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Hello, All!
Please advise the subject. Microsoft 2-button mouse with wheel.
Preamble: I installed Opera and discovered that Mouseimp does not work in it. Wheel
Scrolling one line at a time is slow, so I installed Mitsumov’s firewood, which
They can change the scrolling step. They turned out to have a feature - if you keep the button pressed
longer than two seconds - it locks in the pressed state and in order to be released -
you need to click again. I'm not used to this.
What do you recommend?
PS: Mouseimp is a gadget that allows you to right-click to grab onto
image and scroll it in any direction.
WBR, Jason.
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Hello Valerij!
16 Nov 04 15:13, Valerij Kozhevnikoff -> All:
VK> Recommend the subject. Microsoft 2-button mouse with wheel.
VK> Preamble: I installed Opera and discovered that Mouseimp does not work in it.
VK> The wheel scrolls slowly one line at a time, that’s why I installed Mitsumov’s ones
VK> firewood that can change the scrolling step. They turned out to have a feature - if
VK> keep the button pressed for more than two seconds - it is locked while pressed
VK> state and to let go, you need to click again. I don't like that
VK> used to it.
VK> What do you recommend?
I supply firewood for everyone from a4tech.
everything can be configured there.
in particular, enable standard scrolling by pressing the wheel.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
Hello Valerij!
Tue, 16 Nov 04 at 15:13, Valerij Kozhevnikoff -> All:
VK> state and to let go, you need to click again.
It's my hands that are crooked. It is necessary to supply standard firewood and prohibit it from
“click fixation”, then put back the Mitsumov ones. Works. Only in
Quake has become impossible to play even with standard wood, because with fast
her movements feel as if she doesn’t have enough beats. At slow
movements - everything is as usual. If it is fast, it is lost.
And why do the settings of one firewood affect neighboring ones? Bagofich?
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17 Nov 04 05:40, Valerij Kozhevnikoff -> Valerij Kozhevnikoff:
VK> And why do the settings of one firewood affect neighboring ones? Bagofich?
But because there is actually no firewood for the mouse except from MS ;)
All these so-called firewood are usually only fine tuners of standard
firewood
Dragging scrolling is native to Windows. But it's turned off. With some mice
Windows itself assigns it to the 3rd button. And with some he doesn’t prescribe. Then this
You can do it manually in the registry.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
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On Thu, 18 Nov 04 15:00:16 +0300, Eugene Palenock wrote:
EP> Scrolling is native to Windows. But it's turned off. With some
EP> with mice, Windows itself assigns it to the 3rd button. And with some he doesn’t prescribe.
EP> Then this can be done manually in the registry.
What should be included there? I've never seen it. There is a 5-button mouse,
Only two buttons work. “Firewood” doesn’t add anything, that is, at all
nothing, although they should, as it is written there. Yes, Windows - disguised
XP (aka Server 2003).
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21 Nov 04 00:24, Kirill Frolov -> Eugene Palenock:
EP>> Scrolling is native to Windows. But it's turned off. S
EP>> with some mice, Windows itself assigns it to the 3rd button. And with
EP>> does not assign to some. Then you can do this manually in the registry.
KF> What should be included there? I've never seen it.
I don't remember.
KF> There is a 5-button mouse, only two buttons work.
3 button turns on.
But 4 and 5 - in principle, Windows has their scancode, but it’s not in the kernel
processed, but you can accept it into your window and do some
actions (i.e. there needs to be an invisible window at a minimum).
KF> "Firewood" does not add anything, that is
KF> nothing at all, although they should, as it is written there.
Install firewood from A4Tech for the WOP35 family of mice.
KF> Yes, Windows is XP in disguise (aka Server 2003).
Why does a server need a 5 button mouse?
I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why it’s not installed there.
In particular, in 2003 enterprise (and they usually steal to the maximum, without thinking) no
support for various peripherals such as IrDA...
Best regards, Evgeniy.
