For free :)

Hello(s), All...! Included in the licensed distribution kit ABBYY LINGVO 9.0 - full-fledged Internet Explorer 6.0 for 2000/XP and SP4 for W2K. Funny. What they don’t write down in the free space. And the program itself is still a bastard, although not the same anymore. In any case, it already works for an ordinary user :). You can't put it on top of 6.0, you need to demolish 6.0 first; otherwise, 6.0 remains and 9.0 appears next to it, but if after that you demolish 6.0, both are happily demolished at once :). With the best - Wlodek # wlblack(@)newmail.ru # http://wlodeks.narod.ru [ZX] [500:95/462@ZXNet] [2:5016 Forever] [Golyanovo] [Old Russians]

Hello, Wladimir! 11 Oct 04 20:12, Wladimir Bulchukey -> All: WB> Included in the licensed distribution kit ABBYY LINGVO 9.0 - WB> full-fledged Internet Explorer 6.0 for 2000/XP and SP4 for W2K. WB> Cool. What they don’t write down in the free space. And apparently she needs SP4 and IE6. Best regards, Evgeniy.

And how is your niche, Wladimir! I am writing to you from a burning tank... Mon 11 Oct 2004 20:12:47, Wladimir Bulchukey -> All: WB> full-fledged Internet Explorer 6.0 for 2000/XP and SP4 for WB> Cool. What they don’t write down in the free space. IE 6.0 for win98se heh :) Best regards, Niko Sun ATM-turbo rulezzz!!! mail: niko-sun@rin.ru Si yo leter, Wladimir ...

Hello, Eugene...! 12 Oct 04 12:19, Eugene Palenock -> Wladimir Bulchukey: EP> And apparently she needs SP4 and IE6. SP4 is not needed, but IE, as stated in the instructions, to visit their page; they even included it as a home version in the distribution :) . With the best - Wlodek # wlblack(@)newmail.ru # http://wlodeks.narod.ru [ZX] [500:95/462@ZXNet] [2:5016 Forever] [Golyanovo] [Old Russians]

Hello Nik! 13 Oct 04, 14:09, Nik Aleksandrovich wrote to Wladimir Bulchukey on the topic "For free :)": WB>> full-fledged Internet Explorer 6.0 for 2000/XP and SP4 for WB>> Cool. What they don’t write down in the free space. NA> IE 6.0 for win98se heh :) Explain.... Happy connections. Roman.

And how is your nothing, Roman! I am writing to you from a burning tank... Tue 19 Oct 2004 00:38:18, Roman Alexandrov -> Nik Aleksandrovich: WB>>> full-fledged Internet Explorer 6.0 for 2000/XP and SP4 for WB>>> Cool. What they don’t write down in the free space. NA>> IE 6.0 for win98se heh :) RA> Explain.... why explain it here..... IE for Windows 2000 and XP....and I say. Why didn’t they write it down for Windows 98? Best regards, Niko Sun ATM-turbo rulezzz!!! mail: niko-sun@rin.ru Si yo leter, Roman ...

Hello _Kirill_! *Anton* writes to you! 21 Nov 04 00:22, _Kirill Frolov_ ══. /Nik Aleksandrovich/: NA>> why is opera smoking???? KF> Opera, in its free version, 50% of the screen is occupied by advertising. skooka? text strip of 20 pixels. which disappears when expanded opera in full screen. and navigating full-screen Opera is just as convenient as ordinary, not expanded. Just more space. KF> Otherwise, no better than Mozilla. yes everyone is better. starting with the size of the distribution. KF> It also has shutdown functions KF> there is no advertising (not her own, but another one). Well, it cuts pop-ups, but copes with banners and firewalls :) But loading images is easy to manage. search is convenient and customizable. skins beautiful. It can do RSS (this is important for me). supports custom CSS - By the way, you can cut anything you want using CSS, not just advertising. and if not If you know how to write code, everything that has already been written is lying around on the Internet. and the mouse is convenient to control :) in so many rules. Well, what else can I say?.. Bye, _*Kirill*_!

A day has passed, and you are still alive! Kirill! On 21 Nov 04, Kirill Frolov wrote to Nik Aleksandrovich: KF>>> www.google.com --> Mozilla Firefox. NA>> why is opera smoking???? KF> Opera, in its free version, 50% of the screen is occupied by advertising. KF> Otherwise, it’s no better than Mozilla. It also has shutdown functions KF> there is no advertising (not her own, but another one). In version 7.23, the banner was removed when the button panel was removed. In older I didn’t try it, because I upgraded the opera, but it was already banned. And advertising should be cut by specialists. programs such as Proxomitron. I'm already using it I don’t remember how many years it’s been, I haven’t seen advertisements/banners/counters/buttons for a long time. ZXNet: 500:8462/1 ~/ <~ http://zxnet.da.ru/ Fido: 2:5057/56 /_ _> SkyNet: 71:170/21

Hello, Kirill! 11 Jan 05, 01:41, Kirill Frolov wrote to Anton Kolotvin on the topic "Re: On freebie :)": AK>> if you expand the opera to full screen. KF> I do not have a window system to deploy all programs on KF> whole screen. Typically, the browser is 90% tall and 60% wide. KF> width. Hmm... all people are different... I don't have the whole screen, only headlights with gold.... Happy connections. Roman.

A day has passed, and you are still alive! Kirill! On 13 Jan 05, Kirill Frolov wrote to Sergey Zotov: SZ>> And advertising should be cut by specialists. programs such as Proxomitron. I SZ>> I haven’t been using it for how many years, SZ>> I haven’t seen advertisements/banners/counters/buttons for a long time. KF> You don't even understand how it works. I can imagine it very well. And I myself have already written and corrected more than a dozen filters. KF> Look at ad block plugin for mozilla or firefox - external KF> the program cannot allow you to point the mouse at a picture or frame and KF> say “I don’t want to see this anymore.” We shouldn’t consider everyone around us lamer. Proxomitron - the most powerful filter HTTP/HTTPS traffic that has ever existed. Mozilla and its derivatives even they don't lie close. Everyone who wanted to have tried it a long time ago and understood. But this is not for you understand. By the way, Firefox is still slow compared to Opera (latest versions I haven't tried Mozilla). Proxomitron can be used with ANY software that works with HTTP/HTTPS traffic and do not limit yourself in the browser due to some unknown plugin. KF> This also applies, by the way, to advertising on Google, it is now there KF> news, takes up half a page in width.I don't have it. Everything I don’t need has been cut out a long time ago. ZXNet: 500:8462/1 ~/ <~ http://zxnet.da.ru/ Fido: 2:5057/56 /_ _> SkyNet: 71:170/21

A day has passed, and you are still alive! Kirill! On 15 Jan 05, Kirill Frolov wrote to Sergey Zotov: KF>>> You don’t even understand how it works. SZ>> I can imagine it very well. And I myself have already written and corrected more than one SZ>> ten filters. KF> Which filters? url? Both the URL and the transmitted content. KF> Once again: you don’t even understand how it works, imho. You are wrong again. KF>>> Look at ad block plugin for mozilla or firefox - external KF>>> the program cannot allow you to point the mouse at a picture or frame and KF>>> say “I don’t want to see this anymore.” SZ>> Don't consider everyone around you lamer. Proxomitron - the most powerful SZ>> filter for HTTP/HTTPS traffic that has ever existed. Mozilla and SZ>> its derivatives even KF> Well, there’s no need to talk nonsense. This is not about a transport traffic filter KF> level. What is HTTP traffic? In this case, everything that passes through the HTTP proxy. In general - everything that passes via HTTP protocol. KF> Any file can be transferred there KF> for example mp3. Data stream, uninterpreted. It only depends on your brains. KF> We are talking about modifying the document presentation at the application level KF> when there is already a document corresponding to the DOM What is DOM? Isn't it the object model that Mozilla portrays? So here it is. The document must comply with w3c, and not what was invented browser writers. KF> and over which it becomes possible to carry out various types of operations KF> transformations. At the traffic level this is impossible at least KF> because the document can be expanded dynamically. My experience says it is possible. KF> Proximitron has a built-in javascript interpreter, xslt processor, KF> html parser? Already familiarize yourself with what Proxomitron is. His filters are just that. Whatever you want, you can build into it. Everything is limited by your imagination. KF> Adblock is also in this sense, everything is pathetic (at the address). I would like KF> minimal scripting, like what I use to rip out html KF> element of the largest size - so that only text, no advertising KF> left/right, monstrous “design”, etc. Although, the same Mozilla KF> allows any individual element to be dragged into composer via the clipboard KF> - the same thing, but manually. This is important! It just allows KF> read the pages designed to death. I don't quite understand what exactly you want... KF> I don’t believe in advertising in any way, and I know one thing for sure - freebies KF> there is no such thing as a freebie (this should also be applied to Mozilla, see below). Then try and protest. By the way, the banner in Opera is easy to cut out Proxomitron. So there is no extra traffic. Size? There is a second mode for unregistered - send all URLs you visit to Google. One filter for Proxomitron and Google will not know about you, and you get a browser without banner (does not take up space) and without unnecessary extraneous traffic. Not a freebie - because you will have to work hard to create a filter for Proxomitron. ZXNet: 500:8462/1 ~/ <~ http://zxnet.da.ru/ Fido: 2:5057/56 /_ _> SkyNet: 71:170/21

