Mountain bike

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From Alexander Bondarenko To All 30 July 2002

*You will live long, All!* Has anyone encountered the subject? The information is interesting, more or less detailed, in In terms of what brands there are and how reliable and convenient they are. /That’s all, All, what follows is only the truth.../

From Vladimir Larkov To Alexander Bondarenko 25 August 2002

Hello, Alexander! Tue 30-Jul-2002 20:22, you (500:3432/3) wrote a letter to All: AB> Has anyone encountered the subject? It is not recommended to collide, it will hurt or cause a fracture. There's iron there still more than rubber. AB> The information is of interest, more or less detailed, AB> in terms of what brands exist and how reliable and convenient they are. There are a lot of brands, but it’s inconvenient to catch fish from the sub. PS: which one do you like? If you don't need to drive from the mountains, you don't need to, he drives around the city slower than a road or road bike. With best wishes, Vladimir.

From Alexander Bondarenko To Vladimir Larkov 29 August 2002

*You will live long, Vladimir!* It was Aug 25, 2002, you gave birth to a whole footcloth for Alexander Bondarenko, about "Mountain Bike". She intrigued me, so I sent her a counter message. AB>> Has anyone encountered the subject? VL> It is not recommended to collide, it will hurt or cause a fracture. There VL> there is still more iron than rubber. AB>> The information is of interest, more or less detailed, AB>> in terms of what brands exist and how reliable and convenient they are. VL> There are a lot of marks, but it’s inconvenient to catch fish from the bottom. VL> PS: which one do you need? Like transport. VL> If you don’t need to go from the mountains, then you don’t need to, it’s around the city VL> drives slower than a road or road bike. In short, here I also recently received information that the subjects are cheaper than 10 thousand after purchase They travel for a month and then fly. So it looks like the number is dead. C Road and road bikes are probably the same garbage. In general, by the way, a very interesting question about the “ideal” transport for fishing. What’s great about it is that it’s good - you can ride it through the forest along a path, and It’s really possible to carry it through an electric train. You can get lost in places where you can There is no access for a car, but it is difficult to cross on foot. Why exactly the mountain one?.. Hy yit looks like rubber, just right for a forest road, and even transmission Yes - you don’t have to climb down the hill. Of the cars, only all-wheel drive is suitable for fishing, especially the Volyn. (like an all-terrain vehicle (there is even an “amphibious” modification)). At worst the usual "Zaporozhets" is suitable (due to the rear engine, it has a load the drive axle is large and the cross-country ability is quite good (anything better than y regular rear-wheel drive), and if it gets stuck, three people can push it out light). But again, you can fish only where there is access. And usually if there is an entrance to the river, then the “coolness” in this place is mediocre... Damn, you can climb anywhere on foot. But carry all the equipment on yourself you have to, you get tired, in short... /That’s all, Vladimir, what follows is only the truth.../

From Eugene Palenock To Alexander Bondarenko 30 August 2002

Hello Alexander! 29 Aug 02 17:20, Alexander Bondarenko -> Vladimir Larkov: AB> In general, by the way, a very interesting question about the “ideal” AB> transport for fishing. Helicopter? ;) AB> Of the cars, only all-wheel drive is suitable for fishing, especially - AB> "Volyn" (like an all-terrain vehicle What is it? Plant/index ? AB> At worst, an ordinary "Cossack" will do (thanks to the rear Why did you forget about the VAZ 2121? Best regards, Evgeniy.

