NEMO's review of FRUNZE's video about CC999

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From Vyacheslav Mednonogov To All 21 July 2000

=============================================================================== | Forwarded by Vyacheslav Mednonogov (500:812/1.30) | Area : HARLANS.FORWARD (HARLANS forward!) | From : Vsevolod Potapov, 2:5030/920.20 (20 Jul 00 17:10) | To: All | Subj : NEMO's review of FRUNZE's video about CC999 =============================================================================== Greetings, _All_! === Cut === Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:20:33 +1100 From: [killed] To: Sergey Zotov Subject: (C)Nemo about CC999 film Hello, Here's what (C)Nemo's review of the CC999 film promised: Review of Frunze's film "HC-99", based on event of the same name "- Girl,... my name is Givi... - ... “You have to do business, business...” "One among strangers, a stranger among one's own" dir. N. Mikhalkov. "Oh, Vasya, look what clowns, Mouth, at least sew some strings... Oh, Vasya, look how smooth they are... like drunks." V.Vysotsky "What is this: stupidity or treason?" Miliukov, deputy of the 2nd state. Duma Actually, the reason for the appearance of the review zi is quite obvious. Having agreed with Frunze about the distribution of his film on video cassettes through channels of the company (c) Nemo, inspired by happiness that I had finally completedit happened, and having received the master cassette, I sat down view. And what did I see there? A I saw something. But more on that below. to me “this” needs to be sold somehow - money already invested. And how will I “do this” now? sell? At least in my responsibilities It is important to give a general idea of what the client will receive by paying his blood money. In other words, it is necessary review. So that they don’t tell me later, that the Cossack was sent, I will speak out. So, in order. 1. The film lasts 90 minutes. But this is not G- guy Vertov, although this is a film, not reporting and non-journalistic documentary new cinema. Information and content to look for it shouldn’t be in the film - it’s not there. Above form dominates everything. Namely, clip-on tion. Those. something in the form of demo-making on Spectrum. We have to admit that the circle closed up. Of the demomakers who came rushed to NS-99 (and there were probably more of them) majority) demonstrate their technology highly refined, undoubtedly very AWESOME craftsmanship - they made it out of them themselves COOL demo. In the style of Rap (or Rave? - by By and large, it doesn’t matter). Finished form completely defeated the content. To everyone who yes- gave Frunze an interview, explained something, before brought his conscience to the attention of the public images on Spectrum in general and in their own way activities in particular who tried talk about your projects in Spectrum,etc, - please break it off, they are simply jammed during installation. Moreover, we are not talking about CENSORSHIP, we are talking about the emasculation of co- holding, - total emasculation and ab- solitude Video feed rate, applied used in the clips, leaves no chance owls to hold on to at least a grain of content, at least a shred of meaning. The film is so I'm glad that it can be shown at least now an hour on ORT. 2. It should not be considered that this is a film about HC-99. Rather, this is a film about: 2.1. How does Frunze himself perceive the action? tweetability 2.2. How Frunze can do COOL things clips. (This is exactly so, - from the telephone conversation with Frunze it turned out that the main The new goal was... COOL.) 2.3. As from a meaningful and, in general, something, AT LEAST SOMETHING organized by our own early people to make an absurdist collage. The public are nothing more than extras - are they... Sheny voices. A cycle of snatched phrases, faces and screensavers makes the viewer perceive take the film as something whole, indivisible into pieces. Some kind of verbalization, some understanding beyond the framework of a holistic product, proposed by Frunze is impossible. And tse- a polished product is perception Frunze (see paragraph 2.1). Thus, except It’s hard to see Frunze as someone else in the film. content. 3. Therefore, let's talk about HOW Frunze sees Spectrum. And he sees him as follows. 3.1. Everything died long ago. While the corpse of the windows isnot completely decomposed, it is necessary to actively but to plunder, making it for yourself capital Because, in Frunze’s opinion, this is already devoid of content, the goal is in demonstrating their own technical opportunities for further re-production sales (According to Frunze, the standard is Xia MTV. In my opinion, MTV really standard, but in the sense of a MAXI FAN PIPE SMALL DIAMETER, which one day prophesied shaft. The standard of debilitation existing on level of a non-systemic unit. 3.2. Spectrum's slates are simple it's an all-Russian booze, the audience gathers It is meant to be annoying and annoying. It must be said that the public itself is in this succeeded. Now let it be on itself will look... Maybe this is it AT LEAST SOME positive content - ness. Namely, a vile cartoon. If not if you puked on the NS-99, you’ll puke, watching a movie, maybe he’ll go to benefit. It is also interesting to think about about HOW Spectrum will be perceived by people people who have no idea about it? How half-drunk