A day has passed, and you are still alive! Kirill! On 16 Jan 05, Kirill Frolov wrote to Sergey Zotov: KF>>> Which filters? url? SZ>> Both the url and the transmitted content. KF> Then explain how you can filter banners that pop up from KF> javascript scripts? By cutting out the entire corresponding script, for example. KF> How can you not filter something that doesn’t need to be filtered? Disable/fix/do not write the corresponding filter. KF> For example, I want to see a banner. Yes, please download it separately and watch as much as you like. KF>>> Once again: you don’t even understand how it works, imho. SZ>> You are wrong again. KF> At least you understand poorly. The problem is not that I don’t understand something, but that you have no idea about what are you talking about? How can you even talk about what Proxomitron is, if you haven't seen him? And even more so about the fact that I don’t understand something, if you I haven’t even seen or tried this? SZ>> In this case, everything that passes through the HTTP proxy. In general - everything SZ>> which passes through the HTTP protocol. KF> Absolutely everything goes through the HTTP protocol.Well, tell me more stories about this. KF> You can do the same KF> filter at the IP protocol level, or at the Manchester level KF> when in Ethernet. Don't confuse horseradish with your finger. These are completely different levels. HTTP protocol higher level. KF>>> for example mp3. Data stream, uninterpreted. SZ>> It depends only on your brain. KF> Yes, yes... This already looks like a complex... KF>>> and over which it becomes possible to carry out various types of operations KF>>> transformations. At the traffic level this is impossible at least KF>>> because the document can be expanded dynamically. SZ>> My practice says that it is possible. KF> How specifically? Try writing a web proxy in perl using LWP::UserAgent and redirection server stream. This will give you the necessary knowledge. I don't do educational programs. KF>>> Proximitron has a built-in javascript interpreter, xslt processor, KF>>> html parser? SZ>> Already familiarize yourself with what Proxomitron is. Its filters are just SZ>> are all of these. Whatever you want, you can build into it. All SZ>> limited by your imagination. KF> Well, yes. If Proxomitron can't do something, it's because of my lack KF> fantasy - you just need to imagine that proxiomitron can do everything. And there is no need to be so skeptical about this. This is true. If Windows is not buggy, then the handles are crooked. KF> But still? How does he do it? If it's unclear inside KF> a lot of sources, or even a “trade secret” - what do I care KF> should I watch him? There is no secret. Proxomitron is a local proxy server based on filters described by the user in the text config changes the content files transferred through it. The program is free. The filter language is described. There is no need to edit any source codes. In general, it’s difficult to describe what you’re even like you don't want to look. SZ>> I don’t quite understand what exactly you want... KF> Present the text. Now imagine that they put it in a table, KF> were hung with various attributes, so that it became impossible to read -- KF> 6 point font, 200 characters per line, or vice versa in a narrow column, KF> bright green letters on a "magenta" background..., placed on the left and right KF> a million banners, and they also installed a creepy animated background. This KF> is called "design". Neither read nor print. Now, if you extract KF> only one table cell and place it in a separate document - this KF> will be text. Easy to read and print without problems. In general KF> in this case it is enough to extract the branch with the relation text/rest not KF> worse than 5/1. I would like the browser to do this automatically... Opera can switch Page style at the touch of a button. You can see page without using css and style properties for example. I use this when I see such a poor design as you described. Is this it? KF> Well, there you go. I definitely won’t get involved with this. If you want it, don't eat it. This will not make the product any worse, but its significance for the user will not fall. SZ>> Not a freebie - because you have to work hard to create a filter SZ>> for Proxomitron. KF> What exactly is a filter for proxomitron? In essence, it is a filtering proxy server. KF> A set of regular expressions prohibited by URLs, script, KF> that calculates the validity of certain URLs, or a script KF> completely parsing the analyzed document? All of this. KF> Something else? Another universal tool for web programmers and administrators web server. I think it is useless to continue the discussion until you look at Proxomitron. You can take it, for example, here: http://zxnet.pp.ru/Proxomitron/Proxomitron_cyr.exe ZXNet: 500:8462/1 ~/ <~ http://zxnet.da.ru/ Fido: 2:5057/56 /_ _> SkyNet: 71:170/21

A day has passed, and you are still alive! Kirill! On 17 Jan 05, Kirill Frolov wrote to Sergey Zotov: SZ>> There is no secret. Proxomitron - local proxy server SZ>> which is based on filters described by the user in the text SZ>> config changes the content of files transferred through it. Program SZ>> free. KF> How does this agree with the previous letter, which promised something there KF> send to google until you pay? This is done by unregistered Opera, not Proxomitron. ZXNet: 500:8462/1 ~/ <~ http://zxnet.da.ru/ Fido: 2:5057/56 /_ _> SkyNet: 71:170/21

Hello _Kirill_! *Anton* writes to you! 11 Jan 05 01:41, _Kirill Frolov_ ══. /Anton Kolotvin/: KF>>> Opera, in its free version, 50% of the screen is occupied by advertising. AK>> skooka? text strip of 20 pixels. which disappears KF> Maybe you have 20, but I have everything ~200x400. And the screen is 600x800. Yes, all 20 who choose not graphic, but text advertising from Google. They ask there during installation. Hint: kigen hasn't been canceled yet. Even in the eighth version of Opera. AK>> if you expand the opera to full screen. KF> I do not have a window system to deploy all programs KF> full screen. Typically, the browser is extended at 90% height and 60% KF> in width. Ok, whatever you want, I’m not forcing you, I’m just suggesting a method :-] KF>>> Otherwise, no better than Mozilla. AK>> everyone is better off. starting with the size of the distribution. KF> So something was not reported to the opera. This is a drawback. Yes, water has everything. Although I agree, Mozilla is also not bad (I did download Firefox) KF>>> It also has shutdown functions KF>>> there is no advertising (not her own, but another one). AK>> well, it cuts pop-ups, but copes with banners and a firewall :) KF> A typical example of driving screws with a hammer. What kind of firewall do you need KF> will help if you 1) receive content from a proxy, 2) the banner is sent KF> from the same address, same server? From this point of view, which browser will help you? Or artificial intelligence has been attached to Mozilla and it knows where the advertising is, and where is the important content? What is the fundamental difference between a browser and a firewall in terms of recognition (and hence filtering) of advertising? I’ll give you a hint: IP is not the only parameter that distinguishes a banner from just a picture. And since all traffic first goes through the firewall, it is quite logical to trust preliminary filtration for him. AK>> Can do RSS (this is important for me). KF> Unless. Would you like to understand what its meaning is? Collects headlines from websites. Saves time and traffic. I tuned the opera once every check RSS for half an hour, she does it with about 10 sites (including LiveJournal) So that one glance is enough for me to understand whether the page has been updated. What about you? :-] AK>> supports custom CSS - by the way KF> Yes, another kick to Mozilla - it doesn’t work... :-( AK>> you can cut anything you want using CSS, not just advertising. and if AK>> you don’t know how to write code - everything that has already been written is lying around on the Internet. KF> Not possible. It will load it anyway. They say no - it won't load. I read it on myopera.net in the forum. and a traffic meter You can install one and check it if you wish. although, if the object insert is cut out, there is no object - what will it load? using css we replace with [img] and what will be loaded using this code? In general, this is a holy war :-] We need to tie it up. Well, what else can I say?.. Bye, _*Kirill*_!