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Hello axor
axo> Dear win programmers. Maybe someone will remake SN
axo> under Win Xp?
Why are ZX plugins not suitable for FAR?
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Alexander Shushkov
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15 November 2005
Hello SMT
Dear win programmers. Maybe someone will remake SN for Win?
Xp?
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Andrey Marinov
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15 November 2005
Hello, Alexandr Medvedev
Ale> Why are ZX plugins not suitable for FAR?
But do FAR plugins already include recording on real floppy disks?
From
Shadow Maker
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15 November 2005
Hello axor
What's the point?
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Dima Kozlov
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16 November 2005
Hello, nyuk
nyu> Have FAR plugins already included recording to real floppy disks?
and you should ask Sasha Medvedev personally :) he has...
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Alexander Shushkov
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16 November 2005
Hello, nyuk
nyu> Have FAR plugins already included recording to real floppy disks?
Here, here. It is extremely necessary to record on real floppy disks under XP. RealSpectrum,
Of course, this is the only option for now, but I would also like the convenience of the commander.
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Andrey Baglay
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17 November 2005
Hello, Alexandr Medvedev
We are waiting for utilities!!!
I have a lot of reals here for distillation
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SMT
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17 November 2005
Hello, Alexandr Medvedev
Ale> How to determine the type of drives A and B (5.25 3.5 or general) in Win NT
Ale> missing)
GetDriveType - should be DRIVE_REMOVABLE, then DeviceIoControl -
IOCTL_STORAGE_GET_MEDIA_TYPES - on my flop, 2 valid types are returned:
3.5" 1.44 and 3.5" 720
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Alexander Medvedev
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17 November 2005
Hello elf/2
elf> and ask Sasha Medvedev personally :)
There is no need to ask personally, in a couple of days I will post 3 utilities on the forum
(work via com. line): formatter, reader in .trd and writer .trd in
disk. In the meantime, download and install the driver for FDC (if you have not installed it
together with RealSpectrum) http://www.ramsoft.bbk.org/emul/FdInstall.exe.
I, in turn, have a question. How to determine the type of drives A and B in Win NT
(5.25 3.5 or absent) ?
And the plugins have not yet been completed because... the presence of disk drives has not been checked, and they
types.
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Alexander Shushkov
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19 November 2005
Hello SMT
In general, let's hope that through joint efforts normal utilities will appear
for working with real floppy disks under XP...
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Kirill Frolov
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10 May 2006
Hello elf/2
elf> let's play with words if you like. in original
elf> message I read that PC users are divided into two groups:
elf> sane and
elf>
elf> I would paraphrase. among system administrators, programmers and others
elf> comrades who need ease of working with files and
elf> additional services (editor/archivers, etc.)
elf>
So is it required to WORK or WORK WITH FILES? I have a hard time imagining
why would I need to carry files all day from left to right and
from right to left. What kind of work is this?
And if you just need to work, then editors, archivers and who knows what else
available separately and great if you need it (for example, an archiver, but not
editor) everything has been built in for a long time. in explorer. In nautilus. In konqueror. Even in bash.
> perhaps there are “hackers” among them. and if a person sits all the time
> in MS office/1c/photoshop it really has Explorer capabilities
> enough for the eyes.
>
I'm using: 1) a text editor or "IDE", 2) an email client, 3)
Mozilla, etc.4) in the console. Such a concept as a file is necessary and makes sense only in the latter
case. In all others there are folders, documents, attachments, applications,
applets, audio recordings and just pictures.
> I don’t agree, commanders are used by people who find it more convenient
> which allows you to save time on file operations.
>
Which ones? open, read, write, close?
> windows also does not include normal text
>
Wordpad.
> graphic editor
>
Windows contains *nothing* at all. Why this is so is understandable. On pirated
on disks with Windows it’s all there and can even be installed during the installation process
Windows
> the main Linux distributions include midnight
>
It is noteworthy that it is non-functional... (specifically in Debian, in Ubuntu
I couldn’t find it at all, there’s probably a third-party assembly, but I gave up searching).
