From
Wladimir Bulchukey
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To
All
23 June 2005
Hello(s), All...!
Hardware issue.
The subject item in the screen properties is grayed out. Video card S3 Trio 3D/2X.
On other machines with more powerful video cards I configured
(due to the transition to TFT monitors - on their 17 inches it is small by default,
and, as you know, changing the screen resolution is not recommended; have to
change the subject).
What is this, now we’re trying to fool our bosses about a new video card?
Thank you.
With the best - Wlodek # wlblack(@)newmail.ru # http://wlodeks.narod.ru
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From
Valerij Kozhevnikoff
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To
Wladimir Bulchukey
24 June 2005
Hello, Wladimir!
Thu, 23 Jun 05 at 00:32, Wladimir Bulchukey -> All:
WB> Hardware issue.
WB> The subject item in the screen properties is grayed out. Video card S3 Trio 3D/2X.
I used this one. Exactly on a 17" monitor.
WB> On other machines with more powerful video devices I configured (due to
The video power doesn’t matter here. You shouldn't play games.
WB> transition to TFT monitors - on their 17 inches it is small by default, and
WB> Changing the screen resolution, as you know, is not recommended; have to
WB> change subject). Is this what it’s like to scam the bosses about a new video card?
What axis? What kind of firewood does it cost? I had fonts from the manufacturer
switched as you please. If you look, maybe I’ll find it on blanks.
WBR, Jason.
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From
Eugene Palenock
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To
Valerij Kozhevnikoff
24 June 2005
Hello Valerij!
24 Jun 05 01:58, Valerij Kozhevnikoff -> Wladimir Bulchukey:
WB>> transition to TFT monitors - on their 17 inches it is small by default, but
WB>> changing the screen resolution, as you know, is not recommended; have to
WB>> change subject). Is this what it’s like, now we’re trying to deceive the bosses for a new one
WB>> video card?
VK> What axis? What kind of firewood does it cost? I had the ones from the manufacturer
VK> fonts were switched as desired. If you search, maybe I’ll find it on
VK> blanks.
By the way, I don’t know how to upgrade the LCD monitor later because of this...
The resolution needs to be set high...
And if you enlarge the fonts, they don’t just get bigger:
1.line spacing is lost.
2.almost all the tray icons are spoiled; they are not just blots, but definitely
drawn and dynamically displaying something.
3.Images are scaled in the browser. Not scary for photos, but for sure
The rendered graphics are terrible.
As a result, I live at 1024*768 by 17"... Because it turned out to increase the fonts
unacceptable.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From
Wladimir Bulchukey
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To
Eugene Palenock
24 June 2005
Hello, Eugene...!
24 Jun 05 03:08, Eugene Palenock -> Valerij Kozhevnikoff:
EP> By the way, I don’t know how to upgrade the LCD monitor later because of this...
EP> The resolution should be set high... And if you enlarge the fonts, then
I have a situation determined by circumstances, but not by my own choice -
SES requires changing monitors to LCDs according to hygiene standards for schools.
Now we have allocated funds and bought the first 5 monitors. Axle everywhere W2K Prof.
The firewood for the S3 Trio is original from the manufacturer, under W2K. Now we're trying to decide
which is better: increase the font size with the inevitable sacrifice of side effects,
or leave the standard 96 dpi at 1280x1024 pixels on 17 inches and
sticking your nose into the screen, which is also not good...
S3 Trio will probably have to be replaced with a modern card.
With the best - Wlodek # wlblack(@)newmail.ru # http://wlodeks.narod.ru
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From
Nikolaj Amosov
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To
Wladimir Bulchukey
24 June 2005
Hello, Wladimir!
Thursday 23 June 2005 00:32:27 Wladimir Bulchukey -> All:
WB> (due to the transition to TFT monitors - on their 17 inches
WB> default small,
WB> and changing the screen resolution, as you know, is not recommended;
A lot depends on the monitor. Try changing the resolution -
you might like it.
On my TFT 17" I never set it higher than 800x600.
The image quality does not suffer.
[REAL ZX]
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Nikolaj Amosov
25 June 2005
Hello Nikolaj!
24 Jun 05, 22:16, Nikolaj Amosov wrote to Wladimir Bulchukey on the topic
"Font size":
NA> A lot depends on the monitor. Try changing the resolution -
NA> you might like it.
NA> On my TFT 17" I never set it above 800x600.
NA> The image quality does not suffer.
Mmmmm.... TFT can only be used in passport mode, all others
the interpolated options look absolutely sickening.
Happy connections. Roman.
From
Eugene Palenock
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To
Wladimir Bulchukey
25 June 2005
Hello, Wladimir!
24 Jun 05 07:36, Wladimir Bulchukey -> Eugene Palenock:
WB> I have a situation determined by circumstances, but not my own
WB> choice - SES requires changing monitors to LCD according to hygienic standards
WB> for schools. Now we have allocated funds and bought the first 5 monitors. Axis everywhere
WB> W2K Prof. The firewood for the S3 Trio is original from the manufacturer, under W2K. Now
WB> trying to decide what is better: increasing the font size with the inevitable sacrifice
WB> for side effects, or leave the standard 96 dpi at 1280x1024
WB> points at 17 inches and sticking your nose into the screen, which is also not
WB> good... S3 Trio, apparently, will have to be replaced with a modern card.
By the way, the font changes in two places.
1. you apparently know;
2. screen properties - design - font size.
The effects are completely different. The second one seems to have fewer glitches.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From
Eugene Palenock
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To
Kirill Frolov
25 June 2005
Hello Kirill!
25 Jun 05 00:11, Kirill Frolov -> All:
KF> museum... Who would recommend a card for: tv-in, tv-out, support for everything
KF> this in linux and w2k3... Apparently, only ATI or Nvidia, because there are all kinds
KF> avermedia is not friendly with Linux. Maybe older and more expensive models
KF> much better?
If you are talking about “better” in terms of video input and video output, then look at what kind of chips are there
there are entrances and exits. In general, they did not change often; there are 4 of them for inputs.
The development was in terms of teletext support (if the signal from the video from the tuner
catch), and increase the speed and quality of capture. And the viewing mode is everywhere (with
inputs built into the video card) are approximately the same.
KF> And here’s another pressing question: do I need a TV-in for
KF> Spectrum viewing in the window. What kind of software is there for this?
KF> use? I mean Windows.
That's usually what's included with the card ;)
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From
Eugene Palenock
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To
Nikolaj Amosov
25 June 2005
Hello Nikolaj!
24 Jun 05 22:16, Nikolaj Amosov -> Wladimir Bulchukey:
NA> On my TFT 17" I never set it above 800x600.
NA> The image quality does not suffer.
Gee. So you set the resolution to multiple, apparently you have it
holds up to 1600*1200 ;) But set it to 1024*768 - and everything will go bad right away...
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From
Wladimir Bulchukey
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To
Nikolaj Amosov
25 June 2005
Hello, Nikolaj...!
24 Jun 05 22:16, Nikolaj Amosov -> Wladimir Bulchukey:
NA> A lot depends on the monitor. Try changing the resolution -
NA> you might like it.
NA> On my TFT 17" I never set it above 800x600.
NA> The image quality does not suffer.
It doesn't roll. Yes, and it can’t roll - the points are set in advance, and it’s fine
Only nominal resolution can be displayed. It sucks even displaying
text mode MS DOS, and these are some symbols.
With the best - Wlodek # wlblack(@)newmail.ru # http://wlodeks.narod.ru
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From
Aleksey Senilov
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To
All
26 June 2005
Hello, _/All/_!
I don’t know why you’re arguing here, but I currently have a TFT 17” monitor.
at a resolution of 1280*1024, and everything is clearly visible, no need to move your nose. Vision
I am -5, and yet... Others who have visited me agree with this.
Maybe it depends on specific monitors?
PS: I have a Samsung SyncMaster 710N.
See you again! Best regards, Thann.
From
Eugene Palenock
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To
Kirill Frolov
27 June 2005
Hello Kirill!
26 Jun 05 21:08, Kirill Frolov -> Eugene Palenock:
EP>> If you are talking about “better” in terms of video input and video output, then look
EP>> what input and output chips are there. In general, they did not change often
EP>> there are 4 of them for inputs. Development was progressing in terms of teletext support
EP>> (if from video from signal tuner
KF> What, is there something to read teletext with? Just not with your eyes.
KF> I once saw that avermedia is given - there you can only read with your eyes
KF> it is possible (but, for example, it cannot be written to a file - why such teletext?)
For cards based on Philips SAA7113 and higher - there is a utility from the VideoLive package, it
dumps it into a text file.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From
Nikolaj Amosov
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To
Roman Alexandrov
29 June 2005
Hello Roman!
Saturday 25 June 2005 09:46:45 Roman Alexandrov -> Nikolaj Amosov:
NA>> On my TFT 17" I never set it above 800x600.
NA>> The image quality does not suffer.
RA> Mmmmm.... TFT can only be used on a passport
RA> mode, all others are interpolated
RA> the options look absolutely sickening.
I believe my eyes and continue to say that 800x600 is instead
passport 1280x1024 look very decent. Artifact Eye
does not notice due to interpolation...
[REAL ZX]
From
Nikolaj Amosov
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To
Wladimir Bulchukey
29 June 2005
Hello, Wladimir!
Saturday 25 June 2005 16:53:49 Wladimir Bulchukey -> Nikolaj Amosov:
NA>> On my TFT 17" I never set it above 800x600.
NA>> The image quality does not suffer.
WB> Only nominal resolution can be displayed. Sucks
WB> is displayed even
WB> text mode MS DOS, and wow, what characters.
It's different on different monitors. Text mode in mine
I am completely satisfied with the monitor.
[REAL ZX]
From
Nikolaj Amosov
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To
Eugene Palenock
29 June 2005
Hello Eugene!
Saturday 25 June 2005 16:19:24 Eugene Palenock -> Nikolaj Amosov:
NA>> On my TFT 17" I never set it above 800x600.
NA>> The image quality does not suffer.
EP> Gee. So you set the resolution to multiple, apparently you have it
EP> holds up to 1600*1200 ;)
No, only 1280x1024
EP> And set it to 1024*768 - that's all
EP> will spoil immediately...
But this mode is really visually crooked than 800x600...
[REAL ZX]
From
Nikolaj Amosov
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To
Aleksey Senilov
29 June 2005
Hello, Alexey!
Sunday June 26, 2005 21:28:40 Aleksey Senilov -> All:
AS> I don’t know why you’re arguing here, but my monitor is now like
AS> times TFT 17", I live
AS> at a resolution of 1280*1024, and everything is perfectly visible with your nose
AS> is not necessary.
AS> PS: I have a Samsung SyncMaster 710N.
I have the same one too.
[REAL ZX]
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Nikolaj Amosov
30 June 2005
Hello Nikolaj!
29 Jun 05, 21:46, Nikolaj Amosov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "Size
font":
NA>>> On my TFT 17" I never set it above 800x600.
NA>>> The image quality does not suffer.
RA>> Mmmm.... TFT can only be used on a passport
RA>> mode, all others are interpolated
RA>> the options look absolutely nauseating.
NA> I believe my eyes and continue to say that 800x600 is instead
NA> passport 1280x1024 look very decent. Artifact Eye
NA> does not notice from interpolation...
Well, that means your eyesight is weak and you’re lucky, I personally haven’t seen a single one
"liquid" monitor where the interpolated resolution would look normal.
I’m talking about how the photos look on cheap (less than $1000-$1500) TFT monitors
In general, I’m silent - it’s complete garbage. Because I'm a photographer, this crap isn't good for me.
in general, only CRT.
By the way, 800x600 is generally very small for work, on both of mine
17" costs 1152x864 and I really want to buy a 19" one for my home
cathode ray monitor until they completely disappear from sale, so that
increase the resolution further.
Happy connections. Roman.
From
Nikolaj Amosov
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To
Roman Alexandrov
4 July 2005
Hello Roman!
Thursday 30 June 2005 09:34:52 Roman Alexandrov -> Nikolaj Amosov:
NA>> I believe my eyes and continue to say that 800x600
NA>> instead
NA>> passport 1280x1024 look very decent. Eye
NA>> artifacts
NA>> does not notice from interpolation...
RA> Well, that means your eyesight is weak and you’re lucky, I personally don’t
Up close I can see well.
RA> About how
RA> look like on cheap (less than $1000-1500) TFT monitors
RA> photos I’m generally silent
RA> - complete garbage. Because I'm a photographer, I don't like this crap
RA> is generally suitable, only CRT.
Since I am not a photographer, I only look at photos on photo paper.
Maybe you should do the same?
RA> By the way, 800x600 is generally very small for work, y
What is meant by work? At home I use my computer for
console-emulator purposes, reading fidomail, listening to music.
At work, 800x600 by 17" is also enough for any purpose: PCAD,
word, Keil, AutoCAD. But staring at small dots in large ones
The last thing I want is permissions...
RA> me on both my 17" cars RA> costs 1152x864 and I really want to buy 19 for my home
RA> inch electron beam
RA> monitor before they completely disappear from sale, so that
RA> increase the resolution further.
So it’s probably better to take 21" so that you have some extra?
[REAL ZX]
From
Roman Alexandrov
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To
Nikolaj Amosov
6 July 2005
Hello Nikolaj!
04 Jul 05, 21:54, Nikolaj Amosov wrote to Roman Alexandrov on the topic "Size
font":
NA>>> I believe my eyes and continue to say that 800x600
NA>>> instead
NA>>> passport 1280x1024 look very decent. Eye
NA>>> artifacts
NA>>> does not notice from interpolation...
RA>> Well, that means your eyesight is weak and you’re lucky, I personally don’t
NA> I can see well up close.
So this is a feature of your vision.
RA>> About how
RA>> look like on cheap (less than $1000-1500) TFT monitors
RA>> photos I’m generally silent
RA>> - complete garbage. Because I'm a photographer, I don't like this crap
RA>> generally suitable, only CRT.
NA> Since I am not a photographer, I only look at photos on photo paper.
NA> Maybe you should do the same?
Before they get there (on paper) they must be selected and
processed, so this is exactly what is impossible to do on TFT due to its extreme
sucks.
And somehow I don’t want to print everything (at the moment on a screw
there are about 3500 photos). RA>> By the way, 800x600 is generally very small for work, y
NA> What is meant by work?
Mainly working with photographs.
NA> At home I use my computer for
NA> console-emulator purposes, reading email, listening to music.
NA> At work, 800x600 by 17" is also enough for any purpose: PCAD,
NA> word, Keil, AutoCAD.
Of all the above, 600x800 is only suitable for fidomail and music, for
the rest is not enough and uncomfortable.
NA> But staring at small dots in large ones
NA> permissions are the last thing I want...
And he said you see well.
RA>> me on both my 17" cars
RA>> costs 1152x864 and I really want to buy 19 for my home
RA>> inch electron beam
RA>> monitor before they completely disappear from sale, so
RA>> increase the resolution further.
NA> So it’s probably better to take 21" so that you have some extra?
1) My last name is not Rockefeller.
2) It simply won’t fit on my desk.
Happy connections. Roman.