From Vladimir Larkov To Alexander Bondarenko 1 September 2002

Hello, Alexander! Thu 29-Aug-2002 17:20, you (500:3432/3) wrote a letter to me: VL>> If you don’t need to drive from the mountains, then you don’t need to, it’s around the city VL>> drives slower than a road or road bike. AB> In short, here I also recently received information that subjects are cheaper than 10 thousand after AB> shopping takes a month, and then it flies. So it looks like the number is dead. AB> With road bikes and road bikes it’s probably the same garbage. This is bullshit with any thing. It's about how much of a fan you are and how much you this is necessary. If twice a year and not far away, then you can buy it for three hundred bucks. But most likely it will be a weight-heavy piece of iron that rolls like hell. Pan Sportsman (my friend) is an ardent fan, he rides from the mountains. It has one frame Costs $1500 (storck, dual suspension (i.e. there is also a morter in the back)), front fork $500, disc brakes are cheap - three hundred bucks, and the rest is small stuff; and only because there is little money, otherwise he would have bought a carbon fiber one for eight thousand. AB> In general, by the way, a very interesting question about the “ideal” AB> transport for fishing. It's great and good - you can walk in the woods on it AB> it’s a path to go, and it’s really possible to get it through on an electric train. You can get lost AB> to places where there is no access by car, and where you can break on foot. AB> Why mountain?.. AB> Hy y it seems like rubber, just right for a forest road, and even AB> and there are transfers - you don’t have to climb down the hill. There are different types of rubber (both in thickness and type - in winter, for example, you need studded, otherwise it blows off on ice. In the summer, semi-slick tires roll faster, but in the rain it is slower. wears it). Maybe it’s easier for you to buy an inexpensive motorcycle, Minsk or Voskhod? Minsk even It’s better - it starts in half a click and weighs less. Or a bourgeois moped, the rights to it not needed, just a normal moped, and not this small-wheeled beast, which It crawls around the city, it’s a breeze to drive through the forest. Eats little gasoline, pedals no need to twist. And by the time you get there on the bike, you’ll already be tired, especially if It's far away and the road is crappy. With best wishes, Vladimir.

From Alexander Bondarenko To Eugene Palenock 3 September 2002

*You will live long, Eugene!* It was Aug 30, 2002, you gave birth to a whole footcloth for Alexander Bondarenko, about "Mountain Bike". She intrigued me, so I sent her a counter message. AB>> Of the cars, only all-wheel drive is suitable for fishing, in AB>> features - "Volyn" (like an all-terrain vehicle EP> What is it? Plant/index ? LyAZ-968M, LyAZ-1302. In short, this is an SUV from the Lutsk Automobile Plant. The first is based on “constipation”, the second is based on “Tavria”. In common parlance - "Volyn". The whole point is that it has no analogues in terms of cross-country ability. He drives through the swamp, maybe swim across bodies of water. AB>> At worst, an ordinary "Cossack" will do (thanks to the rear EP> Why did you forget about the VAZ 2121? A new one is expensive, but it’s better not to take an old one. /That’s all, Eugene, what follows is only the truth.../

From Alexander Bondarenko To Vladimir Larkov 3 September 2002

*You will live long, Vladimir!* It was 01 Sep 2002, you gave birth to a whole footcloth for Alexander Bondarenko, about "Mountain Bike". She intrigued me, so I sent her a counter message. VL> Maybe it’s easier for you to buy an inexpensive motorcycle, Minsk or Voskhod? Minsk IMHO VL> even better - it starts at half a shot and weighs less. No, the moto doesn't fit (see tireline ;) ). VL> Or a bourgeois moped, you don’t need a license for it, just a normal one VL> moped, VL> and not this VL> small-wheeled beast that crawls around the city, on this one through the forest VL> the ride is crazy. It consumes little gasoline and you don’t need to turn the pedals. And on a bike VL> by the time you get there you’ll be exhausted, especially if it’s far away and the road is bad. Why, are there bourgeois mopeds with big wheels? I've never seen it... So cool of course. What is their price? /That’s all, Vladimir, what follows is only the truth.../

From Eugene Palenock To Alexander Bondarenko 4 September 2002

Hello Alexander! 03 Sep 02 10:15, Alexander Bondarenko -> Eugene Palenock: AB> LyAZ-968M, LyAZ-1302. This is, in short, an SUV from the Lutsk Automobile Company AB> plant. The first is based on “constipation”, the second is based on “Tavria”. B AB> common people - "Volyn". The whole point is that in terms of cross-country ability AB> there are no analogues. It travels through swamps and can even swim across bodies of water. Are there any characteristics? Maximum speed, consumption, clearance, weight, price... Or URL... Best regards, Evgeniy.

From Alexander Bondarenko To Eugene Palenock 5 September 2002

*You will live long, Eugene!* It was 04 Sep 2002, you gave birth to a whole footcloth for Alexander Bondarenko, about "Mountain Bike". She intrigued me, so I sent her a counter message. AB>> LyAZ-968M, LyAZ-1302. This is, in short, Lytsky's SUV AB>> automobile plant. The first is based on "constipation", the second is based on AB>> "Tavria". In common parlance - "Volyn". The whole point is that AB>> its cross-country ability has no analogues. He drives through swamps, maybe also bodies of water AB>> swim across. EP> Are there any characteristics? Maximum speed, consumption, clearance, weight, price... Or EP> URL... http://www.ujuja.narod.ru/index.html Half a year ago I seemed to be working. There you will get answers to all your questions. But this is still bullshit. Because that's how "Volyn" makes a swamp, you just have to see it. Then it’s really almost an orgasm to the fullest. ;) /That’s all, Eugene, what follows is only the truth.../

