From
Alexander Bondarenko
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All
27 July 2005
*Hello, All!*
Is there anyone here who understands numbers and other notations,
present in the title of the subject?
And in general, which subject (like, which company) is best to buy?
/That’s all, All, you can scroll further.../
From
Roman Alexandrov
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Alexander Bondarenko
28 July 2005
Hello, Alexander!
27 Jul 05, 23:24, Alexander Bondarenko wrote to All on the topic "TFT Monitors":
AB> And in general, what subject (type, what company) is best to buy?
It's best to buy a CRT.
Happy connections. Roman.
From
Kirill Frolov
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Roman Alexandrov
30 July 2005
Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov!
On Thu, 28 Jul 05 07:13:56 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote:
AB>> And in general, what subject (like, what company) is best to buy?
RA> It is best to buy CRT.
There are two serious arguments against:
1. it’s not fashionable now;
2. takes up space on the table.
From
Kirill Frolov
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Alexander Bondarenko
30 July 2005
Press RESET immediately, Alexander Bondarenko!
On Wed, 27 Jul 05 22:24:47 +0400, Alexander Bondarenko wrote:
AB> And in general, what subject (type, what company) is best to buy?
A glimpse of consciousness suggests: we need to look not for “which one is better”, but for which one
worse. And don't buy it.
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Kirill Frolov
30 July 2005
Hello, Kirill!
30 Jul 05, 01:01, Kirill Frolov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "Monitors
TFT":
AB>>> And in general, what subject (like, what company) is best to buy?
RA>> It is best to buy CRT.
KF> There are two serious arguments against:
KF> 1. this is not fashionable now;
This is not an argument at all.
KF> 2. takes up space on the table.
What to do, you have to pay something for quality....
Happy connections. Roman.
From
Eugene Palenock
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To
Alexander Bondarenko
30 July 2005
Hello Alexander!
27 Jul 05 23:24, Alexander Bondarenko -> All:
AB> Is there anyone here who understands numbers and so on
AB> designations present in the title of the subject?
1. You cannot change the resolution on the LCD (or change it so that it is a multiple
maximum). Therefore, probably the best option (for 17") is 1024*768.
(in principle, of course you can change it, but the pixels will be crooked)
2.their color rendering sucks. For working with graphics, the usual range
price list is unsuitable.
AB> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best
AB> buy?
It's better to buy a classic monitor.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From
Alexander Bondarenko
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To
Roman Alexandrov
30 July 2005
*Hello, Roman!*
Catch my ideas about the subject “TFT Monitors”, which I talked about on 28 Jul
2005 your footcloth to comrade. Alexander Bondarenko.
AB>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best
AB>> buy?
RA> It is best to buy CRT.
These CRTs are annoying me at work...
/That’s all, Roman, you can scroll further.../
From
Vladimir Larkov
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To
Eugene Palenock
31 July 2005
Hello Eugene!
Sat 30-Jul-2005 11:23, you (500:95/468.1@ZXNet) wrote a letter to Alexander
Bondarenko:
EP> 1. You cannot change the resolution on the LCD (or change it so that it is a multiple
EP> maximum). Therefore, probably the best option (for 17") is 1024*768.
EP> (in principle, you can change it, of course, but the pixels will be crooked)
1024x768 is native for 15", for 17" - 1280x1024.
With best wishes, Vladimir.
From
Alexander Bondarenko
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To
Roman Alexandrov
1 August 2005
*Hello, Roman!*
Keep something from me on the cart about "Re: TFT Monitors" that I threw
to you a certain Kirill Frolov on 30 Jul 2005.
AB>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best
AB>>> buy?
RA>> It is best to buy CRT.
KF> There are two serious arguments against:
KF> 1. this is not fashionable now;
KF> 2. takes up space on the table.
And it’s also harmful to the eyes.
/That’s all, Roman, you can scroll further.../
From
Alexander Bondarenko
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To
Roman Alexandrov
1 August 2005
*Hello, Roman!*
Catch my ideas about the subject “TFT Monitors”, which I talked about on 30 Jul
2005 your footcloth to comrade. Kirill Frolov.
AB>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best
AB>>>> buy?
RA>>> It is best to buy CRT.
