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Hello, All
People!
Recommend a game (quest, arcade) with FAST (from 25 fps) pixel-by-pixel scrolling
fields.
Preferably horizontally.
Hello, Soplik
what are there? ;)
Mario demo from Gogin seems to be.
All sorts of Worms (there are some where the scrolling is pixel-by-pixel)
I saw a couple more developments (D'Art/Fenomen did something once, me too, but this
everything is unfinished and the floppy disks are gathering dust)
Hello, Soplik
D'Art also made something like Mario, in color, so everything scrolled.
I did Kill Dj.Psych (only it seems there was vertical scrolling, it was a long time ago,
need to watch)
why isn't it finished? The answer is simple - at first I was wondering how it would be, but it will work out
Is it... the engine was being written, and then oops, interest! and disappeared.
that's all ;)
Hello, Soplik
not really.
There are enough game ideas.
There is no time whatsoever.
And the external motivator... If you mean money, then you still have a salary
There are more of me ^_~ and therefore there is more motivation to work at work.
Hello, Soplik
What did you do and why didn’t you finish it?
(I saw Mario, there are no such Worms)
Hello, Soplik
1. Okay.
What if it's not money? If, for example, fame?
Or a Spectrum girl?
2. So you need to choose one idea, the most interesting one, stick to it and dig in?
Hello, Soplik
Sop> What are the other parameters of those engines?
Sop> Number of sprites, freedom of movement, animation?
On the Spectrum, in order to get everything out of the processor, you need to sharpen the engine for a specific
game, and not decide based on the engines what can be done with them.
It also plays a significant role in what memory the game is used for, under 256 it opens where
more possibilities. And with a turbo, not at all.
Hello, Soplik
Sop> What are the other parameters of those engines?
Sop> Number of sprites, freedom of movement, animation?
Sop> Battle Toads can be made?
In Battle Toads, IMHO, there is no need for scrolling, because there is a zone-based passage.
Hello Sinus
Sin> what are there? ;)
Sin> D'Art/Fenomen did something once, me too, but it's all nothing
Sin> completed and gathering dust on floppy disks
D-Art had several engines ready to scroll the screen into a frame. There was a couple
engines with horizontal scrolling and one with vertical scrolling. These engines, in principle,
workers. Made for The Matrix. The part with vertical scrolling was finished,
I only needed my own graphics (at the time of writing and debugging, they used other people’s
sprites). Later, one of the horizontal scrolls was “painted” and split
for 2 more independent engines (using the so-called “interlaced fields” and without
their use). Even then, someone said that a fully scrolling
You can't make Mario on the Spectrum. D-Art did it, Mario ran into the frame. Next,
Apparently, having proven (most likely to myself) that it can still be done, all these developments are so
and were left collecting dust on the disks. Although the source code was later distributed to several
people, and there seems to be something lying around somewhere on the Internet to this day...
If I made a mistake somewhere, let D-Art correct him, after all, he is the “writer” of the code :)
Hello Zeg
Zeg> Even then, someone said that a fully scrolling Mario on
Zeg> Spectrum cannot do this. D-Art did it, Mario ran into the frame.
How many enemies were there? Were there mushrooms, coins, etc.? B&W? What screen size?
Hello, Soplik
Sop> People!
Sop> Recommend a game (quest, arcade) with FAST (from 25 fps) pixel by pixel
Sop> by scrolling the field.
Sop> Preferably horizontally.
You tell us what needs to be done, the engine will be born on the fly. 25 fps is of course
too cool, with pixel scrolling, but the main thing is to understand the idea. By the way,
scrollable, not the entire screen, but only individual parts, for example "Zynaps"
or "R-Type".
Sop> 1. Okay.
Sop> What if it’s not money? If, for example, fame?
Sop> Or a Spectrumist girl?
Sop>
Sop> 2. That is, you need to choose one idea, the most interesting one, stick to it and
Sop> fuck?
1. We will give money to build a hospital for poor IBMers.
2. Let someone else take the glory. A good guy, Slavik, probably.
3. Spectrum girl, we won’t give her away, we’ll dedicate poems to her. =)
:) Just kidding :)
P.S.: So what should you do?
Hello new art
1) Nothing is needed until April.
For now, I'm collecting ideas.
Chip and Dale? 2D racing? dizzy?
2) That is, frame scrolling is possible EITHER horizontally OR vertically?
Badly. Micromachines can no longer be made.
Hello new art
Oh, and one more question.
If the picture is from an LD-PUSH buffer and the sprites are directly on the screen,
Isn't it possible to save the background? Yes?
Hello new art
I-men-but!
It all depends on the artist!
:confused:
Hello new art
new> How many enemies were there? Were there mushrooms, coins, etc.? B&W? What size
new> screen?
I don’t remember the technical characteristics (i.e. the number of these same mushrooms, coins
etc.), everything was in color, taxied on 2/3 of the screen.
You can, of course, try to find the sources, but most likely D-Art doesn’t care now
will find. I only have “spare parts” for the Matrix.
Sometimes the idea arises of cobbling something together from them, because there are 2 full-fledged engines
done... But again I’m stuck with the lack of graphics and levels :(.
Hello, Soplik
Sop> All this eats is HALF of a frame and TWENTY kilobytes of memory.
If the sprites are already scrolled, then it’s far from 20kb, it’s good if 128 is enough.
If you scroll in real time, then it’s not half a frame or a frame.
Hello, Soplik
Sop> Zeg, look what comes out:
Sop>
Sop> ...
Sop>
Sop> Find artists and make a game. Large and powerful.
You can see more interesting ideas in the FreeMan engine of an unreleased game
Drunkard (I think that’s what it was called). It’s true that understanding the code is terrible!
And so, really, it’s a matter of bullshit ;) - find an artist, write a script and
develop levels... Just a little... :rolleyes:
Hello Zeg
No, of course, this is just for the background.
But the sprites will be a little faster than usual.
Or not?
Hello, Soplik
Sop> People!
Sop> Recommend a game (quest, arcade) with FAST (from 25 fps) pixel by pixel
Sop> by scrolling the field.
Sop> Preferably horizontally.
Vertical view of the NumbCars 2 demo at 25 fps:
http://zx.pk.ru/showthread.php?t=1265. And in the bourgeois LED Storm, where too
auto+vert. scrolling, generally seems to be 50 fps. That's how they knew how to code.
Zeg> You can see more interesting ideas in the FreeMan engine
Zeg> of the released game Drunkard (I think that’s what it was called). The truth is to understand the code
Zeg> - horror!
Quite normal - the function Replace All ":"=>"
"He copes well with this.
:)
A long time ago I converted its source into a normal form for myself to check
SjASMPlus. Works. By eye it's 50 fps. Horizontal scroll. In general, see
Attach. But it looks like Freeman abandoned it because it was sorely missed
beats
File: DrunkardSRC_SjASMPlus.zip
http://zx.pk.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=2652