From Valerij Kozhevnikoff To Alexander Bondarenko 9 September 2002

Hello, Alexander! 05 Sep 02 20:11, Alexander Bondarenko -> Eugene Palenock: AB>>> LyAZ-968M, LyAZ-1302. This is, in short, Lytsky's SUV AB>>> automobile plant. The first is based on "constipation", the second is based on AB>>> "Tavria". In common parlance - "Volyn". The whole point is that AB>>> its cross-country ability has no analogues. He drives through swamps, maybe also bodies of water AB>>> swim across. EP>> Are there any characteristics? Maximum speed, consumption, clearance, weight, price... Or EP>> URL... AB> http://www.ujuja.narod.ru/index.html AB> Half a year ago I seemed to be working. AB> There you will get answers to all your questions. But this is still bullshit. Because the way AB> "Volyn" is making a swamp, you just have to see it. Then it’s really a little AB> isn't it a complete orgasm? ;) Hmm. Really? I drove a VAZ-2121 all over the Tyumen region, climbed anywhere, and through snowdrifts and swamps. What's better than Volyn? WBR, Jason. /*e-mail: jason2000(scary dog)yandex.ru ICQ: 62235830*/ /np:/ *silence*

From Eugene Palenock To Valerij Kozhevnikoff 9 September 2002

Hello Valerij! 09 Sep 02 03:44, Valerij Kozhevnikoff -> Alexander Bondarenko: AB>>>> LyAZ-968M, LyAZ-1302. VK> Hmm. Really? I drove a VAZ-2121 all over the Tyumen region, climbed everywhere Niva requires the driver to have brains and attentiveness. You can drown on it, turn over, break bridges (if they are standard - on Amateur off-road rallies on Niva often break them). However, if there is $ I will buy exactly 21214 (or all-wheel drive 21093-34, if not much more expensive). By the way, how was your fuel consumption? What engine? 16" wheels? Was there a tachometer? Is the popular belief true that: - if you don’t turn it above 3000, then 9 liters fits in the city - on the highway 90kmh in 5th gear - 8 liters, 135kmh - 14 - the theoretical minimum (how much?) consumption is 50 km/h in 5th gear VK> it was horrible, both in the snowdrifts and in the swamps. Why is Volyn better? Cross-country ability is better than UAZ (due to weight and low center of gravity)... But in the city it takes you can't go with her. Maximum 80km/h. And there are big problems with the design. Best regards, Evgeniy.

From Eugene Palenock To Valerij Kozhevnikoff 9 September 2002

Hello Valerij! 09 Sep 02 03:44, Valerij Kozhevnikoff -> Alexander Bondarenko: AB>>>> LyAZ-968M, LyAZ-1302. VK> Hmm. Really? I drove a VAZ-2121 all over the Tyumen region, climbed everywhere Niva requires the driver to have brains and attentiveness. You can drown on it, turn over, break bridges (if they are standard - on Amateur off-road rallies on Niva often break them). However, if there is $ I will buy exactly 21214 (or all-wheel drive 21093-34, if not much more expensive). By the way, how was your fuel consumption? What engine? 16" wheels? Was there a tachometer? Is the popular belief true that: - if you don’t turn it above 3000, then 9 liters fits in the city - on the highway 90kmh in 5th gear - 8 liters, 135kmh - 14 - the theoretical minimum (how much?) consumption is 50 km/h in 5th gear VK> it was horrible, both in the snowdrifts and in the swamps. Why is Volyn better? Cross-country ability is better than UAZ (due to weight and low center of gravity)... But in the city it takes you can't go with her. Maximum 80km/h. And there are big problems with the design. Best regards, Evgeniy.

From Alexandr Kushnikov To Alexander Bondarenko 9 September 2002

Greetings, Alexander Wed 4 Sep 2002 at 01:01:02 Eugene Palenock -> Alexander Bondarenko on the topic Mountain bike AB>> LyAZ-968M, LyAZ-1302. This is, in short, Lytsky's SUV AB>> automobile AB>> plant. The first is based on "constipation", the second is based on AB>> "Tavria". B AB>> common people - "Volyn". The whole point is that AB>> patency AB>> there are no analogues. He drives through swamps, maybe also bodies of water AB>> swim across. EP> Are there any characteristics? Maximum speed, consumption, clearance, weight, EP> price... Or URL... Haven't they been discontinued? In Russian advertising newspapers I am not at all I see advertisements for the sale of these cars. As for those characteristics - definitely not I’ll say, but I once drove such a car. There is no comfort in it, but this is not required. The cross-country ability is quite high, although the wheels are small. Inside the cabin has a completely flat floor to which four seats are screwed (as in bus), the trunk is quite spacious. And if you remove the rear seats, then the car turns into a truck, albeit small in size. The one I rode had a removable canvas top.I think the URL is not difficult to find through a search engine. By the way it would be interesting find out if these cars are for sale now. Best regards, Alexander Kushnikov aka Sander.

From Valerij Kozhevnikoff To Eugene Palenock 10 September 2002

Hello Eugene! 09 Sep 02 15:30, Eugene Palenock -> Valerij Kozhevnikoff: AB>>>>> LyAZ-968M, LyAZ-1302. VK>> Hmm. Really? I drove a VAZ-2121 all over the Tyumen region, climbed everywhere EP> Niva requires the driver to have brains and attentiveness. Uh-huh. It's a capricious machine, but if you use it correctly, it doesn't get any better. EP> You can drown on it, turn over, break bridges (if they are standard - on EP> amateur off-road rallies on Niva often break them). ;) I remembered how I took bees to the apiary. Night, dark, dried peat a swamp plowed for forest planting, mosquitoes in a veil so that the headlights do not penetrate, in the back there is a trailer with 6 hives (this is about 500 kg in weight), a gun at hand, steering wheel in your hands. You had to fly over the peat bogs with a running start, otherwise you’d get stuck and to hell you'll get out. And the nearest village is 100 km away. off-road, and the tractor driver is there forever drunk. The off-road there is so... well, almost a road. The K-700 tractor will still pass there, but on something else you have to drive one side of the car along the side of the road, the other between ruts, otherwise you will sit on your belly. And nothing broke. EP> However, if I have $, I’ll buy 21214 (or all-wheel drive 21093-34, EP> if not much more expensive). Is there such a thing? What does it look like?EP> By the way, how was your fuel consumption? I mostly drove on gas. A 100 liter cylinder was installed. propane from Volga, and the carburetor is from her. In those days, a liter of liquefied gas cost 13 kopecks, and a liter AI-93 - 40 kopecks. And then gas prices went up, and queues began at gas stations... Switched to gasoline. She ate a lot for me, about 12-13 liters, even more in winter. This is probably due to the fact that he often climbed through swamps. EP> What engine? 16" wheels? Regular 2106, 1600 cc, 80 hp. Wheels 16". I installed studded tires for the winter from Volga. I know it’s perverted, I just didn’t have anything else at hand. EP> Was there a tachometer? Of course. EP> Is the popular belief true that: EP> - if you don’t turn it above 3000, then 9 liters fits in the city Figurines. 10 is the minimum if on the highway. The front axle takes a lot. Although... U My driving style is like this - I feel sorry for the engine, turn it up to 3600, only then I shift to make it easier for him in the next gear. You tachograms Have you seen VAZ engines? They have maximum torque at 3600 rpm, and maximum power at 5600 rpm. I always try to keep the engine running level 2500-3000 rpm, when overtaking I switch to a lower gear and gas infloor... The car shoots. I once read books on rally driving... EP> - on the highway 90 km/h in 5th gear - 8 liters, 135 km/h - 14 EP> - the theoretical minimum (how much?) consumption is 50 km/h in 5th gear Perverted. Why torture the engine like this? Have you ever driven a truck? And on on buses? VK>> hit, both through snowdrifts and swamps. Why is Volyn better? EP> Cross-country ability is better than UAZ (due to weight and low center of gravity)... Uh-huh. I remember how I climbed onto the bridge on ice. The UAZs were resting. EP> But you can’t go to the city with it. Maximum 80km/h. And the design is big EP> problems. Uh-huh. I saw her... WBR, Jason. /*e-mail: jason2000(scary dog)yandex.ru ICQ: 62235830*/ /np:/ *silence*

From Alexandr Kushnikov To Eugene Palenock 11 September 2002

Greetings, Eugene Mon 9 Sep 2002 at 15:30:30 Eugene Palenock -> Valerij Kozhevnikoff on the topic Mountain bike AB>>>>> LyAZ-968M, LyAZ-1302. VK>> Hmm. Really? I drove a VAZ-2121 all over the Tyumen region, VK>> climbed where EP> Niva requires the driver to have brains and attentiveness. EP> You can drown on it, turn over, break bridges (if EP> they are standard - at amateur off-road rallies on Niva EP> they are broken often). However, if I have $, I am 21214 EP> I'll buy (or all-wheel drive 21093-34, if not much more expensive). However, I think differently. Niva (if it is a new car) is more reliable than Volyn. Although because Niva is a Zhiguli, and Volyn is a Zaporozhets. I don't relate to To the Zaporozhets with disdain, if only because I had a Zaporozhets ZAZ 968M personally - my first car. Any brain and attentiveness is required car, even a foreign car. And besides, they all love care and attention. Let's get closer to the topic. Does Volyn drive well through swamps? Yes. With something, I I agree because Volyn weighs about 600 kg, and Niva about 1100 kg, and Opel Frontera - under 2 tons. Which is the most reliable of all the above cars? They all different class. Both in money and in characteristics.As for rare (non-conveyor) VAZ cars. VAZ 21214 - if I'm not mistaken - this is a Niva pickup, that is, there are the same two doors in the back small truck body. And of course an extended base. Yes, for echoing purposes if you have money, the car is just right. This is the first time I’ve heard about the VAZ 21093-34 model, but if I understand correctly, this is a variation on the theme of the VAZ 21083, better known under the “Tarzan” brand. Regular 08 (09) based on Niva and of course with all-wheel drive. In short, I could talk a lot about this topic, because all-wheel drive cars and related fishing and tourism are very relevant to me. But no will this be offtopic? If not, then you can continue this topic. EP> By the way, how was your fuel consumption? A little more than Zaporozhets or Tavria, respectively. EP> What engine? The same as that of Zaporozhets or Tavria, respectively. EP> 16" wheels ? Fewer Zhiguli ones. Or the same. That is 13 or 12". EP> Was there a tachometer? Is the popular belief true that: EP> - if you don’t turn it above 3000, then it fits into 9 liters EP> by city EP> - on the highway 90 km/h in 5th gear - 8 liters, 135 km/h - 14 EP> - the theoretical minimum (how much?) consumption is 50 km/hEP> in 5th gear What tachometer? What's fifth gear? Have you driven Zaporozhets? VK>> hit, both through snowdrifts and swamps. Why is Volyn better? EP> Cross-country ability is better than UAZ (due to weight and low center EP> gravity)... But you can’t go to the city on it. Maximal speed 80 km/h. EP> And there are big problems with the design. Yes, that's true. :-((( But as a fishing machine it’s ideal. Best regards, Alexander Kushnikov aka Sander.

From Alexander Bondarenko To Valerij Kozhevnikoff 12 September 2002

*You will live long, Valerij!* It was 09 Sep 2002, you gave birth to a whole footcloth for Alexander Bondarenko, about "Mountain Bike". She intrigued me, so I sent her a counter message. AB>> There you will get answers to all your questions. But this is still bullshit. Because AB>> how “Volyn” makes a swamp, you just have to see. That's when AB>> really almost a complete orgasm. ;) VK> Hmm. Really? I drove a VAZ-2121 all over the Tyumen region, climbed everywhere VK> it was horrible, both through snowdrifts and swamps. Who says that the Niva is a crappy car? It’s also an SUV, and even "with comfort." I wouldn't give it up. Just not in that kind of pocket half-worker-half-student like me... :) And about the swamp... Well, when I spoke about “Volyn”, I meant this system, when there is a layer of turf on top, and a layer of dirt one meter below. "Niva" on such a trynde will sit stably (it’s a bit heavy, and the landing is also rather low (bridges they will resist). But “Volyn”... Knowledgeable people say that it’s easy. In short, I know this case: a road (winter road) through a very swampy area. Kissel with a layer of 50 centimeters. Peat. A GAZ-66 is driving, at the lowest setting and dragging barely. It seems like it's about to get stuck. And then the gaze of amazed passengersa picture appears: on the side of this “jelly highway” in the thickets of grass "parked" "Volyn". That is, not only are there 6 kilometers along this road passed, and it was also possible to turn around. Well, there was another case (I saw it myself) - a UAZ (jeep) in another swamp all the way to the bottom got stuck, and “Volyn” had previously flown across this area quickly and without problems... ;) VK> Why is Volyn better? More passable than Niva. Much more passable. The Niva has considerable weight, and the bridges are under their belly sticks out. And “Volyn” has a gearbox for each wheel (no bridges!), and the bottom almost flat (only the crankcase protection protrudes somewhat, but this is garbage, and in general, some craftsmen grow it to the very back, then in general the ski is The car floats through the quagmire like clockwork). Weight is much less. By the way, there is such a (not very rare, by the way) modification of LyAZ, where at the back - propeller, and it seems like even the doors below have thick padding... I think you I understood why. ;) /That’s all, Valerij, what follows is only the truth.../