> Moreover, RedHat patches it quite regularly.
>
In RHEL? This is not a distribution for people.
> by the way, have you ever tried to see how many two-panel ones there are
> commanders has been written and continues to be written? I looked - about a hundred.>
This suggests that novice hackers, due to their inability to use
using ready-made means, first of all, you want to write your own and wretched one? How much
out of these hundreds is it really comparable to windows explorer? One or two.
Is > suitable for cvs?
> besides, I know the person who wrote svn support in total for
> yourself...
>
There is nothing else for a person to do.
> by the way, one of the two spell checkers for the headlight uses the office one
> check, another based on some open source tool. so they work
> different approaches: I carry my own with me and use someone else’s. who wants what
> like it :)
Who will support what you like?
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10 May 2006
Hello Vovoi
Vov> Message from fk0
Vov> Among the "hackers". In quotes.
Vov>
Vov> Well, yes!? Right now I’m writing from a mobile phone via iRDA on a laptop 486 with a screw in
Vov> 170MB, Chicago is there and I’m fighting for every byte. Where else can I get WinRAR
Vov> I’ll install 2MB and Extract Zip?
Vov>
It takes up, without unnecessary things, ~800KB and ~64KB support for each
additional archiver. WinZIP is not needed.
> There's absolutely no space for swapping and there's barely any Opera cache with 8MB of RAM
> is enough. A
>
With 8MB of RAM you need to use DOS or FreeBSD 4.x versions. And instead of opera
use lynx.
And you also have explorer, it’s probably just one hell of a thing in your memory. Him,
By the way, you can throw it out and replace it with taskman. Only then half of the programs do not
works.
> VinRara, everything works quickly (I don’t have a mouse yet, just trackpoint :)
> so the commanders rule, and the explorer (conductor) is not for everyone.
>
How to quickly find a file in TC (place the cursor on it)?
> How do you like the FTP explorer to change the attributes of a file on the server?
> I looked at it right now - it changes. Why shouldn't he?
And no one canceled ftp.exe.
> And the commander, like the FAR manager, can do this.
>
TC I haven't even tried it. But neither FAR nor MC work normally via FTP.
There are always some glitches.
> In passing, I’ll note that TCMD is the only one on my almost dead computer
> calmly shows movies in VideoCD format (LightAlloy asks for DX8 a
> BSPlayer does not start).
>
Only it is not he who does this, but the corresponding codec. Just like you should
mplayer.
> Well, the text shows in DOS and EXH,
>
Does it not show iso (GOST) and UTF-8?
> which is weak for the explorer (for example, viewing DOS ASCII graphics).
>
Explorer doesn't know how to "look" at all. For this there is wordpad, notepad, finally
internet explorer. The latter can view everything, in any encoding. Yes and
The first two can be done by selecting the appropriate font. Hands?
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10 May 2006
Hello fk0
what kind of offtopic?
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Dima Kozlov
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10 May 2006
Hello fk0
fk0> How to quickly find a file in TC (place the cursor on it)?
clarify the task. if this needs to be done in the current directory and the file name is known,
then in FAR - Alt+first letters. I think it should be very similar in TC.
fk0> TC I haven't even tried it. But neither FAR nor MC is ok via FTP
fk0> are working.
fk0> There are always some glitches.
Which headlight plug-in did you look at and when? What ftp did you use? approval
too categorical and poorly reasoned
fk0> Does it not show iso (GOST) and UTF-8?
the headlight shows :) so that unnecessary questions do not arise, go to the catalog
"C:Program FilesFarAddonsTables" and see the list of supported encodings
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Dima Kozlov
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10 May 2006
Hello fk0
fk0> So you need to WORK or WORK WITH FILES? I'm weak
fk0> represent
fk0> why would I need to carry files all day from left to right and
fk0> from right to left. What kind of work is this?
fk0>
fk0> And if you just need to work, then editors, archivers and the devil
fk0> knows what else
fk0> is available separately and is great if you need it (for example,
fk0> is an archiver, but not an editor) everything has been built in for a long time. in explorer. B
fk0> nautilus. In konqueror. Even in bash.
