[FWD] About Gopniks ;)

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From Alexej Antipov To All 24 January 2001

============================================================================== * Forwarded by Alexej Antipov (500:95/468.6) * Region : RU.AUTOSTOP (/2065) * From: Filipp Leontiev, 2:461/33.57 (22 Jan 01 02:16) * To: Seva Gluschenko, * Topic: Hitchhiking and self-defense. ============================================================================== SG> you need to _talk_ with people, and so do bastards SG> people, no matter how strange it may seem to anyone. If you talk to them without showing them SG> fear, it’s unlikely to come to a fight. Here Andy posted a great article on the topic of gopot in summer, I found it in internet. === Cut === -+------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - There was a conversation like this: - ...here, in Russia, the destruction of consciousness is necessary as nowhere else in the country. Gopota, police-criminal form of power, philistinism and bestiality, everywhere sitting in the surrounding mass of people - all this requires very radical measures to destruction. - Why destroy this whole thing? In my opinion, bastards and criminals need cultivate[..] Gopniks have more spiritual potential than almost everyone other population groups. I thought and thought and wrote an article: -+------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - In the jaw! (study of the deep nature of Gopnik and related phenomena) simple guysparticipants of the last parade who are the earliest reach the sky... I would like to be able to speak the language of animals. I would like to read the text written by Gopnik about an intellectual. That is, of course I can do such a text myself come up with something, but it won't be true. The only authentic texts about Gopniks, written by the Gopniks themselves, these are explanatory notes. The rest is bullshit. The word gopnik is also bullshit. A disgusting word, it was invented by professors sons of Moscow and Leningrad. Shpana is better, urla is even better. Gopnik - Maask word. For some reason Mike sang "they're called suckers." e suckers. Suckers! This is also wrong. A sucker is not necessarily a gopnik. as far as I know, "sucker" In the original, this is a person who is easy to beat at cards. You can call him a sucker passive, completely law-abiding gopnik. There is also the word "syavka" (syavlo, syavlo). This is the southern version of the same phenomenon. Gopniks are found almost everywhere where there is a proletariat. Essentially a gopnik, they there is the proletariat in person. To love him or not to love him is up to you. You can't go anywhere without him - that's absolutely certain. Gopnik is immanently present modern society. It is disgusting like a barrel of fuel oil, but also inevitable, like the same barrel. Gopnik is an energy carrier, leave your idiotic arguments about folk spirituality. Gopnik is oil. The fear of the “white collar worker” is inevitable (quickly forget the word “intellectual”)in front of Gopnik. Class antagonism is too weak a definition. Incompatibility between species is hardwired into the liver. A dog has nothing to share with a cat, the dog simply takes pleasure in catching it and strangling it. Gopnik is distinguished by his magical ability to act directly. It makes no difference to him between thinking about breaking, for example, a face that is unpleasant to him and breaking this face. He doesn't reflect. While a thinking person puts his complex inner world, clarifying relationships and cause-and-effect relationships (such as "What will happen to me for this") Gopnik manages to inflict many, many blows on already lying body. One cannot help but admire the aesthetics of direct action, since such an approach carries within itself the seed of an impeccable innocence of existence. "Chinarik spat it out and shot point blank." Vladimir Semenovich sang his songs about Urla for "intelligentsia". But fig, Urla doesn’t need such songs. Urla is much more rhythmic from of its nature. Due to the Urla's undoubted ability for direct action, some dreamers are inclined perceive it as the bearer of some kind of feral rebellion, a soil revolution. One of these is my beloved Edik Limonov. Singer of spontaneous revolution bandit. What nonsense! You have to be a complete disabled person of all senses, to see in Gopnik the opposition to the Authority. This is nonsense. Because the gopnik is himself the elementary, lowest link of this power. The most important link. You think -where do cops come from? Gopnik is a cop. Gopnik's aggression is in no way similar to a desperate attack by the oppressed. This is the reaction of the Master, the reaction of the Watchman. Gopnik - master of life. The only legitimate power is the power of the people. Everything is perfect is correct and has always been so. Even if he hits a store window or breaks telephone booth - he operates at home. He brings order. Complain. It's like complaining about death. She will laugh in your spit-stained face an agent oozing with reckless life, and you will be squelching blood in a broken nose It doesn’t matter where - in a police station, in a mental hospital or in the entrance of your own house. This is his territory and he is the legal and powerful owner there. His favorite feature to be an executioner. This is what any power is worth - there is no power without an executioner. The best illustrations of this are prison and army. They exist solely because that there is legitimate power - the power of Gopnik. The power of the executioner. The executioner is the true truth and the salt of the earth. You can't get around him in simplicity - he always across the road. Lagerkvist wrote best