KF>> There are two serious arguments against:
KF>> 1. it’s not fashionable now;
RA> This is not an argument at all.
KF>> 2. takes up space on the table.
RA> What to do, you have to pay something for quality....
Healthy eyes, for example. :)
/That’s all, Roman, you can scroll further.../
From
Alexander Bondarenko
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To
Vladimir Larkov
1 August 2005
*Hello, Vladimir!*
Catch my ideas about the subject “TFT Monitors”, which I talked about on 31 Jul
2005 your footcloth to comrade. Eugene Palenock.
EP>> 1. You cannot change the resolution on the LCD (or change it so that it is
EP>> is a multiple of the maximum). Therefore, probably the best option (for
EP>> 17") - 1024*768. (in principle, of course you can change it, but pixels
EP>> there will be curves)
VL> 1024x768 is native for 15", for 17" - 1280x1024.
Why then is 19" also 1280x1024 native?
/That’s all, Vladimir, you can scroll further.../
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Alexander Bondarenko
2 August 2005
Hello, Alexander!
01 Aug 05, 18:00, Alexander Bondarenko wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic
"TFT Monitors":
AB>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best
AB>>>> buy?
RA>>> It is best to buy CRT.
KF>> There are two serious arguments against:
KF>> 1. it’s not fashionable now;
KF>> 2. takes up space on the table.
AB> And it’s also harmful to the eyes.
And can you explain why CRT is more harmful to the eyes than TFT?
Specifically, resorting to physiological and medical terms and data, rather than
advertising and marketing slogans...
Happy connections. Roman.
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Alexander Bondarenko
2 August 2005
Hello, Alexander!
01 Aug 05, 18:01, Alexander Bondarenko wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic
"TFT Monitors":
AB>>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best
AB>>>>> buy?
RA>>>> It is best to buy CRT.
KF>>> There are two serious arguments against:
KF>>> 1. it’s not fashionable now;
RA>> This is not an argument at all.
KF>>> 2. takes up space on the table.
RA>> What to do, you have to pay something for quality....
AB> Eye health, for example. :)
I've been working with computers since '92, in recent years I've been staring at the screen for up to 10 hours a day.
day, vision - one on both during this time has not changed at all.
Happy connections. Roman.
From
Eugene Palenock
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To
Alexander Bondarenko
3 August 2005
Hello Alexander!
01 Aug 05 18:00, Alexander Bondarenko -> Roman Alexandrov:
RA>>> It is best to buy CRT.
KF>> There are two serious arguments against:
KF>> 1. it’s not fashionable now;
KF>> 2. takes up space on the table.
AB> And it’s also harmful to the eyes.
A good CRT will not tire your eyes.
And people get tired of different office housing complexes very quickly.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From
Valerij Kozhevnikoff
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To
Alexander Bondarenko
4 August 2005
Hello, Alexander!
Mon, 01 Aug 05 at 18:00, Alexander Bondarenko -> Roman Alexandrov:
AB>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best
AB>>>> buy?
RA>>> It is best to buy CRT.
KF>> There are two serious arguments against:
KF>> 1. it’s not fashionable now;
KF>> 2. takes up space on the table.
AB> And it’s also harmful to the eyes.
Gee. I have a CRT Panasonic Panasync/Pro P50 for the past 7 years. Vision - one
as it was and remains. What am I doing wrong?
The monitor is the most ordinary, well, except for the letters /pro in the name and a little higher
prices relative to similar ones (at the time of purchase).
The situation with TFT is worse - there are clearly more bad ones than good ones, due to its novelty
technology. And the good ones are much more expensive than the bad ones, but in terms of quality they are not
very different from CRT.
Color rendition is the most painful issue of TFT; many of the TFT monitors depict
only 256K colors instead of the stated 16M. This is especially noticeable in photographs.
strongly. ALL photographers I know are spitting in unison towards TFT. Why would that be?
PS: a friend has a 21" CRT monitor worth a few kilobucks -
The color rendition is amazing, the picture is clear and nothing gets tired.I don’t argue, there are also multi-inch TFT monitors with more or less acceptable
quality. But their price is such that, well, what for, they save space on the table of these
It’s not worth the money, you can buy a neighboring apartment with the difference.
WBR, Jason.
