help!!!

VS>> Question not on the topic of the conference: when using VS>> ZX-LINK Kempston, I VS>> so I understand I can’t use it? NA> Is it even needed? After 10 years of Spectrumism, I still haven’t gotten used to it NA> to the joystick... Yes, y-what are you doing? And from a dandy (plate) with cut off mikrukha - haven’t tried it? KIA

Hello All! In short, I'm already fucked! Then I remembered that there is such an echo of a “guru” here :))) In general, the essence of the problem: there is a computer that is connected to two local networks (two network cards) and via a modem to the Internet. Task: you need to collect mail through pop3 via modem from the Internet for different users _from different mailboxes_!, and distribute it to them via LAN. Winroute did this perfectly. However, when I disconnected from the local Internet and started using a modem, calling winroute stubbornly refuses. Shouts that host not found, etc. Although a tick "use RAS" is worth it. Then I tried VPOP3, but it can only pick up mail from one host. Win Mail Server suffers from exactly the same problem. Is there really no one program? Or will I have to write it myself??? Vega/ex-Style Group. FIDO: 2:5030/1512 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: vega56@mail.ru ICQ: 144932679

A day has passed, and you are still alive! Vlad! On 12 May 04, Vlad Sotnikov wrote to All: VS> In short, I'm already fucked! Then I remembered that there is such an echo here VS> "guru" :))) In general, the essence of the problem: there is a computer that is connected to VS> two local networks (two network cards) and via a modem to the Internet. Task: VS> it is necessary to collect mail via pop3 via a modem from the Internet for different VS> users _from different mailboxes_!, and distribute it to them via VS> local area. Winroute did this perfectly. However, when I disconnected from VS> local Internet and started using a modem, calling winroute persistently VS> refuses. Shouts that host not found, etc. Although checkmark VS> "use RAS" is worth it. Then I tried VPOP3, but it can only VS> retrieve mail from one host. Win Mail Server suffers from exactly the same thing. VS> Is there really not a single program? Or will I have to write it myself??? Maybe not, because Windows as a server is not the best solution. I can offer possible solution. The console version won't suit you? ;) There is such software - Postie - a console email client. Can send andpick up mail via POP3 as well. Through command line parameters you can specify everything you need to collect mail from different mailboxes, regardless from hosts. If you run it through start, you can create pseudo-multi-threading, Otherwise, you'll be checking boxes one after another. As a result, it returns the code completion - you can check whether everything went well or not. It’s easy to find on the Internet, if anything happens, I can lather it up. I've used it for a while time until I realized that for me TheBat! - the best option is I'll mail you at I don’t distribute it locally. ;) === Home Windows Clipboard === POSTIE is (c) copyrighted 1996-2001 and written by Andrew George Davison and Infradig Systems. POSTIE is a command-line mail client that handles multi-part MIME attachments, HTML mail, UUencode/decode, POP3 and IMAP4 reading, SMTP, NNTP (Usenet) and IMAP4 posting. HTTP fetching and list-server processing. And much more! POSTIE doesn't have a GUI as it is not meant to be used directly as an email client... it was designed for back-end processing, to be used with schedulers, CGI, or to be exec driven from another program. WIN95: requires the WinSock2 upgrade from http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q182/1/08.ASP ===End of Windows Clipboard === ZXNet: 500:8462/1 ~/ <~ http://zxnet.da.ru/ Fido: 2:5057/56 /_ _> SkyNet: 71:170/21

Hi Vlad! May 12, 2004 20:11, Vlad Sotnikov wrote to All: VS> it is necessary to collect mail via pop3 via a modem from the Internet for different VS> users _from different mailboxes_!, and distribute it to them through VS> local. Isn't it possible to configure baht as a server? And then let the baht distribute baht clients all mail. Bye Vlad!

Hello, Vlad! 12 May 04, 20:11, Vlad Sotnikov wrote to All on the topic "help!!!": VS> In short, I'm already fucked! Then I remembered that there is such an echo of a “guru” here VS> :))) VS> In general, the essence of the problem: there is a computer that is connected to two local networks VS> (two network cards) and via a modem to the Internet. Task: need to collect VS> mail via pop3 via modem from the Internet for different users _from different VS> mailboxes_!, and distribute it to them via LAN. Did it perfectly VS> Winroute. However, when I disconnected from the local Internet and started VS> use a modem, winroute stubbornly refuses to call. Shouts that host VS> not found, etc. Dig into the settings, change the version, etc. Everything worked for me via a modem ok. Happy connections. Roman.

Greetings, Vlad, reading this nonsense... I remember May 12, 04 20:11, Vlad Sotnikov spoke with All... Well, let’s answer: VS> In short, I'm already fucked! Then I remembered that there is such an echo here VS> "guru" :))) In general, the essence of the problem: there is a computer that is connected to VS> two local networks (two network cards) and via a modem to the Internet. Task: VS> it is necessary to collect mail via pop3 via a modem from the Internet for different VS> users _from different mailboxes_!, and distribute it to them via VS> local area. Winroute did this perfectly. However, when I disconnected from VS> local Internet and started using a modem, calling winroute persistently VS> refuses. Shouts that host not found, etc. Although VS> the "use RAS" checkbox is checked. Then I tried VPOP3, but it VS> can only retrieve mail from one host. Win suffers from exactly the same thing. VS> Mail Server. Is there really not a single program? Or should I write it myself VS> have to??? There is no need to write anything. install Linux. in the standard distribution, there is everything to stir up a mega-server. By the way, I have mail now, it works exactly as you need: it callsschedule on the Internet, picks up mail, and clients already pick it up from the server. Yes, there is a kerio mail server for Windows, everyone seemed to praise it. Let me say goodbye to you Vlad... [Apollo] [hate tele2] [HowLow.Org] [in linux we trust] HowLow_Station phone 274-8229 time 23:00-06:00

Press RESET immediately, Vlad Sotnikov! On Wed, 12 May 04 19:11:41 +0400, Vlad Sotnikov wrote: VS> In short, I'm already fucked! Then I remembered that there is such an echo of a “guru” here VS> :))) In general, the essence of the problem: there is a computer that is connected to two VS> LAN (two network cards) and via a modem to the Internet. Task: necessary VS> collect mail via pop3 via modem from the Internet for different users _c VS> different mailboxes_!, and distribute it to them via LAN. For this you need a mail server. Typically, on unix, a server like this consists of the following components: 1. MTA - Mail Transfer Agent Engaged in non-local message delivery (transfer between cars). Together with MDA (see below) or instead MDA can also provide local delivery. Typically, this is sendmail, exim, etc. programs. In your case (lack of its own domain) works exclusively for transfer of mail outside through the so-called. smarthost and at the reception mail from users. 2. MDA -- Mail Delivery Agent Engaged exclusively in local delivery (roughly speaking, sorts into mailboxes) and message filtering. Typically this role is performed by procmail. In your casecan be used for a variety of filtration purposes and layout of messages in boxes. 3. Client for POP3, IMAP and similar protocols. Needed exclusively for collecting mail from various external servers. Received mail is given to MTA and MDA. 4. Server for POP3, IMAP and similar protocols, which would allow users, mostly non-local, to take or read your mail. Graphically, the operation of the server can be depicted as follows: +-----------------+ +-------------------------+ | remote | | remote SMTP server, | | POP3 server | | for example your server | | (eg mail.ru) | | internet provider | +-----------------+ +-------------------------+ || /\n // || dialup connection // // (fetching mail from dialup connection || external mailboxes) // (sending mail outside) / || +------------+ +-----------------------------------+ | fetchmail | =====> | sendmail | +------------+ +-----------------------------------+ || /\n || ||/ || +-----------+ +------------+ || |POP3 server| <=== | procmail | || | | +------------+ || +-----------+ || || || // // local network local network // (user receives mail) // (sends mail || || user) / || +------------------------------------------+ | MUA (Mail User Agent) of the user, e.g. The Bat! | +------------------------------------------+ It's immediately obvious that the most important element here is the MTA. You have an absent one. Therefore, no VPOP3 or fetchmail without all the rest of the infrastructure is _USELESS_. VS> Winroute did this ideally. He does it somehow strangely. Secondly, it costs money, it requires some keys, crackz and registration via the Internet. No further interesting... VS> stubbornly refuses. Shouts that host not found, etc. Although checkmark VS> "use RAS" is worth it. In general, everything is designed for NT. You have Masdai-98, it was worth mentioningmention. In addition, winroute allows you to specify addresses for which It will make calls to the Internet, and which ones will be considered local. Maybe here under-twisted? Where is the detailed log of what is going on with you? WinRoute doesn't manage it? Tear it down! VS> Win Mail Server suffers from exactly the same thing. Is there really no VS> of one program? Or will I have to write it myself??? All the “software” has already been written a long time ago. Commercial (who will pay?) not interested. So let's go to http://freshmeat.net (bookmark it in browser) and enter in the search bar: "Windows pop3 smtp server". We get a long list... choose: http://www.xmailserver.org/ (I immediately remind you of the location of fetchmail for windows, for XMail IS NOT WORSE -- http://unixmail-w32.sourceforge.net/) XMail is an Internet and intranet mail server featuring an SMTP server, POP3 server, finger server, multiple domains, no need for users to have a real system account, SMTP relay checking, RBL/RSS/ORBS/DUL and custom (IP based and address based) spam protection, SMTP authentication (PLAIN LOGIN CRAM-MD5 POP3-before-SMTP and custom), a POP3 account syncronizer with external POP3 accounts, account aliases, domain aliases, custom mail processing, direct mail files delivery, custom mail filters, mailing lists, remote administration, custom mail exchangers,logging, and multi-platform code. XMail sources compile under GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris and *NT/2K/XP*. License XMail is distributed under *GPL license*, either version 2 or (at your option) any later version. Freebies, that is, are relative. But performance under Windows'98 doubtful. Well, who now will write under the 6-year-old system how long ago? The question arises "how to call the Internet." The solution is exactly how call for W98 is: rundll rnaui.dll,RnaDial "provider" - Call up the "Connection setup" window But it’s not written how to switch off. After all, any NT that has rasdial, in this regard it turns out to be easier... But the W98 simply turns your computer into a pedal-step computer, where everything is done exclusively by pressing various buttons. Terrible... Continuing on XMail: This server was born due to the need of having a free and stable Mail Server to be used inside my old company, which used a Windows Network. I don't like to reinvent the wheel but the need of some special features drive me to start a new project. Probably if I could use a Linux server on my net, I would be able to satisfy my needs without write code, but this is not my case. It should be also portable to other OSs, like Linux and other Unixes. Another reason that drove me to write XMail is the presence of the same steps in setting up a typical mail server, ie:sendmail + qpopper + fetchmail if one needs SMTP, POP3 and external synchronization, or: sendmail + qpopper for only SMTP and POP3 (I've quoted sendmail, qpopper and fetchmail, but there are many other packages you can use to reach these needs). With XMail you get an all-in-one package with a central administration that can simplify the above common steps. REQUIREMENTS * Any version of Linux that has glibc. * Windows NT with ws2_32.dll correctly installed. * A working DNS and gateway to the Internet (if you plan to use it). * To build from source for Linux you need any version of gcc and glibc installed. * To build from source for Windows you need MS Visual C++ (project included). * -or- any other working compiler that provides support for the Win32 SDK. ... PS: какого филолог не знает, что правильно "подключё'н", а не "подклю'чен"? (апострофом обозначено ударение, которое при твоём обезъёченном написании съезжает на другую букву).

