Take 2: emulsion for Linux
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Hello, All
So, despite the fact that such a topic already exists, I created a new one, because
1) there was something off-topic there
2) and something new could appear.
Actually, what is (and is there) a spec emulsion for Linux that Pentagon can do?
512 + TRDOS + AY
do not offer:
1) use Windows
2) wine + XXXYYY
here.
Is there anything that can help me or will I need to solder Monique to Kai?
Hello Sinus
Sin> So, despite the fact that such a topic already exists, I created a new one, so
Sin> as
Sin> 1) there was something not quite on topic
Sin> 2) and something new could appear.
Sin>
Sin> Actually, what is (and is there) a spec emulsion for Linux that
Sin> can Pentagon 512 + TRDOS + AY
Sin>
Sin> do not offer:
Sin> 1) use Windows
Sin> 2) wine + XXXYYY
Sin>
Sin> here.
Sin> is there anything that can help me or will I need to solder the monique to
Sin> kayu?
Glyukalka can handle Pentagon 128K - if desired, you can correct the source to 512K
also skillfully. Fuse does not know how to TR-DOS, but at one time I wrote a plug-in for him
which, using standard TR-DOS entry points, read files from the current directory.
Hello Shaos
Sha> Fuse does not know how to TR-DOS, but at one time I wrote a plug-in for him
Sha> which read files from the current one using standard TR-DOS entry points
Sha> directory.
Oops - apparently the last fuze can do tyrdos. The one I didn't know how to work with -
this was 3-4 years ago.
Hello Shaos
yeah, now TRDOS can fuse, but it can do it crookedly... there is also XZX-pro, about which
heard good things. but it's paid :(
Hello fk0
VMWare + Windows == point 1 (use Windows)
wine[x] - commercial project (if nothing has changed)
Yes, and raking with a rake is actually broken. It's easier to start one ;)
Hello fk0
VMWare + Windows == point 1 (use Windows)
wine[x] - commercial project (if nothing has changed)
Yes, and raking with a rake is actually broken. It's easier to start one ;)
Hello Sinus
Sin> and raking is actually broken. It's easier to start a kai ;)
Well, with something, but with Kai there will be no more problems than with this FUSE...
Pentagon-128, yes. :rolleyes:
Hello Sinus
By the way, only ZXMak is suitable for Cedega. Of course not the US, but it’s quite possible to live. FUSE
and didn’t lie nearby.
Hello, Electrician
> Well, with something, but with Kai there will be no more problems than this
> FUSE... Pentagon-128, yes. :rolleyes:
I strongly disagree ;).
Hello, sysop
sys> new released - PyZX - 0.1
sys> ....
sys> but since this is just code translated from java to Python, it’s not there
sys> stated requirements
I have concerns that this is a little off topic.
because in the subject it was "Pentagon 512 + TRDOS + AY"
and here clearly Pent512 does not smell.
and it seems to me that there are holes too.
especially since the emulator is in Python ;)
yes... ;)
An interesting language, of course, is Python. but absolutely not intended for
writing things like emulators.
Hello, Electrician
> Well, with something, but with Kai there will be no more problems than this
> FUSE... Pentagon-128, yes. :rolleyes:
I would venture to guess that you have never even seen Kai.
I've had it for 5 years now ;)
So presumably I have more reliable facts about glitches
kaya - namely, after minor alterations, everything works awesome.
I just don’t have time for nothing, but to connect Monique to Kai (normal, not
a drop from the corvette) we need to “file it a little” again, and for this
time is needed.
Hello Sinus
Sin> VMWare + Windows == item1 (use Windows)
Sin>
What are you saying? Are you a true Linuxist?
> wine[x] - commercial project (if nothing has changed)
>
I don't know how commercial it is, but about 3 years ago
I took the source code, compiled it, installed it and was happy. Money
there was no need.
> and raking is actually broken. It's easier to start a kai ;)
Yes of course.
It’s easier to install normal Windows, like everyone else does,
and don't do shit.
Hello fk0
fk0> What are you saying. Are you a true Linuxist?
no ;)
I use Windows, DOS(!), various versions of Linux, Beesdu, Beosi, qnx-s, Amigaosi
and so on (including our own production).
I just got sick of Windows for the next half a year ;)
> I don’t know how commercial it is, but 3 years ago I created the source
> took it, assembled it, set it up and rejoiced. There was no need for money.
this is more interesting ^_~
because the DX support that is available in wine simply doesn’t work well, to put it mildly.
> Yes, of course.
