyone?
max> 2) A strange disk format is obtained, judging by these images:
max> 79 tracks, 2 sides, 6 sectors per track, 1024 bytes per sector.
max> My 5.25 floppy drive on my PC does not want to format a floppy disk in this
max> format. For formatting I use fdutils under Linux.
max>
max> It seemed to me that CP/M used a format of 5 sectors per track...
I have a large collection of SP-M software for Pros on floppy disks (Pencraft
collection), but I haven’t watched it yet. Send me a private message and we'll see together.
From
Kamil Karimov
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7 March 2006
Hello, maximk
max> TELEDISK I'll try, although I'll have to rearrange the drive, otherwise
max> the machine on which 5.25" windows is not installed...
The safest way to work with it is under DOS.
From
Kamil Karimov
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7 March 2006
Hello, maximk
max> I'm interested in the pro version of CP/M.
max> ...
max> 1) What version of the pro is this CP/M for? Or does it work for anyone?
Works on any Pro!
max> 2) A strange disk format is obtained, judging by these images:
max> 79 tracks, 2 sides, 6 sectors per track, 1024 bytes per sector.
Disc format: 80 tracks/5 sectors of 1024 bytes/2 sides
Total total disk volume is 800 kb.
On IBM, the most convenient way to read records of disk images is to use the program
TELEDISK.
If necessary, I can send several disk images under e-mail
CP/M for Pros.
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Max Kuleshov
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7 March 2006
Hello, All
I'm interested in the pro version of CP/M. I found only some BOOT.RAR files on the Internet
(inside the image in FDI format) and cpm.zip (inside the image in UDI format).
I have questions.
1) Which pro version is this CP/M for? Or does it work for anyone?
2) A strange disc format is obtained, judging by these images: 79 tracks,
2 sides, 6 sectors per track, 1024 bytes per sector. My 5.25 floppy drive on PC
does not want to format the floppy disk in this format. For formatting
I use fdutils on Linux.
It seemed to me that CP/M used a format of 5 sectors per track...
From
Max Kuleshov
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10 March 2006
Hello, kgbplus
Somehow the stone flower doesn't come out...
teledisk does not want to restore the floppy disk. Maybe because I boot DOS from a CD
with floppy emulation... But teledisk accesses the disk, and directly to head=0 cyl=0
freezes and reports an error.
I also took a closer look at what’s so funny about this floppy disk, what’s the usual
It doesn't work by transferring or formatting. It turns out that on head=0 cyl=0 the 5th
according to the account, the sector is designated number 9. And this was done so that the floppy disk remains
autoloading under TR-DOS... I tried to recreate it under Linux using
shamanic manipulations with setfdprm, superformat, etc. There are shifts :) Floppy disk
it seems to start loading, the computer switches to advanced graphics and freezes
on a blank screen... Maybe I recreated it crookedly :)
From
Kamil Karimov
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10 March 2006
Hello, maximk
max> teledisk does not want to restore the floppy disk. Maybe because I'm loading
max> DOS from a CD with floppy emulation... But teledisk accesses the disk, and
max> directly on head=0 cyl=0 freezes and reports an error.
Apparently teledisk works with the flop controller at the hardware level,
That's why I recommend working under pure DOS.
By the way, the tdconfig utility (24 kbytes) is included with telefisk, allowing
configure it for specific hardware.
max> ... It turns out that on head=0 cyl=0 the 5th sector is indicated
max> number 9. This was done so that the floppy disk remains autoloadable
max> for TR-DOS...
This is exactly the case and only for the first track and the zero side.
Unlike IS-DOS, by the way, in which all fifth sectors are numbered 9.
From
Max Kuleshov
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10 March 2006
Hello caro
Yes, there’s something else I can’t figure out: this boot sector, why is it loading?
tr-dos? After all, on track zero, TR-DOS does not use sectors numbered > 8.
And most importantly, at what address it is located and from what address it is launched
the program recorded in it?
Judging by the content, then not from the beginning, because at offset 0 there is LDIR
moving code from #100 to #8000. But this is the case if it is launched as
.COM file.