Press RESET immediately, Paul Malishev! On Thu, 13 May 04 23:09:48 +0400, Paul Malishev wrote: PM> by the way, I have mail now, it works exactly as you need: it calls PM> on schedule on the Internet, picks up mail, and clients already pick it up from the server. PM> for Windows there is a kerio mail server, everyone seemed to praise it. Shift, apparently you have the same "30 days trial" as this one Kerio...

*** Regarding the letter found in the echo MY_MAIL Hello Paul! May 14, 2004 (it was 00:09 then) Paul Malishev in his letter to Vlad Sotnikov wrote: PM> for Windows there is a kerio mail server, everyone seemed to praise it. It seems that this particular thing is built into WinRoute... Vega/ex-Style Group. FIDO: 2:5030/1512 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: vega56@mail.ru ICQ: 144932679

Hello Kirill! May 14, 2004 (it was 09:58 then) Kirill Frolov in his letter to Vlad Sotnikov wrote: VS>> Winroute did this ideally. KF> He does it somehow strangely. Secondly, it costs money, it requires KF> some keys, crackz and registration via the Internet. No further KF> interesting... I have a crack for him... VS>> stubbornly refuses. Shouts that host not found, etc. Although VS>> "use RAS" is checked. KF> In general, everything is designed for NT. You have Masdai-98, it was worth mentioning KF> mention. In addition, winroute allows you to specify addresses for which KF> it will make calls to the Internet, and which ones will be considered local. Maybe KF> is it under-twisted here? In fact, most likely yes. During the first installation he asked me, which address is responsible for connecting to the Internet. However, now, even with reinstallation, he does not ask this question. Most likely, somewhere in the registry wrote it down. But I shouldn’t reinstall Windows because of this??? KF> Where is the detailed log of what you have KF> happening? WinRoute doesn't manage it? Tear it down!No, he keeps approximate logs... KF> PS: what philologist doesn’t know what is correct is “connected” and not KF> "connected"? (the apostrophe indicates the emphasis that, when you KF> when written without objects, moves to another letter). The emphasis doesn't go anywhere. It stays on the last syllable, just This is not shown graphically. And give me an example when in Russian Is the stress displayed graphically? Thank God we don't speak Spanish :) Vega/ex-Style Group. FIDO: 2:5030/1512 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: vega56@mail.ru ICQ: 144932679

*** responded to a message from HOWLOW.CARBON (Carbons). Greetings, Vlad, reading this nonsense... I remember 14 May 04 21:23, Vlad Sotnikov spoke with Paul Malishev... Well then we will answer: PM>> for Windows there is a kerio mail server, it seems to be all PM>> praised. VS> It seems that this particular thing is built into WinRoute... kerio firewall yeah... But this is the first time I’ve heard about mailserver being built in there. although I could be wrong Let me say goodbye to you Vlad... [Apollo] [hate tele2] [HowLow.Org] [in linux we trust] HowLow_Station phone 274-8229 time 23:00-06:00

Hello, Vlad! 14 May 04, 21:23, Vlad Sotnikov wrote to Paul Malishev on the topic "help!!!": PM>> for Windows there is a kerio mail server, everyone seemed to praise it. VS> It seems that this particular thing is built into WinRoute... Now it is a separate product. Happy connections. Roman.

*** Regarding the letter found in the echo MY_MAIL Hello Paul! May 17, 2004 (it was 10:18 pm then) Paul Malishev in his letter to Vlad Sotnikov wrote: PM>>> for Windows there is a kerio mail server, it seems to be all PM>>> praised. VS>> It seems that this particular thing is built into WinRoute... PM> kerio firewall yeah... PM> but this is the first time I’ve heard about mailserver being built in. PM> although I could be wrong You can. As far as I remember, when you turn on the mail server in Winrout A sign pops up with a proud inscription that you are using the most popular kerio mail server. You can check the box so that this message does not appear again, and as a rule, everyone forgets about it if winroute is not reinstalled (and The system is stable and does not require frequent reinstallation)... Vega/ex-Style Group. FIDO: 2:5030/1512 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: vega56@mail.ru ICQ: 144932679

Hello Paul! 17 May 04, 22:18, Paul Malishev wrote to Vlad Sotnikov on the topic "help!!!": PM>>> for Windows there is a kerio mail server, it seems to be all PM>>> praised. VS>> It seems that this particular thing is built into WinRoute... PM> kerio firewall yeah... PM> but this is the first time I’ve heard about mailserver being built in. PM> although I could be wrong That's exactly what you're wrong... WinroutePro contains NAT, firewall, HTTP proxy, pop and smtp servers and other little things... Happy connections. Roman.

Hello Roman! May 19, 2004 (it was 10:05 pm then) Roman Alexandrov in his letter to Paul Malishev wrote: PM>> kerio firewall yeah... PM>> but this is the first time I’ve heard about mailserver being built in. PM>> although I could be wrong RA> You are exactly wrong.... WinroutePro contains NAT, a firewall, RA> HTTP proxy, pop and smtp servers and other little things... Also DNS and DHCP. Very convenient. :) Vega/ex-Style Group. FIDO: 2:5030/1512 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: vega56@mail.ru ICQ: 144932679

Press RESET immediately, Vlad Sotnikov! On Sat, 15 May 04 12:46:00 +0400, Vlad Sotnikov wrote: KF>> it will make calls to the Internet, and which ones will be considered local. Maybe KF>> is it under-twisted here? VS> Actually, most likely, yes. When I first installed it VS> asked which address is responsible for connecting to the Internet. However, now VS> even when reinstalling, it does not ask this question. Most likely somewhere VS> added to the registry. But I shouldn’t reinstall Windows because of this??? http://zeus.sai.msu.ru:7000/internet/wingate30/wg3_18.shtml

Hello Vlad! I am responding to your letter dated May 12, 2004, then written by Vlad Sotnikov to All, and then it was 20:11:41. VS> In short, I'm already fucked! Then I remembered that there is such an echo of a “guru” here VS> :))) In general, the essence of the problem: there is a computer that is connected to two VS> LAN (two network cards) and via a modem to the Internet. Task: necessary VS> collect mail via pop3 via modem from the Internet for different users _c VS> different mailboxes_!, and distribute it to them via LAN. This is ideal ( ) VS> Win Mail Server also suffers. Is there really not a single program? Or myself VS> will you have to write it??? I used "OFFICE MAIL SERVER" for this; it called me at night. by mail, and then ZeMysh picked up the mail via LAN as with POP3 and gave the mail for dispatch next night. All the best, Alexander.