about the Executioner. u and Mamleevs, Of course, what would it be like without him Fedor. Too extreme things. Too beautiful in its majestic ugliness. Gopniks are just weak projections of this universal archetype, but every time they will remind you with whom you really have in fact. If Gopnik is good at anything, it’s this reminder. He createsa feeling of the presence of Power and is absolutely irreplaceable in this role. When Gopnik is removed from the landscape (and there are places where they are not there at all), then it disappears the accompanying sour smell and neighing under the window at one in the morning, which creates the illusion of purity. In fact, the emasculation of the only living element Power, Power itself does not cancel. The price for peace is alienation. Self-deception: "with Out of sight, out of mind." He's not going anywhere. There is no need to look for it specifically - it will do just fine, will be interested in smoking. A relationship with him can only be built on skill It’s right to give or not let him smoke. The most correct attitude of the subject with Power arises when it achieves absolute transparency - that is invisibility. This is what Crowley did when he descended from the Himalayas to India and there he was attacked by local Indian gopniks. Crowley became invisible and thus decided this question. True, they say that for some reason he shot first, but still then I remembered that there is a safer way. Invisibility as a guarantee of freedom. There was a friend with me in the army, a Belarusian from Odessa, who never wore a dress. So, I got knocked up a couple of times by accident, but in general, life - did not go. He knew how to make the right facial expression. He said that he had in a dream such an expression. One day I looked at him at the divorce and saw through there is an asphalt parade ground. He practiced the water mode every time he neededto seep between the power lines of power. Of course, he doesn’t read any books. read, preferring women. In exactly the same way it was impossible to imagine him in difficult situation caused by the sudden appearance of Gopniks. They don't noticed each other even when shaking hands. It's hard to think of a better form communication with death. External invisibility is the highest form of love for the Motherland. Perfect homogeneity with the environment. The identity of the executioner and the victim allows the victim to escape from under the ax of the Motherland. This identity returns the ability to take direct action (the ability to set fire to a neighbor’s door, the ability piss in his face, the ability to give it to his wife's mouth). there is visibility impunity, freedom from consequences. Invisibility is super-Power. A strange association with Wells's "The Invisible Man". Another Wells invention is the Marlocks. Vampiric underground proletariat, on which is worth everything. Back in the 80s, one could observe a drunken proletarian staggering somewhere on the back platform of a trolleybus, winged Soviet Power in the most carefully, and everyone pretended not to hear. All sorts of people especially pretended clean and Jewish. Not a single lousy dissident would take such a risk, and rightly so - he would have been screwed in one fell swoop. Only a representative of the Lawful People's Republic could speak like that. Authorities. They Gopniks are not the opposition. Even if they are sometimes beaten by the cops. Each otherthey also hit, after all. Almost all politically active “ultra” theoreticians (Bolsheviks on the left and Nazis on the right), accepted the natural gopnik spontaneous violence and aggressiveness for opposition to the liberal with his square rationalism. The mistake is yours. Gopnik doesn't give a damn about a liberal. But liberals don’t like Gopnik fig. Over the past three centuries, the liberal has established the metaphysical law as earthly law. Gopnik power. Without a gopnik, a liberal does not exist, he relies on the grassroots, the elemental power of the Marlock vampires. "...In the end, the leader was still devastated by the force of gravity without repentant monkeys, torn to pieces by their relapse survivors voters, or he himself turned into a monkey right on the TV screen.” ("ova Express" W. Burroughs). If I say that I opened the book by accident, who will tell me will he believe it? Any modern political movement needs Gopnik, because absolutely they all operate in quantitative categories of “electorate” and “majority”. They need Gopnik like they need air. No - like meat. Political power is instinctive seeks support from real power - the brutal power of the Earth and gravity. She needs Gopnik as a gravitational quantum. It may seem like he's bothering her, but minor accidents that gopniks cause from time to time, releasing excess energy are compensated by the deep inertia of the mass.Gopniks are anarchic in appearance, but anarchy is alien to Gopniks, since only a committed individualist can be a good anarchist. Individuality Gopnik is a game that could only be born in the brain fog of a humanist who I read about living people in books. Gopnik, who realized his uniqueness, automatically drops out of the Gopnik ranks. He either goes to university or organizes a gang, or both, but one way or another he ceases to be quantum, ceases to belong to the world of large numbers and easy relationships. Looks like that such nugget stars were not quanta from birth. "Kill me Mickey!" Not to be confused with the executioner of the Natural Born Killer. Urla strives for self-organization. From small gangs of teenagers running the their microdistrict, to the people's mafias and underground militias. Simple, honest guys who want everything to be in order at home. The light