Linux supported PCI video-adapter with TV-receiver — ZXNet «zxnet.pc»

From Kirill Frolov To All 31 December 2004

Press RESET immediately, All! Recommend a PCI or AGP video adapter that is moderately lousy TV receiver, TV output, but most importantly - works well in Linux. Even if it’s outdated and not fashionable, and without 3D.

From Aleksandr Majorov To Kirill Frolov 3 January 2005

Hello Kirill! I am responding to your letter dated December 31, 2004, then written by Kirill Frolov to All, and then it was 18:43:18. KF> Recommend a PCI, or AGP, video adapter with an average rating KF> lousy TV receiver, TV output, but most importantly - good KF> running on Linux. KF> Even if it’s outdated and not fashionable, and without 3D. Do you need a video card with a built-in TV tuner? I doubt there are any. And so... Look at any video card with an output to a TV. And a separate TV tuner. It’s not worth taking an external TV tuner (with a USB connection), there are few possibilities. And from the internal ones - IMHO you can take any, they are all more or less the same. I now have AverMedia TV Studio 203. Naturally, there is no firewood for Linux on the included disk, but _it seems_ I I heard something about support for the BT-878 chip in Linux. And this tuner is on this read and built. Now there is a better AverMedia TV Studio 303. If the 203 has an 8-bit DAC, then the 303 is already 10-bit, that is, the picture quality is better. But there's already quite there is another chip. All the best, Alexander.

From Roman Alexandrov To Aleksandr Majorov 3 January 2005

Hello, Alexander! 03 Jan 05, 03:36, Aleksandr Majorov wrote to Kirill Frolov on the topic "Linux supported PCI video-adapter with TV-receiver": AM> Do you need a video card with a built-in TV tuner? AM> I doubt that there are any. Yes, both on TV-based chips and on ATI-based ones. Happy connections. Roman.

From Nikolaj Amosov To Aleksandr Majorov 3 January 2005

Hello, Alexander! Monday January 03, 2005 03:36:14 Aleksandr Majorov -> Kirill Frolov: KF>> Recommend a PCI, or AGP, video adapter with an average KF>> degrees KF>> lousy TV receiver, TV output, but the main thing - KF>> good KF>> running on Linux. AM> Do you need a video card with a built-in TV tuner? AM> I doubt that there are any. I read about such cards, but I didn’t remember the brand/model. AM> An external TV tuner (with a USB connection) is not worth taking, AM> few possibilities. But the image quality is higher due to the absence of interference, which are caught by the internal tuner being inside the case. Advise even with an internal tuner, the receiver is carried beyond the limit on wires ly housing - image quality is improved. AM> And from the internal ones - IMHO you can take any, all of them AM> more or less the same. You should take not just any of the same ones, but the one that is cheaper ;) AM> Now there is a better AverMedia TV Studio 303. If you There is a 307 AM> 203 DAC 8-bit, AM> then in 303 it is already 10-bit, that is, the picture quality is better. ButAnd stereo sound on TV. AM> it’s already quite there AM> there is another chip. Philips 7134 [REAL ZX] [SCORPION GMX 2048/SMUC/GS-512/HDD/CD]

From Vladimir Larkov To Nikolaj Amosov 4 January 2005

Hello Nikolaj! Mon 03-Jan-2005 21:51, you (500:812/2.26) wrote a letter to Aleksandr Majorov: AM>> Do you need a video card with a built-in TV tuner? AM>> I doubt that there are any. NA> I read about such cards, but I didn’t remember the brand/model. ATI All-In-Wonder (TV-Tuner, VIVO, FM-Radio), has been done for a long time, since all sorts of ancient Rage... well, this series is also on modern stones. I don't know anything similar with nVidia. With best wishes, Vladimir.

From Aleksandr Majorov To Roman Alexandrov 4 January 2005

Hello Roman! I am responding to your letter dated January 3, 2005, then written by Roman Alexandrov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 6:26:46 on the clock. ( ) AM>> Do you need a video card with a built-in TV tuner? AM>> I doubt that there are any. RA> Yes, both on TV and ATI chips. Oh how, what have we come to :-) Do you know how much worse/better such cards are than “ordinary” TV tuners? All the best, Alexander.

