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Konstantin Zhukov
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6 March 2006
Hello, All
I'm interested in the question why the authors of emulators write their descriptions in a foreign language
language? Have you forgotten the Radiant language or is this a new way of betraying the Motherland?
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Dmitry Zhemkov
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7 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
Patamushta, just because you don’t speak fucking English doesn’t mean the rest of you can too
don't talk! The emulsion doesn't work for you, hehehe :)
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Jaroslaw Tanunin
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7 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
Juk> Happy language
Radnoy - test word radina
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moroz1999
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7 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
well, in theory, everyone would like the product to be used as much as possible
a large audience, but a purely Russian one completely cuts off such a prospect.
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Golubtsov Alexey
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7 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
Juk> I am interested in the question why the authors of emulators write their descriptions in
Juk> foreign language? Have you forgotten the good language or is this a new way
Juk> betrayal of the Motherland?
This begs the answer that the homeland is the Spectrum (and the indigenous languages on it are
it's English and Spanish :)
In general, it is more convenient and easier to write technical descriptions in English.
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Vladimir Kladov
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7 March 2006
Hello diver
The problem is not to come up with something for every line in the menu or button
Russian text. We also need to create a code that will replace/load all this.
And so the sizes are getting tighter. And then the spec was always non-Russian. And there's nothing wrong with
I don't see this. An extra workout for your brain won't hurt.
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Konstantin Zhukov
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7 March 2006
Hello diver
div> this begs the answer that the homeland is the Spectrum (and the languages on it
div> indigenous - English and Spanish :)
div> in general, it is more convenient and easier to write technical descriptions in English.
Here I have Quorum with Russian firmware and circuitry, following your logic
The indigenous language of the Spectrum can just as well be called Russian.
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Konstantin Zhukov
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7 March 2006
Hello, moroz1999
mor> well, in theory, everyone would like the product to be used as
mor> you can have a large audience, but purely Russian cuts off such a prospect
mor> completely.
How can it gain more if on one side you attract foreigners,
and on the other hand, you cut off a good part of the ex-USSR, in which there are fans of spec, I think
will be more than in Europe and America combined.
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Konstantin Zhukov
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7 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
Vla> the problem is not that for every line in the menu or button
Vla> come up with a Russian text. We still need to create the code that will make it all
Vla> replace/load. And so the sizes are getting tighter. And then always speck
Vla> was non-Russian. And I don’t see anything wrong with this. Extra training for
Vla> brains wouldn't hurt.
This is not about Russifying the keys, but about helping the emulator. When they write all sorts of things
technical abbreviated terms in English you begin to wonder what the authors had in mind
I mean under one setting or another. Although you know, to make excuses on PC, that
The dimensions are tight rather stupidly. Do you really need a foreign
audience? Why? Emulators are distributed free of charge, so there's no money to be made from this
don't make money. And foreigners don’t particularly need Russian bells and whistles.
They program at 16K with tapezx and are happy. Yes, Spectrum was English, but not
there were problems getting the necessary literature with descriptions in Russian. A
Here, it seems to be a Russian program, but it was written entirely for foreigners. It's a shame for
power.
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Konstantin Zhukov
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7 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
Vla> They are not in the sizes on the PC, but in the sizes on my website - once, and in the sizes
Vla> of the archive that has to be downloaded is twos. And I don’t care who’s there
Vla> what does he think, I just don’t want to Russify, period. For fun
Vla> open all possible windows and dialogs, and count the texts for
Vla> which you will have to come up with a Russian name (including pop-up ones
Vla> hints, menus, all prompts) - you can hang yourself.
Why invent? You are writing a translation from English. File-File, Open-Open, and
etc. It seems like nothing too abstruse. Or are all thought processes only on
English happen? Haven't started packing your suitcase for America yet?
Well, okay, if a person doesn’t want to write on the great and mighty, a stone falls into his hands. But
you, everyone who still considers Russian to be their native language, do not be lazy to do so,
so that your programs are understandable to your fellow citizens, and not to Uncle Sam,
who doesn’t need you and your programs.
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Witch Doctor
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7 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
Don't panic!
