From
Wladimir Bulchukey
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27 July 2005
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Microsoft makes Windows XP authentication mandatory
when updating
07/26/2005, 19:45:46
Microsoft is introducing updates as part of the service via
Internet of your operating system Windows XP mandatory
checking the authenticity of the installed copy of this system. Previously
the inspection was voluntary, now, as it is implemented
special anti-piracy program Windows Genuine Advantage,
launched last September, verification will become mandatory.
Windows XP users who decide to update the system via
Internet, will undergo a special determination procedure
authenticity, and if it is established that the visitor is using
pirated version, he will be offered a choice of two options.
In the first option, the user will be prompted
provide documents proving the purchase of counterfeit goods
disk, and the disk itself is at the disposal of Microsoft. This will allow him
get a free copy of the system in the Home version or
Professional (retail price first - $199, second - $299
dollars).
As part of the second option, the user will have to fill out
online questionnaire, describing the circumstances of the acquisition
illegal copy, and also send the disc. Users like
reports Associated Press, will be able to obtain legal copies of the OS via
halved price.Also, according to Reuters, Microsoft announced that
legal Windows users will no longer be required to enter
25-digit product code - instead the system will itself
check your computer hardware and determine if
one copy of the OS on several different computers.
However, CNet News reports that users
not authenticated will still be given
the ability to download the most critical in terms of system
security update.
URL: http://lenta.ru/news/2005/07/26/stepup/
since 2004 Lenta.ru
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From
Kirill Frolov
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Wladimir Bulchukey
30 July 2005
Press RESET immediately, Wladimir Bulchukey!
On Wed, 27 Jul 05 08:23:39 +0400, Wladimir Bulchukey wrote:
WB> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication
WB> when updating
Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie
at exorbitant prices.
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Kirill Frolov
30 July 2005
Hello, Kirill!
30 Jul 05, 01:02, Kirill Frolov wrote to Wladimir Bulchukey on the topic "Re:
Microsoft is introducing mandatory Windows XP authentication":
WB>> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication
WB>> when updating
KF> Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie
KF> exorbitantly expensive.
1) Patches will still be available, only updates of all kinds are closed
prog.
2) Already broken.
3) Pirates still won’t go anywhere, well, they will release CDs with
updates, and on the Internet everything will be on Varezniki.
So a freebie will still remain a freebie.
Happy connections. Roman.
From
Kirill Frolov
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Roman Alexandrov
31 July 2005
Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov!
On Sat, 30 Jul 05 09:29:10 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote:
WB>>> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication
WB>>> when updating
KF>> Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie
KF>> exorbitantly expensive.
RA> 1) Patches will still be available, only updates of any kind are closed
RA> prog.
I hope this is just the beginning.
RA> 2) Already broken.
You yourself understand that it is broken only because there is a will for it
Bill and nothing more. From the technical side, it’s not a problem to stop
all this disgrace at one moment.
Because, for example, if Vasya Pupkin is not given something broken, then
there won't be any. And someone can take this place. Of course
Bill is not particularly interested in Vasya. But Vasya Pupkin will lead with him
Fedya Glupkin, and Fedya someone else. Take the education sector for example.
It is obvious that if a student was taught N years using Microsoft products
then with a very high probability, after these N years, these products will be
be actively implemented practically. Which is what we are seeing. It is also obvious that
Almost everywhere there is illegal installation
stolen software. Microsoft, by the way, has opened an anonymous “hotline”for such cases. This is not easy.
As the market becomes saturated, this is my opinion, they will tighten more
nuts in order to squeeze as much as possible out of the consumer. In the absence
You can squeeze out more of any alternative.
RA> 3) Pirates still won’t go anywhere, well, they will release CDs
RA> updates, and on the Internet everything will be on Varezniki.
In my entire life I have only bought a couple of pirated discs and each
times I was quite disappointed. In the sense that he doesn’t have his $2/640MB
it was worth it. With the possible exception of "multimedia" content - I
There’s simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but MP3s can be played on a computer.
Who will release it? The “pirates” themselves cannot release anything. They
can only copy. Real production, even hacking,
is expensive. And I don't think that at $2/640MB it pays off. Here
everything is much more cunning, IMHO. How actively distributed (obviously
again, that all this can be stopped simply) various bases
data, like free internet - it's just a by-product of something
something else that we may not be able to understand.
RA> So the freebie will still remain a freebie.
THERE ARE NO FREE FEES! Either it’s bad, worthless
freebie. Or you'll have to pay. The only question is what and how.
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Kirill Frolov
1 August 2005
Hello, Kirill!