fk0>
Okay, let me briefly list what is included in my concept of working with files:
- copy/move/synchronize files and directories
- search files by mask/content
- fix a couple of lines in the sources in php/python/jscript/bash/html. preferably
with syntax highlighting
- rename pictures merged from the camera according to the shooting date
- name mp3 files in accordance with tags and vice versa
- copy files from/to trd/scl
- view zx gfx from dihalt'06
- copy files from/to a Linux car
- view files in rar/zip/7zip/tar.gz/rpm archives. unpack/pack
as needed- find/replace something in text with regular expressions
- go to a dozen machines on the network and “work with files” there
- launch console tools (ipconfig, bat files, etc.) and
view/copy output
- quickly go to frequently used/special directories
I guess that all this can be done separately using some tools. but
These tools need to be found/installed/customized for yourself. and on several computers.
and I can simply copy the headlights with a set of configured plugins
fk0> I'm using: 1) a text editor or "IDE", 2) an email client,
fk0> 3) Mozilla, etc.
fk0> 4) in the console. Such a concept as a file is necessary and makes sense only in
fk0> in the latter case. In all the rest there are folders, documents,
fk0> attachments, applications, applets, audio recordings and just pictures.
fk0>
others have other working tools and for them all these are files
fk0> Which ones? open, read, write, close?
fk0>
see above
fk0> Wordpad.
fk0>
excellent editor for a programmer, with syntax highlighting, search with
regular expressions, autocompletion, substitution of frequently used
designs :)fk0> Windows contains *nothing at all*. Why this is so is understandable. Ha
fk0> pirate
fk0> on disks with Windows it’s all there and can even be installed during the process
fk0> Windows installations.
fk0>
and I'm talking about the fact that if something is not included in Windows, it does not mean that it is not for anyone
necessary.
besides, there is nothing pirated on my car and cannot stand it
fk0> In RHEL? This is not a distribution for people.
fk0>
poorly substantiated statement. In addition, midnight is available in suse/fedor.
as far as I know redhat+suse cover quite a large part of the market
fk0> This suggests that novice hackers, due to inability
fk0> use ready-made tools, first of all I want to write
fk0> your own and wretched? How many of these hundreds are actually comparable to windows
fk0> explorer? One or two.
fk0>
from my point of view, this tells a different story - the standard explorer satisfies
not everyone.
fk0> There is nothing else for a person to do.
fk0>
strange, you were interested in the availability of plugins for working with cvs/svn. I broughtlinks to such plugins and said that there is a person who did/is still doing
one. Where does this paradoxical conclusion come from that he has nothing to do?
fk0> Who will support what you like?
author, who else :)
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Dima Kozlov
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11 May 2006
Hello Specter
what about him :)
I won't do it anymore :), and let's leave the topic as it is. otherwise they will start again
swear that messages from the forum disappear :)
2spectre; on; I most likely will not respond to such statements, but
when our people are beaten...
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11 May 2006
Hello RomanRom2
Rom> feet nouta, look who we have here! :)))
Rom>
Rom> I know for sure that getting into the zero ring of Windows protection
Rom> is possible. I even had some sorts somewhere, both for 95 (9x) and for HT. just me
Rom> haven't tried them, be careful
Rom>
But I know absolutely for sure - it’s impossible. On normally updated Windows. Otherwise
Its entire protected OS paradigm is going down the drain.
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11 May 2006
Hello elf/2
elf> okay, let me briefly list what is included in my concept of working with
elf> files:
elf>
> - copy/move/synchronize files and directories
>
Copy/move is something rare and easy for normal users
executable and by non-commander means. I can tell you, I need a copy
to take the files home. And move-rename is practically not needed at all. Only
if only the long and impossible title could be translated into Russian.
Synchronization is a very pressing issue. Only if we're talking about
synchronization (for example, a laptop and a stationary machine) - I’m into this
I didn’t see the commanders at all. In Windows there are, for example, “offline files”.
