[FWD] UK visa refusal or how often do you sleep with your husband (1/2)
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From Alexej Antipov → To All 26 January 2001
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* Forwarded by Alexej Antipov (500:95/468.6)
* Region : RU.ANTIVIZA (/2065)
* From: Alexander Netuzhilov, 2:5030/497.601 (23 Jan 01 23:18)
* To: All,
* Topic: refusal of an English visa or how often do you sleep with your husband (1/2)
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A day ago I published in RU.ANTIVIZA the writings of one good person on
about the bummer with obtaining an English visa in a Russian passport. And for the last
hours, 4 (four!) letters arrived in response to this. And I decided to repeat the publication
my own writings from December 1998 on the same not-fun topic with
Great Britain.
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THIS IS THE GESTAPO
or
HOW MANY TIMES A DAY DO YOU SLEEP WITH YOUR HUSBAND?
A telephone call broke the silence. At the other end of the line, a familiar woman was sobbing.
what a girl. She was brutally offended, insulted and humiliated. They did it
not hooligans and not even representatives of the Russian authorities. It was an ac-
a neatly dressed and combed man with a higher education and
speaks several languages.
He mocked cynically and sophisticatedly. He should have served in the KGB.
About your impressions from the conversation with the British Consul in St. Petersburg
Petersburg, my good friend Maria M., still a citizen, tells
Danin of the Russian Federation.AN: don't cry, Mashenka, these donkeys don't deserve it.
MM: I’ve already calmed down, some time has passed.
AN: I will publish this conversation of ours on the Internet, it will be useful to many
interesting.
MM: I don't care.
AN: so you decided to visit the UK. Why?
MM: you know I love traveling around Europe. and besides it was mine
last chance to see London.
AN: why the last one?
MM: because the last one. you know, in the summer Zhenya and I fly to
Argentina. We're flying away forever. And an Argentine passport giving the right to
visa-free entry into many countries of the world just closes entry into
England. England and Argentina are not very friendly because of the Falklands
war.
AN: I see. and so you decided to go. who invited you?
MM: I don't know anyone in the UK. after not without
With your help, the Internet began to live in every computer of our company, I
spent a couple of weeks on ICQ and a couple of young English guys
agreed to send me an invitation. I chose one of them...
AN: where did you study English?
MM: I’ve told you this more than once. I have a correspondence course in English (by the way)
those!) education at the bachelor's level. I even teach the language at the level
schools. well you know.
AN: I remember your lessons well ;-))
MM: don't get distracted! in a word, since I am the executive secretary with
knowledge of English, I speak fluently.AN: so, your level of correspondence on ICQ has reached the point where-
Yes, you were invited to hang out in London.
MM: yes.
AN: and you asked for an invitation to be sent to you by fax.
MM: exactly.
AN: where did you get the “fish” for the invitation?
MM: This is also very interesting. I called the consulate and asked how
what paper they need to satisfy them. and they answered me letter-
The following is true: “bring what they sent you.” and he himself invited-
the young English boy had no idea what was needed from him and also
asked me. in the end I couldn’t stand it and sent him a “fish”
constructed as an invitation to Germany, it was he who sent it to me
back, entering your details.
Moreover, the English boy, although he graduated from Oxford and traveled half of Europe,
ropy and half of the US doesn’t even understand what a “visa” is, let alone
what an "invitation" is
AN: I encountered a similar situation at the Latvian consulate in St. Petersburg. at
I have a good friend, a citizen of Latvia named Juris, who
I agree to issue me an invitation for a visa. in Latvia, original
cash invitation on the letterhead of the Latvian authorities. and neither I nor Juris
We know where to get these forms and what to do with them. but in the telephone dial-
log with me, someone from the Latvian consulate replied that “let your know
Which citizen of Latvia will send you an invitation. And if he doesn't know,how the invitation is made - then he is not a real citizen of Latvia! Because
every citizen of Latvia knows how invitations are made!!"
.........
so, did you receive a fax from this English guy?
MM: Absolutely right. and by 10 a.m., as I was told by phone,
went to the British Consulate in St. Petersburg.
AN: what papers did you take with you?
MM: remembering your instructions that any papers that
confirm a “close connection with Russia” and thereby discourage
illegal immigration I took:
1) a brand new, clean passport,
2) an internal passport confirming that I am married to Zhenya,
3) a certificate from work that my monthly salary = 550USD per month (certificate
they actually gave it to me in the accounting department and agreed to confirm this
figure on the phone, although it is overestimated)
4) a certificate from the husband’s work (Russian-German joint venture), which shows his
salary 940USD per month,
5) and, in fact, this very fax invitation.
besides, I took the money. trying to obtain a visa costs 60USD,
Payment is accepted only in rubles at the market rate.
AN: what happened next?
MM: I was received very coldly. after I paid at the cashier
consulate money, I was led to a window resembling a savings window
cash desk, where the official leisurely examined my papers and tookeverything except my internal passport, I declared that I needed
arrive on the same day at 16:30 for an interview.
going out into the street I realized that you were right when you said that English
The consulate is worse than the American one.
AN: I based my sayings on the information I have.
and it really is such that I am inclined to consider the English cons
lat of St. Petersburg THE MOST COMPLEX CONSULATE IN THE CITY, even more difficult
Canadian and American.
but let's get back to you. They let you go out for a few hours, what-
I would then torture you at an interview. Usually this is the time when officials use
use it to call the inviting person in England and make sure
that the invitation is not fake. the level of invitation is also checked
th. if this is a deputy minister or some millionaire - you immediately
they will stick a visa. and if this is an unknown student, most likely
they will refuse.
MM: then at 16:30 we drove up to the consulate and I entered
alone inside. There was a very short queue at the entrance - a person
8-10.
[to be continued]
With best wishes, A. Netuzhilov
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Hello All!
Sincere via, Alexej aka Marillion.