modems are different...
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Hello All!
Which modems fit these conditions:
- defining no_dialtone (or line_in_use) without grabbing the handset;
- Voice;
- V92/V44;
- good V34;
- USB (or PCI, but so that the LEDs are displayed on the face of the computer!);
- many LEDs (rd, sd, arq, cd, oh, cs, tr at least);
Best regards, Evgeniy.
Press RESET immediately, Eugene Palenock!
On Tue, 27 Jul 04 00:51:46 +0400, Eugene Palenock wrote:
EP> Which modems fit these conditions:
EP> - definition of no_dialtone (or line_in_use) without grabbing the handset;
EP> - Voice;
EP> - V92/V44;
EP> - good V34;
EP> - USB (or PCI, but so that the LEDs are displayed on the face of the computer!);
EP> - many LEDs (rd, sd, arq, cd, oh, cs, tr at least);
1) internal only, PCI only.
2) Naturally iron. With iron transformer and iron relay.
3) Meets Soviet standards in the field of communications.
4) V34 is enough.
5) Fax, Voice, etc. - not necessary. No light bulbs needed.
6) *NO GLITCHES*
7) absence of any drivers.
8) connection quality is averagely lousy (if step 6 is performed)
9) cheap.
10) reachable.
?
Hello, Kirill!
04 Aug 04, 15:07, Kirill Frolov wrote to Eugene Palenock on the topic "Re:
modems are different...":
KF> 1) internal only, PCI only.
KF> 7) absence of any drivers.
These two points are incompatible.
Happy connections. Roman.
Hello Kirill!
04 Aug 04 15:07, Kirill Frolov -> Eugene Palenock:
KF> 1) internal only, PCI only.
KF> 7) absence of any drivers.
All points are there, except 7. It is impossible to have a PCI device without drivers (unless
choose exactly the modem for which the firewood is already built into Windows)
Best regards, Evgeniy.
Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov!
On Thu, 05 Aug 04 09:36:29 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote:
KF>> 1) internal only, PCI only.
KF>> 7) absence of any drivers.
RA> These two points are incompatible.
Well, you don’t have to be a Win-Lamer. Nothing prevents you from making a modem exactly
the same as on the ISA, only on the PCI bus. The only thing is that
it's plug and play becomes a must.
There are such modems, they are visible in the system as a regular COM port, only
perhaps with an unusual address. Driver, of course it can be included
included, not needed.
And in Windows there is a driver for everything. Even on a mouse pad. But you have to
understand that one is different from the other. In this case, the "driver" functions
performs the standard serial port driver, and other functions
drivers - TAPI interface, there is no way around this.
Actually that's not the point. The point is, there's a lot of stuff for sale.
obscenity practically unsuitable for practical use.
A server burned through a modem, or installed by a crooked driver is
no good. I look from this position.
Hello, Kirill!
06 Aug 04, 09:38, Kirill Frolov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "Re:
modems are different...":
KF>>> 1) internal only, PCI only.
KF>>> 7) absence of any drivers.
RA>> These two points are incompatible.
KF> Well, you don’t need to be a Win-Lamer. Nothing prevents you from making a modem accurately
KF> is the same as on the ISA, only on the PCI bus. The only thing is that
KF> this plug and play becomes mandatory.
The only thing is that it is not visible in hardware as a COM port, unlike ISA ports,
which as COM are visible even from the BIOS.
KF> There are such modems, they are visible in the system as a regular COM port, only
KF> perhaps with an unusual address. A driver, of course it can be included
KF> included, not needed.
It may not be needed, but it won't work without it :)
As a matter of fact, not even a single PCI card with additional COM and LPT ports
does not work without drivers from the manufacturer (although it is recognized), with hard PCI
modems are the same story.
Happy connections. Roman.
Let your enemies, Roman, die without sons!
07 Aug 2004 at 01:00, Roman Alexandrov => Kirill Frolov:
RA> It may not be needed, but it doesn’t work without it :)
RA> As a matter of fact, not even a single PCI card with additional COM and
RA> LPT ports without drivers from the manufacturer do not work (although
RA> is recognized), the same story with hard PCI modems.
I recommend that you both read the article on ixbt “Are there “hardware” PCI modems and
Do they need drivers for Windows?
The exact name is, the url, unfortunately, has not been preserved. possible:
http://ixbt.com/comm/mdmabout2.html
or .shtml, or .shtml.html...
If you have read it, then your argument is completely incomprehensible to me...
WBR, Oleg.
Hello, Oleg!
07 Aug 04, 14:54, Oleg Grigoriev wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "modems
different...":
RA>> It may not be needed, but it won’t work without it :)
RA>> As a matter of fact, not even a single PCI card with additional COM and
RA>> LPT ports without drivers from the manufacturer do not work (although
RA>> is recognized), the same story with hard PCI modems.
OG> I recommend both to read the article on ixbt “Are there “hardware” PCI
OG> modems and do they need drivers for Windows?
Well, how do my words contradict what is written there?
Happy connections. Roman.
Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov!
On Sun, 08 Aug 04 10:38:58 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote:
OG>> I recommend that you both read the article on ixbt “Are there “hardware” PCI
OG>> modems and do they need drivers for Windows?
RA> Well, how do my words contradict what is written there?
> As a matter of fact, not even a single PCI card with additional COM and LPT
> does not work with ports without drivers from the manufacturer (although it is recognized), with
> with hard PCI modems the same story.
Hello, Kirill!
09 Aug 04, 00:41, Kirill Frolov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "Re:
modems are different...":
OG>>> I recommend that you both read the article on ixbt “Are there “hardware” PCI
OG>>> modems and do they need drivers for Windows?
RA>> Well, how do my words contradict what is written there?
>> As a matter of fact, not even a single PCI card with additional COM and LPT
>> does not work with ports without drivers from the manufacturer (although it is recognized), with
>> with hard PCI modems the same story.
As far as I understood from reading this article (maybe not entirely
attentive), These same modems are still without dancing with a tambourine and additional
fossils do not work.
Happy connections. Roman.
Let your enemies, Roman, die without sons!
08 Aug 2004 at 11:38, Roman Alexandrov => Oleg Grigoriev:
OG>> I recommend both to read the article on ixbt "Are there
OG>> “hardware” PCI modems and do they need drivers for Windows?
RA> Well, how do my words contradict what is written there?
but they _almost_ do not contradict.
WBR, Oleg.