1. There must be ONE language ON THE WHOLE PLANET. and if the Russian language failed
the opportunity to become international, in the way it happened with English, is
its historical, so to speak, problems. If you want to communicate with EVERYONE, learn English,
and not, alas, LANGUAGE and certainly not “read a language”... And learning English is considered
easier. and nowadays the masses don’t like to exert themselves. so I'm sorry, but in our lifetime
English will rule and rule more and more... and we, instead of developing the great and
We take the mighty surzhiks out of the closets and rejoice in the independence.
2. fellow citizens hungry for emuls - let's just say - are already very advanced users and have
at least some English vocabulary. They will not die and will not be afraid. moreover,
Many points are clear by analogy with other programs. you can, of course, write
help in Russian. the rest... what is not clear there? if the user does not know what
pentagon, what about scorpion, etc. so he should at least speak Albanian... but maybe something like this
translate, as it happens, it’s better not to, for example: port #7FFD - pier
#7FFD ? :))) So here we will be surprised at the wonderful point...
3. In general, comrade. Zhukov I would like your problems: we have only 2 out of 32 schools here
remained in Russian, the rest in Khokhlyatsky. So now my head is spinning
how to determine in these 2 words so that it speaks the LANGUAGE like a person, and
didn’t moo in Surzhik like cattle...So it’s not all bad... Bad things are yet to come :)))
From
Vladimir Kladov
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7 March 2006
Hello Titus
They are not in the sizes of the PC, but in the sizes on my website - once, and in the archive sizes,
which you have to download - two. And I don’t care who thinks what, I
I just don’t want to Russify, period. Just for fun, open all possible
windows and dialogues, and count the texts for which you will have to come up with Russian
name (including tooltips, menus, all prompts) - hang yourself
possible.
From
Vladimir Kladov
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7 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
Well, go through my points, go through them. You think it's easy.
Let's see what you say on the N1000 line.
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Andrey Alexandrovich Titov
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7 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
Vla> We also need to create the code that will replace/load all this. And
Vla> so the sizes are tightened.
What are the sizes? What? extra 10-20-30-100 kilos on the PC - are these dimensions? :v2_tong:
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SMT
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7 March 2006
Hello Sinus
yeah. f toppku eng. I’m already starting to learn Japanese - it’s very expressive (not in
Tom, hehe, I mean, like Russian). but by the fact that for each personal pronoun
a dozen options, one word can replace an entire phrase (this is not possible with
hieroglyphs gone)
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Slavik Tretiak
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7 March 2006
Hello, Witch Doctor
Jukov
fz.
The program interface should be in English, because there are fewer problems with encodings
(oops! surprise! It turns out that Windows is not the only thing!) and less memory
goes to fonts (yes, even in petse you need to write normal programs, not
with his hands in his * mouth).
Help is another matter.
although...
> But you, everyone who still considers Russian to be their native language
Russian has never been my native language, and if I write help in Belarusian,
I don't think it will make it any easier for anyone.
and especially all the terms are in English. and translating them into Russian is stupid.
┌─- code ───
10 LET XY = 20
20 GO TO XY
└── code ───
┌─- code ───
10 LET XY = 20
20 FUCK YOU
└── code ───
In general, my native language is Ruyaponglish. that is, a cross between Russian, Japanese and
English ;)
From
Vladimir Kladov
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7 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
Gigascreen - how to translate? Gigascreen? Multicolor - Multicolor?
Small detail:
Speed
Speed
Can you see the difference in line length? And so it goes everywhere. Russian words and phrases approximately
1.41 longer. OK - Execute. Cancel - Cancel. Think also to comply
the same form - verb or noun. Two buttons next to each other: Cancel and
You can’t apply it like that, it’s stylistically incorrect. Then you must always Cancel
write, which is even longer. English is good for its brevity. All nouns
can mean action. All actions can be nouns.
What does betrayal of any homeland have to do with it? On this forum there are people from
states, Canada, you make claims against them. But personally, I have no one to talk to, and to
They have no complaints either. The Motherland... the Motherland appreciates, the Motherland knows how it is
my son barely survives from paycheck to paycheck. Suitcases... I don't have money suitcase
buy, let alone a train ticket to a neighboring city. Every hundred counts.