31 Jul 05, 01:13, Kirill Frolov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic
"Microsoft is introducing mandatory Windows XP authentication":
WB>>>> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication
WB>>>> when updating
KF>>> Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie
KF>>> exorbitantly expensive.
RA>> 1) Patches will still be available, only updates are closed
RA>> all kinds of programs.
KF> I hope this is just the beginning.
Unlikely.
RA>> 2) Already broken.
KF> You yourself understand that it is broken only because there is a will
KF> Bill and nothing more. From the technical side, it’s not a problem to stop
KF> all this disgrace at one moment.
And I don’t care whose will, there is and there is....
KF> It is also obvious that
KF> almost everywhere there is illegal installation
KF> stolen software.
Read the Criminal Code on the definition of the concept of “theft.”
RA>> 3) Pirates still won’t go anywhere, well, they will release CDs with RA>> updates, and everything on the Internet will be on Varezniki.
KF> In my entire life I have bought only a couple of pirated discs and each one
KF> times I was very disappointed. In the sense that it doesn’t have its own $2/640MByte
KF> was worth it.
Apparently I bought the wrong wheels.
KF> With the possible exception of "multimedia" content - to me
KF> there is simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but you can listen to MP3 on a computer.
Let me tell you a secret: CDs can also be listened to on your computer.
KF> Who will release it? The “pirates” themselves cannot release anything. They
KF> can only copy. Real production, even hacking
KF> is expensive. And I don’t think that at $2/640MB it pays off.
I'm not sure that pirates are doing charity work, which means it pays off.
RA>> So the freebie will still remain a freebie.
Happy connections. Roman.
From
Alexander Bondarenko
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To
Kirill Frolov
1 August 2005
*Hello, Kirill!*
Catch my ideas about the subject "Re: Microsoft introduces mandatory verification
authenticity of Windows XP", which your footcloth to comrade rattled about on Jul 30, 2005.
Wladimir Bulchukey.
WB>> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication
WB>> when updating
KF> Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie
KF> exorbitantly expensive.
Then it won’t be a freebie, but a suck.
/That’s all, Kirill, you can scroll further.../
From
Kirill Frolov
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Alexander Bondarenko
11 August 2005
Press RESET immediately, Alexander Bondarenko!
On Mon, 01 Aug 05 17:00:40 +0400, Alexander Bondarenko wrote:
WB>>> Microsoft introduces mandatory Windows XP authentication
WB>>> when updating
KF>> Finally. Freebies should not be freebies. There must be a freebie
KF>> exorbitantly expensive.
AB> Then it won't be a freebie, but a suck.
Otherwise - communism. In the most disgusting sense
this word.
From
Kirill Frolov
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Roman Alexandrov
2 September 2005
Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov!
On Sun, 31 Jul 05 23:35:33 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote:
KF>> You yourself understand that it is broken only because there is a will
KF>> Bill and nothing more. From the technical side, it’s not a problem to stop
KF>> all this disgrace at one moment.
RA> And I don’t care whose will, there is and there is....
Pervaya doza - free...
KF>> almost everywhere there is illegal installation
KF>> stolen software.
RA> Read the Criminal Code on the definition of the concept of "theft".
Na ehto otdel'naya stat'ya est'. Uzhe i novyj zakon where-to s god back
prinyali, where otvetstvennost' perelozhili na *fizicheskikh lic*. Ehto zhe
nesporsta.
KF>> In my entire life I have bought only a couple of pirated discs and each
KF>> times I was quite disappointed. In the sense that it doesn’t have its own $2/640MByte
KF>> was worth it.
RA> Apparently I bought the wrong wheels.
Net, ehto kachestvo halyava-wareza takoe. Podgotovka ehtih diskov --
ehto tozhe rabota, kotoraya stoit money. Piratam v ehto vkladyvat'sya
ne vygodno.
KF>> With the possible exception of "multimedia" content - to me KF>> there is simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but you can listen to MP3 on a computer.
RA> Let me tell you a secret: CDs can also be listened to on your computer.
Shnurok special'nyj imet' nado.
KF>> can only copy. Real production, even hacking
KF>> is expensive. And I don’t think that at $2/640MB it pays off.
RA> I'm not sure that pirates are engaged in charity, which means it pays off.
Ehto te kotorye na kazhdom uglu diski prodayut? Oni ne piratey.
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Kirill Frolov
3 September 2005
Hello, Kirill!
