NEMO's review of FRUNZE's video about CC999
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From Vyacheslav Mednonogov → To All 21 July 2000
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Greetings, _All_!
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:20:33 +1100
From: [killed]
To: Sergey Zotov
Subject: (C)Nemo about CC999 film
Hello,
Here's what (C)Nemo's review of the CC999 film promised:
Review of Frunze's film "HC-99",
based on
event of the same name
"- Girl,... my name is Givi...
- ...
“You have to do business, business...”
"One among strangers, a stranger among one's own"
dir. N. Mikhalkov.
"Oh, Vasya, look what clowns,
Mouth, at least sew some strings...
Oh, Vasya, look how smooth they are...
like drunks."
V.Vysotsky
"What is this: stupidity or treason?"
Miliukov, deputy of the 2nd state. Duma
Actually, the reason for the appearance of the review
zi is quite obvious. Having agreed with
Frunze about the distribution of his film on video
cassettes through channels of the company (c) Nemo,
inspired by happiness that I had finally completedit happened, and having received the master cassette, I sat down
view. And what did I see there? A
I saw something. But more on that below. to me
“this” needs to be sold somehow - money
already invested. And how will I “do this” now?
sell? At least in my responsibilities
It is important to give a general idea of
what the client will receive by paying his
blood money. In other words, it is necessary
review. So that they don’t tell me later,
that the Cossack was sent, I will speak out.
So, in order.
1. The film lasts 90 minutes. But this is not G-
guy Vertov, although this is a film, not
reporting and non-journalistic documentary
new cinema. Information and content to look for
it shouldn’t be in the film - it’s not there. Above
form dominates everything. Namely, clip-on
tion. Those. something in the form of demo-making on
Spectrum. We have to admit that the circle
closed up. Of the demomakers who came
rushed to NS-99 (and there were probably more of them)
majority) demonstrate their technology
highly refined, undoubtedly very
AWESOME craftsmanship - they made it out of them themselves
COOL demo. In the style of Rap (or Rave? - by
By and large, it doesn’t matter). Finished form
completely defeated the content. To everyone who yes-
gave Frunze an interview, explained something, before
brought his conscience to the attention of the public
images on Spectrum in general and in their own way
activities in particular who tried
talk about your projects in Spectrum,etc, - please break it off, they are simply
jammed during installation. Moreover, we are not talking
about CENSORSHIP, we are talking about the emasculation of co-
holding, - total emasculation and ab-
solitude Video feed rate, applied
used in the clips, leaves no chance
owls to hold on to at least a grain of content,
at least a shred of meaning. The film is so
I'm glad that it can be shown at least now
an hour on ORT.
2. It should not be considered that this is a film about
HC-99. Rather, this is a film about:
2.1. How does Frunze himself perceive the action?
tweetability
2.2. How Frunze can do COOL things
clips. (This is exactly so, - from the telephone
conversation with Frunze it turned out that the main
The new goal was... COOL.)
2.3. As from a meaningful and, in general,
something, AT LEAST SOMETHING organized by our own
early people to make an absurdist collage.
The public are nothing more than extras - are they...
Sheny voices. A cycle of snatched phrases,
faces and screensavers makes the viewer perceive
take the film as something whole, indivisible
into pieces. Some kind of verbalization, some
understanding beyond the framework of a holistic product,
proposed by Frunze is impossible. And tse-
a polished product is perception
Frunze (see paragraph 2.1). Thus, except
It’s hard to see Frunze as someone else in the film.
content.
3. Therefore, let's talk about HOW
Frunze sees Spectrum. And he sees him
as follows.
3.1. Everything died long ago. While the corpse of the windows isnot completely decomposed, it is necessary to actively
but to plunder, making it for yourself
capital Because, in Frunze’s opinion,
this is already devoid of content, the goal is
in demonstrating their own technical
opportunities for further re-production
sales (According to Frunze, the standard is
Xia MTV. In my opinion, MTV really
standard, but in the sense of a MAXI FAN PIPE
SMALL DIAMETER, which one day prophesied
shaft. The standard of debilitation existing on
level of a non-systemic unit.
3.2. Spectrum's slates are simple
it's an all-Russian booze, the audience gathers
It is meant to be annoying and annoying.
It must be said that the public itself is in this
succeeded. Now let it be on itself
will look... Maybe this is it
AT LEAST SOME positive content -
ness. Namely, a vile cartoon. If not
if you puked on the NS-99, you’ll puke,
watching a movie, maybe he’ll go to
benefit. It is also interesting to think about
about HOW Spectrum will be perceived by people
people who have no idea about it? How
half-drunk homeless guy? Any video sequence, bu-
Duchi is fixed at the level of the subcortex,
requires its actualization, representation
outside. It's scary to think about what happened.
will go down at the next meeting. After all, the public
seriously decides THAT IT WAS SO, SO
IT SHOULD BE. WHAT IS THIS REAL?