_/(ZX)/_ /*e-mail: jason2000(not a cat)yandex.ru ICQ: 62235830*/
/np:/ *silence*
From
Kirill Frolov
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To
Alexander Bondarenko
4 August 2005
Press RESET immediately, Alexander Bondarenko!
On Mon, 01 Aug 05 17:00:04 +0400, Alexander Bondarenko wrote:
AB>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best
AB>>>> buy?
RA>>> It is best to buy CRT.
KF>> There are two serious arguments against:
KF>> 1. it’s not fashionable now;
KF>> 2. takes up space on the table.
AB> And it’s also harmful to the eyes.
What exactly? There is no need for fairy tales about radiation and cacti.
From
Kirill Frolov
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To
Roman Alexandrov
4 August 2005
Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov!
On Tue, 02 Aug 05 19:37:32 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote:
KF>>>> 2. takes up space on the table.
RA>>> What to do, you have to pay something for quality....
AB>> Eye health, for example. :)
RA> I've been working with computers since 1992, in recent years I've been staring at the screen up to 10
RA> hours per day, vision - one for both during this time has not changed at all.
I've been looking at the monitor for many years. One eye and a little
another.
From
Alexander Bondarenko
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To
Roman Alexandrov
4 August 2005
*Hello, Roman!*
Catch my ideas about the subject “TFT Monitors”, which I talked about in 02 Aug
2005 your footcloth to comrade. Alexander Bondarenko.
AB>>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best
AB>>>>> buy?
RA>>>> It is best to buy CRT.
KF>>> There are two serious arguments against:
KF>>> 1. it’s not fashionable now;
KF>>> 2. takes up space on the table.
AB>> And it’s also harmful to the eyes.
RA> And can you explain why CRT is more harmful to the eyes than
RA> TFT?
Try it, work for a while after CRT as a TFT specialist - you’ll understand.
RA> Specifically, resorting to physiological and medical terms and
RA> data
Well, I didn’t make it to burden everyone here with trashy Latin. In courses it’s simple,
that high voltage on the tube causes x-ray radiation... I think
This fact alone is already enough.
RA> and not advertising and marketing slogans....
As for advertising and marketing slogans about the “safety” of CRT monitors, I already
I don't believe it. It’s a no-brainer how liquid crystals differ from electron beam
tubes.
/That’s all, Roman, you can scroll further.../
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Alexander Bondarenko
6 August 2005
Hello, Alexander!
04 Aug 05, 12:22, Alexander Bondarenko wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic
"TFT Monitors":
AB>>>>>> And in general, which subject (any type, which company) is best
AB>>>>>> buy?
RA>>>>> It's best to buy a CRT.
KF>>>> There are two serious arguments against:
KF>>>> 1. it’s not fashionable now;
KF>>>> 2. takes up space on the table.
AB>>> And it’s also harmful to the eyes.
RA>> And can you explain why CRT is more harmful to the eyes than
RA>> TFT?
AB> Try it, work for a while after CRT as a TFT specialist - you’ll understand.
1) I tried it - I didn’t understand. A good CRT is clearly better than a cheap TFT
2) I asked for an explanation.
RA>> Specifically, resorting to physiological and medical terms and
RA>> data
AB> Well, I didn’t make it to burden everyone with trashy Latin.
That is I’m incompetent in this matter, but you say...
AB> In courses it is simply that high voltage on the tube causes X-ray
AB> radiation...
Link, pls, where it is written.
RA>> and not advertising and marketing slogans.... AB> And I and the advertising and marketing slogans about the “safety” of CRT monitors
AB> I don’t believe so. It’s a no-brainer how liquid crystals differ from
AB> cathode ray tube.
So explain to me why, in the context under consideration....
Happy connections. Roman.
From
Alexander Bondarenko
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To
Roman Alexandrov
6 August 2005
*Hello, Roman!*
Catch my ideas about the subject “TFT Monitors”, which I talked about in 06 Aug
2005 your footcloth to comrade. Alexander Bondarenko.
AB>>>>>>> And in general, which subject (any type, which company) is best
AB>>>>>>> buy?
RA>>>>>> It is best to buy a CRT.
KF>>>>> There are two serious arguments against:
KF>>>>> 1. this is not fashionable now;
KF>>>>> 2. takes up space on the table.
AB>>>> And it’s also harmful to the eyes.
RA>>> And can you explain why CRT is more harmful to the eyes
RA>>> than TFT?
AB>> Try it, work for a while after CRT as a TFT specialist - yourself
AB>> you will understand.
RA> 1) I tried it, but I didn’t understand. A good CRT is clearly better than a cheap TFT
And you try to work for the dear ones. A good CRT is of course clearly better than a bad TFT,
This is a no brainer. Well, no need to take bad TFTs.
RA> 2) I asked for an explanation.
Why is there anything to explain here? I just grabbed a TFT player, in 3 days of working on it
I discovered that my eyes practically do not get tired and do not turn red. I can go to the computer now
Much more sitting time than with the old monitor. Quality of the image of me
satisfied. It’s possible to play with toys and play with programs too. What else do you need? RA>>> Specifically, resorting to physiological and medical terms and
RA>>> data
AB>> Well, I didn’t make it to burden everyone with trashy Latin.
RA> That is. incompetent in this matter, but you claim...
Of course, I understand that traffic in the grid needs to be increased... ;)))))))))
AB>> In courses it is simply that high voltage on the tube causes
AB>> X-ray radiation...
RA> Link, pls, where it is written.
Actually, this is a well-known fact. In color TVs/monitors with voltage on
in a tube above 30 kV it occurs. So who is incompetent here?
RA>>> and not advertising and marketing slogans....
AB>> And advertising and marketing slogans about “safety”
AB>> I don’t believe in CRT monitors anyway. It's a no-brainer what liquid crystals are
AB>> differ from cathode ray tube.
RA> So explain to me why, in the context under consideration....
;)))))))))) I'm having fun right now.
Listen, man, this is the topic here. Information costs money. Consulting work
also costs money. If you drive away the bashli, we’ll put this whole boyd on our fingers, don’tIf you drive away, the Internet, the library, and sales consultants are at your service.
p. s. Are you by any chance an American spy? Not Bill Gates's messenger? Not
pushing X-ray emitting CRT monitors into the masses? Come on, otherwise
I’ll do an Iky now! ;))))))))))
/That’s all, Roman, you can scroll further.../
From
Artem O. Kozakov
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To
Eugene Palenock
12 August 2005
■
Greetings, Eugene!
07 Aug 05, Eugene Palenock wrote to Valerij Kozhevnikoff:
VK>> Color rendition is the most painful issue of TFT, many of
VK>> TFT monitors display only 256K colors instead of the declared ones
VK>> 16M.
EP> Yep. Because the matrix does not know how to make different gradations of brightness
EP> pixel, this is achieved by pulse width modulation...
stop looking at TN+Film panels and buy S-IPS.
for reference - it is on S-IPS panels that Apple, Eizo, etc. are now making. prof.
monitors for working with color. There are no CRT monitors in stock.
EP> in the 7xx line. It does not maintain line linearity at >100Hz (and how
EP> it turned out that everyone has this), and is very sensitive to magnets (from speakers) in
EP> radius as much as half a meter.
EP> But on the ViewSonic G655 - the eyes get tired...
All inexpensive CRTs these days are crap, aka a lottery.
Best regards, Artem.
From
Artem O. Kozakov
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To
Eugene Palenock
12 August 2005
■
Greetings, Eugene!
EP> 2.their color rendering sucks. For working with graphics, normal
EP> the range of price lists is unsuitable.
NEC 1970NX, 1980FX, 1980FXi, LG 1930B, Philips 109B5
AB>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best
AB>> buy?
EP> It is better to buy a classic monitor.
Unfortunately, there are no normal ones left.
Best regards, Artem.
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Artem O. Kozakov
13 August 2005
Hello, Artem!
12 Aug 05, 16:27, Artem O. Kozakov wrote to Eugene Palenock on the topic
"TFT Monitors":
EP>> 2.their color rendering sucks. For working with graphics, normal
EP>> the range of price lists is unsuitable.
AK> NEC 1970NX, 1980FX, 1980FXi, LG 1930B, Philips 109B5
More or less, but still not quite the same, and they cost too much money.
AB>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best
AB>>> buy?
EP>> It’s better to buy a classic monitor.
AK> there are no normal ones left, unfortunately.
There are still some.
Happy connections. Roman.