02 Sep 05, 10:07, Kirill Frolov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic
"Microsoft is introducing mandatory Windows XP authentication":
KF>>> You yourself understand that it is broken only because there is a will
KF>>> Bill and nothing more. From the technical side, it’s not a problem to stop
KF>>> all this disgrace at one moment.
RA>> And I don’t care whose will, it is and is....
KF> Pervaya doza -- free...
Is this some kind of demonstration of the capabilities of Linux? Bad advertising for Linux to write on
Translate, usually I immediately send such messages to the trash without reading them, because
I consider this to be mockery and disrespect for my person.
KF>>> almost everywhere there is illegal installation
KF>>> stolen software.
RA>> Read the Criminal Code on the topic of defining the concept of "theft".
KF> Na ehto otdel'naya stat'ya est'. Uzhe i novyj zakon gde-to s god nazad
KF> prinyali, where otvetstvennost' perelozhili na *fizicheskikh lic*. Ehto zhe
KF> nesporsta.
There is no crime in using unlicensed software
"Theft." KF>>> In my entire life I have bought only a couple of pirated discs and each
KF>>> times I was very disappointed. In the sense that it doesn’t have its own $2/640MByte
KF>>> it was worth it.
RA>> Apparently I bought the wrong wheels.
KF> Net, ehto kachestvo halyava-wareza takoe. Podgotovka ehtih diskov --
KF> ehto tozhe rabota, kotoraya stoit money. Piratam v ehto vkladyvat'sya
KF> ne vygodno.
I'm satisfied. besides, I usually try to buy not collections, but
copies of licensed discs, again, I haven’t bought anything for a long time - Internet
available.
KF>>> With the possible exception of “multimedia” content - to me
KF>>> there is simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but you can listen to MP3 on a computer.
RA>> Let me tell you a secret: CDs can also be listened to on your computer.
KF> Shnurok special'nyj imet' nado.
Is this like another demonstration of the capabilities of Linux? I can play without
any lace (of course there is one, but I was too lazy to install it, because I don’t listen to Audio
CD).
KF>>> can only copy. Real production, even hacking KF>>> is expensive. And I don’t think that at $2/640MB it pays off.
RA>> I'm not sure that pirates are engaged in charity, that means
RA>> pays off.
KF> Ehto te kotorye na kazhdom uglu diski prodayut? Oni ne piraty.
And we’re not talking about them.
Happy connections. Roman.
From
Kirill Frolov
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To
Roman Alexandrov
4 September 2005
Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov!
On Sat, 03 Sep 05 07:56:00 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote:
RA>>> And I don’t care whose will, it is and is....
KF>> Pervaya doza -- free...
RA> Is this some kind of demonstration of Linux capabilities? Bad advertising for Linux
RA> write to
Haha. This is a demonstration of the capabilities of a freshly installed W2k3.
Where to install the normal (this is YAVERT) keyboard layout
you need to be a bit of a hacker.
KF>> There are separate articles for this. Already a new law about a year ago
KF>> arrived, where responsibility was shifted to *individuals*. It's the same
KF>> non-sports.
RA> There is no corpus delicti in using unlicensed software
RA> "Theft".
Microsoft (1c too, these ones that make compass too) have very
popularly explains why this theft is very bad and there are links that
happens for. Typically - 0.5 year probation plus compensation for damage (~50 thousand rubles)
This is if the amount of this same damage exceeds this 50k, by now it’s probably already
higher - the minimum wage seems to have risen - the chances of being convicted have become less.
KF>> No, this is the quality of halyava-warez. Preparing these disks -- KF>> this is also work that costs money. Pirates should invest in this
CF>> not profitable.
RA> I'm satisfied. besides, I usually try to buy not collections, but
RA> copies of licensed discs, again, I haven’t bought anything for a long time -
RA> Internet is available.
That's right. Shareware and crackz are easier to find on the Internet. And
cheaper. It's even easier to use free software whenever possible.
KF>>>> With the possible exception of “multimedia” content - to me
KF>>>> there is simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but you can listen to MP3 on
KF>>>> computer.
RA>>> I’m revealing a secret: CDs can also be listened to on a computer.
KF>> You need to have a special lace.
RA> Is this like another demonstration of the capabilities of Linux?
I don’t know, I didn’t delve into it. I know, you can mount the disk as a file
system with a set of tracks for robbing. But I don’t know how to listen.
The record player plays on a string. However, Linux has no side here,
It's more about the players.
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Kirill Frolov
4 September 2005
Hello, Kirill!
04 Sep 05, 01:57, Kirill Frolov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "Re:
Microsoft is introducing mandatory Windows XP authentication":
RA>>>> And I don’t care whose will, it is and is....
KF>>> Pervaya doza -- free...
RA>> Is this some kind of demonstration of Linux capabilities? Bad advertising for Linux
RA>> write to
KF> Ha ha. This is a demonstration of the capabilities of a freshly installed W2k3.
KF> Where to install the normal (this is YAVERT) keyboard layout
KF> you need to be a little hacker.
Use the standard layout - it makes life easier.
KF>>> There are separate articles for this. Already a new law about a year ago
KF>>> arrived, where responsibility was shifted to *individuals*. It's the same
KF>>> non-sports.
RA>> There is no crime in using unlicensed software
RA>> called "Theft".
KF> Microsoft (1c too, the ones that make the compass - too) has a lot on the site
KF> popularly explains why this theft is very bad and there are links that KF> happens for. Typically - 0.5 year probation plus compensation for damage (~50 thousand.
KF> rub.) This is if the amount of this same damage exceeds these 50k, now
KF> probably already higher - the minimum wage seems to have risen - the chances of being convicted have become greater
KF> less.
I don’t care what is written on the Microsoft website, the main thing is what is written in the Criminal Code
a crime which consists of using unlicensed software
It is not _THEFT_.
KF>>> No, this is the quality of halyava-warez. Preparing these disks --
KF>>> this is also work that costs money. Pirates should invest in this
CF >>> not profitable.
RA>> I'm satisfied. besides, I usually try to buy non-compilations
RA>> and copies of licensed discs, again, I haven’t bought anything for a long time -
RA>> Internet available.
KF> That's right. Shareware and crackz are easier to find on the Internet. And
KF> cheaper. It's even easier to use free software whenever possible.
It’s easier for me to use the software that is simpler and more convenient, but what kind of software is it?
I usually don’t pay attention to commercial, shavarny or frivolous.KF>>>>> With the possible exception of "multimedia" content - to me
KF>>>>> there’s simply nothing to listen to legal audio CDs on, but MP3s can be played on
KF>>>>> computer.
RA>>>> I’m revealing a secret: CDs can also be listened to on a computer.
KF>>> You need to have a special lace.
RA>> Is this like another demonstration of the capabilities of Linux?
KF> I don’t know, I didn’t delve into it. I know, you can mount the disk as a file
KF> system with a set of tracks for robbing.
For this, it is better to use special software - it is more reliable.
KF> I don’t know how to listen.
It is itself.
KF> The player plays on a string.
The Windows media player does not pay attention to the absence of a cord - it plays.
Winamp too.
Happy connections. Roman.
From
Kirill Frolov
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To
Roman Alexandrov
5 September 2005
Press RESET immediately, Roman Alexandrov!
On Sun, 04 Sep 05 11:47:04 +0400, Roman Alexandrov wrote:
KF>>>> Pervaya doza -- free...
RA>>> Is this some kind of demonstration of Linux capabilities? Bad advertising for Linux
RA>>> write to
KF>> Haha. This is a demonstration of the capabilities of a freshly installed W2k3.
KF>> Where to install the normal (this is YAVERT) keyboard layout
KF>> you need to be a little hacker.
RA> Use the standard layout - it makes life easier.
Use standard Windows - it makes life easier. Do like everyone else.
To be like everyone else. Walk in formation... Maybe that's why I don't use it
standard Windows and have no desire to learn simple complex
layout. Moreover, it is not standard at all. Standard
I have it drawn on my keyboard, it coincides with “Yatran” (it’s there
where are the punctuation marks on the numbers). In Windows it’s different, NON-STANDARD.
And the coding too. According to the ISO8859-5 standard. In Linux there is,
by the way.
KF>> That's right. Shareware and crackz are easier to find on the Internet. And
KF>> cheaper. It's even easier to use free software whenever possible. RA> It’s easier for me to use the software that is simpler and more convenient, but which one
RA> he, commercial, shavarny or frivolous, I usually don’t pay attention
RA> please note.
As a rule, the freebie is *easier to use*. It’s not a fact, of course, that he
the software is better. You can use openoffice as an example. No need to run and search
some disks, activations, serials, cracks... But it’s comatose on
It's terribly impossible on a weak laptop. But it just exists and works.
And M$ is all readonly after the 50th time. And also for the server version
Windows running around looking for a server office is insanity, wild grin
capitalism...
KF>> The player plays on a string.
RA> The Windows media player does not pay attention to the absence of a cord - it plays.
RA> Winamp too.
In Windows there is a daw for this matter. And the "laser player" is old,
I'm not sure that he will behave correctly and not start playing
in the traditional way.