From Aleksandr Majorov To Nikolaj Amosov 4 January 2005

Hello Nikolaj! I am responding to your letter dated January 3, 2005, then written by Nikolaj Amosov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 21:51:43. ( ) AM>> Do you need a video card with a built-in TV tuner? AM>> I doubt that there are any. NA> I read about such cards, but I didn’t remember the brand/model. We already figured out that there are such things :) The only thing left is to compare them with conventional tuners :) AM>> An external TV tuner (with a USB connection) is not worth taking, AM>> few possibilities. NA> But the image quality is higher due to the lack of interference NA> which are caught by the internal tuner being inside the case. Advise NA> even with an internal tuner, move the receiver on wires beyond the limit NA> body - the image quality increases specifically. I couldn't stand my tuner - it showed normally on both computers. Although all my channels are on cable, with pre-amplifier, so I don’t indicator :) As for interference, I have experimentally established that interference is less than further from the video, I plug in the tuner! AM>> And from the internal ones - IMHO you can take any, all of them AM>> more or less the same. NA> You should take not just any of the same ones, but the one that is cheaper ;) I don't think FK0 is rich enough to buy cheap things :) AM>> Now there is a better AverMedia TV Studio 303. If you NA> 307th available 307 is their latest tuner for today. Costs 70...80 green rubles There is also 305, cheaper. Just yesterday at spb.hardw we were talking about the tuner :) AM>> 203 DAC 8-bit, AM>> then in 303 it is already 10-bit, that is, the picture quality is better. But NA> And stereo sound on TV. Do we have so many channels with stereo sound? IMHO this is not relevant yet. All the best, Alexander.

From Roman Alexandrov To Aleksandr Majorov 4 January 2005

Hello, Alexander! 04 Jan 05, 22:33, Aleksandr Majorov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "Linux supported PCI video-adapter with TV-receiver": AM> Don’t you know how worse/better such cards are than “regular” TV tuners? Made on the same components as individual tuners, better because they save space on a computer, it’s worse because when you replace the card, the tuner disappears.... Happy connections. Roman.

From Kirill Frolov To Aleksandr Majorov 5 January 2005

Press RESET immediately, Aleksandr Majorov! On Tue, 04 Jan 05 22:39:26 +0300, Aleksandr Majorov wrote: NA>> You should take not just any of the same ones, but the one that is cheaper ;) AM> I don't think FK0 is rich enough to buy cheap things :) I already bought a cheap scanner... :-( NA>> And stereo sound on TV. AM> Do we have so many channels with stereo sound? AM> IMHO this is not relevant yet. MTV has been experimenting for a long time. There's just nothing to see there, so... really not relevant.

From Nikolaj Amosov To Aleksandr Majorov 5 January 2005

Hello, Alexander! Tuesday 04 January 2005 22:39:26 Aleksandr Majorov -> Nikolaj Amosov: AM>>> An external TV tuner (with a USB connection) is not worth taking, AM>>> few possibilities. NA>> But the image quality is higher due to the lack of interference NA>> which are picked up by the internal tuner while inside the case. NA>> Advise NA>> even with an internal tuner, the receiver is wired behind NA>> limit NA>> body - the image quality improves specifically. AM> I couldn’t stand my tuner - it’s fine on both computers AM> showed. AM> Although I have all the channels on cable, with pre-amplifier AM> so I'm not AM> indicator. :) Well, I also have cable TV and there is interference on the tuner (AVER 307) enough. Previously, when there was a CRT monitor, they were very good noticeable. Then the monitor died and on the current one (TFT) there are not many of them noticeable, but they are there. Soviet TV, however, shows all channels except Russia, wonderful. For some reason, Russia looks bad even from a satellite shows. AM> As for interference, I found experimentally that AM> less interference than AM> further from the video, I plug in a tuner! Yeah, I also plugged my tuner into the penultimate PCI. In the last it didn’t work out - ISA’s sound card occupies the same output in case the same as the latest PCI :( [disk error] AM>>> Now there is a better AverMedia TV Studio 303. If you NA>> 307th available AM> 307 is their latest tuner for today. Worth AM> 70...80 green AM> rubles. There are also 305, cheaper. The only difference is the stereo sound on TV. AM> Just yesterday at spb.hardw we were talking about the tuner :) And what are they saying? AM>>> 203 DAC 8-bit, AM>>> then the 303 is already 10-bit, that is, the picture quality is better. AM>>> Ho NA>> And stereo sound on TV. AM> Do we have so many channels with stereo sound? I haven't seen any yet. I know that ORT and, like, MTV exist in stereo broadcasting, but I haven’t come across such broadcasts yet... AM> IMHO this is not relevant yet. I agree... And I became the owner of this tuner by accident - a friend for a long time moaned that he wanted a tuner. Then his birthday turned up -I bought it for him. It turned out that he made himself happy too :) I had to keep it :( [REAL ZX] [SCORPION GMX 2048/SMUC/GS-512/HDD/CD]