Thanks to my homeland. Oh, we found a traitor. A sort of CIA agent. Yeah, that's for me
State Department The USA probably pays so that I would never Russify my
emulator I actually live on planet Earth, and I would gladly erase everything
borders. I can't. My homeland doesn't allow it. Deprived me of my rights to freedom
movement. For freedom of speech. She left only the right to free slavery.So we amuse ourselves in our free time, so as not to go completely crazy.
As for the number of spec fans - at least once on www.worldofspectrum.org
were there? Just for fun, if you compare the number of spec emulators of ours and not
ours - what will happen? Do you want to prove that there are more of our fans? Do
another Russian emulator. Just not a clone of the emulator, but a real one, your own. I'm out
I made 3 of them just for the PC. This is such a TRAITOR.
2nd moderator: if you erase this message of mine, erase it along with
by the whole thread. I'm for it. And then they got it here...
From
Konstantin Zhukov
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7 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
Vla> Gigascreen - how to translate? Gigascreen? Multicolor - Multicolor?
Vla>
Vla> Small detail:
Vla> Speed
Vla> Speed
Vla>
Vla> Can you see the difference in line length? And so it goes everywhere. Russian words and phrases
Vla> is about 1.41 longer. OK - Execute. Cancel - Cancel. Also
Vla> think to maintain the same form - verb or noun.
Vla> Two buttons next to each other: Cancel and Apply - this is not possible, stylistically
Vla> is incorrect. Then you must always write Cancel, which is even longer.
Vla> English is good for its brevity. All nouns can mean
Vla> action. All actions can be nouns.
Vla>
Vla> What does betrayal of any homeland have to do with it? This forum has
Vla> people from the states, Canada, you make claims against them. But personally
Vla> I have no complaints about anyone, and I have no complaints about them either. Homeland... homeland
Vla> appreciates, the homeland knows how her son barely gets from paycheck to paycheckVla> survives. Suitcases... I don’t have the money to buy a suitcase, let alone
Vla> train ticket to a neighboring city. Every hundred counts. Thanks
Vla> homeland. Oh, we found a traitor. A sort of CIA agent. Yeah, that's for me
Vla> state dep. The USA probably pays, no matter what I do
Vla> Russified my emulator. I actually live on planet Earth, and s
Vla> would gladly erase all boundaries. I can't. The homeland does not allow it.
Vla> She deprived me of my rights to free movement. For freedom of speech.
Vla> Left only the right to free slavery. So we have fun in
Vla> free time, so as not to completely go crazy.
Vla>
Vla> As for the number of speck fans - have you at least once
Vla> www.worldofspectrum.org were there? Just for fun, if you compare
Vla> number of spec emulators of ours and not ours - what will happen? Do you want
Vla> prove that there are more of our fans? Make another Russian
Vla> emulator. Just not a clone of the emulator, but a real one, your own. I have 3 of them
Vla> made things only for the PC. This is such a TRAITOR.Vla>
Vla> 2nd moderator: if you’re going to erase this message of mine, don’t erase it
Vla> along with the entire thread. I'm for it. Otherwise they made a mistake here....
Right now I’m working in the Russian version of Windows and I don’t see any problems with the length
words in this system. I repeat once again - only Russify the help, I won’t do anything else
I demand. It is necessary to compare not the number of emulators, but the number of users. U
Their emulators appeared earlier than ours.
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Konstantin Zhukov
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7 March 2006
Hello, Witch Doctor
1. Explain, please, why the hell is the Scorpio and Pentagon emulator in Canada or
in Australia? In Europe? Yes, English is a generally recognized international language
communication. But when I, say, work with Italian technical documentation
(at work), then there are first inscriptions in Italian, and then in
English. The whole question is only respect for one’s own nation. The Italians have their own
They love the language, the Germans love it, the French do. And we don't respect ourselves. For us only where
the ass is warm, the homeland is there. Our ancestors left us 1/6 of the land. Today we
It doesn’t matter how we live, but remember the time of troubles, the Mongol yoke. Do you think it's over?
then Russia? Have you learned Polish and Mongolian? I can already hear alarmists here
shouts that Russian is not a common language, you want to communicate with everyone -
learn English. You know, I discovered that my friends speak Russian, my
my family speaks Russian, my president speaks Russian, that's just mine
the boss speaks swear words. I have traveled hundreds of kilometers across the country, but
I didn’t need knowledge of English to understand people who live with
me on the same earth. I speak enough Russian to communicate with everyone I know.
