About the dedicated line...

================================================================================ * Forwarded by Dmitry Grigoryev (500:95/100.1) * Area : RU.INTERNET.PROVIDER (RU.INTERNET.PROVIDER) * From : Alex Titenstein, 2:5020/400 (Sun 13 August 2000 13:24) * To: Sergey A. Kyranov * Subj : Re: About dedicated... ================================================================================ From: Alex Titenstein On 10 Aug 2000 09:29:57 +0400, "Sergey A. Kyranov" wrote: >"Oleg Konstantinov" reported / reported to >news: news:8msoes$2ems$1@ddt.demos.su... >> >> >> For some reason I thought that PTT was a subsidiary of MGTS >> (if it’s wrong, I apologize), >> the short one could afford to work at a loss >> for several years, but have many clients >> - this is how any big business begins... Client >> theoretically should not pay the entire cost >> equipment that is located outside his home etc > >Wrong opinion. Neither MGTS nor PTT are charitable >organizations.>Everyone is shouting - MGTS you have old telephone exchanges, replace them with new ones. But >no one says how for 50 rubles unlimited (phone subscription fee) >collect several billion dollars for an upgrade. You need to steal a little less. :) I apologize to the author for the anonymous publication of his clever thoughts, but I think so it would be more correct. "Guys, I personally tested this technology (xDSL) on MGTS. The result is complete sucks. Since ancient times, subscriber cables have had Pupinin coils for cutting. spectrum And xDSL has practically drowned out its popularity on the MGTS highway. Moreover There is no problem in discrediting any business at MGTS. Although the positive thing is that this is a commercial department, there are very cool guys there are working. Don't expect low prices!!!" - May 1999 “I don’t understand, no one is interested anymore topic "Timely accounting of the cost of calls on MGTS"? Where is the trade? Why not I was able to clarify this muddy situation with some past speeches question? I learned about this myself from the media!!! I think it's a provocation. But against whom? Option I: - Good Measure will cancel everything, after the elections, vote for ....... Varian II: - Mer is so weak that he is still alive, and his enemies are already making laws against the people. Varian III: - does not exist, because MGTS cannot enter "Pov.Uch.St." by objective reasons sooner than a year or two (very authoritativeI declare, spreading my fingers slightly). So each reader of the conference will draw his own conclusions. But getting "Busy" and 9.6 KB, think about the fact that over the past 6 years, under the guise of reconstruction Moscow officials pumped huge amounts of money into MGTS and imposed stupid multi-million dollar technical solutions. One of them is the “televoting” project - 260xx" Ay! Where's the poll :-) No, what's wrong? Crashed, it doesn't work. In 1998 a ring of 10 Ericsson PBXs should be ready. The contract price is only EATS 74.000.000. $ The contract is more dead than alive. The contract is imposed the Moscow government and money (IMHO) from there. Shopping is currently underway absolutely unnecessary "equipment for monitoring the quality of modem communication" y Ericsson. Equipment for a digital network that does not exist! Cost about 2-3 $ million I could write a lot of things, but you will get tired of reading and won’t believe it. "Believe just business!" December 1999 "After reading all the messages on the topic "Cost Accounting", I decided to expand the topic to I see its special importance. So - turn on the money counter. But I won’t count them, towards the end messages for those who are not lazy, think about it ;-) Work on equipping MGTS automatic telephone exchange "APUS" devices (automatic time-based cost accounting) are carried out with ancient times, many conference participants then walked under the table :-) 1994 ,once again, a decision is made to dismantle the installedAPUS on all PBX systems ATSSH, ATSKU, ATSK, DX-200R3 and some others (total more than 500 pieces). Reason: the system can only collect "tiket" and cannot keep a detailed record of conversations (full information about the call). Although the whole world This is exactly how he lives, but “What about the grandmothers?” doesn’t suit us. But true The reason is not grandmothers, but officials and special services. Very cool: we didn’t do anything ourselves we do, and we get complete control over the population. In summary: It concludes contract with the company "Strom-Telecom" Czech Republic for the installation of new equipment. The cost of the contract is $7 for one subscriber line. More precisely, in the Czech Republic A company is created to fulfill this order (!). Pretty fast Old equipment is being dismantled and new devices are being installed. For everyone TU creates APUS departments. With its help, some enterprises have been transferred to on time. Everything is almost ready for residential subscribers, just not enough a single settlement center for working with clients. Also the disadvantage is not very reliable data collection system from APUS PBX via dial-up channel. And there is quite a lot of data. About 2 to 10 MB per day per 10,000 subscribers. BUT at this moment Yu.M.Lyzhkov is slowing everything down, again pity for “grandmothers” and (!) “internet users” - “not a popular solution”, Actually It’s just something no one needs: “How are we going to steal then!?” Everything hangs in in an uncertain state, the computers on each PBX are becoming obsolete, andthey simply break under the pressure of "Tetris". In 