homeless guy? Any video sequence, bu- Duchi is fixed at the level of the subcortex, requires its actualization, representation outside. It's scary to think about what happened. will go down at the next meeting. After all, the public seriously decides THAT IT WAS SO, SO IT SHOULD BE. WHAT IS THIS REAL? HOST. As a rule, boys 16 - 24 years old do notmaster psychotechnics that allow divide the subconscious from the conscious in own psyche, not to mention so that, with the help of subconscious regulation, conscious and with the help of conscious to regulate the subconscious. A this means that the perceived STEREOTYPE, imposed on Frunze, will be reproduced to be replicated and replicated BEHAVIORALLY. Those. this is zombies. When Homo lurking unattended Sapiensa, is scary. But this is what will happen, because the film (clip) is non-verbal and may be perceived only as something integral, i.e. SUBCONSCIOUSLY. By the way, - again from Frunze’s conversations, - find out It was reported that the film is dubbed in English com, - for REPRODUCTION ABROAD. What will they think about Spectrum?!!! And about Russia AT ALL? It wouldn’t even occur to them, that this is just a person, not spoiled in reading as a child, got to first grade new equipment, - well, I did it... This is a used children be perceived as WITNESS, AS FACT. And you, that is, those who came to sl╦t, - like a HERD of IDIOTS. 3.3. Commercial distribution in NOT POSSIBLE on the Spectrum platform. (This is valid That's right, because COPYRIGHT is not is observed.) But from the fact that it is impossible to give to IM (i.e. Spectrum users), It does not at all follow that you cannot sell THEM. Which was done brilliantly. Target au-The audience is PC USERS. More precisely, that part that is nostalgic for freedom of Spectrum, sitting in emulsions tor's clerks on PCs - as usual lol, online. They are pleased to see this presentation of events dominated point of view about the degradation of Spectrum. This means they were right in switching to RS-k. Distribution was intended only to CD-ROMs. That's how pissyushniks have joy will be, - full pants, - Spectrum, It turns out, NOT MORE THAN A STOCK STOCK. Distribution in Spectrum is IMPOSSIBLE. And the company (c) Nemo got into trouble out of stupidity and I got the money because... ALL█ CAPTURED. (By- why - see below.) Spectrum was used like the texture, the background - the film was not shot for Spectrum'ists, because THEY ARE ALL█ EQUAL NOT THEY PAY, and therefore they were awarded this film. As they say, whoever pays is the one who pays orders the music. 4. And finally, a rhetorical question, which the Romans asked themselves when SOMETHING happened - look for who benefits from it. From- the wind, by the way, lies on the surface. UNITS- TV advertising that is in the film - This is an ADVERTISING FOR SCORPION. Exactly with e╦ technical assistance and under the wise guidance The film was laid out under the direction of Zonov. In re- The result was exactly what was needed Scorpion, - namely, the following: 4.1. Spectrum died, I was left half-drunk naya shobla (it’s easy to think of this idea before end - you need to buy a PC-k, - which is your ownThat’s exactly what Zonov needs). 4.2. Scorpion clerks have nothing to do say about your new activity are you in Spectrum? - no problem. Just REFUGE- WE GIVE Frunze what he needs to make a video (i.e. we impose a form), and, automatically ki, DUE TO THE FORM, EVERYONE SHUT UP THE MOUTH, - EVEN THOSE WHO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. This really cool - censored via navya- calling the form. Creative find, - bo- I am sure, however, that it is not Frunze. 4.3. We get good commercial dacha in RS. PC people should watch this YATO, - besides, it corresponds to their intellectual level. As they say, according to Senka and a hat. 4.4. An undoubted creative find can also be considered INSTALLATION of your submission nogo servant, the author of these lines, - with whomever Have you thought? - with a homeless person. It's strong. This works. Why long dialogues? After all Nemo can SAY something..., - you- giving headlong to his low intellect - al level and some are not quite li- things that are attractive to the CUSTOMER of the film. Therefore no conversations, - just mounted in- those with a homeless person, and into the subcortex, into the subconscious viewer. It is unlikely that he will be able to give se- no CONSCIOUS report of why he perceived Nemo waves exactly this way, and not in any other way. what? Score five points. This is real PR (reads "PR" - translated from English - whom - "public relations" :-), - which in reality, as a rule, turn out to bebanal control of mass consciousness I eat). And the tempo of the clip (i.e. the form of presentation material) does not favor the august conversations. This is not “Swan Lake” for you, - the time of presence in the frame is determined and directly proportional to alcohol content in the blood. Temporhythmics, plasticity - everything is in sacrifice to form. The clip must be COOL, otherwise Why won't they be noticed on MTV? And in fact, Frunze's prospects are cloudless, - he, not - will undoubtedly be in demand. Not everyone has talent from a meaningful collection of people to do through a television camera homeless person, - in the process, BASHLASHED VS█ CONTENTS. Such talent on television worth its weight in gold. At the same time, chastely