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_November 16, 2004_, *_Valerij Kozhevnikoff*_ wrote to *_All*_:
VK> PS: Mouseimp is a gadget that allows you to grab with the right button
VK> for the picture and scroll it in any direction.
It doesn’t work in Opera above 6.5 :( I’ve been using it for a long time if it weren’t for Opera and
I wouldn’t change the mouse optics that came on sale.
We'll write again /_Valerij!/_!
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On Tue, 23 Nov 04 03:37:48 +0300, Eugene Palenock wrote:
KF>> There is a 5-button mouse, only two buttons work.
EP> 3 button turns on.
Where? For example, I want to paste on the middle button, like in unix.
KF>> Yes, Windows is XP in disguise (aka Server 2003).
EP> Why does the server need a 5-button mouse?
Then it's a workstation.
EP> I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why it’s not placed there.
EP> In particular, in 2003 enterprise (and they usually steal to the maximum, without thinking)
EP> no support for various peripherals such as IrDA...
But: 1) it is English - this is important, because in the Russian version
It's impossible to use hotkeys in menus - surprisingly,
but I've never seen an English w2k - does such a thing even exist?
2) it works, subjectively, several times faster, which is also
explainable; 3) it has (almost) all the drivers included and included
in particular, the video card driver is missing in all other NT;
4) it has a terminal service; 5) it has a built-in media player,
zip archiver and image viewer, which was not available in previous versions,
and also explorer has become much more usable. Practically this is
the first Windows I've seen, when working with which you don't want to spit inscreen.
Hello Kirill!
14 Jan 05 01:39, Kirill Frolov -> Eugene Palenock:
KF>>> There is a 5-button mouse, only two buttons work.
EP>> 3 button turns on.
KF> Where? For example, I want to paste on the middle button, like in unix.
www.a4tech.com
download and install the drivers for the WOP35 mouse (they are actually universal).
There you can reassign any buttons, except for the main one.
KF> But: 1) it is English - this is important, because in the Russian version
KF> it is impossible to use hotkeys in menus - surprisingly
They work for me...
KF> but I've never seen an English w2k - does such a thing even exist?
Exists.
KF> 2) it works, subjectively, several times faster, which is also
KF> explainable;
It can't be like that.
KF> 3) it has (almost) all the drivers included
KF> in particular, the video card driver is missing in all other NT;
Which one is this?
KF> 4) it has a terminal service;
It is also available in XP, in the form of RDC.
KF> 5) it has a built-in media player
He always was.
KF> zip archiver and image viewer,
And this is all portable ;)By the way, I tore them off...
Best regards, Evgeniy.
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On Fri, 14 Jan 05 10:13:38 +0300, Eugene Palenock wrote:
KF>> But: 1) it is English - this is important, because in the Russian version
KF>> it is impossible to use hotkeys in menus - surprisingly
EP> They work for me...
They are working. But it is impossible to use them. People who have
By default, the Russian layout is enabled, it’s hard to understand. I want, for example,
so that the windows move not when you press the Russian “P”, but when you press the English one
"m". Or “Start” also: you need to press Ctrl-Esc, then “P” in Russian
layout, then the name of the program, usually in English. Creepy.
KF>> 2) it works, subjectively, several times faster, which is also
KF>> explainable;
EP> This cannot be.
If necessary, I'll measure it with a stopwatch...
KF>> 3) it has (almost) all the drivers included
KF>> in particular, the video card driver is missing in all other NT;
EP> What is this?
Intergraphics canaris 2000.
KF>> 4) it has a terminal service;
EP> It is also available in XP, in the form of RDC.
In the form of what? It is available in non-server versions, like home edition,professional, etc. shouldn't exist. Third parties are not interested
in general.
KF>> 5) it has a built-in media player
EP> He always was.
Previously, he couldn’t even play mp3, and there was no built-in
color music.
KF>> zip archiver and image viewer,
EP> And this is all portable;) By the way, I tore them off...
Where is it transferred from and to? I see that the picture is in W2k
You can only look at it with iexplore, and only one piece at a time.
That is, there is no thumbnail view. Even in Linux there are dozens of such programs,
but not in W2k. It finally appeared in W2k3.
I also like the intelligent program selector that
The file opens. Previously, you had to go through the registry with your hands and
control what a specific file opens. And here - automatically.
Hello Kirill!
16 Jan 05 02:25, Kirill Frolov -> Eugene Palenock:
KF>>> But: 1) it is English - this is important, because in Russian
KF>>> version it is impossible to use hotkeys in menus --
KF>>> amazing
EP>> They work for me...
KF> They work. But it is impossible to use them. People who
KF> the Russian layout is enabled by default, it’s hard to understand. I want, for example,
KF> so that windows move not by pressing the Russian "P", but by pressing the English one
KF> "m".
Install PuntoSwitcher, it automatically switches the layout for the menu.
www.punto.ru
KF>>> 4) it has a terminal service;
EP>> It is also available in XP, in the form of RDC.
KF> In the form of what?
Remote Desktop Connection.
KF> It is in non-server versions, like home edition,
KF> professional, etc. should not exist.
It doesn't seem to be in Home. Pro has it.
KF>>> 5) it has a built-in media player
EP>> He always was.
KF> He didn’t even know how to play mp3 before
mp3 he played back in 98se... KF> I see that the picture is in W2k
KF> you can only look at iexplore, and only one piece at a time.
KF> That is, there is no thumbnail view. Even in Linux there are dozens of such programs
KF> but not in W2k. Finally appeared in W2k3.
It appeared in 2003 aka XP ;)
KF> I also like the intelligent program selector
KF> opens the file. Previously, you had to climb into the registry with your hands and
KF> control how a specific file is opened. And here - automatically.
It's exactly the same in XP.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
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On 16 Jan 05, Kirill Frolov wrote to Eugene Palenock:
KF>>> zip archiver and image viewer,
EP>> And this is all portable;) By the way, I tore them off...
KF> Where is it portable from and to? I see that the picture is in W2k
KF> you can only look at iexplore, and only one piece at a time.
KF> That is, there is no thumbnail view. Even in Linux there are dozens of such programs
KF> but not in W2k. Finally appeared in W2k3.
Another fairy tale? The GUI has never been PART of Linux. Therefore, in Linux there is NO
GUI programs that can show something in the thumbnail view.
Something has gotten you into a rut lately. You hang noodles on everyone and everyone
reasons. If you try to treat about distribution kits, then think about whether you have even seen
once a Windows distribution kit with a set of additional software? If you haven't seen it, it's not
means they don't exist. They are. :)
KF> I also like the intelligent program selector
KF> opens the file. Previously, you had to climb into the registry with your hands and
KF> control how a specific file is opened. And here - automatically.
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On Sun, 16 Jan 05 10:11:27 +0300, Sergey Zotov wrote:
KF>>>> zip archiver and image viewer
EP>>> And this is all portable;) By the way, I tore them off...
KF>> Where is it portable from and to? I see that the picture is in W2k
KF>> you can only look at iexplore, and only one piece at a time.
KF>> That is, there is no thumbnail view. Even in Linux there are dozens of such programs
KF>> but not in W2k. Finally appeared in W2k3.
SZ> Another fairy tale? The GUI has never been PART of Linux. Therefore, in Linux NO
What Linux? Maybe the one from kernel.org was not there.
And in mandrake, slackware, red hat, debian, asp linux, alt linux and suse - it was.
I saw it with my own eyes. Hint: we are not talking about “Linux”, but about the operating system
system, for example "Mandrake Linux". Two big differences.
SZ> human programs that can show something in the thumbnail view.
The final apotheosis... Apparently, you also haven’t seen anything other than Linux 1.0?
SZ> Something has hit you lately. You hang noodles on everyone and everyone
SZ> reasons.
Sounds especially impressive in the context of the above quoted... SZ> If you try to treat about distribution kits, then think about whether you have even seen
SZ> is it a Windows distribution kit with a set of additional software?
Officially published by Microsoft - I haven't seen it.
SZ> means that there are none. They are. :)
This is pirated software. There are viruses, I'm afraid of them, they will spoil me
computer.
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On 17 Jan 05, Kirill Frolov wrote to Sergey Zotov:
SZ>> Another fairy tale? The GUI has never been PART of Linux. Therefore B
SZ>> Linux NO
KF> What Linux? Maybe the one from kernel.org was not there.
KF> And in mandrake, slackware, red hat, debian, asp linux, alt linux and suse --
KF> was. I saw it with my own eyes. Hint: we are not talking about "Linux", but about
KF> operating system, for example "Mandrake Linux". Two big differences.
The same "X" is a separate independent project that is not directly related
to none of the distributions. The same "Mandrake Linux" is just a package
the same OS.
SZ>> human programs that can do something in the thumbnail view
SZ>> show.
KF> The final apotheosis... Apparently, you also haven’t seen anything other than Linux 1.0?
Yes, no, of course. :) You are one of us who has seen everything! =) And the fact that the Earth is square
By default, since you haven’t seen it, that’s cool too.
SZ>> If you try to treat about distribution kits, then think about whether you have seen
SZ>> at least once a Windows distribution kit with a set of additional software? KF> Officially published by Microsoft - haven't seen it.
So which Linux distribution is the official one?
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17 Jan 05, 02:28, Kirill Frolov wrote to Sergey Zotov on the topic "Re: firewood
mouse":
SZ>> Another fairy tale? The GUI has never been PART of Linux. Therefore, in Linux
SZ>> NO
KF> What Linux? Maybe the one from kernel.org was not there.
KF> And in mandrake, slackware, red hat, debian, asp linux, alt linux and suse --
KF> was. I saw it with my own eyes. Hint: we are not talking about “Linux”, but about the operating system
KF> system, for example "Mandrake Linux". Two big differences.
In this case, I can say that FAR and TC are part of Windows.
Happy connections. Roman.
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On Mon, 17 Jan 05 11:04:51 +0300, Roman Alexandrov wrote:
KF>> I saw it with my own eyes. Hint: we are not talking about “Linux”, but about the operating system
KF>> system, for example "Mandrake Linux". Two big differences.
RA> In this case, I can say that FAR and TC are part of Windows.
When I install from the mandrake linux disk I have a viewer
pictures. When I install from the W2k disk, it doesn't exist. When I bet
W2k3 - it's there again. From the point of view of a simple user, it turns out that
W2k does not have image viewers. And search for this
xnview and then various cracks - well, what the heck...
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On Sun, 16 Jan 05 07:02:54 +0300, Eugene Palenock wrote:
KF>> They work. But it is impossible to use them. People who
KF>> the Russian layout is enabled by default, it’s hard to understand. I want, for example,
KF>> so that windows move not by pressing the Russian "P", but by pressing the English one
KF>> "m".
EP> Install PuntoSwitcher, it automatically switches the layout for the menu.
EP> www.punto.ru
It switches not only for the menu - I don't need THAT... In addition,
The issue is not switching layouts. I somehow don’t associate
Russian names “move”, “maximize”, “resize” have nothing to do with anything... And besides,
I use YAVERTS - punto won't handle that.
KF>>>> 4) it has a terminal service;
EP>>> It is also available in XP, in the form of RDC.
KF>> In the form of what?
EP> Remote Desktop Connection.
KF>> It is in non-server versions, like home edition,
KF>> professional, etc. should not exist.
EP> It seems like it’s not in Home. Pro has it.
In W2k - no. Where is it?
KF>> I see that the picture is in W2k KF>> you can only look at iexplore, and only one piece at a time.
KF>> That is, there is no thumbnail view. Even in Linux there are dozens of such programs
KF>> but not in W2k. Finally appeared in W2k3.
EP> It appeared in 2003 aka XP ;)
That's why I'm excited about W2k3. There is no need to look for any pirated
CDs with crakz just to look at (and print well!)
picture.
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On Mon, 17 Jan 05 08:03:47 +0300, Sergey Zotov wrote:
SZ>>> If you try to treat about distribution kits, then think about whether you have seen
SZ>>> at least once a Windows distribution kit with a set of additional software?
KF>> Officially published by Microsoft - haven’t seen it.
SZ> So which Linux distribution is the official one?
Exclusively Debian.
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On 18 Jan 05, Kirill Frolov wrote to Sergey Zotov:
SZ>>>> If you try to treat about distribution kits, then think about whether you have seen
SZ>>>> at least once a Windows distribution kit with a set of additional software?
KF>>> Officially published by Microsoft - haven’t seen it.
SZ>> So which Linux distribution is the official one?
KF> Exclusively Debian.
Is it assembled by Linus Torvalds himself? Where can you verify this? give me url.
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On 18 Jan 05, Kirill Frolov wrote to Eugene Palenock:
EP>> Install PuntoSwitcher, it switches automatically for the menu
EP>> layout. www.punto.ru
KF> It switches not only for the menu - I don’t need THAT... Besides
KF> the issue is not switching layouts. I somehow don’t associate
KF> with nothing Russian names "move", "maximize", "resize"... And besides,
KF> I use YAVERTS - punto won't handle that.
Have you already tried or haven't even seen PS like Proxomitron? I feel the same way about PS
no complaints.
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On Tue, 18 Jan 05 07:46:38 +0300, Sergey Zotov wrote:
EP>>> Install PuntoSwitcher, it switches automatically for the menu
EP>>> layout. www.punto.ru
KF>> It switches not only for the menu - I don’t need THAT... Besides
KF>> the issue is not switching layouts. I somehow don’t associate
KF>> with nothing Russian names "move", "maximize", "resize"... And besides,
KF>> I use YAVERTS - punto will not tolerate this.
SZ> Have you already tried or haven’t even seen PS like Proxomitron?
Unfortunately, I saw it.
SZ> I also have no complaints about PS.
Have you tried it yourself? It is impossible to type non-Russian texts in it.
Moreover, in principle, he cannot guarantee the correct operation
in a number of programs (hint: Vim in "normal" mode).
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On Tue, 18 Jan 05 07:44:45 +0300, Sergey Zotov wrote:
SZ>>>>> at least once a Windows distribution kit with a set of additional software?
KF>>>> Officially published by Microsoft - haven’t seen it.
SZ>>> So which Linux distribution is the official one?
KF>> Exclusively Debian.
SZ> Is it assembled by Linus Torvalds himself? Where can you verify this? url give.
dict allegory
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On 19 Jan 05, Kirill Frolov wrote to Sergey Zotov:
SZ>> I also have no complaints about PS.
KF> Have you tried it yourself?
I have been using it constantly since October 2004 both at work and at home.
KF> It is impossible to type non-Russian texts in it.
I regularly write letters to the bourgeoisie in English. No discomfort.
KF> Moreover, in principle it cannot guarantee correctness
KF> work in a number of programs (hint: Vim in "normal" mode).
Disable language switching for vim if you have problems with it. I have it disabled
switching for sql client and putty because both are used only
English syntax.
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18 Jan 05 01:41, Kirill Frolov -> Eugene Palenock:
KF>>>>> 4) it has a terminal service;
EP>>>> It is also available in XP, in the form of RDC.
KF>>> In the form of what?
EP>> Remote Desktop Connection.
KF>>> It is in non-server versions, like home edition,
KF>>> professional, etc. should not exist.
EP>> It seems to be missing from Home. Pro has it.
KF> In W2k - no. Where is it?
In XP-Pro - yes.
KF>>> I see that the picture is in W2k
KF>>> you can only look at iexplore, and only one piece at a time.
KF>>> That is, there is no thumbnail view. Even in Linux there are dozens of such programs
KF>>> but not in W2k. Finally appeared in W2k3.
EP>> It appeared in 2003 aka XP ;)
KF> That's why W2k3 makes me happy. There is no need to look for any
KF> pirated discs with crakz just for that
But you need to look for pirated software for it in order to either disguise it as
non-server, or look for server versions of different firewalls and antiviruses.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
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On 20 Jan 05, Kirill Frolov wrote to Sergey Zotov:
KF> And besides, nothing will help me, probably YAVERTS.
Why then are you indignant that it’s inconvenient to work? There are ready-made tools -
use it. If you can't, write your own. If you don't know how, go to the morgue.
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On Wed, 19 Jan 05 15:16:22 +0300, Eugene Palenock wrote:
KF>>>> It is in non-server versions, like home edition,
KF>>>> professional, etc. should not exist.
EP>>> It seems like it’s not in Home. Pro has it.
KF>> In W2k - no. Where is it?
EP> In XP-Pro - yes.
How many dollars is this?
KF>>>> That is, there is no thumbnail view. Even in Linux there are dozens of such programs
KF>>>> but not in W2k. Finally appeared in W2k3.
EP>>> It appeared in 2003 aka XP ;)
KF>> That's why W2k3 makes me happy. There is no need to look for any
KF>> pirated discs with crakz just for that purpose
EP> But you need to look for pirated software for it in order to either disguise it as
EP> non-server, or look for server versions of different firewalls and antiviruses.
I would gladly exchange W2k3 server for w2k3 workstation...
By the way, it turned out here that the copied pirated disk w2k3 is not
works, unlike the original! Pirates have reached release
copy-protected discs? I'll try again... :-/
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On Thu, 20 Jan 05 13:45:03 +0300, Sergey Zotov wrote:
KF>> And besides, nothing will help me, probably YAVERTS.
SZ> Why then are you indignant that it’s inconvenient to work?
Because it's really not convenient. I generally have LANG=en everywhere,
LC_CTYPE=en. In addition to some programs for which English-language
The interface is clearly inconvenient. For example, for Gimp.
SZ> There are ready-made tools - use them. If you can’t, write your own.
“I could drink all the dirt of the ganga...” (C) Nemo.
SZ> If you don’t know how, go to the morgue.
The problems of Russefecators are not my problems.
Hello Kirill!
21 Jan 05 21:53, Kirill Frolov -> Eugene Palenock:
KF>>>>> That is, there is no thumbnail view. Even in Linux there are dozens of them
KF>>>>> programs, but not in W2k. It finally appeared in W2k3.
EP>>>> It appeared in 2003 aka XP ;)
KF>>> That's why W2k3 makes me happy. There is no need to look for any
KF>>> pirated discs with crakz just for that purpose
EP>> But you need to look for pirated software for it in order to either disguise it
EP>> for a non-server, or look for server versions of different firewalls and
EP>> antiviruses.
KF> I would gladly exchange W2k3 server for w2k3 workstation...
workstation for w2k3 is xp-pro ;)
KF> By the way, it turned out here that the copied pirated w2k3 disk is not
KF> works, unlike the original!
How's that?
KF> Have pirates gone so far as to release copy-protected discs?
More likely, they made a crooked multi-booter there...
Best regards, Evgeniy.
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On Sat, 22 Jan 05 00:32:14 +0300, Eugene Palenock wrote:
KF>> I would gladly exchange W2k3 server for w2k3 workstation...
EP> workstation for w2k3 - this is xp-pro ;)
No. In XP there are these nasty little blue panels and green buttons.
I don’t want to, they disgust me.
KF>> By the way, it turned out here that the copied pirated disk w2k3 is not
KF>> works, unlike the original!
EP> How's that?
Freezes. Even if you run winnt.exe from DOS. :-/
KF>> Have pirates gone so far as to release copy-protected discs?
EP> More likely, they made a crooked multi-loader there...
The bootloader is just starting.