Hello Konstantin! May 13, 2004 (it was 11:15 pm then) Konstantin Butorin in his letter to Vlad Sotnikov wrote: KB> Isn’t it possible to configure baht as a server? And then let the baht distribute KB> baht clients all mail. That's it. Bat clients. What if the user has Outlook? And in general: this very clumsy. Protocols were invented to provide universal interaction between different programs. And so I can configure, for example, converting incoming letters into .txt, and offer users to pick them up from network folder (closed with a user password). The server system in The Bat is the same nonsense. Vega/ex-Style Group. FIDO: 2:5030/1512 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: vega56@mail.ru ICQ: 144932679

Hello, Alexander! May 23, 2004 (it was 10:31 pm then) Aleksandr Majorov in his letter to Vlad Sotnikov wrote: Question not on the topic of the conference: when using ZX-LINK with Kempston, I So I understand I can’t use it? Vega/ex-Style Group. FIDO: 2:5030/1512 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: vega56@mail.ru ICQ: 144932679

Hello Vlad! I am responding to your letter dated May 24, 2004, then written by Vlad Sotnikov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 8:48:06 on the clock. ( ) VS> Question not on the topic of the conference: when using ZX-LINK VS> Kempston, as I understand it, I can’t use it? Of course. Yes, and it’s somehow strange when using a ZX-LINK joystick It’s impossible to use at all, because ZX-LINK does not work with the joystick. Or do you already have multitasking on your Speck? %) And so, the joystick and link will interfere with each other, it’s better not to use them at the same time include. All the best, Alexander. (500:812/2)

Press RESET immediately, Vlad Sotnikov! On Mon, 24 May 04 07:48:06 +0400, Vlad Sotnikov wrote: VS> Question not on the topic of the conference: when using ZX-LINK with Kempston, VS> As I understand it, I can’t use it? At the same time, you can’t. Connect one or the other alternately technically possible, practically depends... I suggest switching to using ZX-Link via the COM port. Speed is not much lower.

*** Regarding the letter found in the echo MY_MAIL Hello Kirill! May 25, 2004 (it was 11:12 pm then) Kirill Frolov in his letter to Vlad Sotnikov wrote: VS>> Question not on the topic of the conference: when using ZX-LINK VS>> Kempston, as I understand it, I can’t use it? KF> At the same time - you cannot. Alternately connect one or the other KF> technically possible, practically depends... KF> I suggest switching to using ZX-Link via a COM port. Speed KF> not much lower. Or the Sinclair Joistick. In the end :) Vega/ex-Style Group. FIDO: 2:5030/1512 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: vega56@mail.ru ICQ: 144932679

Hello Vlad! Monday May 24, 2004 08:48:06 Vlad Sotnikov -> Aleksandr Majorov: VS> Question not on the topic of the conference: when using VS> ZX-LINK Kempston, I VS> so I understand I can’t use it? Is it even needed? After 10 years of Spectrumism, I still haven’t gotten used to it to the joystick... [REAL ZX]

Hello Nikolaj! 26 May 04, 21:37, Nikolaj Amosov wrote to Vlad Sotnikov on the topic "help!!!": VS>> Question not on the topic of the conference: when using VS>> ZX-LINK Kempston, I VS>> so I understand I can’t use it? NA> Is it even needed? After 10 years of Spectrumism, I still haven’t gotten used to it NA> to the joystick... Hmm.. I can hardly imagine a spec without a joystick. Happy connections. Roman.

Press RESET immediately, Vlad Sotnikov! On Wed, 26 May 04 10:21:35 +0400, Vlad Sotnikov wrote: VS> Or on Sinclair Joistick. In the end :) Have you already forgotten about the arrow going into the corner? In addition, the COM port is also available in Windows-NT - you might be interested in this.

Hello Kirill! I am responding to your letter dated May 25, 2004, then written by Kirill Frolov to Vlad Sotnikov, and then it was 23:12:07. ( ) KF> I suggest switching to using ZX-Link via a COM port. Speed not KF> much lower. Hmm, well, in this case, there is no need to do anything on the part of the PC. And from Speck's side? Although... Install ADM202 + the simplest Atmel one (for example) microcontroller and can be made very beautifully and simply... Speck will throw bytes at the controller, and it will do everything itself buffer (128 bytes is enough :) and can even generate some kind of thread Interrupts for Speck. All the best, Alexander.

Press RESET immediately, Aleksandr Majorov! On Sat, 29 May 04 11:58:10 +0400, Aleksandr Majorov wrote: KF>> I suggest switching to using ZX-Link via a COM port. Speed not KF>> much lower. AM> Hmm, well, in this case, there is no need to do anything from the PC side. AM> And from Speck's side? The minimum is software emulation. If absolutely minimum, then ANY SCORPIO ALREADY HAS A SERIAL PORT ON BOARD! To connect printer which. There is also a way out (works only if everything transistors are sealed and -5V applied), and input (bit 5, FE port). I think X-modem, as a synchronous protocol (request-response-request-response...), will be able to work safely via a 3-wire interface, without flow control signals when every second letter in the terminal disappears (Spectrum does not receive reception 100% of the time). In the terminal of course You can’t work with a 3-wire interface, so MMD 4.xx is from a PC you can't control it. That is, there is a more complex version of the interface with software emulation. AM> Although... Install ADM202 + the simplest Atmel (for example) AM> microcontroller can be made very beautifully and simply... AM> Speck will throw bytes into the controller, and it will do everything itself AM> buffer (128 bytes is enough :) and can even generate some kind of thread AM> interruptions for Speck. Yes, K. Karimov’s diagram (at the end of the letter), which has a keyboard and mouse - no one interferes instead of the mouse, or in addition, connect PC... How about posting MMD on the Internet? But in ZX.SPECTRMU echo FAQ There is nothing to refer to, nothing at all, not even Virtual TR-DOS. Well there is a picture, MMD pairs of different versions, drivers, ZXLINK description interface with the program, description from the 6th format... Food for thought: = Emulators hang out here (2:5030/827.2) ==================== ZX.SPECTRUM = Msg: 2185 of 2198 -788 From : Kamil Karimov 2:5080/500.12 07 Jan 03 To : ALL 12 Jan 03 Subj: mouse controller =================================================================================== Hello, ALL! I look at the screen and see: Kirill Frolov is drawing something Vadim Chumachenko! VC>> what about the mouse controller circuit on Atmel? did you finish it? available in VC>> Stakhov diagram (for ps/2 mouse). KF> Hardly. ============================================================ PS/2 -> Kempston Mouse Adapter v2.0(c) 1999-2000 Studio STALL (Eugene Stahov) (c) 2003 Kamil Karimov E-mail: k2k@list.ru ============================================ DD1 ┌───┐ A7──────┤1& │ A6──────┤2 │ A4──────┤3 │8 A3──────┤4 0─────┐ A2──────┤5 │ │ A1──────┤6 │ │ A0──────┤11 │ │ /M1──────┤12 │ │ └───┘ │ DD2A │ 5┌───┐ DD2B 9┌───┐ VD1 1┌───┐ └──┤1 ├────────┬──────┤1 ├───|<|─── /WAIT A5──────┤1 ├────────┤ │6 │ ┌───┤ │8 /IORQ────┤ │3 4└───┘ │ │ 10└───┘ 2└───┘ │ │ DD2C VD2 │ ├───────────|>|──────────┐ /CS │ │ LED │ ┌───────────────────────┴──│────────────────────┐ ┌┴┐ │ ┌───────────────────────┘ │ │ │R3 /WR────────│──│─────────────────────────┐ +5V│ └┬┘1K │ │ ┌────│────────────────┤ │ │ │ │ 1┌───┬─────┬───┐20│ │1┌───┬────┬───┐20 │ ─┴─ /RES───────│──│───0/RS│ A │VCC├──┘ └─┤DIR│ <> │VCC├─┘ │ MDAT─┬─────│──│───┤PD0│ T │PB7├─────────┤ A1│ │ G 0───┘ MCLK─│───┬─│──│───┤PD1│ 9 │PB6├─────────┤ A2│ │B1 ├─────D7 │ │ │ │ ─┤X2 │ 0 │PB5├─────────┤ A3│ │B2 ├─────D6 7MHZ─│───│─│──│───┤X1 │ S │PB4├─────────┤ A4│ │B3 ├─────D5 A5 │ │ └───┤PD3│ 3 │PB2├─────────┤ A6│ │B5 ├─────D3 P8 A 10 │ │ ┌───┤GND│ │PD6├──┐ ┌──┤GND│ АП6│B8 ├─────D0 │ │ │ 10└───┴─────┴───┘11│ │10└───┴───┴───┘11 │ │ ─┴─ LO3 │ ─┴─ LO4 /RD──│───│────────────────────────── │ └──┐ ┌┴┐R1 ┌┴┐R2 │ │8K2 │ │8K2 └┬┘ └┬┘ └──────┴────────+5V Расположение контактов в PS/2 ┌──┐ ┌──┐ N/C 6 ──── ┌┘* └─┘ *└┐ ─── 5 MCLK +5V 4 ──── │* *│ ─── 3 GND N/C 2 ──── └─┐* *┌─┘ ─── 1 MDAT └─────┘ Вид на розетку со стороны контактов (не со стороны пайки) Microschemy: DD1 1533ЛА2 (74ALS30) DD2 1533ЛЛ1 (74ALS32) DD3 AT90S2313 (или AT90S1200) DD4 1533АП6 (74ALS245) Дешифрация жесткая: задействованы все младшие биты адреса Z80. (но ето не не обобачается, во меняко через можно обойтись меньшим настроем разразов, незадействованные входы соединить с +5V). апример у меня в Кворуме для дешифрации установка адреса A7,A6,A5 and A4, the rest of the address line inputs are connected with +5V. Шека раскладна на подключения к компьютеру, не имеющему конфликтов по порту #DF. If there is a conflict, it is necessary to port #FFassemble the control circuit /IORQGE :(. How is the interface with the computer implemented? At initial power-up or on the /RESET signal, the controller checks the mouse connection, and the VD2 LED (LED) lights up. When the mouse is connected, after approximately 0.5 seconds, the LED goes off (this is the time of the internal mouse test), this is a sign the controller is ready for operation. If the mouse is not connected or is faulty, the LED continues to light, and when software polls the mouse from its ports code 255 is read (no mouse). You can connect the mouse at any time, and the LED goes out, and button codes and buttons begin to be read from the mouse ports X and Y coordinates. At a controller clock speed of 7 megahertz, the sleep cycle lasts about 3 microseconds. This version of the program emulates the operation of a Campston mouse - that is, it provides information about pressing two buttons and two coordinates. Ports: #fadf (64223) => D0 - right, D1 - left buttons (0 - press). #fedf (65427) => also buttons #fbdf (64479) => X coordinate (increasing code to the right) #ffdf (65503) => Y coordinate (up code increase) When you turn it on for the first time, if you do not touch the mouse, the ports should read codes: 255 128 96 10 PRINT AT 0.0; 20 PRINT IN 64223;" ";: REM 255 30 PRINT IN 64479;" ";: REM 128 40 PRINT IN 65503;" ";: REM 96 50 PLOT IN 64479,IN 65503/1.5 60 GOTO 10The scheme provides the ability not only to read, but also write information to the controller, which allows you to control its mode of operation. In particular, it is possible to provide a connection to the controller mice in 3D standard - Mouse or Intelli Mouse. In this case, you can read the Z coordinate via port #fedf (65427) and codes for pressing additional buttons. By adding one chip (TM2 dual trigger), you can program the controller directly in the Spectrum. The scheme turned out to be universal, and its possibility reprogramming allows you to connect to the Spectrum via 2 (I2C or RS232) or 3 (SPI) wire interface: - external modem (via AD232 level conversion circuit); - ADC; - DAC; - digital temperature sensors; - flash memory; -+--+--+- firmware codes version 2.0 -+--+--+- :1000000016C09398869B04C00AC0826082601895CF :1000100097BB58BB849B03C038BB859948BB939A58 :100020000000829BFECF9398F7BA98BB1895FF24E7 :100030009FEFF7BA98BB08E001BB08E002BB00E401 :100040000BBF02E005BF00E809BF04E00EBDF89455 :100050000FED0DBF5FEF30E840E68827939A2FEF52 :10006000689499D062D098F337D088F32A3F79F713 :1000700087D032D060F330D050F324EFE89487D0AB :1000800054D028F380D028D010F32A3F01F793985A :10009000789414E11A9551F424EFE89478D045D07F :1000A00018F071D019D008F4D2CF1AE070D014D063 :1000B00088F3D22E68D010D068F3622F64D00CD0B1 :1000C00048F3722F360F470F5FEFD0FA51F9D1FA8C:1000D00050F903E05027DDCF8898899881FD23C02F :1000E0008099FCCF19D0F8F011D0E8F018E014D0C6 :1000F000D0F080990894279509D0A8F01A95B9F7FF :100100000BD088F003D078F007D068F081FD0BC0E9 :10011000819BFCCF8894089581FD05C08199FCCF17 :10012000889408958898089408959198899A20D081 :100130009098889A1FD089981DD018E0EDDF90F331 :10014000279510F0889A01C08898E0DF58F31A9537 :10015000A9F7E2DF40F388980EF0889AD7DF10F312 :10016000DBDF08F38898D2DFF0F2D6DFE0F2CECF03 :1001700004E601C005E00A9500C000C0E1F708955B :1001800000270DBD0BC00DEF0DBD04E507C005EF49 :100190000DBD02E503C00AEC0DBD08E90CBD8D7F65 :0201A0000895C0 :00000001FF Всего хорошего, ALL! -+- ∙ . Sherwood Station . ∙ + Origin: ...... (Fido 2:5080/500.12) Newsgroups: fido7.zx.spectrum From: Kamil Karimov X-Comment-To: Sergey Cherbynin Date: Fri, 05 Dec 03 21:46:57 +0300 Subject: Профи Message-ID: <1070660978@p12.f500.n5080.z2.ftn> Hello, Sergey! Продолжим разговор о контроллере клавиатуры для Spectrum. KK>> Я уже писал, что схема этого контроллера универсальна. KK>> Она после небольшой доработки, прекрасно подходит для KK>> подключения IBM-ой AT клавиатуры. KK>> Если ALL желает могу кинуть в эху.SC> Of course we want, but it’s even better to make one controller for mouse and keyboard. AT> Is there a circuit that allows you to simultaneously connect a PS/2 mouse and keyboard AT> at the same time? What about the situation with additional AT> keys? It seems to me that the most important thing is to connect the keyboard, that’s all the rest are additional bells and whistles. The proposed scheme allows fully emulate the operation of the Spectrum key matrix using while for decrypting the keyboard port and for buffering circuit elements that are already on the board. All keys are scanned perfectly, the only problem is to decide which one to hang what on. AT> PS/2 connector is used to connect only a keyboard and mouse? AT> Is it possible to connect a modem, etc. through it? I threw a modified mouse controller circuit into the echo, which emulates a modem connection to the Spectrum using the Kondratiev scheme. In practice, this comes down to changing the base address of the port controller (A4 and A5 are swapped), and the output is PS/2 TTL <-> RS232 level converter is connected (for example MAX232). In the existing firmware version for the modem a 126-byte receive buffer has been implemented, which greatly simplifies development of programs for working with a modem.By the way, this circuit is a full-fledged COM port, working using the XON/XOF protocol. AT> Is it possible to immediately modify the circuit for programming AT> straight from the spec? It's possible. ==== zxkbd10.txt =============================== IBM PC keyboard -> ZX Spectrum keyboard v1.0 (c) 2003 Kamil Karimov E-mail:k2k@list.ru =============================================================================== DD1A DD1B 1┌───┐ 4┌───┐ VD1 /RDFE─────────┬──────┬───┤& 0───────────────┤& 0──────┤<├──── /WAIT │ └───┤LA3│3 ┌──────┬────┤LA3│6 │ 2└───┘ │ R1 ┌┴┐ 5└───┘ +5V │ │ 1K │ │ R2..R4 │ │ │ └┬┘ VD2 10K ┌──┼──┐ │ ┌───────────────┘ └──┤>├───┐ ┌┴┐┌┴┐┌┴┐ │ │ \ ─┴─ │ ││ ││ │ │ │ +5V └┬┘└┬┘└┬┘ │ │ DD2 ┌───────────────────────┤ │ │ │ │ │ 1┌───┬─────┬───┐20│ 1┌───┬────┬───┐20│ │ │ └──│──│───0/RS│ MCU │VCC├──┘ ┌──┤DIR│ <> │VCC├──┘ MDAT─┴──│─────│──│───┤PD0│ │PB7├────╫──│──┤ A1│ │/OE0───┐ MCLK────┴─────│──│───┤PD1│ PB6├────╫──│──┤ A2│ │B1 ├───│──KA15 A3│ B2 ├───│──KA14Q1 │ ┌┐ ┌───│──│───┤X1 │ │PB4├────╫──│──┤ A4│ │B3 ├───│──KA13 10MHz C1. 20 - - ├────┴────│─│────┤GND│-2313│PD6├──┐ ║ ├──┤GND│ АП6│B8 ├───│──KA08 - │ │ │ ║ ─┴─ DD3 ├──┤& 0─┐ VD3 │ │ └─║───────────────────────┴──┤ЛА3│ │ /NMI───┤>├─────┘ │ ║ +5V 10└───┘ │ │ ║ │ 1┌───┬────┬───┐20 +5V DD1C│ VD4 │ ║ └──┤DIR│ <> │VCC├───┘ │ /RES───┤>├────────┘ PB0╟─────┤ A1│ │/OE0────────────┘ PB1╟──────┤ A2│ │ B1├────────KD0 PB2╟─────┤ A3│ │ B2├───────KD1 5V C3,C4─┴─ ─┴─ ─┴─ C5 PB4╟──────┤ A5│ │ B4├───────KD3 0.1 ─┬─ ─┬─ ─┬─ 10.0+10V PB5╟─────┤ A6│ │ B5├────────KD4 │ │ │ PB6╟─────┤ A7│ │ B6├─KD5GND───┴────┼────┘ PB7╙─────┤ A8│1533│ B7├─KD6 ─┴─ ┌──┤GND│ AP6│ B8├─KD7 │10└───┴────┴───┘11 ─┴─DD4 Chips: DD1 1533LA3 (74ALS00) DD2 AT90S2313 DD3,DD4 1533AP6 (74ALS245) Pinout of AT-keyboard connectors: 5-pin connector: 1 - MCLK 2 - MDAT 3 - /RESET (not used) 4 - GND 5 - +5V PS/2 connector: ┌──┐ ┌──┐ N/C 6 ──── ┌┘* └─┘ *└┐ ─── 5 MCLK +5V 4 ──── │* *│ ─── 3 GND N/C 2 ──── └─┐* *┌─┘ ─── 1 MDAT └─────┘ View of the socket from the contact side (not from the solder side) Iron: ======= This controller is not connected to the Spectrum system bus, and to the bus of his keyboard. In addition to food, they also go towards it only two signals: 1. Keyboard port reading strobe /RDFE; 2. Z80 processor /Wait signal (pin 24). If the KA08..KA15 keyboard scanning signals come from the bus processor addresses through decoupling diodes, then you need them pull up to +5V with 10 Kom resistors per line. The same applies to signals KD0..KD4. They too must be pulled up to +5V with 10 Kom resistors (usually they already present on the keyboard port inputs). The two remaining free controller outputs can be use to generate /RES and /NMI Spectruma signals.Quartz can be set to any frequency up to 10 MHz, or supplied from the board Spectrum 7 MHz to pin X1 of the microcontroller. Program: ========== Version 1.0 of the controller firmware supports operation with any IBM AT keyboard. Unlike Zonovsky, this controller does not slow down operation Spectrum when the keys are not pressed (WAIT is not generated). Yes and due to the high speed of the AVR, the waiting time very little when the keys are pressed. LED VD2 lights up if at least one key is pressed. You can press up to 8 keys simultaneously (unless they are recognized in the keyboard itself). Layout of additional ones (relative to Spectrum ones) keys are still preliminary (the first thing that came to mind). It is possible, like Zonovsky, to provide several layouts. If anyone has any good ideas about this, it would be my pleasure. I'll listen. I'm still working on the firmware. If anyone wants to assemble the controller upon request, I will send the latest version. With respect to all Speccy fans Kamil Karimov. Newsgroups: fido7.zx.spectrum From: Kamil Karimov X-Comment-To: Aleksey Tarasow Date: Sun, 07 Dec 03 23:41:42 +0300 Subject: Pros Message-ID: <1070840582@p12.f500.n5080.z2.ftn> Hello Alexey! 07 Dec 03 21:46, Aleksey Tarasow -> Kamil Karimov KK>> It seems to me that the most important thing is to connect the keyboard, that’s all KK>> the rest are additional gadgets. AT> I don’t agree. For example, my Camston rat works very poorly. AT> I'm sinning both the controller and the mouse itself, so s AT> I'll be happy to switch to PS/2. Especially if she supports the video. With the keyboard controller circuit that I propose, it is impossible work with several devices at the same time, but it works great fits with any Spectrum circuit, since it uses its elements for decryption and buffering. Moreover, with the support of several devices cannot be provided with no-WAIT mode because it will have to track all calls to the controller from the Z80. And for connecting additional devices, in particular a mouse and a modem I suggest using another controller and also on the AVR. I have already created a circuit for connecting two PS/2 devices, I’m trying it out Connecting a mouse and modem is probably the best option. The circuit provided elements for reprogramming the AVR to the Spectrum itself. All that remains is to write a program to work with this programmer. you'll have to write an assembler for AVR :).With this approach it will be possible to actually reflash this controller for connecting various devices to the Spectrum, which As I understand from the end of the letter, that’s what you wanted. KK>> All keys are polled perfectly, the only problem is KK>> to decide which one to hang what on. AT> There’s nothing to decide here. There are already several standards. AT> I am interested in the Pro standard, ... AT> I can give the distribution by ports. Definitely. KK>> ... TTL <-> RS232 level converter is connected KK>> (for example MAX232). AT> Can you tell us more about the converter? AT> Diagram, description for dummies (that is, for me :). To connect a modem, MDAT(RXD) and MCLK(TXD) lines, via The ADM232 chip is connected to a 9 (or 25) pin connector, which is usually installed on IBM/PC COM ports. DD5 ┌───────────┐ +5v ──────┬───┤16 1├───┐ C1 ─┴─ │ │ ─┴─ C3 ─┬─ │ +5/12v │ ─┬─ └───┤2 3├───┘ X1 ┌───┤6 4├───┐ DB9 DB25 C2 ─┴─ │ │ ─┴─ C4 ┌─┬─────┬──┐─┬─ │ │ ─┬─ │1│ DCD │ 8│ GND ────┬──┴───┤15 5├───┘ ├─┼─────┼──┤ │ ├───────────┤ ┌────┤2│ RD │ 3│ └──────┤10 7o─────────┐ │ ├─┼─────┼──┤ MCLK(TXD)───────┤11 14o─────────│────│────┤3│ TD │ 2│ ├───────────┤ │ │ ├─┼─────┼──┤ ──┤8 9o── ├────│────┤4│ DTR │20│ ┌──┤13 12o───┐ │ │ ├─┼─────┼──┤ │ └───────────┘ │ └────│────┤7│ RTS │ 4│ └──────────────────│──────────┘ ├─┼─────┼──┤ MDAT(RXD)───────────────────────┘ ┌──┤5│ SG │ 7│ ─┴─ └─┴─────┴──┘ DD5 ADM232 - преобразователь уровней для RS232; C1..C4 - 0.1 мкф; X1 - разьем DB9 или DB25 (вилка). KK>> С прошивкой еще работаю. Если кто захочет самостоятельно KK>> собрать контроллер по запросу вышлю последнюю версию. AT> Слушай, а может у тебя готовый контролер можно купить? AT> ОЧЕHЬ желательно что бы он одновременно поддерживал и мышь и клаву. Для контроллера клавиатуры оттрассирована в PCAD плата и отдана на изготовление (пока заказал 10 шт.). К концу месяца должен получить. AT> И такой вопрос AT> 1: is it possible to have several PS/2 ports on one machine at once? AT> Let's say 1 - keyboard, 1 - mouse and 2 - catfish port. AT> If yes, what will be the scheme in this case. Above, as you understand, I propose the option: 1 - separate keyboard controller; 2 - controller for connecting two two-wire devices with the possibility of reprogramming on the Spectrum itself. AT> Question 2: as I understand it, the circuit can be modified to the point of possibility AT> replacing ROM firmware from Speccy? Is that so? It would be very nice AT> and the ability to connect multiple devices AT> (you need to work with the modem - download one, firmware; need AT> work, say with a light pen - load another). Best regards, Kamil. - Emulator people hang out (2:5030/827.2) --------------------------- ZX.SPECTRUM - Msg: 1963 of 2000 From : Wlad Sorokin 2:5020/6664.14 22 Feb 00 To : All 24 Feb 00 Subj: Mouse on ZX - Big Hello All , &#%^& &&^# !!!!!Somehow the Kempston mouse interface diagram from ZX format flew by here, and remembered how once, two years ago, I connected an AMIGA mouse to my Pentagon and thought that I should build something similar again, especially since the software is under the mouse is much bigger now, and the spec with the mouse would be more impressive looked... :) Immediately a problem arose - where to get an Amiga mouse from (from "search" Now it’s a problem to find, and it doesn’t look very good...) as usual, there was no mouse nearby, except for the active one, but I didn’t have the chance to break it :) Well, I decided to connect it... And this is what happened - only 3-4 microcircuits, normal movement speed (unlike many passive mice), fully compatible with Kempston, (except for the missing middle button).... Unfortunately, the circuit uses the processor's WAIT signal, although it does not last long. and only while reading from the port... Below is the circuit and firmware for the PIC16c620 microcontroller, (osc=hs wdt=off) although it will get along well in 16c84,16F83,16c622 etc, the only thing is that all of them should be at an operating frequency greater than 10 MHz... By the way, at the moment I don’t have 561la9 installed... I got 561lp5 in the Pentagon itself, on the video output (it’s like an inverter there) and to check I typed- 10 PLOT IN 64479,IN 65503:GO TO 10 cool! (if you don’t go beyond the top or bottom of the screen) if instead of certain lines the trail goes in an unclear direction -the problem is the clock frequency (a separate quartz will help) and also, on the Spectrum data bus there are resistances of 10k to 5v, so inside they cost a controller too! hence the conclusion...(you can tear it out) and also, 14 MHz from the board - you need to skip through a SEPARATE inverter or hang additional quartz on 15-16 legs of PIC-a (from these legs you will also have to install two 10-30 pF capacitors to ground) By the way, with this solution you can remove the “native” quartz from the board... ps. The firmware is written for 14 MHz, but it works fine at 14.31818 MHz (fortunately there are a lot of such quartz on dead 286-386) The Wait signal sometimes needs to be passed through a diode (plus on 24n.Z80) P.P.S. This is a beta release! System bus || || ||-A10-------------------------+ ||-A8------------------------+ | ||-RESET---------+ x+5v | | x+5v || 4| |14 | | | || +---++-++---+ | | | ||-D0-------6|Rb0|CPU|Ra0|18--+ | | ||-D1-------7|Rb1|IC1|Ra1|19----+ | ||-D2-------8|Rb2| |Ra2|1----------)-----+ ||-D3-------9|Rb3| |Ra3|2------+ | | From mouse ||-D4------10|Rb4|pic|Ra4|3----+ | +----+|//_ ||-D5------11|Rb5|16c|---| | | (o o o|o o) ||-D6------12|Rb6|620|xt.|15 | | o o|o o / ||-D7------13|Rb7| |xt.|16-+ | | | || +---+-+-+---+ | | | GND || 5| | | | || __ GND | | | || |1 | | | |||-14mHz■--+ o--------------+ | | || |__| | | || | | || +---+ | | ||-Wait-11-+=1 +12-------------+-)-------------+ || |IC4+13---------------+ | || +---+ | || || +---+ | ||-A5----1-+ 1 |9 +---+ +---+ | ||-IORQ--2-+ o-------3-+ & |6 +---11-+ 1 |10 | ||-RD----8-+IC2| +---4-+ o--+---12-+ o---+ || +---+ | +-5-+IC3| +-13-+IC2| || | | +---+ | +---+ ||-A15-------------+ | +---------+ ||-A12---------------+ | || +---+ | ||-A0■■■■1■| & | | IC1-PIC16c620/20p ||-A1■■■■2■| o--------+ IC2-561ле10 ||-A2■■■-8■|IC3| IC3-561ла9 || +---+ IC4-555лп5 || || Copyright '2000 Wlad Sorokin || Spacesoft Hackers Group || Last edition 22.02.2000 22:21 pm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rigin: Stolen ??? He had to bet CLIFFORD !!! (2:5020/6664.14)