HOST. As a rule, boys 16 - 24 years old do notmaster psychotechnics that allow
divide the subconscious from the conscious in
own psyche, not to mention
so that, with the help of subconscious regulation,
conscious and with the help of conscious
to regulate the subconscious. A
this means that the perceived STEREOTYPE,
imposed on Frunze, will be reproduced
to be replicated and replicated BEHAVIORALLY.
Those. this is zombies. When Homo
lurking unattended Sapiensa, is
scary. But this is what will happen, because
the film (clip) is non-verbal and may be
perceived only as something integral,
i.e. SUBCONSCIOUSLY. By the way, -
again from Frunze’s conversations, - find out
It was reported that the film is dubbed in English
com, - for REPRODUCTION ABROAD. What
will they think about Spectrum?!!! And about Russia
AT ALL? It wouldn’t even occur to them,
that this is just a person, not spoiled in
reading as a child, got to first grade
new equipment, - well, I did it... This is a used
children be perceived as WITNESS, AS
FACT. And you, that is, those who came to
sl╦t, - like a HERD of IDIOTS.
3.3. Commercial distribution in
NOT POSSIBLE on the Spectrum platform. (This is valid
That's right, because COPYRIGHT is not
is observed.) But from the fact that it is impossible to
give to IM (i.e. Spectrum users),
It does not at all follow that you cannot sell THEM.
Which was done brilliantly. Target au-The audience is PC USERS. More precisely,
that part that is nostalgic for
freedom of Spectrum, sitting in emulsions
tor's clerks on PCs - as usual
lol, online. They are pleased to see this
presentation of events dominated
point of view about the degradation of Spectrum.
This means they were right in switching to RS-k.
Distribution was intended only to
CD-ROMs. That's how pissyushniks have joy
will be, - full pants, - Spectrum,
It turns out, NOT MORE THAN A STOCK STOCK.
Distribution in Spectrum is IMPOSSIBLE.
And the company (c) Nemo got into trouble out of stupidity and
I got the money because... ALL█ CAPTURED. (By-
why - see below.) Spectrum was used
like the texture, the background - the film was not shot for
Spectrum'ists, because THEY ARE ALL█ EQUAL NOT
THEY PAY, and therefore they were awarded this
film. As they say, whoever pays is the one who pays
orders the music.
4. And finally, a rhetorical question,
which the Romans asked themselves when SOMETHING
happened - look for who benefits from it. From-
the wind, by the way, lies on the surface. UNITS-
TV advertising that is in the film -
This is an ADVERTISING FOR SCORPION. Exactly with e╦
technical assistance and under the wise guidance
The film was laid out under the direction of Zonov. In re-
The result was exactly what was needed
Scorpion, - namely, the following:
4.1. Spectrum died, I was left half-drunk
naya shobla (it’s easy to think of this idea before
end - you need to buy a PC-k, - which is your ownThat’s exactly what Zonov needs).
4.2. Scorpion clerks have nothing to do
say about your new activity
are you in Spectrum? - no problem. Just REFUGE-
WE GIVE Frunze what he needs to make a video
(i.e. we impose a form), and, automatically
ki, DUE TO THE FORM, EVERYONE SHUT UP THE MOUTH, -
EVEN THOSE WHO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. This
really cool - censored via navya-
calling the form. Creative find, - bo-
I am sure, however, that it is not Frunze.
4.3. We get good commercial
dacha in RS. PC people should watch this
YATO, - besides, it corresponds to their
intellectual level. As they say,
according to Senka and a hat.
4.4. An undoubted creative find
can also be considered INSTALLATION of your submission
nogo servant, the author of these lines, - with whomever
Have you thought? - with a homeless person. It's strong. This
works. Why long dialogues? After all
Nemo can SAY something..., - you-
giving headlong to his low intellect -
al level and some are not quite li-
things that are attractive to the CUSTOMER of the film. Therefore
no conversations, - just mounted in-
those with a homeless person, and into the subcortex, into the subconscious
viewer. It is unlikely that he will be able to give se-
no CONSCIOUS report of why he perceived
Nemo waves exactly this way, and not in any other way.
what? Score five points. This is real PR
(reads "PR" - translated from English -
whom - "public relations" :-), -
which in reality, as a rule, turn out to bebanal control of mass consciousness
I eat). And the tempo of the clip (i.e. the form of presentation
material) does not favor the august
conversations. This is not “Swan Lake” for you, -
the time of presence in the frame is determined and
directly proportional to alcohol content
in the blood. Temporhythmics, plasticity - everything is in
sacrifice to form. The clip must be COOL, otherwise
Why won't they be noticed on MTV? And in fact,
Frunze's prospects are cloudless, - he, not -
will undoubtedly be in demand. Not everyone
has talent from a meaningful collection
of people to do through a television camera
homeless person, - in the process, BASHLASHED VS█
CONTENTS. Such talent on television
worth its weight in gold. At the same time, chastely un-
change and does not realize the uncleanliness and
the dirt of your work, - i.e. IDEAL IS
SUPPLIER.
What is the conclusion? That's right,
- there is no alternative, - everything is in gov-
no, - Scorpion remains, - it is necessary to
bathe RS-k.
5. Well, what conclusions can be drawn and
sum it up?
5.1. You should buy the film AT LEAST
who was present there so THEY could
appreciate how masterfully you can DISTORT a re-
ality. This is sobering. In addition,
it is possible to instantly achieve understanding
understanding the essence of television. Those. I don't require-
there is contemplation (watching) of TV with
with the sound and image turned off - how
then Pelevin recommends - within 15
years
5.2. Personally, I decided that Frun-ze probably won't cover the following
sl╦ty, - for the simple reason that it’s unlikely
will anyone communicate with him AT ALL?
after what he saw. (I mean people
WHO IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING
In SPECTRUM).
To everyone else who sleeps and sees themselves
on the TV screen - and that’s all I dream about -
no, - we can recommend getting drunk to the point of
dewy squeal. This is a guarantee of getting into
frame. What kind of demos will you write and what
did something useful at Spectrum, for Frun-
it doesn't matter anymore. Shocking, shocking
and once again shocking, - as the great Le- taught
nin. More eccentricity. It is possible
for example, appear at a meeting in a budnovka
with a spreading star and pneumatic
rifle under his arm. The more unsuitable
in good light you expose yourself, the frame
better.
Today, at 19.30 03/19/2000, I called
Frunze: You never know, maybe not everything is lost?
Maybe he still has the originals, the original
nicks, cassettes? (For distribution f.
Nemo purchased 180 min cassettes, not
90, - 90 min was not, the difference in price
not significant. That is it would be possible to
make up everything that DOES NOT FIT INTO THE IDEAS
NUYU KANVU FRUNZE). But this is impossible. Everything
closed. Here's to you, grandma, and St. George's Day.
At first there was a feeling that Frunze
simply DOES NOT UNDERSTAND that he was used
van disposable, like a condom, by company
Scorpion. But after his words: “VS█ ZAT█-RTO, NO SOURCES", - accounts for the prize-
It must be said that HE CONSCIOUSLY INSISTS ON THE
BUT ON YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION OF EVENTS. Well then,
- this is his right. At the same time, no one
deprived f. (c) Nemo rights to see events
somewhat differently. For example, in this way,
as stated in the review.
P.S. A little about disposability. This is not
coincidence and not an accident. But on the contrary,
typical and commercially viable type
business. If there is a business, then there is also a
new work schemes. If you access the diagram, -
then the whole business is in full view. Scheme
is implemented repeatedly and cyclically, - on
then she is the scheme. In this way OBHSS (from-
cases to combat theft of socialist
which property - subdivision in
structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Help for those who
ra was born) calculated the shop workers at the beginning
80s
Disposability is very practical - it is used
used a man - and into his ditch, - with
Out of sight. The same scheme was used
name is Dima Lomov. Zonov then needed
We need to advertise our next
bullshit - GMX. Dima was a coder for "Spect-
rum-Expert", a magazine that had
a certain weight, a certain credit to
trust among users. Yes, and Dima himself was
a very authoritative person in Spectrum.
He acquired immeasurable steepness - his fingers
everyone was like a fan of him, - and on their feet...
same.
Zonov suggested that he write a text
A new editor for GMX is absolutely a thingunrealistic, because Zonov HIMSELF UNDERSTANDED that
This is bullshit, a piece of papier-mâché. Designation
the meaning of which is placement on the display window
PC shop for luring Spect-
rum's lamers. And Dima BUYED the sa-
prayers (plus they promised a little money,
which he, of course, did not receive). And
started. "GMX is so beautiful - distribution
beautiful, but it also has this... , -
etc." And all this in the magazine "Spectrum-Ex-
pert" in the NAME OF Dima Lomov. I wonder
how many lamers got money from Dimi-
no feed? I think several dozen, -
multiply by the GMX price and you get
the amount for which Zonov sold Dimina re-
confusion in Spectrum. And the reputation is
as a conscience, it is not for sale. Those. ku-
You can drink it, but you can’t sell it.
This product disappears like smoke in a moment
purchases and sales. Something I haven't seen since then -
but you can’t hear Dima in the Spectrum... Poor
the lady still blushes when I come out
“I remember him the apotheosis of his end-
Ricky in "Spectrum-Expert": "Oh,... fast
I wish I could... I wish I had GMX sooner..." It and
it’s clear - this is a disgrace for him to wear now
to gray hair. It's good not to blush
I forgot how. But they warned Dima about
"single use". Something...
fingers are no longer fanned out in that way
ze, in which Zonov placed him. By the way,
after that, XTR began to fall apart.
Slava Dangeroz (X-Trade) realized that hispartner IS FOR SALE. They lured me with money, and
Dima ran half-bent. And he demanded -
he is not like a coder, but like a clown,
cap and with bells. So Frunze is not
lonely The question is who's next.
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From Eugene Palenock → To All 21 July 2000
Hello All!
21 Jul 00 00:53, Vyacheslav Mednonogov -> All:
VM> 2.1. How Frunze himself perceives the action
VM> tweetability
Well, the film always reflects the director’s perception.
VM> 2.2. How Frunze can do COOL
VM> clips. (This is exactly so - from telephone
VM> conversation with Frunze, it turned out that the basic
VM> the target was... STEP.)
If there is no money (almost) then everything is determined by the human factor...
VM> 3.1. Everything died long ago. While the corpse of windows-
Isn't it?
VM> 3.2. Spectrum's slats are simple-
VM> it’s an all-Russian booze, the public gathers -
VM> is meant to give in and bully.
I think so even without the subject film. And I don’t consider it worthy to appear on
international gathering of drunks.
VM> about HOW people will perceive Spectrum
VM> people who have no idea about it? How
VM> half-drunk homeless guy?
A sober person can earn money on an IBM PC
VM> after what he saw. (I mean people
VM> WHO IS REALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING VM> IN SPECTRUM).
Are they trying or doing?...
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From Wladimir Bulchukey → To Eugene Palenock 22 July 2000
Greetings, Eugene!
21 Jul 00 14:08, Eugene Palenock -> All:
VM>> conversation with Frunze it turned out that the basic
VM>> the target was... STEP.)
EP> If there is (almost) no money, then everything is determined by human
EP> factor...
And after buying such a “work” there is no money
and from those who bought. Frunze is filming -> Arty is doing PR
-> the user pays. Standard chain called "scam".
VM>> 3.1. Everything died long ago. While the corpse of windows-
EP> Isn't it?
No. We're still alive. If someone doesn't like it -
this can be fixed. In 50-70 years. Be patient a little longer.
VM>> 3.2. Spectrum's slats are simple-
VM>> it’s an all-Russian booze, the public gathers -
VM>> is meant to give in and bully.
EP> I think so even without the subject film. And I don’t consider it worthy
EP> appearance at an international gathering of drunks.
Clear division into "party" and "hidden part"
has existed at least since Enlight'97.
And it is respected!
There is no need to mix cutlets and flies.
No one forces you to go to the “hidden part”,
if your beliefs don't allow it.
/ps: hidden parts exist in most adultsand serious meetings, symposia, conferences, etc.
Sometimes they are officially proclaimed as banquets,
sometimes they really look like a hidden part.
Examples that have become classics can be found in abundance
even in Soviet literature and cinema ;) .
/pps: without hidden parts it’s boring even for a sober person.
IMHO.
/ppps: judging by MAGGOTS.COLONY, on pointing birds /2065
you happen. And from the alcoholic stories of their participants
even I feel sick. But you don’t offer freedom of choice:
your Areafix does not allow you to unsubscribe from the named conference,
that is, there is an imposition of a certain point of view,
the official "sysop is always right", so to speak.
EP> A sober person can earn money on an IBM PC
A question to ask a sober person:
where is your real Spectrum? Let's listen to the answer
like “I don’t need it now”?
/ps: a sober person may not make money on a PC
if there is an immoral government in the country,
anti-people government and their criminal circle.
VM>> I mean people
VM>> WHO IS REALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING
VM>> IN SPECTRUM.
EP> Are they trying or doing?...
True freedom of creativity is impossible under the "market"
economy", "democratic freedoms" and see above.
Therefore, we must bow our heads even to thosewho even tries to do something in such
inhumane conditions.
With the best - Wlodek. mailto: wlblack@chat.ru
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From Eugene Palenock → To Dmitry Grigoryev 24 July 2000
Hello Dmitry!
23 Jul 00 02:04, Dmitry Grigoryev -> Eugene Palenock:
VM>>> 3.1. Everything died a long time ago. While the windows are dead -
EP>> Isn’t it?
DG> No, of course. Judge _not_only_ by yourself - you "died" four (!) years ago.
Why is this 4? My PC is 1.5 years old, and I wrote the last program for ZX a year ago
back...
Best regards, Evgeniy.