> It's easier to install normal Windows, like everyone else does, and not bother
> fuck it.
simpler, but not interesting.
option with Kai in the guise of the option with a spherical Spectrum emulator under
The good thing about Linux in a vacuum is that I can do my own projects.
The option with Windows is also good, but... I don’t want it.
Hello Sinus
And this is Linux - there’s no escape. If you need something that most people don't need,
then either write it yourself or change the platform. :(
Hello fk0
fk0> It's easier to install normal Windows, like everyone else does
fk0> and don’t engage in crap.
Wow... I just left ENT, and here it’s the same... :rolleyes:
Hello Sinus
And this is Linux - there’s no escape. If you need something that most people don't need,
then either write it yourself or change the platform. :(
Hello fk0
fk0> It's easier to install normal Windows, like everyone else does
fk0> and don’t engage in crap.
Wow... I just left ENT, and here it’s the same... :rolleyes:
Hello, do_se
Really, are you too lazy to install a firewall? I used for example TF, Atguard,
BlackCat and now in the Maryinskaya network there is a special firewall - also convenient (and mandatory
for installation).
Look, my computer sticks out on the Maryinskaya local network and on the Internet for several
hours every evening - no problem. Well, and also set the antivirus against email
catalogues.
Horror stories about hackers are just fine for lamers.
Although I have Linux, it’s rarely used, well, there’s not a lot of things for it
I need it (at least for working with FPGAs - all the software is for Win).
Hello Shaos
Sha> Heh - the software firewall does not turn on right away... In 2003 in the Russian
Sha> network worm (I don’t remember his name) managed to get into my computer with Win2k
Sha> the moment after turning on the computer and before the start of atguard.
I'm aware. For me, the connection itself is activated by the script only after downloading
systems. ;).
Hello, CHRV
It doesn’t matter what you actually use, at the moment all the problems
can be solved by properly configuring the OS.
Gentlemen, I propose to separate this undoubtedly interesting trade and place it in
flame!
They've gone very far off topic!
And most importantly, the problem of the topic has not been solved.
Hello fk0
fk0> Not funny. This is exactly how it is with home visible connected via gprs and
fk0> occurs. They manage to fuck in 10 minutes. I don’t even know what to do.
Do not use Internet Explorer. You can surf with Firefox/Opera for at least a year
the first release of XP and there will be no viruses.
Hello Shaos
Sha> It's easier to install Windows, like everyone else does, and get the full one
Sha> a bunch of Trojans and spyware that will slow down your computer to a degree
Sha> rush to the store to buy the next upgrade, and brotherly
Sha> share the contents of your hard drive with hundreds of brave people
Sha> kulhatzkeors, who, according to instructions from the KSAKEP magazine, will have
Sha> your computer in all devices... :mad:
People, are you serious about all this? :rolleyes: What Trojans, where? And where are the brakes?
In general, when you listen to people, you get the feeling that I have some kind of unique
a secret assembly of Windows that does not slow down or glitch. Well yes, I have
ADSL modem with NAT, I turn off all the nice things and don’t use IE and Outlook. So in
In Linux, you somehow manage without them, well, in Windows, use Mozilla with
opera and you will be happy.
Regarding the “slowness” of Windows and the “speed” of Linux, this is to put it mildly
not true. I compared different versions of Windows and all of them were optimized
built from scratch Gentoo. Under Linux, both in KDE and in Fluxbox, the shell itself
as such it’s slower even by eye, it’s the same with browsers - and they work
slower and take longer to load. This is compared with XP. And Win9x especially onOn weaker computers, the speed of the penguin is in the tail, and in the mane, and everywhere...
Hello fk0
fk0> Not funny. This is exactly how it is with home visible connected via gprs and
fk0> occurs. They manage to fuck in 10 minutes. I don’t even know what to do.
Do not use Internet Explorer. You can surf with Firefox/Opera for at least a year
the first release of XP and there will be no viruses.
Hello Sinus
lol, Linksoids are sooooo naive
Hello Shaos
Sha> It's easier to install Windows, like everyone else does, and get the full one
Sha> a bunch of Trojans and spyware that will slow down your computer to a degree
Sha> rush to the store to buy the next upgrade, and brotherly
Sha> share the contents of your hard drive with hundreds of brave people
Sha> kulhatzkeors, who, according to instructions from the KSAKEP magazine, will have
Sha> your computer in all devices... :mad:
People, are you serious about all this? :rolleyes: What Trojans, where? And where are the brakes?
In general, when you listen to people, you get the feeling that I have some kind of unique
a secret assembly of Windows that does not slow down or glitch. Well yes, I have
ADSL modem with NAT, I turn off all the nice things and don’t use IE and Outlook. So in
In Linux, you somehow manage without them, well, in Windows, use Mozilla with
opera and you will be happy.
Regarding the “slowness” of Windows and the “speed” of Linux, this is to put it mildly
not true. I compared different versions of Windows and all of them were optimized
built from scratch Gentoo. Under Linux, both in KDE and in Fluxbox, the shell itself
as such it’s slower even by eye, it’s the same with browsers - and they work
slower and take longer to load. This is compared with XP. And Win9x especially onOn weaker computers, the speed of the penguin is in the tail, and in the mane, and everywhere...
Hello fk0
fk0> Not funny. This is exactly how it is with home visible connected via gprs
fk0> and it happens. They manage to fuck in 10 minutes. I don’t even know what to do.
fk0> Previously I connected via Linux, but now Linux is nearby
fk0> no.
Install Outpost and all problems will end. Linux is not a wall...
Hello fk0
fk0> It's easier to install normal Windows, like everyone else does
fk0> and don’t engage in crap
Your super statement needs to be slightly adjusted:
It’s easier to install a scorched Windows, like everyone else does, and get a full bouquet of Trojans
and spyware that will slow down the computer to the point of rushing to the store for
purchasing the next upgrade, and fraternally sharing the contents of your hard
disk with hundreds of brave kulhatzkeors, who, according to instructions from the KSAKEP magazine
they will have your computer in all devices... :mad:
Hello, do_se
do_> Install Outpost and all problems will end. Linux is not a wall...
If you don’t run just anything from under root and update the kernel periodically, then that’s it
should be ok (let me remind you that in Linux the firewall is configured at the kernel level).
Hello, CHRV
CHR> In reality, are you too lazy to install a firewall? I used for example TF,
CHR> Atguard, BlackCat and now there is a special firewall in the Maryinsk network
CHR> convenient (and required for installation).
CHR> I have a computer on the Maryinskaya local network and on the Internet
CHR> a few hours every evening - no problem. Well, and also antivirus
CHR> set against mail catalogs.
CHR> Horror stories about hackers are good for lamers.
Heh - the software firewall does not turn on right away... In 2003 on the Russian network
the worm (I don’t remember his name) managed to get into my computer with Win2k the moment after
turning on the computer and before starting atguard.
Hello Shaos
Sha> Your super saying needs to be slightly adjusted:
Sha>
It's not mine. It's somehow easier for me to install debian...
> It's easier to install Windows, like everyone else does, and get the full one
> a bunch of Trojans and spyware that will slow down your computer to a degree
> rush to the store to buy the next upgrade, and in a brotherly way
> share the contents of your hard drive with hundreds of brave souls
> kulhatzkeors, who, according to instructions from the KSAKEP magazine, will have
> your computer in all devices... :mad:
Not funny. This is exactly how it is with home visible connected via gprs
and it happens. They manage to fuck in 10 minutes. I don’t even know what to do. Previously
I connected via Linux, but now Linux is nearby
no.
Hello Shaos
Sha> Windows itself is full of holes - worms can get into it without the help of ehplers and
Sha> glitches are creeping in
haha. Linkuksoids on the membrane forum also said so. however, the person put
They specifically need XP SP2 WITHOUT ANY ADJUSTMENTS and not a single bastard has done it.
do you want to try? look for the IP somewhere among the topic pages
http://forum.membrana.ru/forum/computers.html?parent=1052429562&page=0
Hello SMT
For me, it’s generally an indicator that when the Microsoft server was on Unix,
Now they are on Windows. And who do they most often try to take down ;).
Hello, Electrician
No, I don’t understand... Firewall, put your hands down, or maybe they don’t reach out so that the Trojans
didn't climb? Shaos is especially pleasing, fingers are of course good, but stubbornness in Linux
- this is bad. If you have arms (at least one) and a brain (at least one) and normal
firewall (only one) - Trojans will not get through. Nobody passes me for two years,
only if I suddenly, out of stupidity, unload the firewall by stepping into the dispatcher
tasks... By the way, Windows is XP without any service packs...
Hello Shaos
Sha> on the membrane it looks like teapots and lamaki are rubbing - there is no one to blame
come on, if you really think so, dump this machine yourself ;-)
or do you consider yourself to be one of these groups of users? :-)
Hello Shaos
Sha> yes, I’m not a hacker - destructive acts are alien to me
like, “I haven’t read it, but I condemn it”
Hello, Electrician
> Regarding the "slowness" of Windows and the "speed" of Linux, this is mild
> telling a lie. I compared different versions of Windows and all of myself
> optimized Gentoo built from scratch. Under Linux, what in KDE, what
> in Fluxbox the shell itself is slower even by eye, with
> browsers are the same - they work slower and take longer to load. This
> when compared with XP. And Win9x especially on weak penguin computers
> speeds up the tail, the mane, and everywhere...
I worked at home on a 486DX2-80 with 12 megagrams of memory from 1998 to 2003 - there
there was both Windows 95 and 98, and Slakvar - and so the X's just flew into Slakvar
(I’ll note, however, that it’s not KDE or gnome, but bare X’s with a couple of simple managers
windows), and Windows, sorry, was dying in terrible agony (there were no tears to watch
impossible ; ) - and as a result, I was finally killed by the end of the twentieth
century, giving complete freedom to Linux on that computer...
Hello, Electrician
> Do not use Internet Explorer. You can use Firefox/Opera for at least a year
> climb with the first release of XP and there will be no viruses.
Windows itself is full of holes - worms crawl into it without the help of ehplers and out-glitches
Hello SMT
SMT> haha. Linkuksoids on the membrane forum also said so. however, man
SMT> specially supplied them with XP SP2 WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL SETTINGS and none
SMT> the bastard didn't leave. do you want to try? look for the IP somewhere among the pages
SMT> topics
SMT> http://forum.membrana.ru/forum/computers.html?parent=1052429562&page=
SMT> 0
SP2 is more difficult to knock down, I agree, but on the membrane it looks like teapots and tinkers
they rub - there is no one to blame :wink:
Hello SMT
SMT> come on, if you really think so, dump this machine yourself ;-)
SMT>
SMT> or do you consider yourself to be one of these user groups? :-)
Yes, I’m not a hacker - destructive acts are alien to me :smile:
Hello Sinus
Sin> AY is emulated crookedly, there are clearly fewer cycles in the pentagon than in the original
Sin> (tested in Condommed (c)E-Mage demo)
Sin>
Sin> PS. Pent-512 screws on easily.
Sin> zyy. give me a port of unreal ;) !!!!
if you are interested, you can make ZXMAK.NET suitable for Linux ;)
For this I need information on the features of Dotnet environments in Linux, for example
mono...
Regarding the Pentagon, I’m thinking about making Pentagon 1024 in the next version, but I’m struggling
guesses about its compatibility with the Pentagon 512...
P.S.: regarding ZXMAK.NET - I'm waiting for discussions (in the "ZXMAK.NET" topic on this
forum)... ;)
Hello, Alexander Makeev
Ale> besides mono, what other .net environments are there for Linux?
Of those that work, none.
> in C#, Managed C++ - this is for masochists, it seems to me microsoft
> specially distorted it this way :mad: so that the snipers would have an incentive to
> transition to C# was :rolleyes:
yeah. horror.
True, C# was also a bit tricky (especially in .NET < 2.0 - no , no
multiple inheritance... nothing. and they also force you to write on such an awl
:mad: )
2.0 even less more.
Hello, Alexander Makeev
mono... I haven’t used it much, but I don’t think anything good will come out of this mono.
Hello, Alexander Makeev
I’m not talking about the fact that you can’t write programs in .NET (I wonder why I get a salary
do I get it then? ;) )
but about the fact that mono is a shame.
PS Do you even write in C# or Managed C++?
Zyy. and the executable starts. because there is almost nothing exe there, but in the ass
The compiled bytecode is glued to it.
Hello Sinus
Sin> mono... I haven’t used it much, but I don’t think anything will come of it with this mono
Sin> good.
I once thought that .net was a type of BASIC, but its requirements are higher than
for ordinary programs in C, but not significantly and only for specific narrow ones
areas, I think on computers >= 1000 MHz is the normal speed in the emulator with sound
get real! :cool:
I'm downloading mono right now, I'll try to install it... :smile:
it would be cool if one exe can be run equally under both Windows and Windows
Linux... :cool:
Hello Sinus
Sin> I'm not talking about the fact that you can't write programs in .NET (I wonder what I'm for
Sin> do I receive a salary then? ;) )
Sin> and about the fact that mono- sewed.
Sin>
Besides mono, what other .net environments are there for Linux?
Sin> PS. Do you even write in C# or Managed C++?
Sin>
in C#, Managed C++ - this is for masochists, it seems to me that Microsoft specifically designed it
I distorted it in such a way :mad:, so that SSI people would have an incentive to switch to C# :rolleyes: