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From Eugene Palenock → To All 31 March 2003
Hello All!
So how to use a subject in Windows?
It is necessary to connect from Windows 98 to 2000...
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From Kirill Frolov → To Max Harchenko 5 April 2003
Press RESET immediately, Max!
04 Apr 03 17:26, Max Harchenko wrote to Kirill Palmin:
EP>>> So how to use a subject in Windows?
EP>>> It is necessary to connect from Windows 98 to 2000...
KP>> In 2000, you create a direct cable connection in a remote connection
KP>> seems to be a slave, but 98, as usual, is in communication->direct connection
KP>> put the leader. This is how it worked for me.
MH> Yes, I wish someone could give me the wiring for the null modem cable.
2All: CUT, SAVE AND NEVER ASK AGAIN (and in general get to
the nearest store and buy a ready-made cable - it will be cheaper):
In IBM-compatible PCs, 4 types of connectors are widely used:
DB25P cable for connecting printer
or a serial interface connector in the PC case (outdated
option)
DB25S connector for connecting a printer in a PC case
or serial cable (obsolete version)
DB9P serial interface connector in the PC case
DB9S serial cable
Connector designations:
DB25P or DB25M plug (male), 25 pins
DB25S or DB25F socket (female), 25 pins
DB9P or DB9M plug (male), 9 pins
DB9S or DB9F socket (socket, “mother”), 9 pins("mother" and "father" are considered obscene in some places, so
also use "plug" and "socket")
Historically, all devices using serial
interface are divided into two classes: terminal devices (DTE, data terminal
equipment) and data communication equipment (DCE, data communication equipment).
This division is very arbitrary, unnecessary and only introduces unnecessary confusion, since
Fundamentally, DTE devices are no different from DCE devices. Device
DTE can be considered a terminal (iron, with a green monitor, 10 kg
keyboard...), printer or computer connected to a modem. As DCE
The device can be a modem or a computer connected to a printer. Options
can be very diverse. But the most important thing here is that they always connect
two devices of different types, i.e. DTE and DCE. You can't directly
connect two DTE devices, just as you cannot connect two DCEs together
devices. The fact is that DTE devices have plugs (DB25P or
DB9P), and sockets (DB25S or DB9S) are installed on the DCE equipment. Possibly
direct connection of DTE and DCE devices, or a “straight” cable can be used,
in which the pinout at both ends is the same, and the connectors are installed
different - a plug at one end, a socket at the other. It's all about the connectors...It is precisely because of different connectors that devices of the same type cannot be connected.
Even if you use a cable with the same type of connector at the ends (two plugs,
or two sockets) it is still impossible to connect two devices of the same type --
it turns out that the output signals are connected to the outputs, and the inputs to the inputs, if
A “straight” cable with matching pinouts at both ends is used.
It’s unclear what they thought who developed this interface, certainly not with their heads...
You have to use an “inverted” cable, in which the signals are wired to
one of the ends is completely opposite - the first contact instead of the last and
etc. You can also use a special adapter. And it's all because of stupid
dividing all devices into two types, but it was possible to make the same type
connectors and use “inverted” cables, as in telephony.
Pinout of DB25P and DB9P plug connectors for DTE devices
(fully corresponds to the connector on an IBM-compatible PC)
signal DB9P DB25P direction purpose
TD 3 2 output transmitted data
RD 2 3 input received data
RTS 7 4 output ready for receiving terminal
CTS 8 5 input request transmission from modem
DTR 4 20 output terminal readiness
DSR 6 6 input modem readyDCD 1 8 input carrier detected
RI 9 22 input bell indicator
GND 5 7 signal common wire
PG no 1 protective wire (housing)
***note:
For real iron terminals, RTS, CTS and DTR, DSR are swapped.
Why is unknown. In general, there are options...
Pinout of DB25S and DB9S sockets, for DCE devices
completely coincides with the pinout of DTE devices, in addition
except that the direction of transmission (input-output) changes to
the opposite.
(the wiring shown corresponds to the connector of any modem)
signal DB9P DB25P direction purpose
TD 3 2 input transmitted data
RD 2 3 output received data
RTS 7 4 input ready for terminal reception
CTS 8 5 output request transmission from modem
DTR 4 20 input terminal readiness
DSR 6 6 output modem ready
DCD 1 8 output carrier detected
RI 9 22 output bell indicator
GND 5 7 signal common wire
PG no 1 protective wire (housing)
Thus, based on what was written above: if you need to connect twodevices of different types (one has a plug type connector, the other has a socket) then
you can connect these devices directly if the housing design allows,
or use a direct, so-called “modem” cable. If necessary
connect two devices of the same type (both have the same type of connectors, or two
plugs, or two sockets), then you can use a special adapter,
adapter and a “modem” cable or a special “null-modem” cable (with
cross-connected contacts at different ends).
Wiring of a complete null modem cable or adapter for connecting two DTEs
devices:
DB9S DB25S DB9S DB25S
3 2 <--------------> 2 3
2 3 <--------------> 3 2
7 4 <--------------> 8 5
8 5 <--------------> 7 4
4 20 <--------+---> 6 6
|
1 8 <---+ +---> 1 8
|
6 6 <---+----------> 4 40
9 22 <- -> 9 22
5 7 <------------> 5 7
building 1 <-------------> building 1
Wiring of a simplified null modem cable or adapter for connecting two
DTE devices (only TD-RD signals are connected):
DB9S DB25S DB9S DB25S
3 2 <--------------> 2 3
2 3 <--------------> 3 2
7 4 <---+ +---> 8 5
| |8 5 <---+ +---> 7 4
4 20 <--+ +---> 6 6
| |
1 8 <---+ +---> 1 8
| |
6 6 <---+ +---> 4 40
9 22 <- -> 9 22
5 7 <------------> 5 7
building 1 <-------------> building 1
Connect all this WITH THE POWER OFF, WHEN THE POWER PLUGS ARE REMOVED FROM
OUTLETS! Otherwise the ports will burn out. When the power is on, you can connect safely
only if both computers are connected to one pilot extension cable or their
the housings are electrically connected in a different way.