un- change and does not realize the uncleanliness and the dirt of your work, - i.e. IDEAL IS SUPPLIER. What is the conclusion? That's right, - there is no alternative, - everything is in gov- no, - Scorpion remains, - it is necessary to bathe RS-k. 5. Well, what conclusions can be drawn and sum it up? 5.1. You should buy the film AT LEAST who was present there so THEY could appreciate how masterfully you can DISTORT a re- ality. This is sobering. In addition, it is possible to instantly achieve understanding understanding the essence of television. Those. I don't require- there is contemplation (watching) of TV with with the sound and image turned off - how then Pelevin recommends - within 15 years 5.2. Personally, I decided that Frun-ze probably won't cover the following sl╦ty, - for the simple reason that it’s unlikely will anyone communicate with him AT ALL? after what he saw. (I mean people WHO IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING In SPECTRUM). To everyone else who sleeps and sees themselves on the TV screen - and that’s all I dream about - no, - we can recommend getting drunk to the point of dewy squeal. This is a guarantee of getting into frame. What kind of demos will you write and what did something useful at Spectrum, for Frun- it doesn't matter anymore. Shocking, shocking and once again shocking, - as the great Le- taught nin. More eccentricity. It is possible for example, appear at a meeting in a budnovka with a spreading star and pneumatic rifle under his arm. The more unsuitable in good light you expose yourself, the frame better. Today, at 19.30 03/19/2000, I called Frunze: You never know, maybe not everything is lost? Maybe he still has the originals, the original nicks, cassettes? (For distribution f. Nemo purchased 180 min cassettes, not 90, - 90 min was not, the difference in price not significant. That is it would be possible to make up everything that DOES NOT FIT INTO THE IDEAS NUYU KANVU FRUNZE). But this is impossible. Everything closed. Here's to you, grandma, and St. George's Day. At first there was a feeling that Frunze simply DOES NOT UNDERSTAND that he was used van disposable, like a condom, by company Scorpion. But after his words: “VS█ ZAT█-RTO, NO SOURCES", - accounts for the prize- It must be said that HE CONSCIOUSLY INSISTS ON THE BUT ON YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION OF EVENTS. Well then, - this is his right. At the same time, no one deprived f. (c) Nemo rights to see events somewhat differently. For example, in this way, as stated in the review. P.S. A little about disposability. This is not coincidence and not an accident. But on the contrary, typical and commercially viable type business. If there is a business, then there is also a new work schemes. If you access the diagram, - then the whole business is in full view. Scheme is implemented repeatedly and cyclically, - on then she is the scheme. In this way OBHSS (from- cases to combat theft of socialist which property - subdivision in structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Help for those who ra was born) calculated the shop workers at the beginning 80s Disposability is very practical - it is used used a man - and into his ditch, - with Out of sight. The same scheme was used name is Dima Lomov. Zonov then needed We need to advertise our next bullshit - GMX. Dima was a coder for "Spect- rum-Expert", a magazine that had a certain weight, a certain credit to trust among users. Yes, and Dima himself was a very authoritative person in Spectrum. He acquired immeasurable steepness - his fingers everyone was like a fan of him, - and on their feet... same. Zonov suggested that he write a text A new editor for GMX is absolutely a thingunrealistic, because Zonov HIMSELF UNDERSTANDED that This is bullshit, a piece of papier-mâché. Designation the meaning of which is placement on the display window PC shop for luring Spect- rum's lamers. And Dima BUYED the sa- prayers (plus they promised a little money, which he, of course, did not receive). And started. "GMX is so beautiful - distribution beautiful, but it also has this... , - etc." And all this in the magazine "Spectrum-Ex- pert" in the NAME OF Dima Lomov. I wonder how many lamers got money from Dimi- no feed? I think several dozen, - multiply by the GMX price and you get the amount for which Zonov sold Dimina re- confusion in Spectrum. And the reputation is as a conscience, it is not for sale. Those. ku- You can drink it, but you can’t sell it. This product disappears like smoke in a moment purchases and sales. Something I haven't seen since then - but you can’t hear Dima in the Spectrum... Poor the lady still blushes when I come out “I remember him the apotheosis of his end- Ricky in "Spectrum-Expert": "Oh,... fast I wish I could... I wish I had GMX sooner..." It and it’s clear - this is a disgrace for him to wear now to gray hair. It's good not to blush I forgot how. But they warned Dima about "single use". Something... fingers are no longer fanned out in that way ze, in which Zonov placed him. By the way, after that, XTR began to fall apart. Slava Dangeroz (X-Trade) realized that hispartner IS FOR SALE. They lured me with money, and Dima ran half-bent. And he demanded - he is not like a coder, but like a clown, cap and with bells. 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From Eugene Palenock To All 21 July 2000

Hello All! 21 Jul 00 00:53, Vyacheslav Mednonogov -> All: VM> 2.1. How Frunze himself perceives the action VM> tweetability Well, the film always reflects the director’s perception. VM> 2.2. How Frunze can do COOL VM> clips. (This is exactly so - from telephone VM> conversation with Frunze, it turned out that the basic VM> the target was... STEP.) If there is no money (almost) then everything is determined by the human factor... VM> 3.1. Everything died long ago. While the corpse of windows- Isn't it? VM> 3.2. Spectrum's slats are simple- VM> it’s an all-Russian booze, the public gathers - VM> is meant to give in and bully. I think so even without the subject film. And I don’t consider it worthy to appear on international gathering of drunks. VM> about HOW people will perceive Spectrum VM> people who have no idea about it? How VM> half-drunk homeless guy? A sober person can earn money on an IBM PC VM> after what he saw. (I mean people VM> WHO IS REALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING VM> IN SPECTRUM). Are they trying or doing?... Best regards, Evgeniy.

From Wladimir Bulchukey To Eugene Palenock 22 July 2000

Greetings, Eugene! 21 Jul 00 14:08, Eugene Palenock -> All: VM>> conversation with Frunze it turned out that the basic VM>> the target was... STEP.) EP> If there is (almost) no money, then everything is determined by human EP> factor... And after buying such a “work” there is no money and from those who bought. Frunze is filming -> Arty is doing PR -> the user pays. Standard chain called "scam". VM>> 3.1. Everything died long ago. While the corpse of windows- EP> Isn't it? No. We're still alive. If someone doesn't like it - this can be fixed. In 50-70 years. Be patient a little longer. VM>> 3.2. Spectrum's slats are simple- VM>> it’s an all-Russian booze, the public gathers - VM>> is meant to give in and bully. EP> I think so even without the subject film. And I don’t consider it worthy EP> appearance at an international gathering of drunks. Clear division into "party" and "hidden part" has existed at least since Enlight'97. And it is respected! There is no need to mix cutlets and flies. No one forces you to go to the “hidden part”, if your beliefs don't allow it. /ps: hidden parts exist in most adultsand serious meetings, symposia, conferences, etc. Sometimes they are officially proclaimed as banquets, sometimes they really look like a hidden part. Examples that have become classics can be found in abundance even in Soviet literature and cinema ;) . /pps: without hidden parts it’s boring even for a sober person. IMHO. /ppps: judging by MAGGOTS.COLONY, on pointing birds /2065 you happen. And from the alcoholic stories of their participants even I feel sick. But you don’t offer freedom of choice: your Areafix does not allow you to unsubscribe from the named conference, that is, there is an imposition of a certain point of view, the official "sysop is always right", so to speak. EP> A sober person can earn money on an IBM PC A question to ask a sober person: where is your real Spectrum? Let's listen to the answer like “I don’t need it now”? /ps: a sober person may not make money on a PC if there is an immoral government in the country, anti-people government and their criminal circle. VM>> I mean people VM>> WHO IS REALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING VM>> IN SPECTRUM. EP> Are they trying or doing?... True freedom of creativity is impossible under the "market" economy", "democratic freedoms" and see above. Therefore, we must bow our heads even to thosewho even tries to do something in such inhumane conditions. With the best - Wlodek. mailto: wlblack@chat.ru [ZX] [Golyanovo] [Radio "Retro" 72.92 MHz]

From Eugene Palenock To Dmitry Grigoryev 24 July 2000

Hello Dmitry! 23 Jul 00 02:04, Dmitry Grigoryev -> Eugene Palenock: VM>>> 3.1. Everything died a long time ago. While the windows are dead - EP>> Isn’t it? DG> No, of course. Judge _not_only_ by yourself - you "died" four (!) years ago. Why is this 4? My PC is 1.5 years old, and I wrote the last program for ZX a year ago back... Best regards, Evgeniy.