Linux has unisync. In the headlight? TC has a "directory comparison". Only this
not quite synchronization and use it... I TRIED it. When there are others
There are no funds at all - this may be a way out. But it’s like that there
out of sync...
I got tired of raking it later. Now I put it in subversion right away.
And similar individual “graphic synchronizers”, and correctly
there are plenty of workers. It’s another matter when it’s completely manual, the panel on the left,
the panel on the right is when you really need a commander. This is his onlypurpose - PANELS. TWO. LEFT AND RIGHT. He never gave up again.
When I need two panels, I also take midnight.
> - search files by mask/content
>
Press F3.
> - correct a couple of lines in the sources in php/python/jscript/bash/html.
> preferably with syntax highlighting
>
For this there is such a thing as a text editor. Or "IDE". What to whom?
For example Vim. And the search, mind you, is there, and the highlighting, and what else. Moreover
working normally, unlike... And multi-window. See in the commander
for example, search context in one window and text (editable) in another - not
had to. Opening two editors (two files) is generally impossible. Yes, in the headlight
possible. But not on the same screen - you need to switch. And actually
The editor itself is built-in - and **** what’s more, the censorship won’t let such words pass. Not
we must try to compete with even professionals, even with amateurs, but with
editors have several decades of writing experience - IT WILL NOT WORK.
> - rename pictures merged from the camera according to the date
> shooting
>
Yeah. And also spend half your life studying the non-standard squiggles of this
plugin.I somehow mastered perl and that’s enough for me. read man rename once
diagonals, through the line.
> - name mp3 files in accordance with tags and vice versa
>
Just type this into Google. There will be 10 pages of software links. Than normal
users are using it.
> - copy files from/to trd/scl
> - view zx gfx from dihalt'06
>
That's it. But who is to blame for this?
> - copy files from/to a Linux car
>
I just drag them with my mouse. AND IT WORKS! DOESN'T STOP!
And it can do authorization! And Ntteen megabytes per second!
> - view files in rar/zip/7zip/tar.gz/rpm archives.
> unpack/pack as necessary
>
Two mouse clicks. In any modern *DE. And I don’t even think about how it is
works. There is some kind of Ark. There is Winrar. Stolen... YES IT WORKS. Just
works. Here, apparently, they don’t even know what happens if you go to the archive in mc. He's his
will repack... :-(
> - find/replace something in text with regular expressions
>
This is done in the editor. Change is non-visual - it's 1970.> - go to a dozen machines on the network and “work with files” there
> - launch console tools (ipconfig, bat files, etc.) and
> view/copy output
> - quickly go to frequently used/special directories
>
There are appropriate means for all this. In addition to "work with files" -
you can “work”, or you can “with files”... A commander is needed, apparently, due to inability
use standard tools.
> I guess that all of this can be done separately in some way
> tools. but these tools need to be found/installed/customized for yourself. and
> on several computers.
>
No need. It is standard, included. And the profile, configured, you need to take with you
wear.
> excellent editor for a programmer, with syntax highlighting, search
> with regular expressions, autocompletion, often substitution
> used constructions :)
>
Vim? Well, not bad. What is there in the headlight cannot be called such at all.
Have you ever had your power/OS/editor/terminal finally go glitchy?
Fonts again. If I plan to stare at a screen all day... Windows. They are simply
no...
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11 May 2006
Hello elf/2
elf> clarify the task. if this needs to be done in the current directory and is known
elf> file name, then in FAR - Alt+first letters. I believe that in TC it should
elf> be very similar.
elf>
I thought so too...
> which headlight plugin did you look at and when? What FTP did you use?
> the statement is too categorical and poorly reasoned
>
Full-time. FTP your own: proftpd. Still have to deal with headlight glitches
I have no time and no desire. Plus - encoding. Guess which one? (windows when working in
networks uses all 4...)
> the headlights show :) so that unnecessary questions do not arise, go to the catalog
> "C:Program FilesFarAddonsTables" and see the list of supported
> encodings
I'm happy for him. But the last time I used it was several years ago.
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11 May 2006
Hello elf/2
I demand to stop offtopic, who wants to use panel commanders, who
wants - he doesn’t use it, there’s no point in arguing.
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11 May 2006
Hello,GriV
I have been reading K. Frolov’s messages in zx.spectrum for several years now and have already gotten used to them.
elf/2 surprises me; If; next time fk0 will write that the mouse and keyboard
Torvald Linus came up with the idea that if you make round windows in Windows it will be smaller
glitch, the Internet was invented to advertise modems, in Linux 5.25 the disk drive can
read (and write) CDs, and the NTFS system provokes the appearance of bad problems on
hard drive, are you really going to waste time proving him wrong?
I completely agree with moroz1999 and GriV - the debate about panels is maliciously off-topic.
You should clean the thread, and continue the topic (if desired) in a private message.
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SMT
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Hello fk0
flame a little, or something ^___^
fk0> Copy/move is something rare for normal users
fk0> and is easily executable by non-commander means. I can say that
fk0> I need a copy to take the files home. And move-rename in general
fk0> is practically not needed. Only if the name is long and impossible
fk0> translate into Russian
of course, normal users who read the instructions for the program and
They follow it strictly and do not need to be copied. and someone needs to do it often
copies of data, at least when debugging programs that work with this data.
I foresee a fair remark that it is necessary to back up using special utilities, such as Norton
Back-It Up. Well, yes, that’s what users do. and a friend sets up the utilities
programmer once per bottle of lemonade
Actually, the editor in FAR is the best of all that is available for my tasks. funny
listen to objections like “but Word has a spell checker and
hyphenation." I need integration with the commander, at least
to easily substitute the file name under the cursor or the current paths into the script
panels
Well, I don’t like a lot of GUI utilities because the scenarios for interacting with them
very tough. in commanders (good ones) the ideology is such that the user cancombine small actions into something to solve your problems. for example, no
search by size, found everything, sorted by size, discarded unsuitable ones and
received a list of files, ready for further action. again, easy
compose, for example, all the files in the directory with the project, look (literally for
2 button presses), how much *.OBJ files take up, delete *.PCH, *.DOC files
copy and give to someone (the trick is that I probably didn’t know what I wanted
give away the DOC files before I see them. and in Explorer you would have to do it again
search)
ok, I’ll finish the monologue (:)) with a small example. downloaded files recently
"Rec_-_01_[Ayu]_[7CA595FC].avi"
"Rec_-_02_[Ayu]_[F6B1C31F].avi"
"Rec_-_03_[Ayu]_[1DFF35B0].avi"
"Rec_-_04_v2_[Ayu]_[8B173562].avi"
"Rec_-_05_[Ayu]_[F3BD0DD6].avi"
Episode01.srt
Episode02.srt
the player automatically loads subtitles only if their file name matches the name
AVI (except for the extension, of course). So, you can rename subtitle files
if you have your imagination, in half a minute, and without using plugins. what about
do in explorer? I don’t think special utilities exist, the task is too
specific. rename manually, 13-26 files each... well, well
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12 May 2006
Hello SMT
SMT> "Rec_-_01_[Ayu]_[7CA595FC].avi"
SMT> "Rec_-_02_[Ayu]_[F6B1C31F].avi"
SMT> "Rec_-_03_[Ayu]_[1DFF35B0].avi"
SMT> "Rec_-_04_v2_[Ayu]_[8B173562].avi"
SMT> "Rec_-_05_[Ayu]_[F3BD0DD6].avi"
SMT> ...
SMT> Episode01.srt
SMT> Episode02.srt
SMT> ...
SMT>
Whaaaat! And I haven’t even had time to look yet! ^_^ Baka vehemently!
It has been noticed that after death a sinclairist becomes an anime fan. Honto, honto.
SMT> the player automatically loads subtitles only if their file name matches
SMT> with the name AVI (except for the extension, of course). so, you can
SMT> rename subtitle files with your imagination in half a minute,
SMT> and without using plugins. what to do in Explorer?
SMT> I don’t think there are special utilities, the task is too specific.
SMT> rename manually, 13-26 files each... well, well
By the way, for these purposes (directly the example with subs) I use Total and Ctrl+M.
I love gui ^__- Well, by the way, VobSub sometimes understands that it needs to load subseven if the names do not match (he is guided there by the series number, apparently and
if only one version of the subs is nearby).
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12 May 2006
Hello fk0
bosses! please move messages starting from #31 to the "Flame" section
I can't resist commenting again :(
fk0> Press F3.
fk0>
pressed it cannot search inside archives, in HEX, in different encodings. I'm not
I can save the search results and use them again. didn't find how
search in several folders that interest me.
fk0> For this there is such a thing as a text editor. Or "IDE".
fk0> To whom what.
fk0> For example Vim. And the search, mind you, is there, and highlighting, and what else.
fk0> Moreover, it works normally, unlike. And multi-window. B
fk0> the commander can see, for example, the search context in one window and the text
fk0> (editable) in another - it was not necessary. Open two editors
fk0> (two files) - completely impossible. Yes, in a headlight you can. But not on one
fk0> screen - switch - what for. And the editor himself
fk0> built-in - **** also, censorship will not let such words pass. No need
fk0> try to compete with either professionals or amateurs, but
fk0> with several decades of experience writing editors - HEfk0> WILL GET IT.
fk0>
The IDE is large, slow to launch, and needs to be installed and configured. with very
It is highly likely that the other machine does not have it or it is configured differently.
although if you need to write a lot, then I will also pick up the IDE. but for minor edits it is not
convenient.
VIM is not a bad editor for those who know it. I was able to remember :q! and
a couple more buttons. in addition to how to edit files in an archive or on a remote
Linux machine?
fk0> Yep. And also spend half your life studying non-standard squiggles
fk0> of this plugin.
fk0> perl somehow mastered it and I've had enough. read man rename once, by
fk0> diagonals, through the line.
fk0>
and everything is very simple there. and you can start using this plugin significantly
easier than mastering pearl and reading man rename diagonally
fk0> Just type this into Google. There will be 10 pages of software links. Than
fk0> are normal users and use them.
fk0>
this software is not always free, you need to install it, it will not work inside
archive
fk0> I just drag them with the mouse. AND IT WORKS! DOESN'T STOP!fk0> And it can do authorization! And Ntwenty megabytes per second!
fk0>
really? and why did you install this on Linux? samba perhaps? and if there is no samba
and it can't be
fk0> Two mouse clicks. In any modern *DE. And I don’t even think about it
fk0> how it works. There is some kind of Ark. There is Winrar. Stolen... YES
fk0> IT WORKS. It just works. Here, apparently, they don’t even know what happens
fk0> if you go to the archive in mc. He will repack it... :-(
fk0>
Did I already say that additional software needs to be installed? it seems like yes. stolen from me
winrar cannot be installed on the machine.
fk0> This is done in the editor. Change is not visual - this is 1970.
fk0>
1970 - really? then try visually changing the case of the attributes in the required ones
tags of a large html file. or snatch the necessary records from the megabyte log -
also visually
fk0> There are appropriate tools for all this. In addition to "work with
fk0> files" - you can "work", or you can "with files"... A commander is needed
fk0> apparently due to the inability to use standard tools.
fk0> In your previous message you wrote that “Windows contains *nothing at all*.
Why this is so is understandable." then what standard tools are you talking about?
now?
fk0> No need. It is standard, included. And the profile, configured, must be done with
fk0> to carry.
fk0>
in this message you listed: IDE, VIM, several pages of utilities found on
Google, WinRAR, some Arc, perl
This is not quite standard and included. and in profile, even infused, which needs
It’s unlikely that you’ll be able to fit it in with you.
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12 May 2006
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Actually, you are the boss
oh! I really can do this myself :)
sent the entire flame where it should be
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12 May 2006
Hello RomanRom2
elf> bosses! please move messages starting from #31 to section
elf> "Flame"
Actually, you are the boss yourself :).
If my vision serves me correctly, then you are the moderator of this thread :cool: