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From Alexander Bondarenko To All 27 July 2005

*Hello, All!* Is there anyone here who understands numbers and other notations, present in the title of the subject? And in general, which subject (like, which company) is best to buy? /That’s all, All, you can scroll further.../

From Roman Alexandrov To Alexander Bondarenko 28 July 2005

Hello, Alexander! 27 Jul 05, 23:24, Alexander Bondarenko wrote to All on the topic "TFT Monitors": AB> And in general, what subject (type, what company) is best to buy? It's best to buy a CRT. Happy connections. Roman.

From Kirill Frolov To Roman Alexandrov 30 July 2005

Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov! On Thu, 28 Jul 05 07:13:56 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote: AB>> And in general, what subject (like, what company) is best to buy? RA> It is best to buy CRT. There are two serious arguments against: 1. it’s not fashionable now; 2. takes up space on the table.

From Kirill Frolov To Alexander Bondarenko 30 July 2005

Press RESET immediately, Alexander Bondarenko! On Wed, 27 Jul 05 22:24:47 +0400, Alexander Bondarenko wrote: AB> And in general, what subject (type, what company) is best to buy? A glimpse of consciousness suggests: we need to look not for “which one is better”, but for which one worse. And don't buy it.

From Roman Alexandrov To Kirill Frolov 30 July 2005

Hello, Kirill! 30 Jul 05, 01:01, Kirill Frolov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "Monitors TFT": AB>>> And in general, what subject (like, what company) is best to buy? RA>> It is best to buy CRT. KF> There are two serious arguments against: KF> 1. this is not fashionable now; This is not an argument at all. KF> 2. takes up space on the table. What to do, you have to pay something for quality.... Happy connections. Roman.

From Eugene Palenock To Alexander Bondarenko 30 July 2005

Hello Alexander! 27 Jul 05 23:24, Alexander Bondarenko -> All: AB> Is there anyone here who understands numbers and so on AB> designations present in the title of the subject? 1. You cannot change the resolution on the LCD (or change it so that it is a multiple maximum). Therefore, probably the best option (for 17") is 1024*768. (in principle, of course you can change it, but the pixels will be crooked) 2.their color rendering sucks. For working with graphics, the usual range price list is unsuitable. AB> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best AB> buy? It's better to buy a classic monitor. Best regards, Evgeniy.

From Alexander Bondarenko To Roman Alexandrov 30 July 2005

*Hello, Roman!* Catch my ideas about the subject “TFT Monitors”, which I talked about on 28 Jul 2005 your footcloth to comrade. Alexander Bondarenko. AB>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best AB>> buy? RA> It is best to buy CRT. These CRTs are annoying me at work... /That’s all, Roman, you can scroll further.../

From Vladimir Larkov To Eugene Palenock 31 July 2005

Hello Eugene! Sat 30-Jul-2005 11:23, you (500:95/468.1@ZXNet) wrote a letter to Alexander Bondarenko: EP> 1. You cannot change the resolution on the LCD (or change it so that it is a multiple EP> maximum). Therefore, probably the best option (for 17") is 1024*768. EP> (in principle, you can change it, of course, but the pixels will be crooked) 1024x768 is native for 15", for 17" - 1280x1024. With best wishes, Vladimir.

From Alexander Bondarenko To Roman Alexandrov 1 August 2005

*Hello, Roman!* Keep something from me on the cart about "Re: TFT Monitors" that I threw to you a certain Kirill Frolov on 30 Jul 2005. AB>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best AB>>> buy? RA>> It is best to buy CRT. KF> There are two serious arguments against: KF> 1. this is not fashionable now; KF> 2. takes up space on the table. And it’s also harmful to the eyes. /That’s all, Roman, you can scroll further.../

From Alexander Bondarenko To Roman Alexandrov 1 August 2005

*Hello, Roman!* Catch my ideas about the subject “TFT Monitors”, which I talked about on 30 Jul 2005 your footcloth to comrade. Kirill Frolov. AB>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best AB>>>> buy? RA>>> It is best to buy CRT. KF>> There are two serious arguments against: KF>> 1. it’s not fashionable now; RA> This is not an argument at all. KF>> 2. takes up space on the table. RA> What to do, you have to pay something for quality.... Healthy eyes, for example. :) /That’s all, Roman, you can scroll further.../

From Alexander Bondarenko To Vladimir Larkov 1 August 2005

*Hello, Vladimir!* Catch my ideas about the subject “TFT Monitors”, which I talked about on 31 Jul 2005 your footcloth to comrade. Eugene Palenock. EP>> 1. You cannot change the resolution on the LCD (or change it so that it is EP>> is a multiple of the maximum). Therefore, probably the best option (for EP>> 17") - 1024*768. (in principle, of course you can change it, but pixels EP>> there will be curves) VL> 1024x768 is native for 15", for 17" - 1280x1024. Why then is 19" also 1280x1024 native? /That’s all, Vladimir, you can scroll further.../

From Roman Alexandrov To Alexander Bondarenko 2 August 2005

Hello, Alexander! 01 Aug 05, 18:00, Alexander Bondarenko wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "TFT Monitors": AB>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best AB>>>> buy? RA>>> It is best to buy CRT. KF>> There are two serious arguments against: KF>> 1. it’s not fashionable now; KF>> 2. takes up space on the table. AB> And it’s also harmful to the eyes. And can you explain why CRT is more harmful to the eyes than TFT? Specifically, resorting to physiological and medical terms and data, rather than advertising and marketing slogans... Happy connections. Roman.

From Roman Alexandrov To Alexander Bondarenko 2 August 2005

Hello, Alexander! 01 Aug 05, 18:01, Alexander Bondarenko wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "TFT Monitors": AB>>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best AB>>>>> buy? RA>>>> It is best to buy CRT. KF>>> There are two serious arguments against: KF>>> 1. it’s not fashionable now; RA>> This is not an argument at all. KF>>> 2. takes up space on the table. RA>> What to do, you have to pay something for quality.... AB> Eye health, for example. :) I've been working with computers since '92, in recent years I've been staring at the screen for up to 10 hours a day. day, vision - one on both during this time has not changed at all. Happy connections. Roman.

From Eugene Palenock To Alexander Bondarenko 3 August 2005

Hello Alexander! 01 Aug 05 18:00, Alexander Bondarenko -> Roman Alexandrov: RA>>> It is best to buy CRT. KF>> There are two serious arguments against: KF>> 1. it’s not fashionable now; KF>> 2. takes up space on the table. AB> And it’s also harmful to the eyes. A good CRT will not tire your eyes. And people get tired of different office housing complexes very quickly. Best regards, Evgeniy.

From Valerij Kozhevnikoff To Alexander Bondarenko 4 August 2005

Hello, Alexander! Mon, 01 Aug 05 at 18:00, Alexander Bondarenko -> Roman Alexandrov: AB>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best AB>>>> buy? RA>>> It is best to buy CRT. KF>> There are two serious arguments against: KF>> 1. it’s not fashionable now; KF>> 2. takes up space on the table. AB> And it’s also harmful to the eyes. Gee. I have a CRT Panasonic Panasync/Pro P50 for the past 7 years. Vision - one as it was and remains. What am I doing wrong? The monitor is the most ordinary, well, except for the letters /pro in the name and a little higher prices relative to similar ones (at the time of purchase). The situation with TFT is worse - there are clearly more bad ones than good ones, due to its novelty technology. And the good ones are much more expensive than the bad ones, but in terms of quality they are not very different from CRT. Color rendition is the most painful issue of TFT; many of the TFT monitors depict only 256K colors instead of the stated 16M. This is especially noticeable in photographs. strongly. ALL photographers I know are spitting in unison towards TFT. Why would that be? PS: a friend has a 21" CRT monitor worth a few kilobucks - The color rendition is amazing, the picture is clear and nothing gets tired.I don’t argue, there are also multi-inch TFT monitors with more or less acceptable quality. But their price is such that, well, what for, they save space on the table of these It’s not worth the money, you can buy a neighboring apartment with the difference. WBR, Jason. _/(ZX)/_ /*e-mail: jason2000(not a cat)yandex.ru ICQ: 62235830*/ /np:/ *silence*

From Kirill Frolov To Alexander Bondarenko 4 August 2005

Press RESET immediately, Alexander Bondarenko! On Mon, 01 Aug 05 17:00:04 +0400, Alexander Bondarenko wrote: AB>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best AB>>>> buy? RA>>> It is best to buy CRT. KF>> There are two serious arguments against: KF>> 1. it’s not fashionable now; KF>> 2. takes up space on the table. AB> And it’s also harmful to the eyes. What exactly? There is no need for fairy tales about radiation and cacti.