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Max Kuleshov
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10 March 2006
Hello, Maksagor
> If you count from one...
Oh, damn, I forgot about that... Exactly. Thank you. Next, I think I’ll figure it out
:)
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Timonin Maxim Anatolievich
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10 March 2006
Hello, maximk
max> Yes, there’s something else I can’t figure out: this boot sector, it
max> why is it loaded by tr-dos? After all, on the zero track TR-DOS is not
max> uses sectors numbered > 8. And most importantly, at what address
max> is located and from what address is the program written in it launched?
max>
max> Judging by the content, then not from the beginning, because the offset is 0
max> LDIR moving code from #100 to #8000. But this is in case he
max> runs as a .COM file.
If you count from one, then sectors 1-8 on track zero are a directory, and
sector 9 - system. It contains information about the type of floppy disk, the number of files
and free space. This is the sector TR-DOS ALWAYS reads before starting
work with a floppy disk, and thanks to manipulations with it, you can organize autostart
(only this sector then must be larger than 256 bytes, otherwise nothing
will come out). The remaining sectors, 10-16, are really not used.
From
Doronetty
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10 March 2006
Hello, maximk
Let's collect and place CP/M software under Profi - otherwise on the network in addition to 18
There are no discs on Power of Sound! :)
From
Alekseenko Alexey
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11 March 2006
Hello Doronetty
I remember at the pros there were 3 demos under CP/M, one of them was MADNES REMIX.
Unfortunately, I threw away all the disks with these programs.
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Zuev Sergey
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13 March 2006
Hello, kgbplus
kgb> Here is the promised list of software:
kgb>
kgb> All floppy disks are signed "CP/M for PROFI". I didn't watch them, not even
kgb> I know if they are readable. Teledisk read at least the first 4 floppy disks
kgb> calmly.
Will there be disk images? And then the third professional has been lying around here for 13 years, and to him
only 5 floppy disks...
From
Doronetty
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13 March 2006
Hello megabyte
I also read some of this software with Teledisk. But only in my opinion
Some images didn’t turn out that way - not all of them work. For example Movie
After launch, Demo displays an “illegal copy” and crashes, although the image was taken from
the most legal one :)
And let's find some place where all these Pro-discs will be laid out
possible. Otherwise the Pro was somehow left behind...
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Roman Mindlin
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13 March 2006
Hello megabyte
There will be images, but most likely next weekend.
From
Doronetty
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15 March 2006
Hello, kgbplus
I'm looking forward to it :) Another question: can anyone remove the protection from them? Otherwise
As I already wrote, some people just don’t want to work!
From
ice'di^triumph
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16 March 2006
Hello Doronetty
Actually, here is my collection of software for cp/m: :v2_biggr:
1. World of Death (action game)
2. English-Russian translator
3. Russian-English translator
4. LEXPRINT
5. SUPER MON 1,2,3
6. TELEPHONE REGISTER
7. TRANSLATOR v3.0
8. CP/M v3.40 + DOS NAVIGATOR
9. JAZZ (disk shell, HDD only)
10. GRAND GROIX GFX EDITOR
11. SYNTH MASTER MUSIC EDITOR (for COVOX, + music)
12. TERMINAL + LZH (for modem)
13. Notebook + Diary
14. KING'S VALLEY GAME
15. MORTAL KOMBAT-3 (demo version, 1mb memory required)
16. Games: BOMBER, TON, KING, BOMBA, PING, CYBERNOID, STAKAN, NEBULUS, EXOLON.
+ MICROSOFT BASIC v5.20
17. CONCURRENT BIOS v4.30_fast
256PCX VIEWER
FOREVER 1.2
+ others...
18. Games: SOLITAIR, XONIX, TYPE
19. GAMEZ: BOJ, CHESS, BOWLING, FOT, BRUN, HORSE, CATCHUM, LADDER, MARS,
MINA, MONKEY, XONIX, TIRUS, SC
20. TURBO PASCAL
21. ASSEMBLER FOR PROFI
LIST_Z80
MICROSOFT BASIC_80
+ others
22. WRITE SYSTEM 1.2
TEXT GRAPHICS PRINT UTILITY
PRINT TEXT v2.2
REVISE_TEXT CONVERTER
23. THELP (programming tutorial in PROFI ASSEMBLER)
24. COPY K v5.30
PSW SOFT
SUPER CALC - 2
HDD FORMATTER
SYNTH MASTER
DOS v5.30 + HOPCOM
SPEED DOS
25. MOVIE MUSIC DEMONSTRATION
FIRST MUSIC DEMONSTRATION
26. ZX-PRINT
(Program for printing Spectrum screens from CP/M!)+2 disks with the best screenshots taken from various games, magazines,
demonstrations, etc.
27. Various utilities for working in CP/M
28. PROFI DOS v4.0
29. SYNTH MASTER + MUSIC
FOR PROFI DOS v4.0
30. PLAYWAVE (AY, COVOX)
FOR PROFI DOS v4.0
31. WAV FILE the size of the entire disk for PLAYWAVE
FOR PROFI DOS v4.0
32. THELP
TRK
WINDOWS
FOR PROFI DOS v4.0
33. TEACHER
SUPER CALCULATOR - 2
V2
FOR PROFI DOS v4.0
34. MOVIE MUSIC DEMONSTRATON
FOR PROFI DOS v4.0
35. GAMEZ FOR PROFI DOS v4.0:
SINGLE WARRIOR
SPACE COMMANDO
36. GAMEZ FOR PROFI DOS v4.0:
DURANT COLOR LINES
MOLE PEEP SHOW_REMIX
PINGVIN WERT
MINNER (FOR WINDOWS)
BREAK THRU (FOR WINDOWS)
37. GAMEZ FOR PROFI DOS v4.0:
LODE RUNNER
MACH 3_demo version
CAD
COLUMNS
PITON
SOKOBAN
SUPER MINER
UDAW
38. GAMEZ FOR PROFI DOS v4.0:
DEATH ZONE
XYZON
ERIC AND THE FLOATERS
STOP THE EXPRESS
COLOR BALL
FIRE RESCUE
NINJA KAGE
PAC-MAN
39. GAMEZ FOR PROFI DOS v4.0:
SOLITAIR 15
ARCANOID 21
BUTERFLY CHATKA
CRAPS KOLOBOK
LABIRINT LINES
MINER WATER FALL
XONIX
PROFESSIONAL TENNIS
40. Music editor ADJ v1.2
Windows
41. Music modules for ADJ:
KUTU REGGAE
MOVE RRTEWWMY SOLARD
RAIN RIPDOC
SPEED LEMON
42. Music modules for ADJ:
AFACE BATMAN
JUSTICE AXEL
PUSIC BEAT
AT DNS
43. GAMES:
BATTLE MODIO
BLUDISCO PENTAS
CHASER REVERSI
GOLD ROCKET
GOMOKU BIGPRGAME
GRPING JAZZU
MAT KEGLI
FA MBASIC + GAMES
+ there was something else, in general there were 50 disks.
From
Doronetty
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16 March 2006
Hello, ice'di^triumph
Hyper!!! :)
And in what form is it - disks or images? Send by mail or post
can you do it somewhere?
From
ice'di^triumph
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17 March 2006
Hello Doronetty
Software on 5.25' floppy disks. Tomorrow I'll take the disk drive (mine is broken...) and start
distill into images.
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Doronetty
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17 March 2006
Hello, ice'di^triumph
Your homeland will not forget you!!! :)
I only advise you to immediately check these images for functionality in the emulator
(or take some image and transfer it back to disk and look at it in real life)
- otherwise I also have a lot of images, but not everyone wants to work - defense
she swears, but somehow I don’t know how to break her :(
From
Alexander Makhov
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5 January 2007
Hello Doronetty
Maybe a kind person will come along and post images of CP/M disks. Otherwise there is a Profik, and
There are no disks for CP/M. And I really want to. :smile: