Microsoft makes Windows XP authentication mandatory

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From Wladimir Bulchukey To All 27 July 2005

=== Cut === Microsoft makes Windows XP authentication mandatory when updating 07/26/2005, 19:45:46 Microsoft is introducing updates as part of the service via Internet of your operating system Windows XP mandatory checking the authenticity of the installed copy of this system. Previously the inspection was voluntary, now, as it is implemented special anti-piracy program Windows Genuine Advantage, launched last September, verification will become mandatory. Windows XP users who decide to update the system via Internet, will undergo a special determination procedure authenticity, and if it is established that the visitor is using pirated version, he will be offered a choice of two options. In the first option, the user will be prompted provide documents proving the purchase of counterfeit goods disk, and the disk itself is at the disposal of Microsoft. This will allow him get a free copy of the system in the Home version or Professional (retail price first - $199, second - $299 dollars). As part of the second option, the user will have to fill out online questionnaire, describing the circumstances of the acquisition illegal copy, and also send the disc. Users like reports Associated Press, will be able to obtain legal copies of the OS via halved price.Also, according to Reuters, Microsoft announced that legal Windows users will no longer be required to enter 25-digit product code - instead the system will itself check your computer hardware and determine if one copy of the OS on several different computers. However, CNet News reports that users not authenticated will still be given the ability to download the most critical in terms of system security update. URL: http://lenta.ru/news/2005/07/26/stepup/ since 2004 Lenta.ru === Cut ===

From Kirill Frolov To Wladimir Bulchukey 30 July 2005

Press RESET immediately, Wladimir Bulchukey! On Wed, 27 Jul 05 08:23:39 +0400, Wladimir Bulchukey wrote: WB> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication WB> when updating Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie at exorbitant prices.

From Roman Alexandrov To Kirill Frolov 30 July 2005

Hello, Kirill! 30 Jul 05, 01:02, Kirill Frolov wrote to Wladimir Bulchukey on the topic "Re: Microsoft is introducing mandatory Windows XP authentication": WB>> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication WB>> when updating KF> Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie KF> exorbitantly expensive. 1) Patches will still be available, only updates of all kinds are closed prog. 2) Already broken. 3) Pirates still won’t go anywhere, well, they will release CDs with updates, and on the Internet everything will be on Varezniki. So a freebie will still remain a freebie. Happy connections. Roman.

From Kirill Frolov To Roman Alexandrov 31 July 2005

Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov! On Sat, 30 Jul 05 09:29:10 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote: WB>>> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication WB>>> when updating KF>> Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie KF>> exorbitantly expensive. RA> 1) Patches will still be available, only updates of any kind are closed RA> prog. I hope this is just the beginning. RA> 2) Already broken. You yourself understand that it is broken only because there is a will for it Bill and nothing more. From the technical side, it’s not a problem to stop all this disgrace at one moment. Because, for example, if Vasya Pupkin is not given something broken, then there won't be any. And someone can take this place. Of course Bill is not particularly interested in Vasya. But Vasya Pupkin will lead with him Fedya Glupkin, and Fedya someone else. Take the education sector for example. It is obvious that if a student was taught N years using Microsoft products then with a very high probability, after these N years, these products will be be actively implemented practically. Which is what we are seeing. It is also obvious that Almost everywhere there is illegal installation stolen software. Microsoft, by the way, has opened an anonymous “hotline”for such cases. This is not easy. As the market becomes saturated, this is my opinion, they will tighten more nuts in order to squeeze as much as possible out of the consumer. In the absence You can squeeze out more of any alternative. RA> 3) Pirates still won’t go anywhere, well, they will release CDs RA> updates, and on the Internet everything will be on Varezniki. In my entire life I have only bought a couple of pirated discs and each times I was quite disappointed. In the sense that he doesn’t have his $2/640MB it was worth it. With the possible exception of "multimedia" content - I There’s simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but MP3s can be played on a computer. Who will release it? The “pirates” themselves cannot release anything. They can only copy. Real production, even hacking, is expensive. And I don't think that at $2/640MB it pays off. Here everything is much more cunning, IMHO. How actively distributed (obviously again, that all this can be stopped simply) various bases data, like free internet - it's just a by-product of something something else that we may not be able to understand. RA> So the freebie will still remain a freebie. THERE ARE NO FREE FEES! Either it’s bad, worthless freebie. Or you'll have to pay. The only question is what and how.

From Roman Alexandrov To Kirill Frolov 1 August 2005

Hello, Kirill! 31 Jul 05, 01:13, Kirill Frolov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "Microsoft is introducing mandatory Windows XP authentication": WB>>>> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication WB>>>> when updating KF>>> Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie KF>>> exorbitantly expensive. RA>> 1) Patches will still be available, only updates are closed RA>> all kinds of programs. KF> I hope this is just the beginning. Unlikely. RA>> 2) Already broken. KF> You yourself understand that it is broken only because there is a will KF> Bill and nothing more. From the technical side, it’s not a problem to stop KF> all this disgrace at one moment. And I don’t care whose will, there is and there is.... KF> It is also obvious that KF> almost everywhere there is illegal installation KF> stolen software. Read the Criminal Code on the definition of the concept of “theft.” RA>> 3) Pirates still won’t go anywhere, well, they will release CDs with RA>> updates, and everything on the Internet will be on Varezniki. KF> In my entire life I have bought only a couple of pirated discs and each one KF> times I was very disappointed. In the sense that it doesn’t have its own $2/640MByte KF> was worth it. Apparently I bought the wrong wheels. KF> With the possible exception of "multimedia" content - to me KF> there is simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but you can listen to MP3 on a computer. Let me tell you a secret: CDs can also be listened to on your computer. KF> Who will release it? The “pirates” themselves cannot release anything. They KF> can only copy. Real production, even hacking KF> is expensive. And I don’t think that at $2/640MB it pays off. I'm not sure that pirates are doing charity work, which means it pays off. RA>> So the freebie will still remain a freebie. Happy connections. Roman.

From Alexander Bondarenko To Kirill Frolov 1 August 2005

*Hello, Kirill!* Catch my ideas about the subject "Re: Microsoft introduces mandatory verification authenticity of Windows XP", which your footcloth to comrade rattled about on Jul 30, 2005. Wladimir Bulchukey. WB>> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication WB>> when updating KF> Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie KF> exorbitantly expensive. Then it won’t be a freebie, but a suck. /That’s all, Kirill, you can scroll further.../

From Kirill Frolov To Alexander Bondarenko 11 August 2005

Press RESET immediately, Alexander Bondarenko! On Mon, 01 Aug 05 17:00:40 +0400, Alexander Bondarenko wrote: WB>>> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication WB>>> when updating KF>> Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie KF>> exorbitantly expensive. AB> Then it won't be a freebie, but a suck. Otherwise - communism. In the most disgusting sense this word.

From Kirill Frolov To Roman Alexandrov 2 September 2005

Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov! On Sun, 31 Jul 05 23:35:33 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote: KF>> You yourself understand that it is broken only because there is a will KF>> Bill and nothing more. From the technical side, it’s not a problem to stop KF>> all this disgrace at one moment. RA> And I don’t care whose will, there is and there is.... Pervaya doza - free... KF>> almost everywhere there is illegal installation KF>> stolen software. RA> Read the Criminal Code on the definition of the concept of "theft". Na ehto otdel'naya stat'ya est'. Uzhe i novyj zakon where-to s god back prinyali, where otvetstvennost' perelozhili na *fizicheskikh lic*. Ehto zhe nesporsta. KF>> In my entire life I have bought only a couple of pirated discs and each KF>> times I was quite disappointed. In the sense that it doesn’t have its own $2/640MByte KF>> was worth it. RA> Apparently I bought the wrong wheels. Net, ehto kachestvo halyava-wareza takoe. Podgotovka ehtih diskov -- ehto tozhe rabota, kotoraya stoit money. Piratam v ehto vkladyvat'sya ne vygodno. KF>> With the possible exception of "multimedia" content - to me KF>> there is simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but you can listen to MP3 on a computer. RA> Let me tell you a secret: CDs can also be listened to on your computer. Shnurok special'nyj imet' nado. KF>> can only copy. Real production, even hacking KF>> is expensive. And I don’t think that at $2/640MB it pays off. RA> I'm not sure that pirates are engaged in charity, which means it pays off. Ehto te kotorye na kazhdom uglu diski prodayut? Oni ne piratey.

From Roman Alexandrov To Kirill Frolov 3 September 2005

Hello, Kirill! 02 Sep 05, 10:07, Kirill Frolov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "Microsoft is introducing mandatory Windows XP authentication": KF>>> You yourself understand that it is broken only because there is a will KF>>> Bill and nothing more. From the technical side, it’s not a problem to stop KF>>> all this disgrace at one moment. RA>> And I don’t care whose will, it is and is.... KF> Pervaya doza -- free... Is this some kind of demonstration of the capabilities of Linux? Bad advertising for Linux to write on Translate, usually I immediately send such messages to the trash without reading them, because I consider this to be mockery and disrespect for my person. KF>>> almost everywhere there is illegal installation KF>>> stolen software. RA>> Read the Criminal Code on the topic of defining the concept of "theft". KF> Na ehto otdel'naya stat'ya est'. Uzhe i novyj zakon gde-to s god nazad KF> prinyali, where otvetstvennost' perelozhili na *fizicheskikh lic*. Ehto zhe KF> nesporsta. There is no crime in using unlicensed software "Theft." KF>>> In my entire life I have bought only a couple of pirated discs and each KF>>> times I was very disappointed. In the sense that it doesn’t have its own $2/640MByte KF>>> it was worth it. RA>> Apparently I bought the wrong wheels. KF> Net, ehto kachestvo halyava-wareza takoe. Podgotovka ehtih diskov -- KF> ehto tozhe rabota, kotoraya stoit money. Piratam v ehto vkladyvat'sya KF> ne vygodno. I'm satisfied. besides, I usually try to buy not collections, but copies of licensed discs, again, I haven’t bought anything for a long time - Internet available. KF>>> With the possible exception of “multimedia” content - to me KF>>> there is simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but you can listen to MP3 on a computer. RA>> Let me tell you a secret: CDs can also be listened to on your computer. KF> Shnurok special'nyj imet' nado. Is this like another demonstration of the capabilities of Linux? I can play without any lace (of course there is one, but I was too lazy to install it, because I don’t listen to Audio CD). KF>>> can only copy. Real production, even hacking KF>>> is expensive. And I don’t think that at $2/640MB it pays off. RA>> I'm not sure that pirates are engaged in charity, that means RA>> pays off. KF> Ehto te kotorye na kazhdom uglu diski prodayut? Oni ne piraty. And we’re not talking about them. Happy connections. Roman.

From Kirill Frolov To Roman Alexandrov 4 September 2005

Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov! On Sat, 03 Sep 05 07:56:00 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote: RA>>> And I don’t care whose will, it is and is.... KF>> Pervaya doza -- free... RA> Is this some kind of demonstration of Linux capabilities? Bad advertising for Linux RA> write to Haha. This is a demonstration of the capabilities of a freshly installed W2k3. Where to install the normal (this is YAVERT) keyboard layout you need to be a bit of a hacker. KF>> There are separate articles for this. Already a new law about a year ago KF>> arrived, where responsibility was shifted to *individuals*. It's the same KF>> non-sports. RA> There is no corpus delicti in using unlicensed software RA> "Theft". Microsoft (1c too, these ones that make compass too) have very popularly explains why this theft is very bad and there are links that happens for. Typically - 0.5 year probation plus compensation for damage (~50 thousand rubles) This is if the amount of this same damage exceeds this 50k, by now it’s probably already higher - the minimum wage seems to have risen - the chances of being convicted have become less. KF>> No, this is the quality of halyava-warez. Preparing these disks -- KF>> this is also work that costs money. Pirates should invest in this CF>> not profitable. RA> I'm satisfied. besides, I usually try to buy not collections, but RA> copies of licensed discs, again, I haven’t bought anything for a long time - RA> Internet is available. That's right. Shareware and crackz are easier to find on the Internet. And cheaper. It's even easier to use free software whenever possible. KF>>>> With the possible exception of “multimedia” content - to me KF>>>> there is simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but you can listen to MP3 on KF>>>> computer. RA>>> I’m revealing a secret: CDs can also be listened to on a computer. KF>> You need to have a special lace. RA> Is this like another demonstration of the capabilities of Linux? I don’t know, I didn’t delve into it. I know, you can mount the disk as a file system with a set of tracks for robbing. But I don’t know how to listen. The record player plays on a string. However, Linux has no side here, It's more about the players.

From Roman Alexandrov To Kirill Frolov 4 September 2005

Hello, Kirill! 04 Sep 05, 01:57, Kirill Frolov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "Re: Microsoft is introducing mandatory Windows XP authentication": RA>>>> And I don’t care whose will, it is and is.... KF>>> Pervaya doza -- free... RA>> Is this some kind of demonstration of Linux capabilities? Bad advertising for Linux RA>> write to KF> Ha ha. This is a demonstration of the capabilities of a freshly installed W2k3. KF> Where to install the normal (this is YAVERT) keyboard layout KF> you need to be a little hacker. Use the standard layout - it makes life easier. KF>>> There are separate articles for this. Already a new law about a year ago KF>>> arrived, where responsibility was shifted to *individuals*. It's the same KF>>> non-sports. RA>> There is no crime in using unlicensed software RA>> called "Theft". KF> Microsoft (1c too, the ones that make the compass - too) has a lot on the site KF> popularly explains why this theft is very bad and there are links that KF> happens for. Typically - 0.5 year probation plus compensation for damage (~50 thousand. KF> rub.) This is if the amount of this same damage exceeds these 50k, now KF> probably already higher - the minimum wage seems to have risen - the chances of being convicted have become greater KF> less. I don’t care what is written on the Microsoft website, the main thing is what is written in the Criminal Code a crime which consists of using unlicensed software It is not _THEFT_. KF>>> No, this is the quality of halyava-warez. Preparing these disks -- KF>>> this is also work that costs money. Pirates should invest in this CF >>> not profitable. RA>> I'm satisfied. besides, I usually try to buy non-compilations RA>> and copies of licensed discs, again, I haven’t bought anything for a long time - RA>> Internet available. KF> That's right. Shareware and crackz are easier to find on the Internet. And KF> cheaper. It's even easier to use free software whenever possible. It’s easier for me to use the software that is simpler and more convenient, but what kind of software is it? I usually don’t pay attention to commercial, shavarny or frivolous.KF>>>>> With the possible exception of "multimedia" content - to me KF>>>>> there’s simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but MP3s can be played on KF>>>>> computer. RA>>>> I’m revealing a secret: CDs can also be listened to on a computer. KF>>> You need to have a special lace. RA>> Is this like another demonstration of the capabilities of Linux? KF> I don’t know, I didn’t delve into it. I know, you can mount the disk as a file KF> system with a set of tracks for robbing. For this, it is better to use special software - it is more reliable. KF> I don’t know how to listen. It is itself. KF> The player plays on a string. The Windows media player does not pay attention to the absence of a cord - it plays. Winamp too. Happy connections. Roman.

From Kirill Frolov To Roman Alexandrov 5 September 2005

Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov! On Sun, 04 Sep 05 11:47:04 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote: KF>>>> Pervaya doza -- free... RA>>> Is this some kind of demonstration of Linux capabilities? Bad advertising for Linux RA>>> write to KF>> Haha. This is a demonstration of the capabilities of a freshly installed W2k3. KF>> Where to install the normal (this is YAVERT) keyboard layout KF>> you need to be a little hacker. RA> Use the standard layout - it makes life easier. Use standard Windows - it makes life easier. Do like everyone else. To be like everyone else. Walk in formation... Maybe that's why I don't use it standard Windows and have no desire to learn simple complex layout. Moreover, it is not standard at all. Standard I have it drawn on my keyboard, it coincides with “Yatran” (it’s there where are the punctuation marks on the numbers). In Windows it’s different, NON-STANDARD. And the coding too. According to the ISO8859-5 standard. In Linux there is, by the way. KF>> That's right. Shareware and crackz are easier to find on the Internet. And KF>> cheaper. It's even easier to use free software whenever possible. RA> It’s easier for me to use the software that is simpler and more convenient, but which one RA> he, commercial, shavarny or frivolous, I usually don’t pay attention RA> please note. As a rule, the freebie is *easier to use*. It’s not a fact, of course, that he the software is better. You can use openoffice as an example. No need to run and search some disks, activations, serials, cracks... But it’s comatose on It's terribly impossible on a weak laptop. But it just exists and works. And M$ is all readonly after the 50th time. And also for the server version Windows running around looking for a server office is insanity, wild grin capitalism... KF>> The player plays on a string. RA> The Windows media player does not pay attention to the absence of a cord - it plays. RA> Winamp too. In Windows there is a daw for this matter. And the "laser player" is old, I'm not sure that he will behave correctly and not start playing in the traditional way.