2. Well, write help in Russian, I don’t need more from you.
3. I sympathize. The animal world is like that.
From
Konstantin Zhukov
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7 March 2006
Hello diver
div> Jukov, my logic is different: all the games I played as a child
div> were in English and Spanish and, basically, these were
div> Spectrum games.
And in my childhood I played Kings Bounty, The Last Hiro of Light Force, Black Raven -
The best games (IMHO) are on Spec and, moreover, in Russian.
From
Konstantin Zhukov
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7 March 2006
Hello Sinus
Sin> Jukov
Sin> Russian has never been my native language, and if I write help in
Sin> Belarusian, I think it won’t make it any easier for anyone.
Sin>
How many people in Belarus know English and how many speak Russian?
From
Golubtsov Alexey
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7 March 2006
Hello SMT
Jukov, my logic is different: all the games I played as a child were on
English and Spanish and mostly Spectrum games.
From
Vladimir Kladov
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7 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
And how many Russian spektrumists DO NOT KNOW English to the extent of item names
menu and understanding of basic words? I think - 0 of these. If you're English
- enemy, learn English. Maybe you'll survive. Or maybe you will win.
From
Vladimir Kladov
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7 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
Where did you see the help in my emulsion? I wrote in the Russian version of the manual:
there is no help and there never will be. Everything should be understandable to a child aged from
4 years old. And then it depends on age. If a person needs a debugger, he will figure it out without
help with debugger. And if you play, you’ll understand it all the more.
I don’t understand what Scorpio or the Pentagon has to do with it. I support almost everything
Western models. Soon I’ll cut American Timex too. What's bad?
From
Witch Doctor
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8 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
In short, to hell with them with languages - there will be no sense - God himself punished them with multilingualism -
let's unwind :)))
Kladov is right in what he says - borders, etc. - in GazenVagen :mad:
Comrade Zhukov, well, let’s transfer the help, for example, to Unreal, and SMT will check it -
and that's all. I'm ready to help! And let's leave this fight... it will be more productive.
A ?!
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Witch Doctor
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8 March 2006
Hello, Witch Doctor
It reminded me of this “SDK on spec” - it swelled and swelled - and then there was silence. Not good.
Demagoguery is for philosophers - but we REALLY have to do something, right?
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Konstantin Zhukov
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8 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
Vla> And how many Russian spektrumists DO NOT KNOW English in terms of names
Vla> menu items and understanding of basic words? I think - 0 of these. If
Vla> for you the Englishman is the enemy, learn English. Maybe you'll survive. A
Vla> maybe you will win.
Yes, leave these menu items. Once again, this is neither about them nor about the LET teams,
GOTO, NEXT and others. In the emulators Ay_Emul and SMT Unreal Speccy, help on
English.
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Konstantin Zhukov
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8 March 2006
Hello, Witch Doctor
It’s possible to translate it, but what about when he releases a new version with different variables?
Digging up someone else's garden every time?
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moroz1999
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8 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
It seems to me that Comrade Zhukov somewhat underestimates the current number
fans in the West.
From
Dmitry Zhemkov
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9 March 2006
Hello diver
Russia doesn't sleep, it blows))
From
Golubtsov Alexey
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9 March 2006
Hello Sinus
Sinus, this does not change the essence of the matter. We are talking about a cross between Russian and English and
jargon, because such things as “gigascreen” and so on are in pure Russian to no one in
he won’t come to translate his head.
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9 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
Juk> How many people in Belarus know English and how many speak Russian?
English - 1%
Russian - 1%
Belarusian - 1%
I doubt that even you know Russian (good, correct Russian)
I know, I even thought about enrolling in the philology department first. but thank God I changed my mind.
what we speak is not Russian. it is a cross between Russian, English and
jargon. to a greater or lesser extent.
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9 March 2006
Hello Sinus
2 Sinus - respect.
2 Jukov - It seems like there was help for Unreal in Russian? Not right now? So let's
translate! I fully understand authors who find it difficult to write in two languages - this is
OK, hop on the text!
2 Witch Doctor - “So now my head feels like it’s in these 2 places
determine so that it speaks the LANGUAGE like a person, and does not moo in Surzhik, like
redneck..."
Well, rednecks can quite moo to themselves in Russian :) (For now, all the rednecks that I’m in
I've met it in my life - it was the one that was mooed :)) What don't you like about Ukrainian?
Quite a normal language. Let the child speak both!
I don’t think that everyone in your city speaks Ukrainian. At best - at
Surzhik. It seems to me that it is not the school that instills the language, but the environment.
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Witch Doctor
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9 March 2006
Hello Surfin' Bird
Surfin' Bird: people were smart enough to use numbers. One for everyone.
And here they almost want to come up with their own, independent ones. And it's funny that water
3 cripples are stirring up trouble, but the people are kind and say “well, so be it.” but you can't do this
allow separatism. And our grandchildren may successfully not understand each other
with such a moronic policy. And not only in terms of language, but also in terms of culture and
etc. (That’s what it’s all about. Vlad needs his own national mug. So don’t
drapanulo.) And they may also be hostile to each other thanks to
nationalization. Moreover, the youth are already being led on the sly :(
Comrade Zhukov: Well, the author doesn’t want to - and rightly so! let's improve the code, etc., etc.
etc. and help can be given to others... whoever wants it. everyone will be pleased. and how many of those
will there be changes in relation to the main part?
I suggest you start already, rather than procrastinate.
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9 March 2006
*Hello, moroz1999!*
Catch my ideas about the subject “Do I sleep Russian?”, which I talked about in 08
Mar 2006 your footcloth to comrade. All.
m> It seems to me that Comrade Zhukov somewhat underestimates the current situation
m> number of fans in the West.
That’s how it is, of course, but we shouldn’t forget about our brother. I'm here
for example, I know English language more than... But how nice it is to read the descriptions on
Russian! You get such moral and sexual satisfaction!... Even better than
night with a woman!
Shchyutka, of course, but still. Since we are Russian, this is how it should be described for us
be at our "real language". And as for the Western lads, it’s FUCK!!! For
Shouldn’t we cook up a description of them when there are so many peppers walking around,
which even in English sound like ol right, YOKLMH!
In short, what I want to say. Russian - bourgeois FRIENDSHIP, I will stab you all with a stump
through my rusty kerosene gas!!!
/That’s all, moroz1999, you can scroll further.../
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10 March 2006
Hello, Witch Doctor
> Surfin' Bird: people were smart enough to use numbers. Alone
> for everyone. And here they almost want to come up with their own, independent ones.
Fuck it... :v2_scare: What, in kind? Where can I read it?
> And it’s funny that the waters are muddied by 3 cripples, but the people are kind and say “well
> let it go." But such separatism cannot be allowed. And our grandchildren
> may successfully not understand each other with such a moronic policy. And
> not only in terms of language, but also in terms of culture, etc.
I believe that my grandchildren and yours will understand each other. Because they will have
normal parents who will TEACH them not to be fooled by the state. awesome PR campaigns.
As for culture, it must be preserved unconditionally! Both Ukrainian and
Belarusian and Russian cultures are very interesting and different and we are OBLIGATED to them
save. To cut everyone with the same (for example, Russian) comb is unacceptable and
dangerous.
> (That’s what it’s all about. Vlad needs his own national mug.
> it didn't work out.) And they may also be hostile to each other
> to a friend thanks to nationalization. Moreover, young people are already underway
> slowly :(We all...have what the authorities need. Let them eat their own...
Nationalization is an extreme... But look - in Ukraine at least some percentage
population speaks their native language. And in Belarus, for example, there are only enthusiasts!
90% of the population speaks Russian or Trasyanka! And it's dark and sad.
> comrade. Zhukov: Well, the author doesn’t want to - and rightly so! better code
> improves, etc., etc. and help can be given to others... whoever wants it. everyone will be
> nice. and how many changes will there be in relation to the main part
> ?
I agree!
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Vladimir Kladov
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10 March 2006
Hello Surfin' Bird
Full offtopic:
Unfortunately, there is precedent. In the 16th century, the Bulgarian language was exactly
coincided with Ukrainian = Russian. Already 100 years after the introduction "from above"
We stopped understanding each other about the new rules of grammar. And anyway, once upon a time
Kiyv was the capital of Rus'. When the northern princes built a new capital, they called
its Most-Kyiv (it’s not for nothing that Moscow remains Mos-cow in European languages).
I am now unable to understand my neighbor’s speech, even if he speaks
slowly :( So if they understand, then if they both know English.
It could very well happen.
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10 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
Vla> Yes, Kiev, I was in a hurry. Moscow - no one calls our capital that way and no
Vla> writes (from Europeans - definitely no one). Moskov, Moscow, Moscow. No
Vla> it’s so squishy. This is a legend.
Why is there not a legend about the bridge?
Vla> (Have you ever seen people digging underground passages in a swamp?).
The metro is a hell of a lot of underground passages... And I live in St. Petersburg;)
Vla> The Upper Russian princes wanted to erase the connection with in the memory of the people
Vla> Kiyiv, which they could not keep under their hand. About what
Vla> history is quickly forgotten, as confirmed by all the events of the 20th century...
Yeah :v2_down:
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10 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
Vla> And anyway, Kiyv was once the capital of Rus'.
That's right - Kiev :v2_rolley
Vla> When the northern princes built a new capital, they called it Most-Kiyv (not
Vla> in vain, after all, Moscow remained Mos-cow in European languages).
Hmm... But I read that “Moskva” in some old Russian meant “boggy
place." That's what they called it.
Vla> Now I am not able to understand my neighbor’s speech, even if he does
Vla> speak slowly :(
Well, I don’t know :) I go to Ukraine and Russia and Belarus - everyone is great
I understand, and everyone understands me perfectly.
Vla> So if they understand, then if they both know English.
Vla> It could very, very well happen.
Better than Esperanto! It will be cooler than any English ones: v2_wink2:
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Vladimir Kladov
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10 March 2006
Hello Surfin' Bird
Yes, Kiiv, I was in a hurry. Moscow - no one calls or writes our capital that way (from
Europeans - definitely no one). Moskov, Moscow, Moscow. Yes, it’s not that squishy.
This is a legend. (Have you ever seen people digging underground passages in a swamp?).
The Upper Russian princes wanted to erase the connection with Kiiv in the memory of the people,
which they could not hold under their hand. About that story quickly
is forgotten, as confirmed by all the events of the 20th century...
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Konstantin Zhukov
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10 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
There is nothing to do, you will have to translate it yourself.
I downloaded the latest version of unreal SMT from the site http://trd.speccy.cz/, but it requires
some file MSVCR71.dll. What's the problem? Or maybe tell me where I can
download the normal version.
From
Jaroslaw Tanunin
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10 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
Juk> and it requires some kind of MSVCR71.dll file.
http://zx.pk.ru/showpost.php?p=15169&postcount=9
From
Slavik Tretiak
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10 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=MSVCR71.dll&btnG=Google+Search
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Konstantin Zhukov
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10 March 2006
Hello, [bETA]mEN
Are there any emulators that support the scroll wheel?
From
Vladimir Kladov
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10 March 2006
Hello Surfin' Bird
what does the bridge have to do with it? Bridge - Place - Place or Instead. Do you feel the RUSSIAN language?
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Jaroslaw Tanunin
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10 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
Juk> Are there any emulators that support the scroll wheel?
EmuZWin
UnrealSpeccy
ZX-Emul
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Vladimir Kladov
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11 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
About the wheel. I support it in the emulator _interface. To pass the wheel
program on Spectrum that works with a mouse - there is simply no such interface
exists. Or if it exists, click on the documentation.
From
Konstantin Zhukov
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11 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
Vla> About the wheel. I support it in the emulator _interface. To the wheel
Vla> transfer to a program on the Spectrum that works with the mouse - this
The Vla> interface simply does not exist. Or if it exists, click a
Vla> documentation.
ZX_MULTI CARD, which was developed by CARO, supports the scroll wheel, data about
which is transmitted to 4-7 bits of the #FADF port
http://zx.pk.ru/showthread.php?t=1272&page=2&pp=10
http://zx.pk.ru/showthread.php?t=609&page=6&pp=10
From
Konstantin Zhukov
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11 March 2006
Hello, [bETA]mEN
bET> mEN']EmuZWin
bET> UnrealSpeccy
bET> ZX-Emul
Something is missing in UnrealSpeccy
From
SMT
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11 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
Vla> It remains to find documentation on the multi-card. You won't
Vla> argue that in order to emulate a device, there is very little
Vla> know only that it exists and performs some kind of function?
Vla> Moreover, from the point of view of emulation (at least for me) completely
Vla> it is not interesting to have a circuit diagram or PLM firmware of some kind. Exactly what you need
Vla> "algorithm". Addresses, passwords, appearances.
There is probably more than one topic on this forum about this device. schematics with firmware exactly
were. and if you ask caro, he will send you the source code (imho, multimap from
The ATM controller is not far behind). all that remains is to translate the algorithms from
i51 in your programming language
From
Vladimir Kladov
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11 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
All that remains is to find documentation on the multi-card. You won't mind that
in order to emulate a device, it is very little to know only what it is
exists and performs some function? Moreover, from the point of view of emulation (to me,
at least) it’s not at all interesting to have a circuit diagram or PLM firmware
any. What is needed is an “algorithm”. Addresses, passwords, appearances.
From
Vladimir Kladov
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11 March 2006
Hello SMT
So I say: once the algorithm is known, I’ll add a multimap (or at least
wheel, if possible).
From
Konstantin Zhukov
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11 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
There is no need to emulate the entire multimap. It only contains
on one board several devices that have already been developed for Spectrum and have become
type standards. But I think it’s not difficult to make a scroll wheel and it’s even very
necessary.
From
SMT
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12 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
> so I say: once the algorithm is known, I will add a multimap (or
> at least a wheel, if possible).
ahhh, Master is disdainful of poking around in code 8051 f-)
From
Vladimir Kladov
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12 March 2006
Hello SMT
what is code 8051? I’m now in machine code and Z80 without any confusion.
The time has passed when I could read and write programs directly in hex codes.
From
Alexander Bondarenko
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Golubtsov Alexey
12 March 2006
*Hello, Golubtsov!*
Catch my ideas about the subject “Do I sleep Russian?”, which I talked about in 09
Mar 2006 your footcloth to comrade. All.
GA> Sinus, this does not change the essence of the matter. We are talking about a cross between Russian and
GA> English and jargon, because such things as “gigascreen” and so on
GA> it will never occur to anyone to translate pure Russian.
What? Gigascreen can be called “double screen”. Cheap and cheerful
it turns out.
/That’s all, Golubtsov, you can scroll further.../
From
Konstantin Zhukov
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13 March 2006
Hello, Vladimir Kladov
How to translate:
t-states
y-resolution
per-pixel?
From
Stanislav Lomakin
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13 March 2006
Hello, Jukov
Juk> How to translate:
Juk> t-states
Juk> y-resolution
Juk> per-pixel?
bars,
y resolution,
to point [screen]
From
Alexander Bondarenko
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Konstantin Zhukov
18 March 2006
*Hello, Konstantin!*
Catch my ideas about the subject “Do I sleep Russian?”, which I talked about at 13
Mar 2006 your footcloth to comrade. All.
QOL> How to translate:
QOL> t-states
QOL>y-resolution
QOL> per-pixel?
So translate it. %)
/That’s all, Konstantin, you can scroll further.../