1998 a new wave is rising in Media, City Hall and MGTS. It seems like an agreement has been reached, the computers are changed to new ones (count the money!) and... Bang. Stop again. By this time everything is already new PBXs are purchased with computers (or other devices) for withdrawal huge amounts of data. In the fall of 1999 work resumes again, upgrade PC and software replacement. A decision is made to build a “corporate network of MGTS”, only by this time the adopted "daughter" of MGTS "PPT-teleport" finally passed away (sorry for the pun) and the work is being carried out by Cisco with "Golden-Line" (why this is so would take a very long time to explain). $500,000 is allocated for construction of the MGTS corporate network. Now it is at the construction stage, work on creating a single computing center and There are no client departments. Bottom line: rejoice "dialup", or rather cry - MGTS in death throes. What kind of “accounting” - “tortures”, don’t you see - “We Let's eat!" budget money. Only the money turned out to be poison. So he dies. Let's sum it up: exactly 1.5 - 2 years you can talk on the phone and not deny yourself pleasure. Only here are the additional services in full volume (oh, these bourgeois things) and 128 kb/s, don’t even dream about it." - December 1999 “Oh, Luzhkov, Luzhkov, I remember your mother... Is it really a matter of 50 rubles or 30 rubles. In one country, in one city, one company charges 30 rubles perminute of conversation, another per month without time limit. MGTS is dying - in In principle, it, as a technological enterprise, is finishing its existence. The results of the work of the Lyzhkov company "AFK Sistema" - a complete failure MGTS reconstruction projects. The other day the general director slammed his fist on the table with the demand to “finish the reconstruction”, but what to finish? Dull work managers (for them this word is not suitable - better than stale, stagnant leaders of the old formation) led everything into complete chaos. And Luzhkov hangs noodles" in the ears of Muscovites about "MGTS income". Muscovites, of course, are happy. Only, Guys, there may be enough resources for 4 years of his rule. After picking up telephone receiver, you will hear silence. MGTS plans NEVER included work on building a modern communication network. All general projects reconstructions were done by functionaries, not professionals, and were done under "daughters". I speak very respectfully of many of the employees of the “daughters”, but they services are not for ordinary citizens - this is not competition. "Daughters" - legal way to save MGTS. But it cannot be saved. We need to start with a change in management MGTS completely. It's like a very old car, you need to buy a new one, not spend all the money on spare parts. At the moment, Gen. the prosecutor conducts investigation into the activities of MGTS officials and the Moscow government, maybe it will work out. Bottom line: I am against increasing my subscription. fees against introductiontime-based accounting, BUT not because I love freebies, “it’s a shame for the state.” Vereshchagin, get off the boat! (**Buh**)" - December 1999 " >Not aware of ADSL? When will it happen and how much? And how will they decide? >issues of competition with the same PTT-Teleport? In the course. PTT-Teleport 100% property of MGTS :-) xDSL, according to Mr. Belenkovich (head of xDSL service), - will slowly develop over the course of 2000 Prices ? It’s true: 3 or 4 clients will pay for the content in full department, and no more is needed :-) So all the chips will be transferred commercial company - get in line. > >Or is this just another way to launder a lot of money spent on who knows what? Wow, these people are smart these days! :-) But, to be honest, it’s not funny to me. I'm like then he wrote about an attempt to steal 1,000,000 dollars by performing an imaginary safety work. It took place. Stolen :-(((This is not the last million." - January 2000 " >significantly increased level of costs >(although, if necessary, it’s not difficult to draw the costs). B >otherwise, this is the usual monopoly arbitrariness that they want to push through >under a plausible pretext, and here strict obstruction of the insidious is required >monopolist.Costs!!! - These are monstrously incompetent contracts and decisions of the corrupt officials + just outright theft. A year ago I wrote about how he steals $1,000,000. I was wrong, sorry. It turns out $12,000,000 was stolen (Information from open sources on the Internet - search for "MGTS") I won’t give away too much information, it was called “MGTS equipment is equipped with certain devices protecting from hackers." NO DEVICES WERE INSTALLED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN NATURE. How can a hacker break EATS? He can only break the system management. Don’t plug your PC into the Network, that’s how you protect yourself. On Monday these bitches are in once again they will come to distract me from really important work, for For $250,000 they will check (ATTENTION!) 3 UNIX computers and 1 MS NT for "internal" security! They will tell me that I am a bad admin, because... passwords standard ones, and they’ll come up with some other crap. They will give you recommendations AND EVERYTHING! We should all work like this and get so much :-)!" - February 2000 -- Best regards, Alex Titenstein. -+- ifmail v.2.15dev5 + Origin: LBSFC (2:5020/400) ================================================================================ Hello, All! Best regards, Dmitry (OLDMAN). 2:5020/689.31@FidoNet oldman@i-connect.ru [ZX]