From Alexander Bondarenko To Eugene Palenock 12 September 2002

*You will live long, Eugene!* It was 09 Sep 2002, you gave birth to a whole footcloth for Valerij Kozhevnikoff, about "Mountain Bike". She intrigued me, so I sent her a counter message. VK>> Hmm. Really? I drove a VAZ-2121 all over the Tyumen region and climbed VK>> where EP> Niva requires the driver to have brains and attentiveness. EP> You can drown on it, turn over, break bridges (if they are standard EP> - EP> they are often broken at amateur off-road rallies on Niva). However, EP> if I have $, I’ll buy 21214 (or all-wheel drive 21093-34, And what about “all-wheel drive 21093-34”? Nine??? :( ) [kots] VK>> hit, both through snowdrifts and swamps. Why is Volyn better? EP> Cross-country ability is better than UAZ (due to weight and low center of gravity)... Come on, the UAZ is more passable than the Niva. There is only a gain due to landing. Although... Somewhere due to its lightness, the Niva may win... It is necessary to check, in short. :) EP> But in EP> you can't go through the city on it. Maximal speed 80 km/h. Where else can you go? ;) For more than that, the traffic cops will break your jaws. ;))))) EP> And there are big problems with the design.But everything is better than the same UAZ with Volyn. :) /That’s all, Eugene, what follows is only the truth.../

From Alexander Bondarenko To Alexandr Kushnikov 12 September 2002

*You will live long, Alexandr!* It was 09 Sep 2002, you gave birth to a whole footcloth for Alexander Bondarenko, about "Mountain Bike". She intrigued me, so I sent her a counter message. AB>>> there are no analogues. He drives through swamps, maybe also bodies of water AB>>> swim across. EP>> Are there any characteristics? Maximum speed, consumption, clearance, weight, EP>> price... Or URL... AK> Are they discontinued? They say the plant produces 600 pieces a year... :) AK> In Russian advertising newspapers I AK> I don’t see any advertisements for the sale of these cars. And they are rarely sold. But it happens. AK> As for those AK> characteristics - I can’t say for sure, but I once drove such a car. AK> There is no comfort in it, but this is not required. Patency AK> quite high, although the wheels are small. They put regular wheels on it (like bugs, etc.). Even a larger radius is possible. Well, the most important thing here is the shape of the tread (if it is “tractor”, then don't care at all). AK> Inside the cabin there is a completely flat floor to which four are screwed AK> chairs (like on a bus), AK> the trunk is quite spacious. And if you remove the rear seats, then the car AK> turns into a truck, although it is small in size. The one on which AK> I went and had a removable canvas top. I think the URL is not difficult to find AK> via a search engine. By the way, it would be interesting to know if they are for sale AK> these cars now. The Lutsk plant produces and sells "Volyn" in small batches, no longer made on Tavrievsky ones (and especially not on Zaporovsky ones), but on six-wheel units. Worth it such a bad guy 2500$... $) /That’s all, Alexandr, what follows is only the truth.../

From Eugene Palenock To Alexander Bondarenko 14 September 2002

Hello Alexander! 12 Sep 02 19:03, Alexander Bondarenko -> Eugene Palenock: EP>> often). However, if I have $, I will buy exactly 21214 (or EP>> all-wheel drive 21093-34, AB> What about “all-wheel drive 21093-34”? Nine??? :( ) Yes. EP>> Maximilka 80 km/h. AB> Where else can you go? ;) AB> For more, the traffic cops will break their jaws. ;))))) Firstly, the acceleration dynamics. So that you are not the last one to leave the traffic light. Secondly, on large highways we have 120 km/h. PS Here 21214 has 140kmh, 2109334 - up to 160kmh... Best regards, Evgeniy.

From Alexandr Kushnikov To Alexander Bondarenko 8 October 2002

Greetings, Alexander Thu 12 Sep 2002 at 18:42:00 Alexander Bondarenko -> Valerij Kozhevnikoff on the topic Mountain bike AB> By the way, there is such a (not very rare, by the way) modification AB> LyAZa, where there is a propeller at the back, and it seems like even at the doors AB> there is thick padding at the bottom.. I think you understand why. ;) Propeller? ;-) Still, probably a screw? Airplane propeller. Best regards, Alexander Kushnikov aka Sander.