From Aleksandr Majorov To Kirill Frolov 7 January 2005

Hello Kirill! I am responding to your letter dated 01/05/2005, then written by Kirill Frolov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 0:35:46 on the clock. ( ) NA>>> You should take not just any of the same ones, but the one that is cheaper ;) AM>> I don’t think FK0 is rich enough to buy cheap things :) KF> I already bought a cheap scanner... :-( You probably bought the wrong scanner or a very cheap one :) I bought HP 2300 for 1.5 - 2.0 grand more than a year ago - no problems :) NA>>> And stereo sound on TV. AM>> Do we have so many channels with stereo sound? AM>> IMHO this is not relevant yet. KF> MTV has been experimenting for a long time. There's just nothing to see there, so KF> really, not relevant. On the other hand, they threaten to switch to digital television within 10 years, so it might be relevant :) All the best, Alexander.

From Aleksandr Majorov To Nikolaj Amosov 10 January 2005

Hello Nikolaj! I am responding to your letter dated January 5, 2005, then written by Nikolaj Amosov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 23:14:24. ( ) NA> Well, I also have cable TV and there is interference on the tuner (AVER 307) NA> is enough. Previously, when there was a CRT monitor, there were very good ones NA> noticeable. Then the monitor died and on the current one (TFT) there are not many of them NA> noticeable, but they are there. From my tuner the picture goes to two monitors at once - TFT and CRT. Both have the same quality :) NA> Soviet TV, however, shows all channels except Russia NA> great. For some reason, Russia looks bad even from satellite NA> shows. Strange, you have cable... You call them and complain about the bad signal. ( ) NA> And I became the owner of this tuner by accident - a friend for a long time NA> moaned that the tuner wanted. Then his birthday turned up - How good is the picture compared to a TV? Is the "comb" visible? What are you looking at - standard software or something more normal? All the best, Alexander.

From Aleksandr Majorov To Nikolaj Amosov 15 January 2005

Hello Nikolaj! I am responding to your letter dated January 13, 2005, then written by Nikolaj Amosov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 22:37:38 on the clock. ( ) AM>> How good is the picture compared to AM>> TV? NA> If you take my TV as 100%, then the tuner, depending on NA> channel, I would estimate it at 70-90%. On some channels there is some NA> grain. There is not a single channel with a “clean” image - NA> something is wrong everywhere. Strange, my picture is normal. Either my cable signal is stronger, or one of two things :) By the way, on my 3rd stump I noticed one feature: the computer worked at a frequency of 600...700 MHz, so there were three channels that went exactly to This frequency range was simply disgusting. Here, check the channel frequencies where you have “grain”. ( ) NA> The sound is bad - few low frequencies, This is most likely a question for your sound system. NA> hisses on some channels, but not always. Also check the channel frequencies. ( ) AM>> What are you looking at - standard software or something more AM>> normal? NA> In general, I am more inclined towards the standard one (AVERTV) - possibilities NA> it’s true that it’s smaller than that of the same FLY2000TV, but it works NA> stable and not buggy. Stable? Isn't it buggy? I don't believe it! :) Although maybe they finally rewrote the software. My tuner (plus tested on the previous model) has standard software It takes a VERY long time to load. Sometimes it took up to 40 seconds (with a completely free car), well, that’s a plus there were some glitches... NA> Now I’m watching fly, but something NA> I like the latest versions less and less - then NA> the image is missing when recording, then everything is pink and green NA> becomes when viewed. Try other programs. NA> Constant glitches with sound - does not write NA> infection with the volume level at which I watch - all the time NA> sets the level that is in the recording settings. NA> Why? But here everything is correct. Because sound is written by the system, and the system always writes at this level. And if you don’t like that the author doesn’t preset the volume level - so write to him :) NA> There is no description of the program... Hmm, off. Did you look at the program website? All the best, Alexander.

From Nikolaj Amosov To Aleksandr Majorov 16 January 2005

Hello, Alexander! Saturday January 15, 2005 13:24:10 Aleksandr Majorov -> Nikolaj Amosov: AM> By the way, on my 3rd stump I noticed one feature: AM> the computer worked at a frequency of 600...700 MHz, so there were three channels AM> which went specifically to AM> this frequency range was shown simply disgusting. AM> Check the frequencies of the channels where you have “grain”. No, I don’t have such channels. AM> ( ) NA>> The sound is bad - few low frequencies AM> This is most likely a question for your sound system. AWE64. I'll ask her. AM>>> What are you looking at - standard software or something more AM>>> normal? NA>> In general, I am more inclined towards the standard one (AVERTV) - possibilities NA>> though smaller than that of the same FLY2000TV, but it works NA>> stable and not buggy. AM> Stable? Isn't it buggy? I don't believe it! :) Try it. Although it’s unlikely that it will work for you - that software seems to be tailored specifically for my tuner. AM> Although maybe they finally rewrote the software. Yes. It's not buggy for me. AM> My tuner (plus tested on the previous model) AM> standard software AM> takes a VERY long time to load. I didn't notice this. NA>> Now I’m watching fly, but something NA>> I like the latest versions less and less - then NA>> the image is missing when recording, then everything is pink and green NA>> becomes when viewed. AM> Try other programs. No, I don’t need a recording. I just noticed the glitches. NA>> Constant glitches with sound - does not write NA>> infection with the volume level at which I watch - everything NA>> time NA>> sets the level that is in the recording settings. NA>> Why? AM> But here everything is correct. AM> Because sound is written by the system, and the system always writes with it AM> level. AM> And if you don’t like that the author doesn’t make a preset AM> volume level AM> - so write to him :) I wrote, but he didn’t answer me. Although I offered him money. Apparently the gate was cut... NA>> There is no description of the program... AM> Hmm, off. Did you look at the program website? Not yet. Why not include a description in the distribution? [REAL ZX] [SCORPION GMX 2048/SMUC/GS-512/HDD/CD]

From Nikolaj Amosov To Aleksandr Majorov 26 January 2005

Hello, Alexander! Monday January 10, 2005 15:17:07 Aleksandr Majorov -> Nikolaj Amosov: NA>> And I became the owner of this tuner by accident - buddy NA>> long ago NA>> moaned that the tuner wanted. Then the day turned up for him NA>> birth - AM> How good is his picture, compared to AM> TV? AM> Is the “comb” visible? AM> What are you looking at - standard software or something more AM> normal? Today I connected my Speck monitor (Philips CM8833-II) to RCA video output of the video card and was amazed by the specific quality the resulting picture from the TV tuner: the image is almost better, than on TV, there is no interference at all, no combs. I don’t even know how to explain this?! Watching demos and running console emulators is absolutely a fairy tale :) [REAL ZX] [SCORPION GMX 2048/SMUC/GS-512/HDD/CD]

From Kirill Frolov To Nikolaj Amosov 12 March 2005

Press RESET immediately, Nikolaj Amosov! On Wed, 26 Jan 05 21:41:06 +0300, Nikolaj Amosov wrote: NA> Today I connected my Speck monitor (Philips CM8833-II) to NA> RCA video output of the video card and was amazed at the specific quality NA> of the received picture from the TV tuner: the image is almost better Does it work on Linux? What's it called?

From Nikolaj Amosov To Kirill Frolov 13 March 2005

Hello Kirill! Saturday March 12, 2005 22:52:37 Kirill Frolov -> Nikolaj Amosov: NA>> Today I connected my Speck monitor (Philips NA>> CM8833-II) k NA>> RCA video output of the video card and was amazed by the specific NA>> quality NA>> the received picture from the TV tuner: the image is almost NA>> better KF> Does it work on Linux? What is it called? Who is it called? If you're talking about a tuner, then AverTV Studio 307. Native The software doesn't work on Linux. Maybe there is an alternative software, but I wasn't interested. But the picture is really sweet :) Apparently limited bandwidth of the RCA connection specifically filters interference. You don't even need to turn on the software Denoise filters. Even very low-quality, heavily compressed DivX can be watched and my eyes don't water... [REAL ZX]