From Kirill Frolov To Roman Alexandrov 4 August 2005

Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov! On Tue, 02 Aug 05 19:37:32 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote: KF>>>> 2. takes up space on the table. RA>>> What to do, you have to pay something for quality.... AB>> Eye health, for example. :) RA> I've been working with computers since 1992, in recent years I've been staring at the screen up to 10 RA> hours per day, vision - one for both during this time has not changed at all. I've been looking at the monitor for many years. One eye and a little another.

From Alexander Bondarenko To Roman Alexandrov 4 August 2005

*Hello, Roman!* Catch my ideas about the subject “TFT Monitors”, which I talked about in 02 Aug 2005 your footcloth to comrade. Alexander Bondarenko. AB>>>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best AB>>>>> buy? RA>>>> It is best to buy CRT. KF>>> There are two serious arguments against: KF>>> 1. it’s not fashionable now; KF>>> 2. takes up space on the table. AB>> And it’s also harmful to the eyes. RA> And can you explain why CRT is more harmful to the eyes than RA> TFT? Try it, work for a while after CRT as a TFT specialist - you’ll understand. RA> Specifically, resorting to physiological and medical terms and RA> data Well, I didn’t make it to burden everyone here with trashy Latin. In courses it’s simple, that high voltage on the tube causes x-ray radiation... I think This fact alone is already enough. RA> and not advertising and marketing slogans.... As for advertising and marketing slogans about the “safety” of CRT monitors, I already I don't believe it. It’s a no-brainer how liquid crystals differ from electron beam tubes. /That’s all, Roman, you can scroll further.../

From Roman Alexandrov To Alexander Bondarenko 6 August 2005

Hello, Alexander! 04 Aug 05, 12:22, Alexander Bondarenko wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "TFT Monitors": AB>>>>>> And in general, which subject (any type, which company) is best AB>>>>>> buy? RA>>>>> It's best to buy a CRT. KF>>>> There are two serious arguments against: KF>>>> 1. it’s not fashionable now; KF>>>> 2. takes up space on the table. AB>>> And it’s also harmful to the eyes. RA>> And can you explain why CRT is more harmful to the eyes than RA>> TFT? AB> Try it, work for a while after CRT as a TFT specialist - you’ll understand. 1) I tried it - I didn’t understand. A good CRT is clearly better than a cheap TFT 2) I asked for an explanation. RA>> Specifically, resorting to physiological and medical terms and RA>> data AB> Well, I didn’t make it to burden everyone with trashy Latin. That is I’m incompetent in this matter, but you say... AB> In courses it is simply that high voltage on the tube causes X-ray AB> radiation... Link, pls, where it is written. RA>> and not advertising and marketing slogans.... AB> And I and the advertising and marketing slogans about the “safety” of CRT monitors AB> I don’t believe so. It’s a no-brainer how liquid crystals differ from AB> cathode ray tube. So explain to me why, in the context under consideration.... Happy connections. Roman.