rests on such people. From They are made into people in the Airborne Forces. This guy is not pissed off to jump with a parachute, and he won’t then write different texts about how he didn’t piss. Everything is fine with him areas of environmental relations and cause-and-effect relationships. Normal. Like, it will be as it should be. As it should be, that is. Take off your hat. Sami. -+------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Gop culture (application) Another opinion of an intellectual regarding gop culture: Urla createsauthentic folk culture, since it is the people, and the people, as we know, loves the song. An example is always at hand - urban romance, criminal ("Odessa") song, "watch, calm the child down", "maladov was tried v-o-o-ora"... This is for those who are older. A separate topic. Those who are younger will say that rock and roll is everything to us, that’s why they will remember “Primus”, “Alpha”, “Dynamic”... Yuri Antonov - a must! "Tender May" again. What's in the gopota is currently listening and singing, I, frankly speaking, don’t know, but I suspect that they love Masha Rasputina and the group "Dune", probably "Lube" (for some reason I managed not to remember about the Lubers - apparently to me, a non-Muscovite, they are not close). There are also different metalheads, but they are difficult to sing. All this is music for proles, but not by proles. Of interest are non-commercial counterfeits that are found thanks to a successful image (see. Khari Rastorguev and Rasputina) resonance among the gopota. The interesting thing is that the bully itself generates. What about gop culture? They used to sing something like this: Girls swam in the lake #oops rubber found They played all day long Didn't even go to school There were many such things. A ditty, if anyone doesn't understand. It's probably still possible remember. I don’t know any other examples of the gopot’s creativity, however, this one really not bad. Proletarian (“garage”) rock and roll does not roll among Gopniks, regardless of the class origin of its creators. Maybe early"Primus", with its "girl at the bar today" is an exception here. Stop. I also remembered: Like under the Kharkov bridge The disabled man was swimming. #we raked in water, #pushed with balls. Chorus: Oops, oops. ______________ #izda and #opa have grown together Chorus:__ Don't go away, it can't be, __________ There must be a gap! So. A little more and I will refute my own initial thesis about creative the failure of the gopniks, but I have little data, unfortunately. Besides The above song is very ancient. But the group "Spider" (I think?) sang in Kosher Kharkov College of Meat and Dairy Industry the following (according to memory): We beat up the boy for no reason And if there was a reason for it, they would kill him completely In short, the day turned out okay The details have already been forgotten. But this is not the same at all. Gopnik will not sing along with this and will do the right thing, since here there is still a clumsy fake of the same Vladimir Semenych (however, in terms of meaning, everything is impeccable - that’s how it is happens). The above excerpt is the only attempt I know of to create hop rock. Except, again, "Primus", which had no ideological successors (including Loza himself). Of course, Gopniks love rock concerts (as well as football), but you can’t make a big deal out of it the conclusion is that they are somehow involved in rock culture. Gopnik doesn't even reflected in this very rock culture. If he appears there, it is only inthe image of an “enemy” (Mike, Shevchuk). Even modern punks are okay no purely gopnic behavior was recorded. It's strange to me. It’s strange, because the gopnik is a natural beast. Neighborhoods large and small The cities of a great country are not his enclosure - they are his jungle. A world filled cruelty and violence, not artistic and theatrical, but real and everyday. The world is sometimes cozy and stupid, and more often it’s terrifying. irrational. And yet deprived of some dashing dagger freedom, which sounded in ancient folklore about a curly forelock. Is it being born now? folklore somewhere? Even demobilization albums are made as carbon copies. the star of Russian pop music Dasha Saltykova sings! Sasha Sherman 08/10/98 -+------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Appendix-2 (Gop culture) No. I'm driving. Don't betray your homeland. You go to the store and buy a cassette. For example, "Zone-3 (Deceiver)". wrong look for the names of performers on it. Completely anonymous. Yard songs to rhythm box. "Liar, now you're hanging out with someone else..." Of course this all smells like a remake. The time of the remake extracts our diamonds from the mud tears (mom). What yesterday could only be heard live, today you can buy (, mom). And drag, drag, drag. What is a thunderstorm in the steppe for a couple in love? The sky split into pieces The girl ran, but the guy Caught up with laughing happinessShe ran away, oh, how she ran away And I loved, horror, how I loved But lightning caught up with the girl But the girl was killed by lightning Guy, stop! because you are going to suffer The wind is aimed at your chest Guy, stop! and the guy took it in his arms Your dead beloved So they take fire with their bare hands The guy carried his beloved like a stalk And then suddenly he threw his head back He burst into laughter over the steppe... - === Cut === Good luck! Phil. E-mail: fil@travel.ru ICQ: 14322323 /Team "ULTRA hitchhiking"/ Http://ultra.travel.ru E-mail: team@ultra.travel.ru + Origin: War is showbiz (2:461/33.57) ================================================================================ Hello All! Sincere via, Alexej aka Marillion.