Spbzxnet says goodbye to the rest of the world?

* Replay from the ZX.SPECTRUM aria Hello, Arseniy! It’s quiet outside the window, and I’m sitting and writing a response to a letter from Arseniy Astapenko to All 09/04/1999 at 13:25:02... IG>> in Moscow, everything that in one way or another related to gating is carried away to me IG>> down forever. If you don't like what I've done, do it better. In the meantime IG>> sit the way you want. For even a feather can break a camel's back. AA> It was not about secession, but about joining the rest AA> to the world. It’s a pity that the transition of the St. Petersburg network to pkt turned out to be even more difficult AA> than in Moscow :(( AA> 2IG: It was necessary to tell the general general about the problem. ;( I don't read this echo. Therefore, my letter here and now may turn out to be somewhat off topic (because entering a dark room and starting to push a speech without even understanding what is happening is, to put it mildly, not very good). First, I have to calm you all down. After a half-hour conversation with NC spbzkhneta he managed to persuade me to return to my original state. That is the gate operates as before. There are no breaks in mail/netsoap in both directions admitted. Unless there was a delay of two/three days. And now about the origins of the problem, as I see it. (for those with difficulty reading, pleaseread the first paragraph of this letter of mine). Let me digress a little, for those unfamiliar with gating techniques. Those who know - you may not read. Gateing is the activity of a node that has two addresses in different networks (read with different addressing), allowing echomail and netmail with one network to another. In this case, you need to hide/kill/replace the address of one network when moving to another and additionally ensure two-way exchange netmail messages. Ideal when the user of one network does not care a method of gating, as long as the mail does not disappear. (exaggerated). It all started then (correct me if I’m wrong) when the people in Fido wanted read St. Petersburg's echoes. For this purpose, Roma Alexandrov wrote gateilki. They worked for some time and, IMHO, due to not special demanding, no problems arose. The network at the very least expanded, appetites grew, there was a need for at least the appearance of normal gating and mergers according to the general plan. By that time, Roma had left the post of gate spbzkhnet-fido due to a propeller accident, I took on this role with my own handwritten programs. The first idea for gating was to logically gate according to ftsc standards. Which is what was done. The result was that the Spbzkhnetchik people were offended by [me] because when passing an echomail in a similar form along the routing paths of Fidonet addresses fromKludges migrated to the from field and the St. Petersburg people were called 'hello, 500:812/xx.yy'. How letters came to the gate from Fido/Internet to It’s better not to remember the answer to letters from eh, or just non-soap ones. For The responders do not have ideally (even just normally) configured echo readers it was. Or rather, they were, but in very small quantities. Track which letter to whom and it was very difficult to do with him. Refusal of this form of gating occurred after several comments from several moderators of several (sorry for a tautology) eh on the 'alias' in the echo (aka Zkhnetov's address that got out there). After several unsuccessful attempts and trials, such methods were discarded gating like: - setting the destination address in St. Petersburg in the subject (aka Moscow version (it seems)), because the subject must contain a subject (_subject_ of the letter). - setting the destination address in the from/to field, not a bad idea. The downside is that the field has a 35 character limit and long names users (Nickolay Krivoscheevitch (500:812/99.99)) could simply be rejected. Plus, the same problem arose as in the two upcoming cases - soap came to the gate address in so many different forms to: xxx yyy 500 812/99 99 to: xxx yyy 812/99.99 to: 500:812/99.99 to: xxx yyy (500:812/99.99) and so on, you can continue it yourself, you can also choose the number of options yourselfcount (the examples given assume the same recipient). Currently implemented (and living for about... well, almost a year, probably) Gating to an address based on the recipient's name. More details: The name of the author of an incoming letter from spbzkhnet is checked for presence in the pointlist (and its correspondence, i.e. Bobow != Bobov). If there is a match - a letter to the echo passes. Otherwise, it boils over. This eliminates the possibility of emails getting in an echo from people who are not on the pointlist. The disadvantages are obvious: it requires fresh pointlist. It becomes impossible to write to an echo from an alias. Problems with letters from the Coordinator/Moderator/Co-moderator. The problems, in fact, solvable, but not completely. Letter outside SPbzkhnet (if this letter goes to officially gated echo conference) looks like a letter from a BBS user. In any case, it is unlikely that anyone will be able to identify it in any other way. :) The advantage is that you don’t have to ask permission from the echo moderator to possibility of gating. Write to yourself and do everything. ;) We won’t consider reverse gating, it’s clear and understandable. Unless the true address of the fidosh sender will be mixed into the false original ( + Origin:,,,), and my (gate) zkhnetovsky is shoved into the real field of the origin. The situation is more complicated with netmail (the stumbling block of this whole protractedpsychopathy on my part). Because, since the address in the gated echo is from the St. Petersburg is not saved anywhere, which means the only identifier is the first/last name him. Which is what is being checked. Those. When he came to me (at the gate) he didn’t go to the gate address but for the username spbzkhneta is checked using a mask consisting of everything pointleaf. If the first/last name matches, the letter will be converted into SPbzkhnetovsky format to the address specified in the pointlist. In any other case, the letter is marinated with me until I either (in a good mood) correct it with pens, or (when you want something bad) just nail it down. Minus, Naturally, it is necessary for everyone who wants to write to St. Petersburg to know literally the exact name/surname from the SPbzkhnetovsky pointlist. On the other hand, falling into the echo (and not washing too!) letters from non-existent in this very pointlist excluded. (we are talking about that part of the spbzkhnet that is located on Wicoms and uses a non-PC data transfer format). Well, about your own problems, such as receiving crooked non-soap letters from both sides of the gate, getting bumps from the moderators, and other-other-other I’ll just keep silent... These are the pies. Thank you if you have read to the end of this letter. With all kinds of regards and wishes. Igor.