From Alexander Bondarenko To Roman Alexandrov 6 August 2005

*Hello, Roman!* Catch my ideas about the subject “TFT Monitors”, which I talked about in 06 Aug 2005 your footcloth to comrade. Alexander Bondarenko. AB>>>>>>> And in general, which subject (any type, which company) is best AB>>>>>>> buy? RA>>>>>> It is best to buy a CRT. KF>>>>> There are two serious arguments against: KF>>>>> 1. this is not fashionable now; KF>>>>> 2. takes up space on the table. AB>>>> And it’s also harmful to the eyes. RA>>> And can you explain why CRT is more harmful to the eyes RA>>> than TFT? AB>> Try it, work for a while after CRT as a TFT specialist - yourself AB>> you will understand. RA> 1) I tried it, but I didn’t understand. A good CRT is clearly better than a cheap TFT And you try to work for the dear ones. A good CRT is of course clearly better than a bad TFT, This is a no brainer. Well, no need to take bad TFTs. RA> 2) I asked for an explanation. Why is there anything to explain here? I just grabbed a TFT player, in 3 days of working on it I discovered that my eyes practically do not get tired and do not turn red. I can go to the computer now Much more sitting time than with the old monitor. Quality of the image of me satisfied. It’s possible to play with toys and play with programs too. What else do you need? RA>>> Specifically, resorting to physiological and medical terms and RA>>> data AB>> Well, I didn’t make it to burden everyone with trashy Latin. RA> That is. incompetent in this matter, but you claim... Of course, I understand that traffic in the grid needs to be increased... ;))))))))) AB>> In courses it is simply that high voltage on the tube causes AB>> X-ray radiation... RA> Link, pls, where it is written. Actually, this is a well-known fact. In color TVs/monitors with voltage on in a tube above 30 kV it occurs. So who is incompetent here? RA>>> and not advertising and marketing slogans.... AB>> And advertising and marketing slogans about “safety” AB>> I don’t believe in CRT monitors anyway. It's a no-brainer what liquid crystals are AB>> differ from cathode ray tube. RA> So explain to me why, in the context under consideration.... ;)))))))))) I'm having fun right now. Listen, man, this is the topic here. Information costs money. Consulting work also costs money. If you drive away the bashli, we’ll put this whole boyd on our fingers, don’tIf you drive away, the Internet, the library, and sales consultants are at your service. p. s. Are you by any chance an American spy? Not Bill Gates's messenger? Not pushing X-ray emitting CRT monitors into the masses? Come on, otherwise I’ll do an Iky now! ;)))))))))) /That’s all, Roman, you can scroll further.../

From Artem O. Kozakov To Eugene Palenock 12 August 2005

■ Greetings, Eugene! 07 Aug 05, Eugene Palenock wrote to Valerij Kozhevnikoff: VK>> Color rendition is the most painful issue of TFT, many of VK>> TFT monitors display only 256K colors instead of the declared ones VK>> 16M. EP> Yep. Because the matrix does not know how to make different gradations of brightness EP> pixel, this is achieved by pulse width modulation... stop looking at TN+Film panels and buy S-IPS. for reference - it is on S-IPS panels that Apple, Eizo, etc. are now making. prof. monitors for working with color. There are no CRT monitors in stock. EP> in the 7xx line. It does not maintain line linearity at >100Hz (and how EP> it turned out that everyone has this), and is very sensitive to magnets (from speakers) in EP> radius as much as half a meter. EP> But on the ViewSonic G655 - the eyes get tired... All inexpensive CRTs these days are crap, aka a lottery. Best regards, Artem.

From Artem O. Kozakov To Eugene Palenock 12 August 2005

■ Greetings, Eugene! EP> 2.their color rendering sucks. For working with graphics, normal EP> the range of price lists is unsuitable. NEC 1970NX, 1980FX, 1980FXi, LG 1930B, Philips 109B5 AB>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best AB>> buy? EP> It is better to buy a classic monitor. Unfortunately, there are no normal ones left. Best regards, Artem.

From Roman Alexandrov To Artem O. Kozakov 13 August 2005

Hello, Artem! 12 Aug 05, 16:27, Artem O. Kozakov wrote to Eugene Palenock on the topic "TFT Monitors": EP>> 2.their color rendering sucks. For working with graphics, normal EP>> the range of price lists is unsuitable. AK> NEC 1970NX, 1980FX, 1980FXi, LG 1930B, Philips 109B5 More or less, but still not quite the same, and they cost too much money. AB>>> And in general, which subject (type, which company) is best AB>>> buy? EP>> It’s better to buy a classic monitor. AK> there are no normal ones left, unfortunately. There are still some. Happy connections. Roman.