*** Regarding the letter found in the echo MY_MAIL Hello Kirill! May 28, 2004 (it was 02:01 then) Kirill Frolov in his letter to Vlad Sotnikov wrote: VS>> Or on Sinclair Joistick. In the end :) KF> Have you already forgotten about the arrow going into the corner? In addition, COM port KF> is also available in Windows-NT - you might be interested in this. This is very interesting to me. When I finish the main OS modules, then maybe Maybe I’ll add a dog and a COM port. Vega/ex-Style Group. FIDO: 2:5030/1512 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: vega56@mail.ru ICQ: 144932679

Hello Kirill! May 28, 2004 (it was 02:01 then) Kirill Frolov in his letter to Vlad Sotnikov wrote: VS>> Or on Sinclair Joistick. In the end :) KF> Have you already forgotten about the arrow going into the corner? Well, I’ll reset port 31. Anyway, this won’t make Kempston work for me. So you'll still have to use Sinclair. Vega/ex-Style Group. FIDO: 2:5030/1512 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: vega56@mail.ru ICQ: 144932679

Hello, Alexander! May 29, 2004 (it was 12:58 then) Aleksandr Majorov in his letter to Kirill Frolov wrote: KF>> I suggest switching to using ZX-Link via a COM port. KF>> The speed is not much lower. AM> Hmm, well, in this case, there is no need to do anything from the PC side. AM> And from Speck's side? AM> Although... Install ADM202 + the simplest Atmel (for example) AM> microcontroller can be made very beautifully and simply... AM> Speck will throw bytes into the controller, and it will do everything itself AM> buffer (128 bytes is enough :) and can even generate AM> some interrupt threads for Speck. Will you write? :) Vega/ex-Style Group. FIDO: 2:5030/1512 ZXNET: 500:812/19 E-mail: vega56@mail.ru ICQ: 144932679

Hello Kirill! I am responding to your letter dated May 30, 2004, then written by Kirill Frolov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 1:28:55 on the clock. ( ) KF>>> I suggest switching to using ZX-Link via a COM port. Speed not KF>>> much lower. AM>> Hmm, well, in this case there is no need to do anything from the PC side. AM>> And from Speck? KF> Minimum - software emulation. If absolutely minimum, then ANY KF> SCORPIO ALREADY HAS A SERIAL PORT ON BOARD! To connect KF> printer which. There is also a way out (works only if everything KF> transistors are sealed and -5V is applied), and input (bit 5, FE port). Whoa, give it -5, seal the transies. By the way, you can go a little higher than the “very minimum”: install a converter TTL - RS-232 (one chip and 4 connectors, only +5 is required for operation). KF> I think X-modem is like a synchronous protocol (request-response-request-response...), KF> will be able to work safely via a 3-wire interface, without KF> flow control signals when every second letter is in the terminal KF> disappears (Spectrum does not receive reception 100% of the time). Maybe no problem. KF> Of course, you cannot work with a 3-wire interface in the terminal, KF> so you can’t control MMD 4.xx from a PC. That is, there is a more complex one KF> interface option with software emulation. That's not entirely true. I have assembled a controller (thermostat + a bunch of other things) in Atmel chip, connected to the PC via RS-232 via three wires. Well, maybe from the outside PC readiness signals are closed. Works without problems both through my control program and through any terminal. There is an example of a piece of hardware in the book, also with communication via RS-232, there too Three wires are used and no problems. AM>> Although... Install ADM202 + the simplest Atmel (for example) AM>> a microcontroller can be made very beautifully and simply... AM>> Speck will throw bytes into the controller, and it will do everything itself AM>> buffer (128 bytes is enough :) and can even generate some kind of thread AM>> interruptions for Speck. KF> Yes, K. Karimov’s diagram (at the end of the letter), which has a keyboard and KF> with the mouse - no one interferes instead of the mouse, or additionally, KF> connect PC... Yeah, PD0 / PD1 needs to be unhooked and connected to the level converter. KF> How about posting MMD on the Internet? But in ZX.SPECTRMU echo FAQ KF> there is nothing to refer to, nothing at all, not even Virtual TR-DOS. I don't mind. Where to throw? Or will you pour it where you need it? KF> Here is a picture, MMD of a couple of different versions, Hmm, I don’t have any pictures, I’ll have to do it :) We'll find different versions. KF> drivers, description of the ZXLINK interface with the program, It's all there. KF> description from the 6th format... Hmm, I don’t know if I have it somewhere... KF> Food for thought: ( ) I've played enough with my controller, so this information is of no use to me. won't help much :-)) All the best, Alexander.

Press RESET immediately, Aleksandr Majorov! On Sun, 30 May 04 18:09:56 +0400, Aleksandr Majorov wrote: KF>> Minimum - software emulation. If absolutely minimum, then ANY KF>> SCORPIO ALREADY HAS A SERIAL PORT ON BOARD! To connect KF>> printer which. There is also a way out (works only if everything KF>> transistors are sealed and -5V is applied), and input (bit 5, FE port). AM> Whoa, give it -5, seal the transies. Well, you can get completely impudent and connect via TTL. Only programmatically invert the signal. And what’s amazing is that it will most likely even work (there the threshold is somewhere around +3V), although in general it depends on the motherboard of the device. You can also get -5 from the COM port itself (pisish). Well that's all abnormal perversions already... AM> By the way, you can go a little higher than the “very minimum”: install a converter AM> TTL - RS-232 (one chip and 4 connectors, only +5 is required for operation). That's it. The chip has 2 channels, so there is still room for CTS/RTS. KF>> Of course, you cannot work with a 3-wire interface in the terminal, KF>> so you can’t control MMD 4.xx from a PC. That is, there is a more complex one KF>> interface option with software emulation. AM> Not entirely true. AM> I have assembled a controller (thermostat + a bunch of other things) in Atmel AM> chip, connected to the PC via RS-232 via three wires. Well, maybe with AM> PC side readiness signals are closed. Works without problems through my AM> control program, and through any terminal. You don't understand. The situation does not arise either in the PC or in your controller, when one of the devices is not ready to receive. And in the Spectrum, it's ready for reception while in the driver, in the port polling cycle it is spinning. Why In fact, in Vicommka an array of zeros is transmitted before each packet -- so that it does not go from the driver to the MMD. And in RS232 every byte appears at an arbitrary point in time and is not preceded by any signals. In MMD, in the terminal half of the letters disappear (from PC) - I tried it on 38400. But on PC it’s normal, nothing disappears. KF>> How about posting MMD on the Internet? But in ZX.SPECTRMU echo FAQ KF>> there is nothing to refer to, nothing at all, not even Virtual TR-DOS. AM> I don't mind. Where to throw? Or will you pour it where you need it? You make a website. Well there, the main page, picture, description, download, copyright... And put it somewhere. KF>> description from the 6th format... AM> Hmm, I don’t know if I have it somewhere... Then let's pose the question differently - how to get it out of there? We came up with all sorts of formats... %-(

Hello Kirill! I am responding to your letter dated May 31, 2004, then written by Kirill Frolov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 0:50:47 on the clock. ( ) AM>> Whoa, give it -5, seal the transies. KF> Well, you can be completely impudent and connect via TTL. Only programmatically KF> signal invert. And what’s amazing is that it will most likely even work. KF> (there the threshold is somewhere around +3V), although in general it depends on the motherboard of the puss. Yeah, according to the descriptions, it might work. But not on all motherboards. Therefore, you should not do this. ( ) AM>> By the way, you can go a little higher than the “very minimum”: install a converter AM>> TTL - RS-232 (one chip and 4 connectors, only +5 is required for operation). KF> That's it. The chip has 2 channels, so there is still room for CTS/RTS. Actually, 4. Two “there” and two “back”. Or did you call a couple of converters a “channel” at once? ( ) AM>> Works without problems both through my control program and through any AM>> terminal. KF> You don't understand. The situation does not arise either in the PC or in your controller, KF> when one of the devices is not ready to receive. And in the Spectrum, it’s ready KF> to receive while in the driver, in the port polling cycle it is spinning. Why KF> actually in the vicommka an array of zeros is transmitted before each packet -- KF> so that it does not go from the driver to the MMD. And in RS232 every byte appears KF> at an arbitrary point in time and is not preceded by any signals. KF> In MMD, in the terminal half of the letters disappear (from PC) - I tried it, at 38400. I immediately suggested using the microcontroller RAM as a receiving buffer. 128 (or rather less) bytes - IMHO they will improve the situation. ( ) KF>>> How about posting MMD on the Internet? But in ZX.SPECTRMU echo FAQ KF>>> there is nothing to refer to, nothing at all, not even Virtual TR-DOS. AM>> I don't mind. Where to throw? Or will you pour it where you need it? KF> You make a website. Well there, home page, picture, description, KF> download, copyright... And put it somewhere. The site has been around for a long time, although not on Speck’s topics. Although the site structure designed with reserve, you can easily make a “subsection”. Is it necessary? this? KF>>> description from the 6th format... AM>> Hmm, I don’t know if I have it somewhere... KF> Then let's pose the question differently - how to get it out of there? KF> We came up with all sorts of formats... %-( I tore something out, even from several rooms. I tore out the text with a debugger and launched the "decryptor". Hmm, that was a long time ago... :) All the best, Alexander.

Hello Vlad! I am responding to your letter dated May 30, 2004, then written by Vlad Sotnikov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 12:18:33 on the clock. ( ) KF>>> I suggest switching to using ZX-Link via a COM port. ( ) AM>> Although... Install ADM202 + the simplest Atmel (for example) AM>> a microcontroller can be made very beautifully and simply... AM>> Speck will throw bytes into the controller, and it will do everything itself AM>> buffer (128 bytes is enough :) and can even generate VS> Will you write? :) What exactly should I write? I can sketch a diagram, especially since FK0 threw samples schemes Can you draw the firmware for the controller? Yes, no problem with that. But what to debug on? Should I somehow buy a controller and solder a couple of chips? lazy :) All the best, Alexander.

Press RESET immediately, Aleksandr Majorov! On Mon, 31 May 04 22:10:13 +0400, Aleksandr Majorov wrote: AM>>> By the way, you can put it a little higher than the “absolute minimum”: AM>>> TTL - RS-232 converter (one chip and 4 connectors, required for operation AM>>> only +5). KF>> That's it. The chip has 2 channels, so there is still room for CTS/RTS. AM> Actually 4. Two “there” and two “back”. AM> Or did you call a couple of converters a “channel” at once? 4, 2, what's the difference. I mean, one chip is enough in order to connect the spec with software emulation (38400, 115200 it’s possible, but unreliable...) RX and TX here and there, CTS there (in the center) and from there (from PC) DTR. In the original 128th spec it was also like this, connected to AY. But it was not DTR, but RTS. This is to connect two specs in this way it was possible without problems. And since the PC is always ready to receive, RTS is like wouldn't be very necessary. And DTR is useful as a “reset” signal, so that without in order to fence off a complex link-level protocol, it was always possible bring the spec into a state known to the PC. Although this is probably not too principled... AM> I immediately suggested using the microcontroller RAM as a receiving buffer. AM> 128 (more precisely less) bytes - IMHO they will improve the situation. And it will complicate it at the same time. Let's look at the case of Vega: converter he solders it somehow and writes a driver for the spec, especially since it’s ready Yes, just adapt the ports for his case. And write and debug software for the controller, debug the hardware (same converter, plus controller, plus some kind of interface with spec), write and debug software for spec... First of all, it’s harder, it’s just much more work. Except Moreover, the task turns into an impossible one, because some qualifications are already needed, tools and devices, software tools. It turns out too difficult if you use a controller. I still understand this justified when the controller performs any of its functions in parallel (in terms of speed, it will be faster than the spec...), for example, a controller keyboard and/or mouse. And /just for the sake of the interface/ with a pussy - this is, In my opinion, it's already too much. And how much will he improve the situation there - well, terminal then quickly, but when transferring a file it’s almost without difference. Well, let it be 10%. The game is clearly not worth the candle. KF>> You make a website. Well there, home page, picture, description, KF>> download, copyright... And put it somewhere. AM> The site has been around for a long time, although not on Speck topics. Although the site structure AM> is designed with reserve, you can easily create a “subsection”. Is it just necessary AM> is this? It is necessary. Otherwise you can’t find Spectrum software on the Internet %-( KF>>>> description from the 6th format... AM>>> Hmm, I don’t know if I have it somewhere... KF>> Then let's pose the question differently - how to get it out of there? KF>> We came up with all sorts of formats... %-( AM> I tore something out, even from several issues. I tore out the text with a debugger and AM> launched the "decryptor". Hmm, it was a long time ago... :) How, how is this done? What kind of decryptor?

Hello Kirill! I am responding to your letter dated 06/01/2004, then written by Kirill Frolov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 6:15:04 on the clock. ( ) AM>> I immediately suggested using the microcontroller RAM as a receiving one AM>> buffer. 128 (more precisely less) bytes - IMHO they will improve the situation. KF> And it will complicate it at the same time. Let's look at the case of Vega: converter KF> he solders it somehow and writes a driver for the spec, especially since it’s ready KF> is, just adapt the ports for its case. KF> And write and debug software for the controller, debug hardware (the same KF> converter, plus controller, plus some kind of interface with a spec), KF> write and debug software for spec... First of all, it’s harder, it’s simple KF> there is much more work. Nonsense. When I wanted to assemble a thermal control system, I bought a book on AVR's. In the book there were a couple of examples of a controller with RS-232 communication, However, I found a similar scheme on the internet. I bought AT90S8035, ADM202. I assembled a circuit on a breadboard: 4 chips, 3 transients for control of coolers and relays. And in a week I wrote and debugged everything! What is most surprising is that communication via RS-232 did not require debugging at all. KF> In addition, the task turns into an impossible one, because some qualifications KF> is already needed, Knowledge of C and a book on AVRs with Asmov mnemonics was enough for me. KF> tools and instruments, Hmm, I have a soldering iron and a tester. That's it, nothing more was needed. KF> software tools. There's plenty of it on the internet. Atmel itself gives away free tools. Plus to The book came with a disk with examples and software. KF> It turns out too complicated if you use a controller. Hmm, is it difficult to install 2...3 chips? KF> I also understand that this is justified when the controller executes in parallel KF> any of its functions (in terms of speed, it will be faster than a spec...), KF> for example a keyboard and/or mouse controller. And /just for the sake of the interface/ KF> with a pussy - this, in my opinion, is already too much. And who’s stopping you from screwing something else onto it later? KF> And how much will it improve the situation there - well, KF> terminal then quickly, and when transferring a file it’s almost without KF> differences. Well, let it be 10%. The game is clearly not worth the candle. Hmm, it seems to me that even 10% is a very good figure. ( ) AM>> The site has been around for a long time, although not on Speck topics. Although the site structure AM>> is designed with reserve, you can easily create a “subsection”. Is it just necessary AM>> is this? KF> It is necessary. Otherwise you can’t find Spectrum software on the Internet %-( Hmm... ( ) AM>> I tore something out, even from several issues. I tore out the text with a debugger and AM>> launched the "decryptor". Hmm, it was a long time ago... :) KF> How, how is this done? You launch Format with the shadowbox blocked (I have the button :), then you launch the article, calmly enter the shadows, dump it onto disk... KF> What kind of decryptor? Yes, I wrote it quickly for a couple of hours. There are just service characters there are, like “color setting” and all that. This is what was needed delete. All the best, Alexander.

Hello, Alexander! Saturday 05 June 2004 16:11:05 Aleksandr Majorov -> Kirill Frolov: AM> There's plenty of it on the internet. Atmel itself is giving away free AM> toolkit. Plus to AM> the book came with a disk with examples and software. What is the name of the book and what exactly is the software on the disk? [REAL ZX]

Hello Nikolaj! I am responding to your letter dated 06/05/2004, then written by Nikolaj Amosov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 22:02:29. ( ) AM>> tools. Plus to AM>> the book came with a disk with examples and software. NA> What is the name of the book and what exactly is the software on the disk? Golubtsov M.S. "AVR microcontrollers: from simple to complex" On the disk are the source codes for the examples from the book (as I understand, these are quite real projects from different people), 17 good projects, such as “frequency meter”, “key” for copy protection" (something like HASP, also inserted into LPT), "bookworm" (liked it most, a kind of little book reader, meter memory and 2 (or 4) line screen :) Plus AVR assembler, 3 C compilers. Both free and shareware (without cracks of course, cracks on the internet :) I actually chose the book at random, leafed through 2...3 books, this one seemed more interesting (with more useful information). All the best, Alexander.

Press RESET immediately, Nikolaj Amosov! On Sat, 05 Jun 04 21:02:29 +0400, Nikolaj Amosov wrote: AM>> There’s plenty of it on the internet. Atmel itself is giving away free AM>> tools. Plus to AM>> the book came with a disk with examples and software. NA> What is the name of the book and what exactly is the software on the disk? Really, you need avrasm (available for all platforms) or a compiler -- IAR ($$$) or GNU GCC (freebie). Check out http://www.avrfreaks.net. Simulator-debugger or hardware debugger. As the first AVR-studio (freebie), Proteus ($$$ + emulates the entire circuit). Proteus I can post it with a crack on the internet or on hold in Fido. Hardware debugger - you need to buy a special board for $-a lot. There is a homemade and buggy solution for GNU, search according to "GDB debugger AVR". Documentation and application notes, which can be useful to look at, is taken from the Atmel website. Yes, it is sewn This is all with a homemade program "byte blaster" or you can do it in Mikronik for $20 buy. The software for it is uisp (for unix) or avreal (for everything), search for the latter using the phrase "A. Redchuk avreal". I haven't read the book, but I won't judge. And rotten software on different disks is urgently I don't recommend it.

Hемедленно нажми на RESET, Aleksandr Majorov! On Sat, 05 Jun 04 15:11:05 +0400, Aleksandr Majorov wrote: KF>> плюс контроллер, плюс какой-то интерфейс со спеком), написать и отладить KF>> софт KF>> для спека... Это во-первых тяжелее, просто работы в разы больше. AM> Чушь. AM> Когда мне захотелось собрать систему термоконтроля, то я купил книжку по Так это когда ТЕБЕ захотелос. KF>> Кроме того задача превращается в непосильную, ибо кое-какая квалификация KF>> уже нужна, AM> Мне хватило знания C и книжки по AVR'ам с асмовскими мнемониками. То-есть как минимум нужн быть немного программистом... KF>> Слишком сложно получается, если с контроллером. AM> Хм, поставить 2...3 чипа - это сложно? С всего одним чипом, или без чипов вообще -- безусловно проще. KF>> например контроллера клавиатуры и/или мыши. А /только ради интерфейса/ KF>> с писюком -- это, по-моему, перебор уже. AM> А кто мешает потом что-нить ещё привинтить на него? Отсутствие квалификации. KF>> А насколько он там улучшит ситуацию -- ну в KF>> терминале то по-быстрей, а при передаче файла уже практически без KF>> разницы. Hу 10% пусть будет. Овчинка выделки явно не стоит. AM> Хм, мне кажется что даже 10% - это весьма хорошая цифра. Hет, это тот случай, когда при достижении 90% эффективности сложность начинает расти по экспоненте. Поэтому к 100% стремиться не стоит. Hужно где-то суметь остановиться. AM>>> Я что-то выдирал, аж из нескольких номеров. Выдирал отладчиком текст и AM>>> запускал "расшифровщик". Хм, давно только это было... :) KF>> А как, как это делается? AM> Запускаешь Формат с заблокированным теневиком (кнопка есть у меня :), AM> потом запускаешь статью, спокойно входишь в тень, сбрасываешь на диск... Так, а откуда и докуда я буду сбрасывать? И как я кнопку к эмулятору припаяю? :-( Вот, допустим, я *.z80 запишу. Там текст будет где-то более-менее линейно располагаться в памяти? KF>> Что за расшифровщик? AM> Да написал быстренько на пару часиков. Там просто служебные символы AM> имеются, типа "установка цвета" и всё такое. Вот это дело нужно было AM> удалять. tr -d "00-1416-37" ? И всё? Просто повыкидывать все коды? Сейчас буду пробовать, только где этот Format теперь ещё взят...

Hello Kirill! I am responding to your letter dated 06/06/2004, then written by Kirill Frolov to Nikolaj Amosov, and then it was 21:03:12. ( ) KF> Hardware debugger - you need to buy a special board KF> for $-a lot. There is a homemade and buggy solution for GNU, search KF> according to "GDB debugger AVR". AVR Studio includes a pretty good single-chip emulator, I it was enough for test debugging. And the final fine-tuning was done “by heart”, fortunately the controller is "programmable in the system." So I don’t see much point in a hardware debugger :) All the best, Alexander.

Привет Kirill! Отвечаю на ваше письмо от 06.06.2004, тогда писал(а) Kirill Frolov к Aleksandr Majorov, а было тогда на часах 21:19:24. ( ) AM>> Когда мне захотелось собрать систему термоконтроля, то я купил книжку по KF> Так это когда ТЕБЕ захотелос. Естественно, вначале была МЫСЛЬ! :) KF>>> Кроме того задача превращается в непосильную, ибо кое-какая квалификация KF>>> уже нужна, AM>> Мне хватило знания C и книжки по AVR'ам с асмовскими мнемониками. KF> То-есть как минимум нужн быть немного программистом... А что, это такая проблема? :) Хм, а если собирать более другую схему RS-232, то софт всё равно нужно писать! Для Спекка и, возможно, для ПЦ. Так какая разница? ( ) KF>>> например контроллера клавиатуры и/или мыши. А /только ради интерфейса/ KF>>> с писюком -- это, по-моему, перебор уже. AM>> А кто мешает потом что-нить ещё привинтить на него? KF> Отсутствие квалификации. Если сумел собрать "RS-232 контроллер", то какая-нить квалификация уже есть, сможешь и ещё что-то довесить. ( ) AM>> Хм, мне кажется что даже 10% - это весьма хорошая цифра. KF> Hет, это тот случай, когда при достижении 90% эффективности сложность KF> начинает расти по экспоненте. Поэтому к 100% стремиться не стоит. Hужно KF> где-то суметь остановиться. Имхо увеличение скорости на 10% - это то, к чему можно стремиться. ( ) AM>> Запускаешь Формат с заблокированным теневиком (кнопка есть у меня :), AM>> потом запускаешь статью, спокойно входишь в тень, сбрасываешь на диск... KF> Так, а откуда и докуда я буду сбрасывать? И как я кнопку к эмулятору KF> припаяю? :-( Вот, допустим, я *.z80 запишу. Там текст будет где-то KF> более-менее линейно располагаться в памяти? Хм, я думал ты реальщик, а ты оказывается засланец... :) Я про реальный Спекк говорю. Hа эмулях не ломал. А в .z80, я думаю, будет более-менее линейно. По крайней мере каждая страница будет линейна. А вот порядок страниц - от фонаря. ( ) AM>> Да написал быстренько на пару часиков. Там просто служебные символы AM>> имеются, типа "установка цвета" и всё такое. Вот это дело нужно было AM>> удалять. KF> tr -d "00-1416-37" ? И всё? Просто повыкидывать все коды? Hет не все. После кода-команды "установить цвет" идет байт цвета. А вот оный может быть больше чем символ пробела! Всего хорошего, Aleksandr.

Привет, Kirill! Воскресенье 06 Июня 2004 21:19:24 Kirill Frolov -> Aleksandr Majorov: KF> tr -d "00-1416-37" ? И всё? Просто повыкидывать KF> все коды? KF> Сейчас буду пробовать, только где этот Format теперь ещё KF> взят... Hасколько я помню все Форматы были на zx.da.ru, не помню как он сейчас называется... [REAL ZX]

Press RESET immediately, Aleksandr Majorov! On Mon, 07 Jun 04 18:04:24 +0400, Aleksandr Majorov wrote: KF>> Hardware debugger - you need to buy a special board KF>> for $-a lot. There is a homemade and buggy solution for GNU, search KF>> according to "GDB debugger AVR". AM> AVR Studio includes a pretty good single-chip emulator, I think AM> it was enough for test debugging. AM> And the final fine-tuning was done “by heart”, fortunately the controller is AM> "programmable in the system." AM> So I don’t see much point in a hardware debugger :) Well, how can I say it? When it is hung with something on the outside, it is sometimes necessary. The same Proteus at least allows a button/swearing tool/data file Attach to the entrance/exit. However, he actually has a “debugger” terrible...

Don't slaughter the cash cow that lays golden eggs, Nikolaj...! 07 Jun 04 21:42, Nikolaj Amosov -> Kirill Frolov: NA> As far as I remember, all the Formats were on zx.da.ru, I don’t remember how it is NA> is now called... Also... With the best - Wlodek # wlblack(@)newmail.ru # http://wlodeks.narod.ru [ZX] [500:95/462@ZXNet] [2:5016 Forever] [Golyanovo] [Old Russians]

Hello Ivan! Tuesday 27 April 2004 14:03:24 Ivan Kuvshinov -> Nikolaj Amosov: NA>> Is it even needed? In 10 years of Spectrumism I still haven’t NA>> used NA>> to the joystick... IK> Yes, y-what are you doing? And from dandy (plate) with cut off What does plate mean? IK> mikruhoy IK> - have you tried it? I tried it, but it’s not a joystick, it’s a gamepad... [REAL ZX]

NA> What does plate mean? Well, what does the plate look like, it’s black. She's not rectangular joysticks, but like SEG ones. IK>> - have you tried it? NA> I tried it, but it’s not a joystick, it’s a gamepad... Still - cool! I only played Elite with him. :) KIA