winnt&trdos

Hello, All! Tell me, are there people here who can write under winnt (2k/xp)? Would you write copier trd/hobeta/scl from/to trdos disks, otherwise it’s always such a hassle somewhere transfer that just at least shoot. Or has there been one for a long time and I just haven’t seen it? *Crossposted in 675.CHAT With best wishes, Vladimir.

Hello, Vladimir! 28 Aug 04 17:51, Vladimir Larkov -> All: VL> Tell me, are there people here who can write under winnt (2k/xp)? Yes. VL> They should write a copier trd/hobeta/scl from/to trdos disks, otherwise it will take forever It's not that simple. You can't go straight to the flop. Just write your own driver ports - too, because they will fight on the flop. And dear the flop driver should, in principle, support the operation with any non-standard sectors, and WinAPI has the corresponding arguments of the functions, but in itself this piece of code is blocked (error?) - it accepts custom argument but then parses the real one format and if it is not equal to MSDOS, it exits by error. Basically, there is an alternative flop driver, but it can work only on English Windows 2000 without any servicepacks. Therefore, writing a program for this matter is not effective. You need to write your own normal flop driver. In general, Windows and 98 have a lot of mysteries in their flop drivers. For example, there are absolutely unnecessary delays. One acquaintance I removed them and it worked much faster. VL> it’s such a hassle to move something somewhere that you just have to shoot yourself. Are you ready to pay for a copier? Or is it easier for you to transfer it using the available means? Best regards, Evgeniy.

Press RESET immediately, Vladimir Larkov! On Sat, 28 Aug 04 16:51:20 +0400, Vladimir Larkov wrote: VL> Tell me, are there people here who can write under winnt (2k/xp)? Would you write VL> copier trd/hobeta/scl from/to trdos disks, otherwise there’s always such a mess VL> move it somewhere, just shoot yourself. The fact is that it is simply impossible to write such a copier. Windows does not natively support the Spectrum disk format. Driver floppy disk does not have a built-in "media type" that allows reading, writing and formatting a disk in Spectrum format. [is it possible that I'm wrong? ] There is a way out of this situation - driver modification, with adding an additional format to the list, and modifying functions disk recognition in the driver. Write a copier task yourself trivial. As for the driver: http://alter.org.ua/soft/win/floppy/index.php?lang=ru This is not a complete solution for this case, it is just a reference to source texts of the driver for Windows NT, which can be modified as above. I have neither time, at the moment, nor strength, nor, most importantly, desire do this. I can only help in some particulars, answer to answer any questions and provide the necessary documentation and tools (only for St. Petersburg residents).

Hello Kirill! 29 Aug 04 20:16, Kirill Frolov -> Vladimir Larkov: KF> http://alter.org.ua/soft/win/floppy/index.php?lang=ru This is not finished KF> solution for this case, this is just a link to the source code of the driver KF> for Windows NT, which can be modified by the above KF> way. However, the ready-made driver does not work at all. I tried to install it 2 years ago. Probably the fact is that it either runs on English Windows, or the service pack is interfering with it. Best regards, Evgeniy.

Hello Eugene! Sun 29-Aug-2004 12:27, you (500:95/468.468@ZXNet) wrote a letter to me: VL>> They should write a copier trd/hobeta/scl from/to trdos disks, otherwise it will take forever EP> It's not that simple. EP> You cannot go directly to the flop. Just write your own driver EP> ports - too, because they will fight on the flop. But if, say, you turn off the flop in Beavis, won’t it make you feel better? It's just me I remembered that the hobeta, when cut in half, takes a terribly long time to loosen the disk, but if comment on the native half-and-half flop driver, then it just flies. VL>> it’s such a hassle to move something somewhere that you just have to shoot yourself. EP> Are you ready to pay for a copier? It depends how much. And how long will it last (until the first next service pack or until the death of this branch of Windows). EP> Or is it easier for you to transfer using the available means? I don't like reboots. Maybe the movie is slowing down at this moment or something else long. And then it’s at home, if you go somewhere (like on tsts04), then who knows, what is there (and there is one xp and trashy flops). With best wishes, Vladimir.

Press RESET immediately, Vladimir Larkov! On Sat, 11 Sep 04 19:15:40 +0400, Vladimir Larkov wrote: EP>> Or is it easier for you to transfer using available means? VL> I don’t like reboots. Maybe my movie is getting tight at this moment or else VL> something long. And then it’s at home, if you go somewhere (like on tsts04), then figs VL> knows what is there (and there is one xp and trash flops). The conclusion is that it is not necessary to adapt the PC to Spectrum technology, but move in the opposite direction.

Press RESET immediately, Eugene Palenock! On Sun, 29 Aug 04 11:27:56 +0400, Eugene Palenock wrote: VL>> it’s such a hassle to move something somewhere that you just have to shoot yourself. EP> Are you ready to pay for a copier? Let's look at things realistically. Pay for the opportunity to read and write Spectrum discs for Windows, from your own pocket, no one here is ready, and many, I think, cannot. In individual There is no way this problem can be solved. On the other hand, the problem is quite urgent - the most the common operating system basically does not allow you to work with Spectrum disks. I think this problem cannot but worry a fairly large number of people one way or another included in Spectrum community, and requires solutions *in* *any* *case*. I propose to approach from the other side - what and who can offer and for what money? Let's say I'm evaluating a proposed job: modifying or creating a new floppy disk driver, writing "console" versions of programs for reading, writing and formatting disks (implies work, including, with disks other than TR-DOS format, for example iS-DOS, CP/M, including unknown format), as well as the creation of a library, a software interface that allows use the specified capabilities from other programs, for example,emulator or "plug in" modules for FAR - I appreciate this work, Let's say $200. This amount includes the creation of software, project documentation, for the programmer, and documentation user, program support for some time. Copyright, in its entirety, belongs to the public, or everyone from the group of persons financing the development, which in the future will in no way does not interfere with the further development of the program. How far did I miss? and in which direction? I think that if there are at least 20 people who are ready pay 500 rubles on the specified conditions, I think this is realistic. Provided that the issue of payment is resolved in case of successful completion of the project and a refund in case of failure. How is it to carry out everything practically, neither legally nor in any other way, I have not yet I can't imagine. This is probably the most difficult thing. Someone here must take risks. I’m probably ready, I’m still hesitating, to pay that amount for this. Not for shareware - pay with the release of each new version of Windows, and for a pig in a poke, I definitely don’t intend to - see the origin.

Press RESET immediately, Vladimir Larkov! On Sat, 11 Sep 04 19:15:40 +0400, Vladimir Larkov wrote: VL>>> They should write a copier trd/hobeta/scl from/to trdos disks, otherwise it will take forever EP>> It's not that simple. EP>> You cannot go directly to the flop. Just write your own driver EP>> ports - too, because they will fight on the flop. VL> And if, say, you disable the flop in Beavis, won't it make things easier? It's just me Why in Beavis, in my opinion it’s easier to /replace/ the standard driver.

Hello, Kirill! Sun 12-Sep-2004 20:59, you (500:812/1.507) wrote a letter to me: VL>>>> They should write a copier trd/hobeta/scl from/to trdos disks, otherwise it will take forever EP>>> It's not that simple. EP>>> You cannot go directly to the flop. Just write your own driver EP>>> ports - too, because they will fight on the flop. VL>> And if, say, you disable the flop in Beavis, won’t it make things easier? It's just me KF> Why in Beavis, in my opinion it’s easier to /replace/ the standard driver. It would be good... With best wishes, Vladimir.